[PICS] Reception for Pakistan players by the PCB in appreciation of the team's recent performances

[SpiritOf1903]

No-one with a Burnley wallet for Rizbar?

 

[hitthestump]

If Pakistani fans thinking losing two finals, losing a home Test and ODI series makes this a successful year then it sums up the low expectations of the fans. It reinforces the belief that Pakistan is now a small team and therefore, with small expectations.

Yes. That is what we are.

Man for man we are comfortably a middle of the pack cricketing nation. We have barely any superstars, hardly any players in their prime, and not even home conditions are much of an advantage for us yet as we are still adjusting from the UAE.

PSL is round the corner and will prove once again that Pakistan has zero batting talent.

The fact we have fans moaning that we only made the finals is one hell of a testament to the job they are doing with very limited resources.

 

[ChennaiFan]

The fans are the ultimate consumers of the game. It is evident that the team was able to satisfy and make a good number of their fans happy. So, they have succeeded and these celebrations have some merit.

On a serious note, the PCB could have found other ways to encourage them rather than these celebrations. I remember, after returning from the WC 2003 in South Africa, the Indian team celebrated - they met some Government officials at lunch or dinner. There were rumors that they refused to sit with journalists. In a way, some of the youngsters have started behaving like superstars. And we know what happened in the 2007 ODI WC. Let us hope Pakistan doesn't become a victim of unnecessary hype and hope they play well in the coming years.

 

[Ashmal]

Imagine BCCI organising this after India lost against Nz in WTC final.
A tournament in which you can't actually go to the finals with flukes.

Too bad, India can't even fluke a tournament win nowadays.

 

[Energy]

Good gesture by the PCB. Hypocritics wannabees here are just jaalus as usual.

 

[Ashmal]

The fans are the ultimate consumers of the game. It is evident that the team was able to satisfy and make a good number of their fans happy. So, they have succeeded and these celebrations have some merit.

On a serious note, the PCB could have found other ways to encourage them rather than these celebrations. I remember, after returning from the WC 2003 in South Africa, the Indian team celebrated - they met some Government officials at lunch or dinner. There were rumors that they refused to sit with journalists. In a way, some of the youngsters have started behaving like superstars. And we know what happened in the 2007 ODI WC. Let us hope Pakistan doesn't become a victim of unnecessary hype and hope they play well in the coming years.

You're reading too much into it.

I think Ramiz organised this event just to brush aside the negativity created by some unwarranted over-the-top criticism by a few toxic ex-players and their cheerleaders.

Just an attempt to lift the spirit of the boys ahead of the upcoming home season.

 

[ChennaiFan]

You're reading too much into it.

I think Ramiz organised this event just to brush aside the negativity created by some unwarranted over-the-top criticism by a few toxic ex-players and their cheerleaders.

Just an attempt to lift the spirit of the boys ahead of the upcoming home season.

Oh okay, I understand the reason now. A good effort by Ramiz then.
Negative criticism will never help young players and the ex-players and journalists should represent the media better.

 

[Shafi]

Our players already lack of liability and mostly play for personal stats rather than win. This grand dinner will create more negative impact on our players. They will be more relax and will not give their best effort in future knowing that they have already done their job. Pathetic crawling attitude by Ramiz.

 

[Rana]

Our players already lack of liability and mostly play for personal stats rather than win. This grand dinner will create more negative impact on our players. They will be more relax and will not give their best effort in future knowing that they have already done their job. Pathetic crawling attitude by Ramiz.

It’s more a case of:

“Our critics will not be proven right”

 

[gazza619]

If Pakistani fans thinking losing two finals, losing a home Test and ODI series makes this a successful year then it sums up the low expectations of the fans. It reinforces the belief that Pakistan is now a small team and therefore, with small expectations.

We fans have high expectations of this team. It is you actually who expects crap and boy every time they prove you wrong.

 

[ex-q-zit]

What accountability? The team reached the finals. England lost to ireland and still won and celebrated, was there accountability there?

There were no loopholes. We were the second best and lost in the finals.

If you feel Pak team has no loopholes to fix and everything is picture perfect then good luck to you. As far as I recall ENG had their destiny in their hands and didn't depend on other results to go their way. Secondly, ENg lost on D/L method with 2 set batsmen playing and others like woakes and curran yet to come who are no mugs with the bat. Unlike paksitan who lost chains 130. Thirdly, then I guess you woud still be happy to carry Haider, Asif and Kushdil in the team as no accountability about their skills to play international level. Fourthly, out of 18 members 3 of them were either unfit or not match fit. Yet their were made to play fullt realizing it could be detrimental for their career. Lastly how did Haris play ahead of Kushdil who was with teh team all year long. This meant they knew Kushdil was not good enough yet defended his selection arrogantly at every press meet.

I rest my case, nothing else to say.

