Peter Moores declines Pakistan approach for position of Head Coach [update post #57]

[Shayan]

Peter Moores has emerged as a candidate to replace Waqar Younis as the Pakistan head coach, according to reports in the country. Intriguingly, the first assignment for the new man will be the tour to England this summer.

Moores was dismissed for the second time as England head coach last May after the early exit from the 2015 World Cup. He is working as a coaching consultant at Nottinghamshire, having agreed a two-year deal at the end of last season.

A number of media outlets in Pakistan yesterday named him alongside Mickey Arthur, the former South Africa and Australia coach, as a possible successor to Younis, who resigned at the start of the month. Dean Jones, the former Australia batsman, and Aaqib Javed, the former Pakistan bowler, have also been linked.

Neither Moores nor his representative responded to requests for comment from The Times but his strong knowledge of English cricket would make him an attractive figure. He dealt with the Pakistan Cricket Board four years ago when he was employed briefly to look at its domestic game.

One potential sticking point may be the security situation in Pakistan. Last month at least 74 people died in a suicide bombing in Lahore and Foreign Office advice mentions “a heightened threat of terrorist attacks and kidnapping against western nationals”. However, Pakistan have adopted UAE as their “home” so travel to the country itself may be minimal.

The ECB wants a multipoints system across the three formats to be in place for both the Sri Lanka and Pakistan series this season and the ICC is due to consider a similar structure for the international game at its meetings in Dubai over the next few days. One aim is to provide greater context to bilateral limited-overs fixtures, which are easily lost when they follow Test matches.

Finding ways to assert cricket as a frontline sport is an increasing priority for most governing bodies. India have taken a step in promoting their Test programme by announcing that a game in the home series against New Zealand later in the year will be a day-night affair using a pink ball.

James Sutherland, the Cricket Australia chief executive, has repeated his belief that a day-night Test in the 2017-18 Ashes is “a distinct possibility”. Although formal discussions are yet to begin, the ECB said that the board was “open-minded” about that prospect. England would require at least one of the warm-up fixtures to be staged in similar conditions. The schedule is due to be released in the autumn.

Proposals to reverse the carve-up of finances and power by the “Big Three” of India, Australia and England are also set to feature in the coming ICC discussions. Shashank Manohar, the chairman, has to decide whether he wants to continue in office amid opposition from some countries to Giles Clarke, the ECB president, as his successor.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/cricket/article4737099.ece

 

[Hawkeye]

ECB: Sacks him for poor ODI/T20 batting and 90s approach.

PCB: Wants to hire him because he has no idea about the modern game.

 

[MenInG]

ECB: Sacks him for poor ODI/T20 batting and 90s approach.

PCB: Wants to hire him because he has no idea about the modern game.

I believe we are hiring people because they are available

 

[Rafay Shafiq]

After the tour all players will be awarded degree of Masters in Statistics.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

Could be an interim coach nothing more than that.

 

[MightyObnoxious]

I like Peter Moore's. Seems like a guy who used data and other analytical tools a lot. Also, has worked with PCB previously so knows how toxic the system is. The only downside I see his that his man management skills are apparently very poor. But that could be offset if he keeps Grant Flower with him(which he might considering Flower's contract has been extended till sept) and gets Mushtaq in his team like he did for the England coaching roster.
And I think, even man management might not be that big of a issue as the first term was only K.P who also had issues with Flower and in the second term he was let go. Also, he has worked with Junaid at Lancashire and they had a very good relationship. So. Might not be a very bad choice. Might also bring in couple of data scientist for the England tour which may be very beneficial in the long run, even for Inzi led selection comitte.

 

[LastManstanding]

I like Peter Moore's. Seems like a guy who used data and other analytical tools a lot. Also, has worked with PCB previously so knows how toxic the system is. The only downside I see his that his man management skills are apparently very poor. But that could be offset if he keeps Grant Flower with him(which he might considering Flower's contract has been extended till sept) and gets Mushtaq in his team like he did for the England coaching roster.
And I think, even man management might not be that big of a issue as the first term was only K.P who also had issues with Flower and in the second term he was let go. Also, he has worked with Junaid at Lancashire and they had a very good relationship. So. Might not be a very bad choice. Might also bring in couple of data scientist for the England tour which may be very beneficial in the long run, even for Inzi led selection comitte.

