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The Arab world will continue to suffer educational and cultural crises until it properly digests the different methodologies of science and religion

Last week, a huge scandal rocked the Tunisian and Arab scientific and educational world: a PhD student submitted a thesis declaring Earth to be flat, unmoving, young (only 13,500 years of age), and the centre of the universe.

Going even bolder and further, the student explicitly rejected the physics of Newton and Einstein, the astronomy of Copernicus and Kepler, the cosmology of the Big Bang, the main models of atmospheric and geological activity, and most of modern climatology.

The student submitted her thesis after five years of work; it was then sent to two assessors, thus passing the first stage of approvals. The reports were expected soon, for the thesis defence to be scheduled.

It was at this stage that fate luckily intervened: a copy of the thesis was “leaked” to the former president of the Tunisian Astronomical Association, who checked that it was not a hoax and then quickly rang the alarm by posting on Facebook the general conclusions of the thesis, verbatim.

Gulf News readers may recall that two years ago, I wrote a column lamenting the talk that a Saudi cleric had given in the UAE insisting that Earth does not rotate, neither around itself nor around the Sun; I described the moment as a “debacle” and tried to draw lessons from it.

This new scandal is much worse, because it does not come from a cleric (that was bad enough) but rather from a PhD student in science, her supervisor held the Professor rank (the highest in academia), and they were explicitly rejecting major parts of modern science.

They also went further than just submit a thesis, they published a paper (in an obscure and disreputable journal) presenting “physical and astronomical arguments” for geo-centrism (Earth being central and fixed in the universe).

The paper is available online, and anyone can quickly check that both the paper and the journal are worthless: countless grammatical errors, mediocre references, puny scientific arguments; the journal is classified as “fake and predatory”, one of those “pay and we’ll publish your article quickly, with no reviewing or editing”...

I don’t mean to belabour the point, but it is worth citing a few ideas from the general conclusion given at the end of the thesis, if at least to fully impress upon the reader the size of the calamity that has just occurred — before we analyse its causes.

The “results” of this doctoral thesis include: the Earth is flat and young, and it stands immobile at the centre of the universe, which is made of only one galaxy; the sun’s diameter is 1,135km (not 1.4 million km), the moon is 908 km wide, and they lie 687 and 23 times closer to Earth, respectively; there are 11 planets; stars are “limited” in number and have a diameter of 292 km (not millions of km).

How does one explain such stunning ignorance of basic astronomy, coupled with such brashness and insolence — rejecting Copernicus, Kepler, Newton, Einstein, Hubble, and everything in science?

In this particular case, I believe this was due to an adherence to religious, scriptural literalism, in other words taking the meanings of religious texts literally and blindly, at the cost of rejecting all knowledge that appears to contradict it, no matter how much evidence supports it.

Indeed, we find in the conclusions of the thesis clear indications of this stand and approach, expressions such as: “using physical and religious arguments”, “also proving the world scale of [Noah’s] flood”, “proposed a new kinematic approach that conforms to the verses of the Quran”, “the roles of the stars are: (1) to be ornaments of the sky; (2) to stone the devils; and (3) as signs to guide creatures in the darkness of earth”; and finally “the geo-centric model... accords with the verses of the Quran and the pronouncements of our Prophet.”

Comeback

Flat-Earthism has lately been making a comeback and spreading like bush fire through social media.

Search for “flat earth” on YouTube and you’ll find almost a million videos; “flat earth society” gets 400,000 pages on the web; “flat earth proof” gets you 200,000 pages; etc.

But this social media trend I attribute to people’s inclination toward conspiracy theories: “Nasa has faked the moon-landing”; “Nasa photoshops space images”; “Give us real proofs that these interplanetary spacecraft are factual”; etc.

In 2001, when the internet was still young, and the “moon-landing hoax” was just emerging as a trending meme (without social media to support its spread), I gave several talks titled “Did Nasa fake the moon landing... or are we miserably failing to educate the public?”

But the latest shocking event (the PhD thesis) implies that we are not only failing to educate the public (that is manifest in the trendy “flat earth” and “Nasa lies” memes on social media) but also our brightest students.

It has been reported that the PhD student had previously graduated at the top of her class.

What we are failing to clarify and communicate is how to distinguish between scientific knowledge (facts, models, theories, etc.) and religious knowledge (what verses mean and what they intend to teach us).

