[PICS/VIDS] Political banners against Pakistan Government flown over Headingley - Is this right?

[MenInG]

Should this be allowed?

Should ICC not for security reasons block the airspace over grounds?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">An aeroplane flying above Headingley with this message <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvAFG?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvAFG</a> <a href="https://t.co/EVgfj5waAy">pic.twitter.com/EVgfj5waAy</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1144910597395570692?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 29, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Ronaldo7]

What was the post of giving it more attention??
Should have not tweeted it.

 

[Madplayer]

Absolutely sickening. We all know who is behind this.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

What’s happening in Baochistan? Sorry I haven’t read any news on Pakistan lately

 

[Mueez]

ICC should take notice of this.

Doubt they will do.

 

[Madplayer]

What’s happening in Baochistan? Sorry I haven’t read any news on Pakistan lately

India is trying to fuel terrorism there.

 

[161]

Delete this thread please

 

[cricket.mad]

India is trying to fuel terrorism there.

Is it same as Pakistan doing for 3 decades in Kashmir ?

 

[UP]

What disappearances? And who is paying for this? This is not cheap.

 

[Mamoon]

The current government promoted and encouraged the culture of politicizing sporting events, so they shouldn’t have a problem with this.

They are simply getting a taste of their own medicine, although the taste is bitter and the dosage is higher.

 

[Balthazar]

Like the creativity. Is there any relation between Balochistan and Afghanistan?

 

[Mamoon]

Like the creativity. Is there any relation between Balochistan and Afghanistan?

Both have been used by India to rightfully get back at Pakistan for interfering in Kashmir.

 

[fasihulhaq94]

The current government promoted and encouraged the culture of politicizing sporting events, so they shouldn’t have a problem with this.

They are simply getting a taste of their own medicine, although the taste is bitter and the dosage is higher.

how did the government do that?

 

[Mamoon]

how did the government do that?

They encouraged anti-PMLN and pro-PTI slogans and flags in cricket matches. It started in UAE but the disease also spread to Pakistan for PSL and England for the Champions Trophy.

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ICC message about an aeroplane flying over Headingley today displaying political messages <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CWC19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CWC19</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvAFG?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvAFG</a> <a href="https://t.co/gafSyfaS6K">pic.twitter.com/gafSyfaS6K</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1144948263596040192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 29, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Madplayer]

Is it same as Pakistan doing for 3 decades in Kashmir ?

3 decades? Kashmiri struggle for Independence started way before India got its independence. Perhaps read up more on history?

 

[MenInG]

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Sikh Khalistan protesters at the same game.

 

[irfan]

Should not be allowed,neither should Khalistan flags be flown at Pakistan games and tbh nor should AJK flags.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Don't really see anything too controversial there. I doubt anyone outside of Pakistan would even know what the message is about. Probably 90% of people inside Pakistan wouldn't know either.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Can anyone at the ground confirm a plane did fly over with the Balochistan message?

 

[pillionrider]

at some posters here having a problem with highlighting something that happened - a fact. But zero issue with anti-India slogans.

Typical.

Keep your denials coming. Feelsgoodman.

 

[KingKhanWC]

We need to find out who paid for this plane to send this message? Pathetic and clearly inciting tensions.

Imagine if a plane flew over an Indian match with Free Kashmir slogan?

 

[ElRaja]

Thanks bro.

We need to find out who paid for this plane to send this message? Pathetic and clearly inciting tensions.

Imagine if a plane flew over an Indian match with Free Kashmir slogan?

if the plane has a code u can see who its registered to, pressure the company to release the information. might work, might not.

 

[Loralai]

No it should not have happened as sports and politics should not mix.

 

[KingKhanWC]

if the plane has a code u can see who its registered to, pressure the company to release the information. might work, might not.

If anyone can post a picture of the plane , this would help. I have a friend who works for the civil aviation authority, he may be able to find out.

 

[ElRaja]

If anyone can post a picture of the plane , this would help. I have a friend who works for the civil aviation authority, he may be able to find out.

i think ive seen a picture but the plane too far to make out its code :/

 

[amirm]

West Yorkshire police and ICC might release statements soon so we should find out more about the plane. In my opinion, political protests/messages during a cricket game is ridiculous.

 

[JaDed]

Absolutely sickening. We all know who is behind this.