He was ripped apart by English media and fans for his infatuation with data. And what kind of coach one is without people management skills? His record with Lancashire was good but I dont think he was ever qualified to be the coach of an international team. Pakistan would do well to avoid him.

 

[Boi]

Good choice. If anything, we need someone who is more analytical and come up with good strategies as that's what we've lacked in the past.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

The PCB will need to look at the data before making a decision

 

[street cricketer]

The PCB will need to look at the data before making a decision

Lol

Moores was castigated in the English media for his outdated 90s approach to the LOI game after England bombed at the 50 over world cup and ultimately that was his downfall after he focussed too much on following a set group of plans rather than allowing freedom for players to think on their feet.

I'm not sure whether he'll succeed or not if he takes up the reins but I suspect his 90s approach will fit right into this Pakistan LOI team

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

ECB: Sacks him for poor ODI/T20 batting and 90s approach.

PCB: Wants to hire him because he has no idea about the modern game.

Consdering Moody is not possible , is there really a bette option then Moores?

 

[MightyObnoxious]

He was ripped apart by English media and fans for his infatuation with data. And what kind of coach one is without people management skills? His record with Lancashire was good but I dont think he was ever qualified to be the coach of an international team. Pakistan would do well to avoid him.

I remeber, Bob Wilmer used to be criticised severly and get called 'Lap Top Coach' for his incessant use of the device. Criticism, doesn't detriment the right and wrong of the approach. Results do.
And tbh, Peter Moores was the one who laid the ground work for England's ascent to test no 1. Got the data guys, brought in Mushi and Flower in the coaching mix. But didn't get along with K.P.
As for Man management, you live and you learn. Also, why I mentioned Lancashire because he get in well with Junaid. Junaid is not the yard stick but an indicator that it's not hard and fast that he will not get well along with us.
Also, please bear in mind that we need a different tonic than the one English needed. We need to lean the use of Data. Learn to be methdized. We have all the grit and the gut. Which was the not the case with England.

 

[LordJames]

Peter was sacked because his coaching wasn't up to scratch, England felt that they needed to play without fear.

Pakistan has the same issues and more so i.e. they need to play a Fearless brand of Cricket in ODIs & T20s so Peter is the wrong choice.

Pakistan are a pretty settled outfit in Tests so no need to ticker with our Test match setup, our issues are with LOIs and Peter is not the solution as his record shows.

 

[LastManstanding]

I remeber, Bob Wilmer used to be criticised severly and get called 'Lap Top Coach' for his incessant use of the device. Criticism, doesn't detriment the right and wrong of the approach. Results do.
And tbh, Peter Moores was the one who laid the ground work for England's ascent to test no 1. Got the data guys, brought in Mushi and Flower in the coaching mix. But didn't get along with K.P.
As for Man management, you live and you learn. Also, why I mentioned Lancashire because he get in well with Junaid. Junaid is not the yard stick but an indicator that it's not hard and fast that he will not get well along with us.
Also, please bear in mind that we need a different tonic than the one English needed. We need to lean the use of Data. Learn to be methdized. We have all the grit and the gut. Which was the not the case with England.

This is what Moores said after England lost to BD in 2015 world up :

'We thought 275 was chase able. We'll have to look at the data.

Do I need to say more?

 

[MightyObnoxious]

This is what Moores said after England lost to BD in 2015 world up :



Do I need to say more?

That portrayal stems, in part, from a radio interview conducted by the BBC moments after England's World Cup exit. In it, Moores was alleged to have said that England would need to check the "data" before coming to any conclusions about the reasons for their failure.