I believe the Arab-Muslim world will continue to suffer educational and cultural crises, not to mention a total lack of understanding of science, until it properly digests the different methodologies of science and religion, without diminishing the value of each.

http://m.gulfnews.com/opinion/thinkers/phd-thesis-the-earth-is-flat-1.2009202

2017, ladies and gentlemen.
 
I do not understand what author meant by different methodologies. ..

So for religious method earth could be flat?
 
It's better for her to use the tactic of denial and just say that as per islam earth is not flat.
 
It's not about Arabs, it's about religious mindset.

Plus, Egypt, Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria etc etc are not genetically Arabs.
 
She should be put in a crystal cage and then this could be attached to giant helium balloons.

To prove her "thesis" wrong :facepalm:
 
Remarkable display of independent thinking. How will science progress if everyone aceepts Copernicus, Kepler, Newton, and Einstein as dogma? Phd is all about thinking out of the box and bringing in new perspectives :afridi
 

Was talking about the general attitude. Not all of us are scientists and rely on the mass media for news about scientific research. Reading a scientific journal is completely different from reading its synopsis in the news and almost impossible to follow without specialized knowledge. Mass media outlets are notorious in the scientific community for oversimplifying and drawing grand conclusions from studies that the original authors are much more cautious about. Most scientists accept that what we know is a very small fraction of what we don’t but there is very little appreciation of this fact outside the scientific community. It is very easy for an average person to have much more confidence in science than scientists themselves. There was recently a study about Canaanite DNA you can google which led to a lot of unnecessary controversies due to how it was reported in the media. We have almost built a misplaced aura of infallibility around science.

This is a discussion for another thread though so sorry for going offtopic.
 
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Was talking about the general attitude. Not all of us are scientists and rely on the mass media for news about scientific research. Reading a scientific journal is completely different from reading its synopsis in the news and almost impossible to follow without specialized knowledge. Mass media outlets are notorious in the scientific community for oversimplifying and drawing grand conclusions from studies that the original authors are much more cautious about. Most scientists accept that what we know is a very small fraction of what we don’t but there is very little appreciation of this fact outside the scientific community. It is very easy for an average person to have much more confidence in science than scientists themselves. There was recently a study about Canaanite DNA you can google which led to a lot of unnecessary controversies due to how it was reported in the media. We have almost built a misplaced aura of infallibility around science.

This is a discussion for another thread though so sorry for going offtopic.

Yeah even if that was true please I don't see how it can remotely be compared to the kind of stuff when it comes to religion.
 
If earth isn't flat how do you guys explain this map:

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Talk nah haters
 
Anyone who thinks the Earth isn't flat hasn't been to the Midwest, Illinois in particular. Or the Canadian prairies for that matter, which is the Midwest, only politer.
 
These things are not at all uncommon. As I mentioned a few weeks earlier, I came across some PhD students recently at the University of Gujrat who were researching methods of "using organic produce to alter the psyche of people who don't pray". We had the infamous(or, to be more accurate, almost completely unknown in Pakistan) djinn incident where a Physics Head of Department at Quaid e Azam university set about harnessing the energy of Djinns to solve Pakistan's energy crisis (this was back in the 80s, and yes, that's how far back our energy woes go), his masterpiece being when he presented this proposal at a conference held in Islamabad with scientists from several (mainly Muslim) countries in attendance. To see where this problem stems from, here are some of the question an interview panel asked potential Physics professors at Quaid e Azam university in 1987-88:

• What are the names of the Holy Prophet's wives?
• Recite the prayer Dua-e-Qunoot.
• When was the Pakistan Resolution adopted?
• What is the difference between different azan's?
• What does your [the candidate's] name mean?
• Give the various names of God.

This kind of thing is common across the world, with Turkey recently dropping evolution from Biology textbooks (or Pakistani KPK textbooks that call it 'nonsense' and 'half baked theory'), approximately half of Americans deny evolution, the only first world country with such high numbers (it is less than 20% in virtually every other developed country) and, not coincidentally, also the only first world country where religion is an important part of every day life.
 
