[PICTURE] Does Jasprit Bumrah's presence have a negative impact on Mohammad Siraj's performance?

[KingKhanWC]

Siraj is way better than Bumrah, its not even close.

It was an incredible bowling effort by this man, throughout the series!

I hope the nutters in India will now see him for his worth.

Indian Cricketer Siraj Faces Hindutva Online Hate After Sharing Umrah Photos

breaking : Mohammed Siraj, a right-arm fast pacer from India, posted a photo of his recent holy trip to Makkah, Saudi Arabia, to conduct Umrah. The Hy

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[aboveandbeyond]

Don't know why Indians hesitate to accept the obvious, Siraj will never reach his full potential unless he will be treated like a backup guy for a so called GOAT....India gave kamboh the new ball with Bumrah in 4th Test instead of Siraj and that tells enough how they treat him. And most importantly he needs workload management too

Agree with this. Every bowler has his ups and downs during games. What i have noticed with indian fans, when Siraj or Shami having a difficult situation, they jump all over them. Traits of hypocrisy if you ask me.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

India in cricket in 2025

With Bumrah - played 3, won 0
Without Bumrah - played 18, lost 0

 

[Technics 1210]

India in cricket in 2025

With Bumrah - played 3, won 0
Without Bumrah - played 18, lost 0

Bumrah is mutton dressed as lamb.

 

[Ab Fan]

Let’s not disrespect Bumrah, we would have seen him unleash his wrath on the English tail just like he has throughout the series.

Bumrah is certainly the GOAT fast bowler once the opposition is 6 down.

Dear @Mamoon bhai,

Always better to know facts before concluding/commenting/ arguing. You must have studied it in Moral Science subject in school.

% of lower order wickets(8-11):-

Wasim - 35%
Waqar - 29.2%
Imran - 28.7%
Bumrah - 29.2%
Rabada - 29.8%
Cummins - 28.8%
Siraj - 28.5%

https://howstat.com//cricket/Statistics/Bowling/BowlingAggregates.asp?Stat=1

Bumrah’s wickets% by batting position:-

Top order - 31%
Middle order - 39%
Lower Order(8-11) - 29%


So, the real king of lower order bashing is none other than Wasim Akram. He is celebrated due to his ODI exploits. He was not a legendary Test bowler ever.

 

[saimayubera]

Dear @Mamoon bhai,

Always better to know facts before concluding/commenting/ arguing. You must have studied it in Moral Science subject in school.

% of lower order wickets(8-11):-

Wasim - 35%
Waqar - 29.2%
Imran - 28.7%
Bumrah - 29.2%
Rabada - 29.8%
Cummins - 28.8%
Siraj - 28.5%

https://howstat.com//cricket/Statistics/Bowling/BowlingAggregates.asp?Stat=1

Bumrah’s wickets% by batting position:-

Top order - 31%
Middle order - 39%
Lower Order(8-11) - 29%


So, the real king of lower order bashing is none other than Wasim Akram. He is celebrated due to his ODI exploits. He was not a legendary Test bowler ever.

His peak rating was 830 lol. Didn't even get close to 900.

Guys like Hazlewood and Kapil Dev who are good, not great have crossed 850.

 

[saimayubera]

India in cricket in 2025

With Bumrah - played 3, won 0
Without Bumrah - played 18, lost 0

Better than Pakistan, who just keep losing, no matter who plays lol.

 

[Ab Fan]

His peak rating was 830 lol. Didn't even get close to 900.

Guys like Hazlewood and Kapil Dev who are good, not great have crossed 850.

Curtly Ambrose was a far better bowler than Wasim Akram from his era. Shame he isn’t talked as much as McGrath and Wasim. His lower order wickets% is 27. A true GOAT of his era.

 

[saimayubera]

Curtly Ambrose was a far better bowler than Wasim Akram from his era. Shame he isn’t talked as much as McGrath and Wasim. His lower order wickets% is 27. A true GOAT of his era.

No one talks about Wasim as an elite test pacer outside Pakistan.

Ambrose and McGrath are the top tier of the 90s. Then maybe Donald. Then Wasim, Waqar, Walsh, Pollock etc.

Ambrose even won WI a series in Aus winning an impossible match. Wasim in his career never had an away series win vs another top team.

 

[Golu-momin]

No one talks about Wasim as an elite test pacer outside Pakistan.

Ambrose and McGrath are the top tier of the 90s. Then maybe Donald. Then Wasim, Waqar, Walsh, Pollock etc.