It came to be a defining moment in his downfall. It has been used to illustrate his perceived faults: an obsession with stats and a propensity to overanalyse. England's talented young players, it was said, were stifled by such a policy.

But it never happened. As was reported by ESPNcricinfo, Moores actually said "later" in that BBC interview. But his words were misheard - an honest and understandable mistake as there was a minor microphone malfunction during the interview - and while the BBC subsequently apologised to him (at first verbally and then in writing), the error was public and the apology was private. The damage, in terms of public perception, was done.

The image of Moores as stats-driven has little basis in reality. So frustrated was Nathan Leamon, England's analyst at the World Cup, by the lack of use of his statistics that it was briefly feared he may go home. Meanwhile Paul Farbrace, Moores' faithful deputy and the man who has recently been portrayed as a liberator of the England team, has said repeatedly that the Sri Lanka team he coached to success in the 2014 World T20 used such data far more.[/Quote]

 

[ExplicitAI]

Very poor choice. We're not going to make much improvement if that's what we're looking for. I would rather have Arthur Morris, Tom Moody or Dean Jones.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

the way i hear it it Aaquib and Moores are the final two candidates, the choice is easy folks

 

[MightyObnoxious]

the way i hear it it Aaquib and Moores are the final two candidates, the choice is easy folks

And Aqib hasn't even applied but Pakistan so.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

And Aqib hasn't even applied but Pakistan so.

he hasnt out of ego but the PCB will still consider him and have narrowed it between him and Moores

 

[MightyObnoxious]

he hasnt out of ego but the PCB will still consider him and have narrowed it between him and Moores

Wohi na, if Moores can apply, Micky Arthur can apply to Aqib kon hota hai ego wala?

 

[Last Monetarist]

We're really scraping the bottom of the barrel here, confident the knives will be out when people see our limited overs teams regressing further into the abyss. Moores, by all accounts, is a good coach to teach our batsmen the technical intricacies, particularly defence, required to survive at the highest level. Fear no one is going to listen, and it's not really what we need right now.

I'd rather hire a local coach if the choice is down to Moores and Arthur, because it's all going to be more money thrown down the drain by the board without much to show for it.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Wohi na, if Moores can apply, Micky Arthur can apply to Aqib kon hota hai ego wala?

Mickey Arthur has a bad relationship with the PCB stemming from what he wrote in his book few years back infering certain matches in the 07 tour were fixed

 

[Last Monetarist]

Mickey Arthur has a bad relationship with the PCB stemming from what he wrote in his book few years back infering certain matches in the 07 tour were fixed

If that was the case, wouldn't they have stopped him coaching Karachi in the PSL?

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

If that was the case, wouldn't they have stopped him coaching Karachi in the PSL?

and risk annoying ARY , nah dont think so

 

[Ahson8]

Would take Dean Jones over Moores. How about making Grant Flower the head coach for an interim period lol ?

 

[MightyObnoxious]

and risk annoying ARY , nah dont think so

I don't think, Arthur has a bad relationship with PCB. I remember, PCB was interested in appointing him at the time of Whatmore's appointment as well but mixed it up by contacting CSA while he was in Australia so don't think PCB or Arthur have bad feeling about each other.

 

[Hawkeye]

Consdering Moody is not possible , is there really a bette option then Moores?

Anyone over this guy.

He'll further destroy our ODI/T20 teams. Why do you think England sacked him and then immediately had a change of ideology, adopted modern cricket and rose up?

Our Tests are already well settled.

I'd take Aqib over him.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Anyone over this guy.

He'll further destroy our ODI/T20 teams. Why do you think England sacked him and then immediately had a change of ideology, adopted modern cricket and rose up?

Our Tests are already well settled.

I'd take Aqib over him.

Aqib will try to turn the team into Aquibstan, you dont need a guy of his ego in.

Moores will know of his faults and clearly wants to rebuild his reputation. He will know that modern cricket has changed drastically. Further we need a more anlaytical person as well, we are in a far more different position then England was.

 

[LordJames]

Save the money and get some guy from Ranjhi Trophy setup who can actually work on the batting skills.