Really?

 

[KingKhanWC]

It will soon be known who paid for this plane. Im guessing Indians are behind this, Afghans wouldn't bother.

Indians still upset after the hiding they took in the short confilct earlier this year.

 

[JaDed]

Politics and sports shouldn't mix but South Asians always do it and gets even more highlighted in UK everytime..

 

[PakLFC]

No one cares about such small things. Fact that most didn't even notice says it all. Baluchistan is an integral part of Pak and will remain so. If terrorists their have been eliminated then such silly banners are nothing. Don't see any Baluchi people protesting during the match.

 

[TheNightWatchman]

Can anyone at the ground confirm a plane did fly over with the Balochistan message?

There were pictures posted by Saj earlier. Thinnk he removed them. And I definitely heard plane noises in the first innings.

 

[Sherlock]

I was tld it kicked off after a plane, which was given the all-clear to fly, was shown flying with the banner "Free Baluchistan"

Then I saw it with my own eyes it kicked off again inside the stadium when Pakistan clinched the match.

Utter disgrace.

 

[Sherlock]

I was tld it kicked off after a plane, which was given the all-clear to fly, was shown flying with the banner "Free Baluchistan"

Then I saw it with my own eyes it kicked off again inside the stadium when Pakistan clinched the match.

Utter disgrace.

Meant to say the plane WASN'T given the all-clear to fly

 

[tahir_dj]

I was tld it kicked off after a plane, which was given the all-clear to fly, was shown flying with the banner "Free Baluchistan"

Then I saw it with my own eyes it kicked off again inside the stadium when Pakistan clinched the match.

Utter disgrace.

Thay banner was so cringy it was keep on doing rounds and that really ****** off alOt of fans

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Politics and sports shouldn't mix but South Asians always do it and gets even more highlighted in UK everytime..

But we haven't had this at any of the other games, so what makes the Pakistan/Afghan game so special to fly this message?

Pakistan/India almost went to war a few months before the world cup, but no political messages or fighting between fans in their recent game.

 

[JaDed]

But we haven't had this at any of the other games, so what makes the Pakistan/Afghan game so special to fly this message?

Pakistan/India almost went to war a few months before the world cup, but no political messages or fighting between fans in their recent game.

There was a Khalistan banner too if you notice.. Plus I think Indian and Pak players try their best not to instigate and most fans too..

 

[Tommo]

British Pakistanis shouldn't let this one slide and should knock on all legal doors.. although nothing will come of it I guarantee you. You will see more anti -Pakistan banners from buses to planes and all the way to your local library and Universities in future (esp Balochistan stuff)- this is what you get for being too nice all the time. Indians on the other hand - would have shut this type of stuff down real quickly- the police would have been all over it.

 

[Ronaldo7]

at some posters here having a problem with highlighting something that happened - a fact. But zero issue with anti-India slogans.

Typical.

Keep your denials coming. Feelsgoodman.

Very rich coming from an Indian.

Why would we have any issue with anti India slogans???
Do Indians have any issue with anti pak slogans?? )

It's a two way lane mate

 

[Tommo]

Afghans are not behind the banners, it's Indians. The police will be licking their lips at identifying these Afghans to arrest them. There was a massive anti-illegal immigrant operation just recently, the government is working hard to deport people and I hope all Afghan illegal immigrants are deported. I cant feel sorry for people who claim to be refugees but then start violence and disorder in a nation which gave them safety and food.

You and i. We are on the same side. I hope they get arrested for their antics today - and agree on the illegal Afghans being deported. As for Indians - maybe Pakistanis should grow a pair and hoist free Indian occupied Kashmir, free Naga, free Assam and free Bangladesh flags as a collective in all future games.

 

[Akki malhotra]

You and i. We are on the same side. I hope they get arrested for their antics today - and agree on the illegal Afghans being deported. As for Indians - maybe Pakistanis should grow a pair and hoist free Indian occupied Kashmir, free Naga, free Assam and free Bangladesh flags as a collective in all future games.

Yeah pls do this.

 

[FreakCricket]

Gofundme for free kashmir poster please in next match

 

[Pakistanian]

Is it same as Pakistan doing for 3 decades in Kashmir ?

or what India did in Bangladesh (East Pakistan) prior to that.