Ambrose even won WI a series in Aus winning an impossible match. Wasim in his career never had an away series win vs another top team.

Wasim was odi goat not an elite test pacer. His deserved place is 2nd tier in test agree

 

[Golu-momin]

Siraj is way better than Bumrah, its not even close.

It was an incredible bowling effort by this man, throughout the series!

I hope the nutters in India will now see him for his worth.

Indian Cricketer Siraj Faces Hindutva Online Hate After Sharing Umrah Photos

breaking : Mohammed Siraj, a right-arm fast pacer from India, posted a photo of his recent holy trip to Makkah, Saudi Arabia, to conduct Umrah. The Hy

www.indiaherald.com

Bumrah is along with malcom marshall and mcgrath goat among goats . Bumrah alone >>>>>Wasim+imran+other garbage Pakistani bowlers. No matter how much cry Bumrah haters makes but all west world and other top cricketers rated him one of best ever

Though siraj >All pakistani bowlers in test cricket except maybe wasim and imran.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Bumrah is along with malcom marshall and mcgrath goat among goats . Bumrah alone >>>>>Wasim+imran+other garbage Pakistani bowlers. No matter how much cry Bumrah haters makes but all west world and other top cricketers rated him one of best ever

Though siraj >All pakistani bowlers in test cricket except maybe wasim and imran.

THey are using Siraj to run Bumrah down indirectly trying to convey Pakistan bowlers are better than Bumrah lol

 

[BouncerGuy]

LOL... another game without bumrah where India won.. This is crazy... Bumrah should just rest and make some more excuse of workload mangeent so India can play freely and win games.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Bumrah is the GOAT. But on a lighter note

@Rana @RedwoodOriginal @shaz619 @BouncerGuy @mominsaigol @Devadwal @RexRex @deltexas @MP2011 @Rajdeep @Romali_rotti @Nikhil_cric

https://twitter.com/x/status/1952333502227320976

 

[jnaveen1980]

LOL... another game without bumrah where India won.. This is crazy... Bumrah should just rest and make some more excuse of workload mangeent so India can play freely and win games.

Most of the matches that BUmrah performed and INdia lost were due to pathetic batting of some superstar batters. This narrative is pushed mainly by the fan club of one superstar that just retired to deflect attention away from him.

 

[Ab Fan]

No one talks about Wasim as an elite test pacer outside Pakistan.

Ambrose and McGrath are the top tier of the 90s. Then maybe Donald. Then Wasim, Waqar, Walsh, Pollock etc.

Ambrose even won WI a series in Aus winning an impossible match. Wasim in his career never had an away series win vs another top team.

Wasim has incredible peer reputation. Everyone from 90s and 00s have rated him highly.

 

[saimayubera]

Wasim has incredible peer reputation. Everyone from 90s and 00s have rated him highly.

White ball yes and was super skillful. Doesn't mean the best.

Williamson has the best technique of the fab 4 but is not the best test batsman of his era.

 

[MP2011]

Naah Bumrah won series too. 2018 Aus and 2020 was great in MCG. Even 2021-22 2-2 drawn Eng series he was Indian MoS and bowled well in both the victories. 2024 SA he took 5fer in the CT test in 2nd innings.

Both are good.

Don't let facts get in the way of a good story.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Better than Pakistan, who just keep losing, no matter who plays lol.

Triggered much?

 

[MP2011]

LOL... another game without bumrah where India won.. This is crazy... Bumrah should just rest and make some more excuse of workload mangeent so India can play freely and win games.

See it other way.

Opposition can't even defeat Bumrah less India.

 

[MP2011]

Most of the matches that BUmrah performed and INdia lost were due to pathetic batting of some superstar batters. This narrative is pushed mainly by the fan club of one superstar that just retired to deflect attention away from him.

Had it not been Kohli & Rohit playing well past their sell by dates for years, we'd have won lot more tests than we eventually did.

 

[saimayubera]

Triggered much?

You are the fans of the loser team

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

You are the fans of the loser team

I didn't even say anything, just shared an interesting stat.

But I guess doofuses who think Bumrah is better than Wasim have a thin skin too

 

[saimayubera]

I didn't even say anything, just shared an interesting stat.

But I guess doofuses who think Bumrah is better than Wasim have a thin skin too

He is.

 

[kron]

Most of the matches that BUmrah performed and INdia lost were due to pathetic batting of some superstar batters. This narrative is pushed mainly by the fan club of one superstar that just retired to deflect attention away from him.