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These things are not at all uncommon. As I mentioned a few weeks earlier, I came across some PhD students recently at the University of Gujrat who were researching methods of "using organic produce to alter the psyche of people who don't pray". We had the infamous(or, to be more accurate, almost completely unknown in Pakistan) djinn incident where a Physics Head of Department at Quaid e Azam university set about harnessing the energy of Djinns to solve Pakistan's energy crisis (this was back in the 80s, and yes, that's how far back our energy woes go), his masterpiece being when he presented this proposal at a conference held in Islamabad with scientists from several (mainly Muslim) countries in attendance. To see where this problem stems from, here are some of the question an interview panel asked potential Physics professors at Quaid e Azam university in 1987-88:

• What are the names of the Holy Prophet's wives?
• Recite the prayer Dua-e-Qunoot.
• When was the Pakistan Resolution adopted?
• What is the difference between different azan's?
• What does your [the candidate's] name mean?
• Give the various names of God.

This kind of thing is common across the world, with Turkey recently dropping evolution from Biology textbooks (or Pakistani KPK textbooks that call it 'nonsense' and 'half baked theory'), approximately half of Americans deny evolution, the only first world country with such high numbers (it is less than 20% in virtually every other developed country) and, not coincidentally, also the only first world country where religion is an important part of every day life.


So if someone answered those questions correctly and had absolutely no clue about physics he would have become a physics professor?
 
So if someone answered those questions correctly and had absolutely no clue about physics he would have become a physics professor?

Probably. This was during the Zia era when there was a lot of focus on replacing non conformists and free thinkers in educational institutions with yes men and members of the religious orthodoxy. Pervez Hoodbhoy, in his book Islam and Science, shares many such anecdotes(he has taught at universities in Pakistan and across the world, including the like of Stanford and MIT as visiting faculty).
[MENTION=22846]Nostalgic[/MENTION] has some experience with Pakistani universities so he can shed some more light on what goes on behind the scenes and what kind of characters populate these places.
 
I love how she uses random "research" on the stars, sun, moon, and universe to defend her position.

You could defend anything like that.

:))
 
The Bermuda Triangle is real. When ships and planes just go off the edge of our flat planet, they dissappear and that's the Bermuda Triangle. That's where saddam was hidIng his wmd, that's where all the Mexicans come from, they climb up into murica from under the edge of the earth, and Sarah palin can see it from her backyard, she wishes Obama would ride a boat down that edge and disappear. And last but not least, trump doesn't believe in global warming because the ocean levels can never rise due to the water flowing off the edge of planet earth when it gets hot.
 
'Mad' Mike Hughes dies after crash-landing homemade rocket

A US daredevil has been killed during an attempted launch of a homemade rocket in the Californian desert, reports say.

"Mad" Mike Hughes, 64, crash-landed his steam-powered rocket shortly after take-off near Barstow on Saturday.

A video on social media shows a rocket being fired into the sky before plummeting to the ground nearby.

Hughes was well-known for his belief that the Earth was flat. He hoped to prove his theory by going to space.

Saturday's launch was reportedly filmed as part of Homemade Astronauts, a new TV series about amateur rocket makers to be aired on the US Science Channel. The project had to be carried out on a tight budget.

With the help of his partner Waldo Stakes, Hughes was trying to reach an altitude of 5,000ft (1,525m) while riding his steam-powered rocket, according to Space.com.

In the video of the launch, a parachute can be seen trailing behind the rocket, apparently deployed too early, seconds after take-off.

In a tweet, the Science Channel said Hughes had died pursuing his dream.

San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department said its officers were called to a rocket launch event at around 14:00 local time (22:00 GMT) on Saturday.

The sheriff's office said "a man was pronounced deceased after the rocket crashed in the open desert". The identity of the man was not released.

But celebrity news website TMZ reported that Hughes was the deceased.

Darren Shuster, a former representative for Hughes, told TMZ the daredevil was "one-of-a-kind".

"When God made Mike he broke the mould. The man was the real deal and lived to push the edge. He wouldn't have gone out any other way! RIP" he said.

The daredevil, who lived in Apple Valley, made headlines internationally when he announced his intention to prove his theory that the Earth was flat.

In March last year, Hughes managed an altitude of 1,870ft (570m) before deploying his parachutes and landing with a bump.

Speaking afterwards, Hughes said: "Am I glad I did it? Yeah, I guess. I'll feel it in the morning. I won't be able to get out of bed. At least I can go home and have dinner and see my cats tonight."

He set a Guinness World Record in 2002 for the longest limousine jump - over 31 metres (103 ft) in a Lincoln Town Car stretched limo.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51602655
 
I can't feel sorry for Mad Mike. He made his own bed. You live by sword and you die by sword.
 
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