 

[Pakistanian]

This seems calculated and planned far ahead timof e by the Afghans/Indians in England, there must be some kind of interest group funding all of this.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Vijay Mallaya loves planes and he is currently in UK.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

Very rich coming from an Indian.

Why would we have any issue with anti India slogans???
Do Indians have any issue with anti pak slogans?? )

It's a two way lane mate

Pakistan should have walked off the pitch and refused to play ball

 

[90MPH]

Cheap propaganda.

It didn’t work.

 

[Tommo]

This seems calculated and planned far ahead timof e by the Afghans/Indians in England, there must be some kind of interest group funding all of this.

+1

It's been happening in (pretty much) every Pakistan game. I don't see the police, ICC or the Government do a damn thing. The plane above the stadium today with a banner espousing extremist views in broad daylight was a real shocker. What on earth are Pakistanis doing about this???? No other community in the UK would have allowed all of this- so effing irked by this.

 

[PakLFC]

Pak just needs to invite more Khalistani Sikh's to Indian matches.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

+1

It's been happening in (pretty much) every Pakistan game. I don't see the police, ICC or the Government do a damn thing. The plane above the stadium today with a banner espousing extremist views in broad daylight was a real shocker. What on earth are Pakistanis doing about this???? No other community in the UK would have allowed all of this- so effing irked by this.

What do you expect people to do? Fly up like superman and down the plane?

Planes with messages even fly above major football stadiums and nothing can be done about it. If an institution as rich and power as say Manchester United cannot stop such planes what hope does anyone else have?

 

[KingKhanWC]

+1

It's been happening in (pretty much) every Pakistan game. I don't see the police, ICC or the Government do a damn thing. The plane above the stadium today with a banner espousing extremist views in broad daylight was a real shocker. What on earth are Pakistanis doing about this???? No other community in the UK would have allowed all of this- so effing irked by this.

Cricket is usually not a sport where you see violence. I have never seen a single punch thrown in the last 20 years going to matches since a schoolboy. I do believe the police will be reviewing the CCTV right now and will make arrests in due course. You are likely to find yourself doing time if caught fighting in a sports stadium in England.

Having said this everyone has a right to self defence. If this match was played in Birmingham, such incidents would have caused a mass brawl with Pakistani fans really hurting the Afghans who were the minority. When Afghans first arrived in Bham, they were causing a lot of trouble and there has been plenty of violence but now things have calmed down as they realise Pakistanis are far more and it's best to be friends with them instead of fighting them.

As for the banner, if it stated free Palestine over an Israeli sporting match, it would make headline news with the PM commenting etc.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Honestly could care less about the plane or the banner, so someone decided to pull a cheap political stunt. Good luck to them.

What was far more disturbing was the hostility and aggression displayed by Afghan 'supporters' who seemed hell bent on picking a fight with Pakistan fans. I have a hard time believing the two weren't linked.

 

[the Great Khan]

Honestly could care less about the plane or the banner, so someone decided to pull a cheap political stunt. Good luck to them.

What was far more disturbing was the hostility and aggression displayed by Afghan 'supporters' who seemed hell bent on picking a fight with Pakistan fans. I have a hard time believing the two weren't linked.

it was deliberately stoked up to cause harm to community relations..I wonder who benefits from this??

 

[Gilly]

Cricket is usually not a sport where you see violence. I have never seen a single punch thrown in the last 20 years going to matches since a schoolboy. I do believe the police will be reviewing the CCTV right now and will make arrests in due course. You are likely to find yourself doing time if caught fighting in a sports stadium in England.

Having said this everyone has a right to self defence. If this match was played in Birmingham, such incidents would have caused a mass brawl with Pakistani fans really hurting the Afghans who were the minority. When Afghans first arrived in Bham, they were causing a lot of trouble and there has been plenty of violence but now things have calmed down as they realise Pakistanis are far more and it's best to be friends with them instead of fighting them.

As for the banner, if it stated free Palestine over an Israeli sporting match, it would make headline news with the PM commenting etc.

If the Pakistan supporters cant control themselves and descend into crowd violence then the ICC should never schedule matches there.

 

[KingKhanWC]

If the Pakistan supporters cant control themselves and descend into crowd violence then the ICC should never schedule matches there.