We are making a mistake

Let siraj open the spell with slashed and Prasidh

Bring bumrah on first change just like Cummins does

Watch batsmen try to attack him and get out

Works well for the team and we will be more brutal

Anyhow bumrah is not good with a brand new ball. He needs a semi old ball or a much older ball to be destructive. Semi old to get lat swing and seam

Old ball to get reverse.

Opening the bowling is actually his only weakness barring his injury prone action

 

[jnaveen1980]

We are making a mistake

Let siraj open the spell with slashed and Prasidh

Bring bumrah on first change just like Cummins does

Watch batsmen try to attack him and get out

Works well for the team and we will be more brutal

Anyhow bumrah is not good with a brand new ball. He needs a semi old ball or a much older ball to be destructive. Semi old to get lat swing and seam

Old ball to get reverse.

Opening the bowling is actually his only weakness barring his injury prone action

yes. This illogical connection is a road to nowhere lol When Ishant, Shami, Bumrah played together nobody's performance dropped. They complemented each other. Yes Bumrah is definitely one of the best with old ball. In home Test Bumrah's bowling average between 31 and 80 overs is an insane 12.23

 

[TheSultan]

Jasprit who? Siraj has surpassed him already.

Led the attack to victory vs Australia in Australia in his debut series.

Been great vs England in England.

No crying, no drama, no “too much vorkload”

 

[saimayubera]

Jasprit who? Siraj has surpassed him already.

Led the attack to victory vs Australia in Australia in his debut series.

Been great vs England in England.

No crying, no drama, no “too much vorkload”

Bumrah also led the attack to victory vs Australia in Australia in his first series there. And was also vital in the MCG 2020 test.

And was also great vs England in England in all 3 of his series there (was MoS last time with pivotal roles in both wins in London).

And at the end of the day, both are INDIAN players.

 

[TheSultan]

Bumrah also led the attack to victory vs Australia in Australia in his first series there. And was also vital in the MCG 2020 test.

And was also great vs England in England in all 3 of his series there (was MoS last time with pivotal roles in both wins in London).

And at the end of the day, both are INDIAN players.

Bumrah’s series victory vs Australia has an Asterisk - no Smith / Warner.

Massive difference.

Both are Indian - duh we know. So you should be happy people are praising Siraj. If it was any other bowler (you know what I mean), you wouldn’t have jumped at trying to praise Bumrah.

Why can’t you just give Siraj the spotlight? Be honest

 

[kron]

Bumrah also led the attack to victory vs Australia in Australia in his first series there. And was also vital in the MCG 2020 test.

And was also great vs England in England in all 3 of his series there (was MoS last time with pivotal roles in both wins in London).

And at the end of the day, both are INDIAN players.

And bumrah destroyed England in docile flat tracks in India too in 2023 season when siraj went for tons do runs

 

[saimayubera]

Bumrah’s series victory vs Australia has an Asterisk - no Smith / Warner.

Massive difference.

Both are Indian - duh we know. So you should be happy people are praising Siraj. If it was any other bowler (you know what I mean), you wouldn’t have jumped at trying to praise Bumrah.

Why can’t you just give Siraj the spotlight? Be honest

Yeah, except for the fact that Bumrah was part of the second series victory too, playing a major part in the MCG victory.

I am fine with giving Siraj the spotlight. You are the one trying to denigrate Bumrah by using Siraj.

And it is you who is trying to make it a Hindu-Muslim thing.

Funny thing is Bumrah isn't even Hindu. He is Sikh, an even smaller minority.

Maybe insecurity on the part that India now has better Muslim pacers than Pak too?

 

[Devadwal]

Siraj is way better than Bumrah, its not even close.

It was an incredible bowling effort by this man, throughout the series!

I hope the nutters in India will now see him for his worth.

Indian Cricketer Siraj Faces Hindutva Online Hate After Sharing Umrah Photos

breaking : Mohammed Siraj, a right-arm fast pacer from India, posted a photo of his recent holy trip to Makkah, Saudi Arabia, to conduct Umrah. The Hy

www.indiaherald.com

Siraj is better than any Pakistani bowlers currently.

Pakistan first produce a decent pacer who can take 200 test wickets . It's been so long since any Pakistani Pacers debut who will take 200 test wickets . Last Pacers was bottle caps bowler Waqar Younis in 1989.

Stop producing trundlers brigades

 

[MP2011]

Yeah, except for the fact that Bumrah was part of the second series victory too, playing a major part in the MCG victory.