Get lower level Indian coaches to also work on Junior level

 

[#GreenRoars]

Worst choice available.

 

[MightyObnoxious]

Worst choice available.

Why?

 

[CricketAnalyst]

Lol

Moores was castigated in the English media for his outdated 90s approach to the LOI game after England bombed at the 50 over world cup and ultimately that was his downfall after he focussed too much on following a set group of plans rather than allowing freedom for players to think on their feet.

I'm not sure whether he'll succeed or not if he takes up the reins but I suspect his 90s approach will fit right into this Pakistan LOI team

I have no problem with being obsessed with data or forcing players to adopt team tactics. The problem is he used the wrong data, reached the wrong conclusions and thus lost England many matches. He is using data to support his innate preference for old-school tuk-tuk rather than independently inquiring into what is best.

 

[Justcrazy]

Mickey Arthur is a better choice than Moores.

 

[Last Monetarist]

Mickey Arthur is a better choice than Moores.

It's an unenviable position though. I'd be more scared of how Arthur handled his stint in Australia rather than how things went down for Moores with England. Arthur has much of the same weaknesses as Moores, and pretty similar strengths. Both have a schoolmaster's approach to man-management and I can't imagine that going down too well with our champion cricketers.

 

[James]

LOL. Are Indian bookies involved in influencing this motion?

Pakistan will be whitewashed on a tour of England if they hire Peter 'Please Please No More' Moores.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Pakistan coach criteria:

1. Take 'fear' and 'hesitation' away from our players. Replace with unencumbered mindset.
2. Find a way to become part of Pakistan system. Too many coaches stick to cricket and have no influence in PCB to get what they want.
3. Be firm and strong willed. Don't bend over backwards to prima donnas....
4. ...yet be able to relate to a typical Pakistani cricketer. Reach out to his heart and his brain.
5. Be modern. Not rooted in the 90s. We need to drag our cricket from that era.
6. Has a track record of success in turning teams around. Preferably in International cricket. As coach or as captain.
7. Make cricketers think on their own. Don't spoon feed through videos and data. Pakistani cricketers ultimately become lemmings - when you need lions.
KP.
I can't see either Micky Arthur or Peter Moores fitting the above criteria.

Maybe Moody could fit it? Or we ask someone for the first time to do it - someone like Nasser Hussain or Michael Vaughan. Who knows.

 

[MightyObnoxious]

I don't get this hate for Peter Moores. The guy is one of the few who bothered to apply.
Yes, he had a bad stint with England but look at his 17 year coaching record? Ask Junaid Khan about him who has actually played under him. Also, read what Brendan Taylor has said about him just couple days back.
And read this too. Kindly.http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/story/890289.html
Not a very big fan of his but he is not going to make our team any worse.

 

[MightyObnoxious]

LOL. Are Indian bookies involved in influencing this motion?

Pakistan will be whitewashed on a tour of England if they hire Peter 'Please Please No More' Moores.

Pakistan will be whitewashed regardless.

 

[KyoOne]

Koi bhi chalega over Aqib Javed

 

[LastManstanding]

I don't get this hate for Peter Moores. The guy is one of the few who bothered to apply.
Yes, he had a bad stint with England but look at his 17 year coaching record? Ask Junaid Khan about him who has actually played under him. Also, read what Brendan Taylor has said about him just couple days back.
And read this too. Kindly.http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/story/890289.html
Not a very big fan of his but he is not going to make our team any worse.

He had two unsuccessful stints with England. Clearly shows he isn't cut out for international level.

Not all successful domestic players make it up to the highest level, same can be applied to moores as well.

 

[MightyObnoxious]

He had two unsuccessful stints with England. Clearly shows he isn't cut out for international level.

Not all successful domestic players make it up to the highest level, same can be applied to moores as well.

Yar, coaching is not same as playing. Bad exp with England doesn't mean he will have bad with Pakistan too.