Self defence. You are allowed to defend yourself or others if they are subjected to violence, this is the law.

 

[Gilly]

Self defence. You are allowed to defend yourself or others if they are subjected to violence, this is the law.

Lucky that you are superior to the Afghans then.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Lucky that you are superior to the Afghans then.

What has self defence got to do with superiority?

 

[Zhasan]

Is it same as Pakistan doing for 3 decades in Kashmir ?

Well India is far ahead on this score, whereby it aided, abetted and supported terrorism in E. Pakistan some 6 decades ago. Then it switched to supporting the most prolific and effective terrorist organization in all of South Asia (MQM) some three and half decades ago. And more recently supported TTP and BLA terrorist organization.

 

[Syed1]

I request all Pakistanis to take "Free Kashmir" posters in the next match.

 

[Captain caveman]

They encouraged anti-PMLN and pro-PTI slogans and flags in cricket matches. It started in UAE but the disease also spread to Pakistan for PSL and England for the Champions Trophy.

You probably weren't born then kid, but have a look at the MQM banners in the 1992 world cup final!
I guess you think imran khan instigated that as well!!!

 

[pillionrider]

It will soon be known who paid for this plane. Im guessing Indians are behind this, Afghans wouldn't bother.

Indians still upset after the hiding they took in the short confilct earlier this year.

Do you work for the Intelligence

I request all Pakistanis to take "Free Kashmir" posters in the next match.

Just hold up one in your living room while watching the game. You'd have done your bit

Pak just needs to invite more Khalistani Sikh's to Indian matches.

Good idea. Will make them feel useful since those old-timers are jobless expats with nothing to do.

 

[asfandyar]

+1

It's been happening in (pretty much) every Pakistan game. I don't see the police, ICC or the Government do a damn thing. The plane above the stadium today with a banner espousing extremist views in broad daylight was a real shocker. What on earth are Pakistanis doing about this???? No other community in the UK would have allowed all of this- so effing irked by this.

It happens because we are worth nothing in the international market.

Why don't SENA countries tour Pakistan for cricket despite improving conditions? Because we are a mid-level cricket playing nation. Win a World Cup, improve ranking to first/second and you will see these countries flocking here like vultures over a carcass.

Similarly, increase GDP per capita to >$10k and you will see the attitudes of these countries change. ATM however, we are dispensable, and India is not.

 

[Roadie]

I didn't see no banners.
It's clearly obvious who is finding all this cheap propaganda.

BTW, people who don't know what's happening in Baluchistan or those Afghans who are now selling out to India, have a look at Kulbushun Yadav.

Those who have very limited understanding of Politics would not get this.

It's absolutely annoying how the propoganda exists.

One of the posters said it right, if it was Pro Palestine and Free Kashmir, it would definitely make it to the media.

BTW, the Pakistanis say much here because they don't have a lobby, we're so kanjoos hence we don't have any political influence. We outnumber the Jewish community in the UK by 5 times yet there lobby is always in control. The reason being that they are united and have one way, whereas we Pakistanis are fickle.

 

[Roadie]

You probably weren't born then kid, but have a look at the MQM banners in the 1992 world cup final!
I guess you think imran khan instigated that as well!!!

It happens because we are worth nothing in the international market.

Why don't SENA countries tour Pakistan for cricket despite improving conditions? Because we are a mid-level cricket playing nation. Win a World Cup, improve ranking to first/second and you will see these countries flocking here like vultures over a carcass.

Similarly, increase GDP per capita to >$10k and you will see the attitudes of these countries change. ATM however, we are dispensable, and India is not.

The latter would definitely help. At the moment our economy is in a shambles.

 

[shabbu1]

Hmmm, I have also seen a similar message on an advertising board in London, leading onto the M4 reading “End enforced disappearances in Pakistan”.

These have been funded by the “World Baloch foundation”. Wonder who they’re sponsored by

 

[ahsan17]

We all know which country is funding this, but they've been doing so for many years and their entire campaign has been very ineffective. It probably gets a kick out of Pakistanis, but besides that it's meaningless.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Hmmm, I have also seen a similar message on an advertising board in London, leading onto the M4 reading “End enforced disappearances in Pakistan”.