I am fine with giving Siraj the spotlight. You are the one trying to denigrate Bumrah by using Siraj.

And it is you who is trying to make it a Hindu-Muslim thing.

Funny thing is Bumrah isn't even Hindu. He is Sikh, an even smaller minority.

Maybe insecurity on the part that India now has better Muslim pacers than Pak too?

I think its futile making effort to put it across trolls.

You can wake up a man sleeping but you can't wake up a man pretending to sleep.

 

[Hitman]

Jasprit who? Siraj has surpassed him already.

Led the attack to victory vs Australia in Australia in his debut series.

Been great vs England in England.

No crying, no drama, no “too much vorkload”

Pretty rich coming from a fan of Shoaib Actor.

 

[nish_mate]

Does any current Pakistani phaast bowler have a positive impact on their fellow phasst bowlers performance.... and bowling at 92pmh and spraying it aint called performance outside Pakistan and bangladesh......

 

[TheSultan]

Yeah, except for the fact that Bumrah was part of the second series victory too, playing a major part in the MCG victory.

I am fine with giving Siraj the spotlight. You are the one trying to denigrate Bumrah by using Siraj.

And it is you who is trying to make it a Hindu-Muslim thing.

Funny thing is Bumrah isn't even Hindu. He is Sikh, an even smaller minority.

Maybe insecurity on the part that India now has better Muslim pacers than Pak too?

Hold on - he didn’t get any 5-fers in the MCG game. Bumrah took 6 wickets in that match and Siraj 5. Bumrah wouldn’t win that match without Siraj, but Siraj won the final test without Bumrah.

He won here at the Oval without Bumrah too. Levels.

I never even mentioned Hindu vs Muslim

 

[Mamoon]

Dear @Mamoon bhai,

Always better to know facts before concluding/commenting/ arguing. You must have studied it in Moral Science subject in school.

% of lower order wickets(8-11):-

Wasim - 35%
Waqar - 29.2%
Imran - 28.7%
Bumrah - 29.2%
Rabada - 29.8%
Cummins - 28.8%
Siraj - 28.5%

https://howstat.com//cricket/Statistics/Bowling/BowlingAggregates.asp?Stat=1

Bumrah’s wickets% by batting position:-

Top order - 31%
Middle order - 39%
Lower Order(8-11) - 29%


So, the real king of lower order bashing is none other than Wasim Akram. He is celebrated due to his ODI exploits. He was not a legendary Test bowler ever.

A song of ice and fire.

 

[Mamoon]

I think Indian fans need to understand that we Pakistanis love Bumrah. In fact, we don’t just love him. We are also indebted to him.

After all, he has won more trophies for Pakistan than Waqar and Shoaib, and as many as Wasim and Imran. He has also won more ODI trophies for Pakistan than he has for India.

We will never forget the most beautiful no-ball in history that triggered the biggest a** whooping in history of ICC ODI finals, a record that might stand the test of time because having such huge disparity between two teams in an ODI final.

Therefore, we will always be grateful to him. While we might still have spanked India in that final, but without Bumrah, we wouldn’t have been able to drop a nuclear bomb on them.

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[nish_mate]

Poor Pakistanis forever doomed to live in the memories of past glories, with an utterly rubbish present team- all they can do is post bombastic posts about guzre zamaane whilst getting chittar'd in present times...

Kher Allah inhe akaal de, Hosla aur Himmat aisi nikaami team ko support karne ke lye

 

[saimayubera]

I think Indian fans need to understand that we Pakistanis love Bumrah. In fact, we don’t just love him. We are also indebted to him.

After all, he has won more trophies for Pakistan than Waqar and Shoaib, and as many as Wasim and Imran. He has also won more ODI trophies for Pakistan than he has for India.

We will never forget the most beautiful no-ball in history that triggered the biggest a** whooping in history of ICC ODI finals, a record that might stand the test of time because having such huge disparity between two teams in an ODI final.

Therefore, we will always be grateful to him. While we might still have spanked India in that final, but without Bumrah, we wouldn’t have been able to drop a nuclear bomb on them.

Images that precede unfortunate events:
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Imagine flexing on something that happened eight years ago when the same tournament happened this year hosted by Pakistan itself. First tournament that happened in Pakistan in 30+ years.

Remember, India kicked Pakistan out of the tournament and then kicked the tournament out of Pakistan.

Only place Pakistan remained at the end was the podium beneath the Indian player's feet.