 

[gazza619]

Oh boy you really are a minnow

And you are the one who is living in the glory of 92 (hence your user name). You think that Pakistan was number 1 in the 90s, it wasnt. We were a 3/4 team. Now if we have moved to number 4/5.

If a mid tier team punches above its weight, it needs to be appreciated. Dont expect the likes of Iftikhar and Shan bat like Sachin or Lara.

 

[Mamoon]

We fans have high expectations of this team. It is you actually who expects crap and boy every time they prove you wrong.

If fans had high expectations then they wouldn’t consider 2022 a successful year and there wouldn’t be any ceremonies to celebrate their failures and finishing second best.

Pakistan achieved nothing this year except winning one tri-series. That is the only thing that they won apart from an ODI series at home to a heavily depleted Australia.

If finishing runner-ups in a World Cup and an Asia Cup are achievements for our fans good for them, but at least they should not embarrass themselves by claiming that they have high expectations.

 

[Saj]

Improvements are needed in all 3 formats in all facets.

We have a decent T20I bowling line-up. Apart from that there isn't much to be too excited about.

 

[asadee]

Its just a reception whats the big deal. Our country just needs an excuse to criticise

 

[Markhor]

Pakistanis view everything in black and white - either we are the best thing since sliced bread or a minnow team. I remember in 2015-16 we were whitewashed vs ENG in UAE before crashing out of group stages of Asia Cup and World Cup. We've come a long way since then.

However what's also true is we've absolutely nothing to show for the last 12 months in terms of silverware except a Banglawash tri-series.

We bottled a World Cup semi-final from a dominant position in our second home of Dubai, an Asia Cup final against a weak Sri Lanka team who were 58-5, and were totally outplayed in the final vs ENG.

Our captain, given near-dictatorial authority by our Chairman, refuses to learn from his mistakes. Meanwhile our much vaunted opening pair, whose ICC rankings and stats were quoted breathlessly by their fans, flopped miserably.

These receptions should be reserved for big series or trophy wins. Instead it's an exercise in papering over the cracks.

 

[moghul]

Event shows our losing mentality and low expectation from the team now .

 

[Saj]

Just wondering if other Boards organise such events when their team has won no major title.

 

[Major]

If you feel Pak team has no loopholes to fix and everything is picture perfect then good luck to you. As far as I recall ENG had their destiny in their hands and didn't depend on other results to go their way. Secondly, ENg lost on D/L method with 2 set batsmen playing and others like woakes and curran yet to come who are no mugs with the bat. Unlike paksitan who lost chains 130. Thirdly, then I guess you woud still be happy to carry Haider, Asif and Kushdil in the team as no accountability about their skills to play international level. Fourthly, out of 18 members 3 of them were either unfit or not match fit. Yet their were made to play fullt realizing it could be detrimental for their career. Lastly how did Haris play ahead of Kushdil who was with teh team all year long. This meant they knew Kushdil was not good enough yet defended his selection arrogantly at every press meet.

I rest my case, nothing else to say.

England lost to Ireland, there is no ifs and buts. Ireland had bowledd well and England had lost crucial wickets. ..

its not Pakistans fault if SA was not good enough that they lost to Netherlands.

Pakistan had things in their own hands. They had to win the last three games. ANd they did that.

Pakistan came runner up. India has only defeated 1 top team from the combine world t20 2021 and 2022 torunament. So I would be more concerned about that if I were you.

 

[Usman Chadda]

England lost to Ireland, there is no ifs and buts. Ireland had bowledd well and England had lost crucial wickets. ..

its not Pakistans fault if SA was not good enough that they lost to Netherlands.

Pakistan had things in their own hands. They had to win the last three games. ANd they did that.

Pakistan came runner up. India has only defeated 1 top team from the combine world t20 2021 and 2022 torunament. So I would be more concerned about that if I were you.

Agree with your post, but a poor Indian team is not a barometer for the performance of our team. We should focus on our performance only and compare them to successful teams across both World Cups, and unfortunately we came up short twice when we had an excellent chance to go all the way.

 

[Major]

Agree with your post, but a poor Indian team is not a barometer for the performance of our team. We should focus on our performance only and compare them to successful teams across both World Cups, and unfortunately we came up short twice when we had an excellent chance to go all the way.

Its not, but than again it surprises me that why are Indians concern for how we celebrate and whom we host dinners for. This is the same country that are first ones to say "internal matters"

And if people are going to take pot shots at our team, its better to look at their own. Yes Pakistan lost to a minnow, but atleast Pakistan has been consistent in not only finishing well but getting wins against top teams.

In the space of 12 months, we played 2 world t20s, both these tournaments were played at different conditions.. Yet, we were able to defeat New Zealand twice, India and South Africa. Thats 4 wins against top teams. Meanwhile India has won only one match against a top team in two world t20s and that was against us. They lost to Pakistan, NZ, SA and England.

Yes Pakistan lost to Zimbabwe but that was because we had trouble with reading conditions, not trouble with our team. If our team was bad we wouldn't had won the next 4 games to reach the finals. Similar way when England gave a bad performance against Afg or lost to Ireland, they still showed they were a good enough team.