 

[Bilal7]

We need an Aussie to bring some ruthlessness back into our team. Dean Jones would be perfect. However, no coach has a magic wand and the players will have to step up their game if we are to do well on our three overseas tours this year.

 

[Justcrazy]

It's an unenviable position though. I'd be more scared of how Arthur handled his stint in Australia rather than how things went down for Moores with England. Arthur has much of the same weaknesses as Moores, and pretty similar strengths. Both have a schoolmaster's approach to man-management and I can't imagine that going down too well with our champion cricketers.

Yes , Both have pretty much same approach , but still I feel Arthur is better choice in shorter formats , where Pakistan are struggling more.

 

[Junaids]

I am from both Lancashire and England, so I feel qualified to talk about Peter Moores.

He is a good computer-driven coach for low level cricketers. But he has exceedingly limited man-management skills and can't control the bigger egos of the best players.

Mickey Arthur is very similar: he dumped Mitchell Johnson and Shane Watson from the Australian team in favour of inferior players who were easier to control.

It strikes me that Pakistan needs a Big Man in charge who can include and get the best out of all the players involved including ex-fixers and borderline intellectually-deficient guys like Shehzad and Umar Akmal.

The prize for such a person is potentially huge. Can you imagine how good Pakistan could be in Australia if a guy like Dean Jones could get the best out of:

1. Ahmed Shehzad
2. Salman Butt
3. Azhar Ali
4. Umar Akmal
5. Babar Azam
6. Asad Shafiq
7. Sarfraz Ahmed
8. Mohammad Amir
9. Wahab Riaz
10. Yasir Shah
11. Mohammad Asif

 

[MenInG]

I am from both Lancashire and England, so I feel qualified to talk about Peter Moores.

He is a good computer-driven coach for low level cricketers. But he has exceedingly limited man-management skills and can't control the bigger egos of the best players.

Mickey Arthur is very similar: he dumped Mitchell Johnson and Shane Watson from the Australian team in favour of inferior players who were easier to control.

It strikes me that Pakistan needs a Big Man in charge who can include and get the best out of all the players involved including ex-fixers and borderline intellectually-deficient guys like Shehzad and Umar Akmal.

The prize for such a person is potentially huge. Can you imagine how good Pakistan could be in Australia if a guy like Dean Jones could get the best out of:

1. Ahmed Shehzad
2. Salman Butt
3. Azhar Ali
4. Umar Akmal
5. Babar Azam
6. Asad Shafiq
7. Sarfraz Ahmed
8. Mohammad Amir
9. Wahab Riaz
10. Yasir Shah
11. Mohammad Asif

I would suggest that when we have a squad of match-winning cricketers then we start worrying about their egos!

Atm, all of these guys need a reality check and what better than a foreigner who doesn't care or understand their egos

For man-management, by all means hire some local lassiwalla.

 

[Junaids]

I would suggest that when we have a squad of match-winning cricketers then we start worrying about their egos!

Atm, all of these guys need a reality check and what better than a foreigner who doesn't care or understand their egos

For man-management, by all means hire some local lassiwalla.

Well put, but the opposite of my thoughts!

At the moment, a large part of the problem is that you get nothing out of your best batsman - Umar Akmal. He has not learned to knuckle down and play big innings, and keeps playing silly shots.

It is a failure of management if he is now thrown out. What needs to happen is that a good coach with a big reputation - which he will respect - needs to use a mixture of flattery, embarrassment and threats to get him to reach his potential.

Umar Akmal is only 25 years old. He is capable of having 10 to 12 years as Pakistan's pre-eminent batsman, hopefully alongside his cousin Babar Azam.

You need a Viv Richards or a Dean Jones or a Shane Warne to get him to do this. And to be honest, I would be looking at using Dean Jones as the Chief Coach with Shane Warne as a fly-in, fly-out Team Mentor, joining the team for a couple of weeks in England and Australia on a 1 year contract.

 

[Abhilash93]

I remeber, Bob Wilmer used to be criticised severly and get called 'Lap Top Coach' for his incessant use of the device. ..