These have been funded by the “World Baloch foundation”. Wonder who they’re sponsored by

*cough* hindustan *cough*

 

[Salma_T]

Has anyone taken responsibility for the banners? (Sounds like something you would say re a terror attack)

 

[PakLFC]

Do you work for the Intelligence


Just hold up one in your living room while watching the game. You'd have done your bit


Good idea. Will make them feel useful since those old-timers are jobless expats with nothing to do.

The Kashmiris are doing a fine job in giving India the run around in IoK! From what I am seeing there are many professional well paid pro Khalistani Sikh's in the UK as well. The movement has changed with each generation

 

[Markhor]

You have idiots flying banners carrying messages over football grounds during matches too.

I agree with @Cpt_Rishwat that I couldn't care less about the banner as the crowd violence in the vicinity of young children was much more disturbing. The stewarding operation was totally inadequate. I hope West Yorkshire Police make some arrests.

 

[sweep_shot]

ICC should ban these political banners. No need to bring in politics during games.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You have idiots flying banners carrying messages over football grounds during matches too.

I agree with @Cpt_Rishwat that I couldn't care less about the banner as the crowd violence in the vicinity of young children was much more disturbing. The stewarding operation was totally inadequate. I hope West Yorkshire Police make some arrests.

Banners by themselves won't have much impact on your average citizen, most of them won't even be aware what they are about. Doesn't matter who funded them, it is a form of trolling on a political level at worst.

The only issue would be if the violence was linked as part of a co-ordinated campaign, but that seems a bit far fetched. In which case I would be far more concerned about what drove the aggression and hatred rather than who funded the flying of a banner.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

You have idiots flying banners carrying messages over football grounds during matches too.

I agree with @Cpt_Rishwat that I couldn't care less about the banner as the crowd violence in the vicinity of young children was much more disturbing. The stewarding operation was totally inadequate. I hope West Yorkshire Police make some arrests.

I was at Headingley for the odis and the few Pakistani fans that were remaining on the ground were basically escorted out while Liam plunkett was doing his post match interviews
They were at the players pavilion end just waiting for autographed shirts from shaheen shah and later on Adil Rasheed
I found the stewards arrogant and hostile and they were turning mild cheeky autograph hunters into angry young men seething with rage

 

[Halaribo]

Start playing Kashmir by Led Zeppelin instead of Dil Dil Pakistan.

And shout Azad after every line.

 

[Technics 1210]

ICC should ban these political banners. No need to bring in politics during games.

ICC has banned political banners etc, but unfortunately ICC cannot control airspace.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

The more people get annoyed about a meaningless banner in the sky the more likely it will happen again.

People should have just laughed it off and ignored it.

Or counter it at another match with something clever and witty - it doesn’t cost much to carry out such a stunt.

 

[the Great Khan]

The more people get annoyed about a meaningless banner in the sky the more likely it will happen again.

People should have just laughed it off and ignored it.

Or counter it at another match with something clever and witty - it doesn’t cost much to carry out such a stunt.

Its not meaningless when youve fought a war for ten years. I would like to see your reaction or your fans reaction if we flew a banner over India vs England with a few choice words about the 27th of feb.

 

[the Great Khan]

Banners by themselves won't have much impact on your average citizen, most of them won't even be aware what they are about. Doesn't matter who funded them, it is a form of trolling on a political level at worst.

The only issue would be if the violence was linked as part of a co-ordinated campaign, but that seems a bit far fetched. In which case I would be far more concerned about what drove the aggression and hatred rather than who funded the flying of a banner.

its not..the thugs were wearing the red topis of the PTM..i mean they have co-opted those nice topis for this political movement , entirely funded by foreigners to sow discord. Why were afghanis wearing the red topis? why? the PTM were caught outside lords by some Pakistani pashtuns a week or two ago again trying to sow discord..this is a co-ordinated campaign similar to one ran last year by India to highlight balochistan and to try and equate it with kashmir..

 

[AdamM97]

Protesting is a right for everyone regardless of whether or not we like it but politicizing a cricket match shouldn't be allowed. Politicizing a sports match isn't allowed by FIFA or any other sports-related governing body so why should ICC allow this to happen? I hope ICC are investigating this...

I bet there would be tons of outrage had there been political banners about Kashmir in an India-Pakistan match or even a political banner about Catalonia when Spain is playing football.

 

[Obaidd]

Well planned by India.