Atleast when we go to alien conditions and when we lose to other teams, we take those as learnings and than rectify our mistakes in the coming matches to finish well in tournament. India on the other hand cant rectify their mistakes they made.

So advice for people that before taking pot shots at OUR TEAM, better to look at your very own first.

 

[hitthestump]

Just wondering if other Boards organise such events when their team has won no major title.

Some of our previous captains were even better than that.

They would go out and celebrate before the final had even happened

In all honestly this isn't a big deal. We weren't fantastic, we weren't bad. It's a young side on the right track. If this wasn't such a dead period in cricket it'd barely be a discussion point. Roll on the England series so discussions can become meaningful again.

 

[Caved12]

Just continue to win and improve the standard of your cricket, that is all I care about.

 

[KyoOne]

Please allow me to list Pakistan’s achievements in 2022:

- lost a home Test series to Australia
- drew a Test series in Sri Lanka
- bottled the Asia Cup Final.
- lost a home T20I series to a severely depleted England team
- won the tri-series in New Zealand
- lost the T20 WC final

There is one word that describes Pakistani cricketers this year: losers.

Mediocre team, mediocre board, mediocre expectations, mediocre mindset.

The solitary win against Sri Lanka too was shady, there's alleged match fixing by pitch curator & players, allowing Pakistan to chase 340 with ball not spinning on 4th & 5th days.

However LOI bowlers have been far from losers, they're the only ones worthy of celebration. Amongst batsmen, only M Haris can be highly spoken about, someone who was not trusted to be even in the main squad

 

[Ashmal]

Just wondering if other Boards organise such events when their team has won no major title.

Agreed.

But in which other country do the ex-cricketers make personal attacks against their own players, in the middle of a WC.

It goes both ways.

 

[Rana]

Agreed.

But in which other country do the ex-cricketers make personal attacks against their own players, in the middle of a WC.

It goes both ways.

So you admit that this dinner is just in retaliation to the ex cricketers? That too after Babar/PCB made it clear that they don’t listen to outside criticism. Surely this dinner just makes it obvious that they are desperately trying to get one over them

 

[MenInG]

Think JUST a dinner would have been fine.

They didn't need to do it as a victory parade type thing.

 

[PakLFC]

Totally unnecessary. They returned empty handed.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Celebrating medocrity, no surprise with the clowns in charge at PCB.

 

[gazza619]

Think JUST a dinner would have been fine.

They didn't need to do it as a victory parade type thing.

Why though? What rule book are you looking at?

An employer wants to praise it’s employees. Why are we in pain?

 

[adi_62941]

For the first time after a long, we are seeing pakistan cricket board is building a team for future. We need to give confidence to babar and co. and let them showcase their skills. Offcourse with the restarting of home international cricket, we will improve only and we are already on a right track

 

[MenInG]

Why though? What rule book are you looking at?

An employer wants to praise it’s employees. Why are we in pain?

Because it's in the public eye.

If your company holds a feel-good dinner, they do it within their 4 walls.

PCB could hold this behind closed doors, or they have to face the wrath/criticism of the public, who let's face it, are also stakeholders.

 

[Shafi]

For the first time after a long, we are seeing pakistan cricket board is building a team for future. We need to give confidence to babar and co. and let them showcase their skills. Offcourse with the restarting of home international cricket, we will improve only and we are already on a right track

His ultra-defensive and brainless captaincy already cost us 3 big cups which include 2 WC. How many World Cups you want to loose under him.

 

[MenInG]

This reception looking so silly now!

 

[Mamoon]

Will PCB host a reception to celebrate Pakistan getting rinsed by England?

 

[AAli98]

Will PCB host a reception to celebrate Pakistan getting rinsed by England?

Anything less than 750 by close of play should be a national holiday tomorrow

 

[Rana]

How silly does this all look now

 

[shah_1]

Ramiz Raja has to be biggest joke in Pakistan's cricket history.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Cake cutting celebrations tomorrow to celebrate conceeding 1000 runs in a test match. Im sure Rameez is at the bakery now.

 

[moghul]

If coming 2nd in a competition earns the team a presidential reception , Pakistan team has already earned another one after this Pindi test.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Oh well who was proved right again.....

 

[ex-q-zit]

Just like how everyone in PCB went missing after Pak lost to ZIM last month again everyone will go missing. Hosting that dinner with such aplomb now looks so silly. Unless Ramiz accepts he, mo wasim, Babar and coaching staff have failed such results will keep coming.

For those who compare Pak with India's performance in multi-team tournaments for past years india have atleast chnaged their captain and coach, sacked the selection committee. What have Pak done? How is wasim still in his role after the blunder of including the 3 musketeers in the middle order despite repeated failures.

 

[Mamoon]

A reception for getting whitewashed by England at home? Looking forward to it.