Are you really comparing Peter Moores with Bob Woolmer ?


Woolmer's knowledge of all the aspects of cricket was unparalleled, be it batting, fast biwling or leg spin. He was an encyclopedia. His vision & understanding of the game was excellent. Have you read his book ?



And laptop is a very basic thing which all coaches use today. He may have been just taking notes on it for all we know. The extent of Peter Moores with data is at a completely different level.

 

[MightyObnoxious]

Are you really comparing Peter Moores with Bob Woolmer ?


Woolmer's knowledge of all the aspects of cricket was unparalleled, be it batting, fast biwling or leg spin. He was an encyclopedia. His vision & understanding of the game was excellent. Have you read his book ?



And laptop is a very basic thing which all coaches use today. He may have been just taking notes on it for all we know. The extent of Peter Moores with data is at a completely different level.

I think, you should reread the convo. Poster I quoted stated that Moores was criticized severely in media for his use of data and then I presented Bob's example to show that media criticism is no yard stick.

 

[silent ischemia]

Peter Moores the next coach?

Well I don't know how reliant the source it but I read on today's edition of jang epaper (online). Sitting here in uk I bank on your website for updates but no thread as yet....

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

If Moores does go ahead and accept then a statistics based methodical approach would be breath of fresh air for "wet your finger and stick it in the air" approach by PCB think tank.

 

[Syed1]

Well the data might be inconclusive at this point in time..

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Well the data might be inconclusive at this point in time..

Bas kar do yaar

 

[Cricfan4eva]

Cricinfo says Moores has declined Pakistan approach.

Perhaps he wasn't satisfied with their 'data'base

 

[Abid Z]

Pathetic comments by some posters about Peter moores and "data". It was a misunderstanding and he was misheard on sky who thought he had said they "will have a look at the data afterwards" when in fact he had said something else and Nasser Hussain misheard. It was clarified later but by then it had gone viral.

Moores was responsible for Sussex winning consecutive titles and put the building blocks in place which successors such as flower and Baylis have benefited from and made England such a strong team. This has been openly admitted by them so if they all agree Moores is eminently qualified as coach then I find it baffling that armchair keyboard kids seem to think they know more about directors and coaches of cricket. As regards his man management skills, well he only had a fallout with pieterson and since then KP Has proven himself to be the idiot we all suspected and moores feared.

 

[Suleiman]

People are too harsh on him here lol, still one of the best coaches and most respected one around
He has transformed pathetic county sides into table toppers within days/weeks after his appointment.

Pak fans are sometimes too ungrateful, this guy was one of the most professional choices. Guess we deserve a paindoo like Aqib.

 

[Justcrazy]

The domestic cricket needs to be improved with long term plans , there is no short cuts .

 

[Cosmic]

Peter Moores declines Pakistan approach for position of Head Coach

Peter Moores has turned down the chance of becoming Pakistan coach. Moores, the former England coach, was approached by the PCB but, after discussions, decided not to pursue the opportunity before a formal offer was made.

While tempted by the chance to return to international coaching, Moores was reluctant to commit to long periods away from his family. "I was hugely flattered to be approached," Moores told ESPNcricinfo. "And I was very tempted by such a prestigious role with an exciting team.

"But having thought about it deeply, I don't think it is the right time for me or my family. I have committed myself to a consultancy role with Nottinghamshire and I am enjoying spending time with my kids as they grow up."

Moores was sacked from his role as England coach for the second time almost exactly 12 months ago. While his reputation took a battering in the media following England's poor World Cup campaign in 2015, it is clear that he is still highly thought of within the game. Both Alastair Cook and Joe Root publically credited Moores for his influence in the aftermath of England's Ashes win last year and Nottinghamshire's form improved dramatically after he joined in a consultancy role last year.

After failing to win any of their first five Championship matches - and only one of their first eight - Notts were bottom of Division One at the start of July. But after Moores joined, they won 14 and drew two of their remaining 20 matches across all competitions including five out of six in the Championship.