 

[saimayubera]

A song of ice and fire.
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Bumrah will prolly end with as much as Wasim + Imran + Waqar COMBINED lol.

Siraj will be no 2.

 

[Mamoon]

Imagine flexing on something that happened eight years ago when the same tournament happened this year hosted by Pakistan itself. First tournament that happened in Pakistan in 30+ years.

Remember, India kicked Pakistan out of the tournament and then kicked the tournament out of Pakistan.

Only place Pakistan remained at the end was the podium beneath the Indian player's feet.

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0 IQ moment spotted.

Let me educate you, although I think you are beyond being educated.

The real humiliation was PCB forcing BCCI to move the entire Asia Cup to UAE, including matches between other teams.

In the CT, BCCI failed to do the same. They only played their own matches in UAE, while other teams played their own matches in Pakistan.

BCCI’s narrative that Pakistan is not safe to play cricket in was not accepted by other cricket boards. For example, Australia and England couldn’t care less about BCCI sentiment when they played a thriller in Lahore and both teams got crazy support by the fans.

Even the players from both sides acknowledged that the atmosphere was electric and it’s not something that you usually experience in a neutral match.

BCCI was hoping that their refusal to play in Pakistan would discourage other teams from playing in Pakistan and the whole CT will move out of Pakistan which did not happen.

However, that is what PCB achieved with the Asia Cup. India will not play a single match in India now, whereas they could have forced PCB to play Pakistan matches in UAE.

 

[saimayubera]

0 IQ moment spotted.

Let me educate you, although I think you are beyond being educated.

The real humiliation was PCB forcing BCCI to move the entire Asia Cup to UAE, including matches between other teams.

In the CT, BCCI failed to do the same. They only played their own matches in UAE, while other teams played their own matches in Pakistan.

BCCI’s narrative that Pakistan is not safe to play cricket in was not accepted by other cricket boards. For example, Australia and England couldn’t care less about BCCI sentiment when they played a thriller in Lahore and both teams got crazy support by the fans.

Even the players from both sides acknowledged that the atmosphere was electric and it’s not something that you usually experience in a neutral match.

BCCI was hoping that their refusal to play in Pakistan would discourage other teams from playing in Pakistan and the whole CT will move out of Pakistan which did not happen.

However, that is what PCB achieved with the Asia Cup. India will not play a single match in India now, whereas they could have forced PCB to play Pakistan matches in UAE.

Let me educate you.

India doesn't care about AC.

They moved the entire thing back in 2018 too. They don't care about hosting this and last hosted it in the early 90s.

India allow other countries to host the AC and in return get their loyalty in the form of votes etc.

Now an ICC trophy, that is a different matter.

In the CT, India made Pakistan fly to and fro like they did in the 23 AC and won both while defeating Pakistan heavily in both.

This AC, like 18 AC India will do no such thing and will stay put in Dubai and like 18 AC will prolly win it, defeating Paksitan heavily once or twice (depending on whether UAE defeat Pakistan like USA did in the 24 WC and there is a good chance of that happening).

Let Pakistan try to move 26, 29 or 31 ICC trophies lol.

Pakistan doesn't have to worry about any ICC trophies of theirs being moved cause considering the CT fiasco, they are not getting anything ever.

 

[Mamoon]

Let me educate you.

India doesn't care about AC.

They moved the entire thing back in 2018 too. They don't care about hosting this and last hosted it in the early 90s.

India allow other countries to host the AC and in return get their loyalty in the form of votes etc.

Now an ICC trophy, that is a different matter.

In the CT, India made Pakistan fly to and fro like they did in the 23 AC and won both while defeating Pakistan heavily in both.

This AC, like 18 AC India will do no such thing and will stay put in Dubai and like 18 AC will prolly win it, defeating Paksitan heavily once or twice (depending on whether UAE defeat Pakistan like USA did in the 24 WC and there is a good chance of that happening).

Let Pakistan try to move 26, 29 or 31 ICC trophies lol.

Pakistan doesn't have to worry about any ICC trophies of theirs being moved cause considering the CT fiasco, they are not getting anything ever.

I repeat: you were all set to host the Asia CUP IN India before Pakistan FORCED you to move the ENTIRE tournament to UAE. What an L for India. If you want to change the narrative to sleep better at night, go for it. No problem.

 

[TheSultan]

Pretty rich coming from a fan of Shoaib Actor.

Shoaib was a proper speedster, not baby late 130s, odd 140+ pace.