He previously coached both Sussex and Lancashire to the County Championship title, forming an especially productive partnership with Mushtaq Ahmed, currently head of Pakistan's National Cricket Academy, during the spell at Sussex. Moores' son, Tom, is a 19-year-old wicketkeeper batsman who represented England in the U-19 World Cup and recently joined the staff at Nottinghamshire.

Waqar Younis stepped down at Pakistan coach almost a month ago after two years in the role. His scathing report into poor discipline within the squad - and his less than flattering views on the leadership skills of Shahid Afridi - were subsequently leaked to the media, while he cited conflicts at board level as another issue inhibiting the team's progress.

The coaching role is understood to be based in Lahore, though Pakistan are likely to continue to play their home games in the UAE for the foreseeable future.

George Dobell is a senior correspondent at ESPNcricinfo

© ESPN Sports Media Ltd.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/story/1007003.html

 

[Justcrazy]

Good for Pakistan.

 

[Shafi]

Good for his career. Our players are brought a shame towards Wolmer, Whatmore, Lawson and Waqar.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

i reckon moody aside ( and he was always unrealistic), moores was the best amongst all the candidates that were linked

Personally im hoping for Jaime Siddons now, but as i have previously mentioned, i think aaqib is sadly a done deal


if a forgein coach was coming we would have known it by now, the media would be leaking his air ticket let alone who he is

 

[Hawkeye]

It's Pakistan who should have declined his approach or whatever.

I don't think any team would want to go back to 1980s approach with Moores. England already suffered a lot, and they've made HUGE improvement after sacking him.

Today's cricket, particularly LOIs are not his cup of tea.

Good for us.

 

[Ahson8]

i reckon moody aside ( and he was always unrealistic), moores was the best amongst all the candidates that were linked

Personally im hoping for Jaime Siddons now, but as i have previously mentioned, i think aaqib is sadly a done deal


if a forgein coach was coming we would have known it by now, the media would be leaking his air ticket let alone who he is

Moores could have been a decent option because of his recent coaching stint with England - could have helped in Test series vs England & Australia (since Eng play them a lot)

Not a fan of Siddons; the only thing Injnow about him is his horrible stint with Bangladesh

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Moores could have been a decent option because of his recent coaching stint with England - could have helped in Test series vs England & Australia (since Eng play them a lot)

Not a fan of Siddons; the only thing Injnow about him is his horrible stint with Bangladesh

I think that's harsh on Siddons. Guys like shakib and tamin emerged under his tutelage . He helped lay the foundations for where Bangladesh are now



A real wild card though is Andy flower. I actually don't think he has applied , but if the rumors are true id go with him, would be interesting regardless of how he goes

 

[Jabo]

Good for his career. Our players are brought a shame towards Wolmer, Whatmore, Lawson and Waqar.

Oh please shut up about Waqar, he brought shame on himself, twice he became the coach, twice he failed, twice he talked big before he got the role, and each time he did, he failed and couldn't backup anything, he's just good with his words, as a coach he's garbage.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

He probably did the right thing.

He would have been made a scapegoat for a team that refuses to learn anything.

 

[Pete Rose]

Oh please shut up about Waqar, he brought shame on himself, twice he became the coach, twice he failed, twice he talked big before he got the role, and each time he did, he failed and couldn't backup anything, he's just good with his words, as a coach he's garbage.

The team won tests on autopilot I guess. Considering they hand not won a series for 2 years prior to his joining

 

[Deewana]

Oh please shut up about Waqar, he brought shame on himself, twice he became the coach, twice he failed, twice he talked big before he got the role, and each time he did, he failed and couldn't backup anything, he's just good with his words, as a coach he's garbage.

Agreed
Some PPers present Waqar as if he was the greatest coach of all time ...he was utter rubbish except bringing Amir back he didn't do one good thing.. He was pretty rubbish

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[yusuf.saya]

why would one apply and when your prospective employer shortlists you as candidate, you backout before even a formal offer is made.