People only now are finding out that those type of bowlers require management.

Don’t compare a rickshaw with a Ferrari

 

[Hitman]

Shoaib was a proper speedster, not baby late 130s, odd 140+ pace.

People only now are finding out that those type of bowlers require management.

Don’t compare a rickshaw with a Ferrari

Yea, a Ferrari with a grand total of 177 Test wickets. A nandrolone injecting ferrari.

P.S. In Monsee's words, a broken ferrari.

 

[Hitman]

Shoaib was a proper speedster, not baby late 130s, odd 140+ pace.

People only now are finding out that those type of bowlers require management.

Don’t compare a rickshaw with a Ferrari

Did I forget to mention his ferrari like performances against the top 2 batting line ups of his time, Australia and India?

vs Australia - 35.64 (ave); SR - 56.4

vs India - 34.50 (ave); SR - 61.9


Link: https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/42655.html?class=1;template=results;type=bowling

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[jnaveen1980]

Indian bowler A is so much better than world no.1 ranked Indian bowler B. Thanks for the "big heart" lol

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Lol never knew this was Bumrah vs Pak bowlers comparison thread...Bumrah fans are so defensive

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

At their peaks, Wasim Akram or Imran coming in to bowl back then, as Bumrah today - these were/ are sights to see, things of great power, menace and beauty.

Wasim is a GOAT and so is Imran. But then Bumrah has the numbers too. And they also all fail on one measure or the other.

I don’t mortgage my existence or ego as a fan to ‘proving’ the worthlessness of an oppo player.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Lol never knew this was Bumrah vs Pak bowlers comparison thread...Bumrah fans are so defensive

Not sure Bumrah has as many fans as Indian batsmen have. He has far less than what batsmen have. But in order ot bring down Bumrah using Siraj is comical. Bumrah is sort of a mentor for Siraj. That is why people view this correlation nonsense. How Mo Shami's average is better when he bowls with Bumrah. Why is Ishan't bowling average is 7 points lower when he bowled with Bumrah since Bumrah's debut? ONly Siraj has this weird stat. Others performed well even with Bumrah.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Not sure Bumrah has as many fans as Indian batsmen have. He has far less than what batsmen have. But in order ot bring down Bumrah using Siraj is comical. Bumrah is sort of a mentor for Siraj. That is why people view this correlation nonsense. How Mo Shami's average is better when he bowls with Bumrah. Why is Ishan't bowling average is 7 points lower when he bowled with Bumrah since Bumrah's debut? ONly Siraj has this weird stat. Others performed well even with Bumrah.

You can't deny the fact with your emotional pieces mate, Siraj is also a human who must be given the opportunity to open the bowling, take rest at will and also the liberty to choose his bowling spell timings.

Shed your bias and he would be a world beater

 

[TheSultan]

Did I forget to mention his ferrari like performances against the top 2 batting line ups of his time, Australia and India?

vs Australia - 35.64 (ave); SR - 56.4

vs India - 34.50 (ave); SR - 61.9


Link: https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/42655.html?class=1;template=results;type=bowling

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He still doesn’t get it, poor guy.

This is like complaining about not getting enough groceries in your Ferrari

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

He still doesn’t get it, poor guy.

This is like complaining about not getting enough groceries in your Ferrari

So basically according to you he was a show off, nothing else?

 

[jnaveen1980]

You can't deny the fact with your emotional pieces mate, Siraj is also a human who must be given the opportunity to open the bowling, take rest at will and also the liberty to choose his bowling spell timings.

Shed your bias and he would be a world beater

It is not emotional. It is logical. He is just getting the wickets of Bumrah. That's it. How come other bowlers did well with Bumrah. In India against England on Akas Deep debut innings he outbowled Bumrah taking 3 top order wickets. He was not given any special treatment. Sometimes opponent tries to be extra careful against your primary weapon and attack others.

 

[nish_mate]

Poor Pakistanis so insecure about fast bowlers, one Bumrah and it's shaken them to the core, trying their best to discredit him.

So much for having a legacy...kher carry on penning nonsensical threads

 

[The Bald Eagle]

It is not emotional. It is logical. He is just getting the wickets of Bumrah. That's it. How come other bowlers did well with Bumrah. In India against England on Akas Deep debut innings he outbowled Bumrah taking 3 top order wickets. He was not given any special treatment. Sometimes opponent tries to be extra careful against your primary weapon and attack others.