Shows lack of professionalism.

 

[JibranAnsari]

LOL. Are Indian bookies involved in influencing this motion?

Pakistan will be whitewashed on a tour of England if they hire Peter 'Please Please No More' Moores.

We are gonna get whitewashed anyway.

 

[Robert]

The only downside I see his that his man management skills are apparently very poor.

All the Sussex and England boys (except KP) got on fine with Moores.

 

[sam_ahm]

I think any foreign coach will be better than Aaqib and MHK. Mohsin may keep reminding the players about the 3-0 whitewash to death. Going by their actions over the last month or so these two are a huge turn off!

So who is the favorite now? If Andy Flower has indeed applied then I think he'll be a great choice.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Foreign coach will have culture clash with Inzamam. Will need a local coach.

 

[rhony]

Good riddance. English cricket went to another level after sacking Moores. According to grapevine, he's what they call 'bookish' with all the stats and what not. After intense analysis, he's going to say that cross batted heave was one of the most productive shots of Shehzad and will ask him to continue. Nuff said!!!

 

[Robert]

Good riddance. English cricket went to another level after sacking Moores.

The current coaches are building on the spadework Moores put in. Remember the mess England were in after the last Australian Ashes. Trott, KP, Prior and most importantly Swann all went around the same time. Those shoes were hard to fill and it took a couple of years.

 

[ExplicitAI]

Don't even care anyways. Moores was a garbage coach.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

The current coaches are building on the spadework Moores put in. Remember the mess England were in after the last Australian Ashes. Trott, KP, Prior and most importantly Swann all went around the same time. Those shoes were hard to fill and it took a couple of years.

Still think Fabrace is a top quality LOI coach and light years ahead of Moores.

 

[Hasan123]

Seems as though it will be a local coach appointed.

 

[Markhor]

Moores took over at a bad time with England reeling from the 13/14 Ashes whitewash. He isn't the worst coach in the world. Remember he was the one who put the Anderson-Broad new ball pairing together in the first place.

Just hasn't been able to convert his coaching success at county level to internationals.

Andy Flower is an interesting name, you'd think he'd be a feasible option given his brother works for us. However he's a tough taskmaster and not sure how long he'd last.

 

[Shafi]

Aaqib Javed remains in Pakistan frame after Peter Moores declines role

Outgoing UAE cricket coach Aaqib Javed remains in the running to succeed Waqar Younis as Pakistan coach after former England coach Peter Moores turned down the position.

Aaqib confirmed last month that he will leave his role with the UAE at the end of May after four successful years in charge.

The former Pakistan batsman has been considered a leading candidate to replace Waqar, who left the position after a poor World Twenty20 campaign, although he initially withdrew his interest after the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) advertised the vacancy.

Now Moores, who coached England for three years over two spells, has revealed he was approached by the PCB but has declined the role, leaving Aaqib among the remaining candidates.

While Aaqib remains in the frame for the Pakistan coaching position, he is likely to be announced as the director of cricket at Lahore Qalanders, the side who finished last in the first Pakistan Super League.

Coaching Pakistan, traditionally a fractious bunch of talented individuals, is one of the toughest jobs in international cricket.

“I was hugely flattered to be approached," Moores, currently a consultant with Nottinghamshire, told ESPNcricinfo. “And I was very tempted by such a prestigious role with an exciting team.

“But having thought about it deeply, I don’t think it is the right time for me or my family. I have committed myself to a consultancy role with Nottinghamshire and I am enjoying spending time with my kids as they grow up."

After the team’s woeful campaigns both in the Asia Cup and the World T20, the PCB have embarked on rebuilding the side, appointing former cricket captain Inzamam-ul-Haq as the new chief selector.

Source::::http://www.thenational.ae/sport/cri...kistan-frame-after-peter-moores-declines-role

 

[MightyObnoxious]

Really unprofessional by Peter Moores. Why apply if you are not interested? Hope he is black listed from all future jobs in PCB and PSL by the PCB.