This is true at times but have you forgotten the long standing injustice with Siraj. A glaring case in point is WC 2023 final, all of a sudden from opening pair bowler, Siraj was asked to bowl in the middle and he failed big time. Why your side didn't stick to the erstwhile recipe of success in that tournament?

Bottomline Siraj has no say like Bumrah in team and he is treated like a YES man

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Poor Pakistanis so insecure about fast bowlers, one Bumrah and it's shaken them to the core, trying their best to discredit him.

So much for having a legacy...kher carry on penning nonsensical threads

Lol so saltiness, won't you name those long list of threads

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Did I forget to mention his ferrari like performances against the top 2 batting line ups of his time, Australia and India?

vs Australia - 35.64 (ave); SR - 56.4

vs India - 34.50 (ave); SR - 61.9


Link: https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/42655.html?class=1;template=results;type=bowling

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Akhtar faced an ATG Aus team and strong Indian batting on phattas. He is a far bigger match winner than Bhumrah...2 fivers and 2 losses in England LOL @Devadwal

 

[nish_mate]

Lol so saltiness, won't you name those long list of threads

Your saltiness is there for all to see..... Such an insecure bunch

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Your saltiness is there for all to see..... Such an insecure bunch

Before chickening out, won't you name those threads

 

[jnaveen1980]

This is true at times but have you forgotten the long standing injustice with Siraj. A glaring case in point is WC 2023 final, all of a sudden from opening pair bowler, Siraj was asked to bowl in the middle and he failed big time. Why your side didn't stick to the erstwhile recipe of success in that tournament?

Bottomline Siraj has no say like Bumrah in team and he is treated like a YES man

That is nothing to do with Bumrah. Everything to do with Sham who was in fiery form. He had just taken 7 wickets in semi final. India wanted to use him early before Australia gets off. Besides Bumrah very first ball created a chance. Kohli dropped the catch.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Poor Pakistanis so insecure about fast bowlers, one Bumrah and it's shaken them to the core, trying their best to discredit him.

So much for having a legacy...kher carry on penning nonsensical threads

what has your Bhumrah win? Cannot win even one test series and India lost everything he played LOL

 

[nish_mate]

Before chickening out, won't you name those threads

You don't know which threads you open? Go through the list of India threads YOU open and your answer will there... surely you are old enough not to be spoon fed?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

You don't know which threads you open? Go through the list of India threads YOU open and your answer will there... surely you are old enough not to be spoon fed?

Lol I feel for you, poor fellow
Some threads so far that thankfully predicted the future well
1.Spoiler thread BGT
2. Spoiler threat ATT (brainchild)
3. House of Cards
4. This very thread
5. Eng ny Bumrah pr he attack kr dya
6. India bunny of Aus in finals
And all went wrong right

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Let me educate you.

India doesn't care about AC.

They moved the entire thing back in 2018 too. They don't care about hosting this and last hosted it in the early 90s.

India allow other countries to host the AC and in return get their loyalty in the form of votes etc.

Now an ICC trophy, that is a different matter.

In the CT, India made Pakistan fly to and fro like they did in the 23 AC and won both while defeating Pakistan heavily in both.

This AC, like 18 AC India will do no such thing and will stay put in Dubai and like 18 AC will prolly win it, defeating Paksitan heavily once or twice (depending on whether UAE defeat Pakistan like USA did in the 24 WC and there is a good chance of that happening).

Let Pakistan try to move 26, 29 or 31 ICC trophies lol.

Pakistan doesn't have to worry about any ICC trophies of theirs being moved cause considering the CT fiasco, they are not getting anything ever.

We usually spank you in Asia Cup so now your narrative is India doesnt care LOL!

 

[nish_mate]

Lol I feel for you, poor fellow
Some threads so far that thankfully predicted the future well
1.Spoiler thread BGT
2. Spoiler threat ATT (brainchild)
3. House of Cards
4. This very thread
5. Eng ny Bumrah pr he attack kr dya
6. India bunny of Aus in finals
And all went wrong right

Feel as much as you want mate,your bias and selective mess and trolls on India are well known....kher didn't know you were that insecure ....

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Lol I feel for you, poor fellow
Some threads so far that thankfully predicted the future well
1.Spoiler thread BGT
2. Spoiler threat ATT (brainchild)
3. House of Cards
4. This very thread
5. Eng ny Bumrah pr he attack kr dya
6. India bunny of Aus in finals
And all went wrong right

Nish is doing some nish after his team won 3 out of last 15 tests LOL

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Feel as much as you want mate,your bias and selective mess and trolls on India are well known....kher didn't know you were that insecure ....

Lol Insecure are those who are trying hard to drum beat a drawn series as series triumph even after escaping by 6 runs against 10 men

 

[nish_mate]

Lol Insecure are those who are trying hard to drum beat a drawn series as series triumph even after escaping by 6 runs against 10 men

Is that your cope mechanism now mate? Gets funnier and funnier...

 

[TheSultan]

So basically according to you he was a show off, nothing else?

Well he did have something to show off about didn’t he? Quickest bowler ever.

Enforcers don’t require stats. The fact that even then he has pretty decent stats shows his quality.

Shoaib played less matches for the same reason people don’t put miles on Ferraris.

Unfortunately India are stuck with a Ford Focus in Bumrah who is still scared to put miles on the clock.

 

[TheSultan]

What I find really funny here is - India have a victory secured by the superb Mohammed Siraj (beautiful name btw). Now as much as I have my reservations about celebrating draws, it was an achievement for India in England (they have been woeful here for a while). However, with the right to celebrate, instead of celebrating Siraj’s great performance, we get all the Indian fans crying over Bumrah.

Remember equality in a democracy is a good thing.

Now don’t give me any whataboutery, I am challenging Indians to praise Siraj without bringing Bumrah in to it.

 

[jnaveen1980]

What I find really funny here is - India have a victory secured by the superb Mohammed Siraj (beautiful name btw). Now as much as I have my reservations about celebrating draws, it was an achievement for India in England (they have been woeful here for a while). However, with the right to celebrate, instead of celebrating Siraj’s great performance, we get all the Indian fans crying over Bumrah.

Remember equality in a democracy is a good thing.

Now don’t give me any whataboutery, I am challenging Indians to praise Siraj without bringing Bumrah in to it.

Mo Siraj is India's treasure. I don't think pakistan has ever produced anyone close to him in their fast bowling history. We appreciate that.

 

[TheSultan]

Mo Siraj is India's treasure. I don't think pakistan has ever produced anyone close to him in their fast bowling history. We appreciate that.

I mean bold statement - but shabash. You managed it.

Now for the other indians

 

[jnaveen1980]

I mean bold statement - but shabash. You managed it.

Now for the other indians

You are an honest guy. You didn't disagree with my post

 

[TheSultan]

You are an honest guy. You didn't disagree with my post

Nice try but I’m not gonna deny brother Siraj his moment. Comparisons with Pakistani greats can be reserved for another thread

 

[jnaveen1980]

Nice try but I’m not gonna deny brother Siraj his moment. Comparisons with Pakistani greats can be reserved for another thread

No. It is about Siraj. You can have it here. Siraj was bowling at 146k on 5th day of 5th test. A dream of Akram. oh wait. they were never invited to play 5 tests were they? They would be trundling at 130k by 5th test.

 

[TheSultan]

No. It is about Siraj. You can have it here. Siraj was bowling at 146k on 5th day of 5th test. A dream of Akram. oh wait. they were never invited to play 5 tests were they? They would be trundling at 130k by 5th test.

Well they were invited to play 5 tests in 1987 and 1992 and guess what Pakistan won both series with Wasim playing so errmmm learn some history

130k by the last match. Hmm Wasim took a 6fer in the first innings and 3fer in the second innings in 1992 5th Test. And Waqar took a 5fer in the second innings of the 5th test.

Time to edit your ish post

 

[nish_mate]

The thing is here's where Pakistanis will always view everything through lens of religion and the whole Shor Sharaba by Pakistanis is because Siraj's Muslim and Bumrah's Hindu. If both were Hindus or Muslims, neither the OP nor the subsequent Pakistanis would be posting about it.

It all comes down to religion and Islam ke self appointed thekedaars and even funnier Pakistanis preaching about democracy and equality?

However let me indulge one of these- Siraj in this series has been better than Bumrah and we wouldnt have drawn the series without him.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

The thing is here's where Pakistanis will always view everything through lens of religion and the whole Shor Sharaba by Pakistanis is because Siraj's Muslim and Bumrah's Hindu. If both were Hindus or Muslims, neither the OP nor the subsequent Pakistanis would be posting about it.

It all comes down to religion and Islam ke self appointed thekedaars and even funnier Pakistanis preaching about democracy and equality?

However let me indulge one of these- Siraj in this series has been better than Bumrah and we wouldnt have drawn the series without him.

Don't be so blind in hatred mate, Bumrah is a proud sikh