[PICTURE] Does Jasprit Bumrah's presence have a negative impact on Mohammad Siraj's performance?

[Mesozoic]

O wow in finals

Bumrah is a legend, he isn't the star of 2017 only, thanks to Shami for being the scapegoat in 2021.

Well it ain't Bumrah's fault that Pakistan are minnows who can't qualify for ICC finals these days. Anyways he has already landed a knockout punch that threw Pakistan out of a World cup.. you guys have been seething and seething since 2023..

See below if you're confused..

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Well it ain't Bumrah's fault that Pakistan are minnows who can't qualify for ICC finals these days. Anyways he has already landed a knockout punch that threw Pakistan out of a World cup.. you guys have been seething and seething since 2023..

See below if you're confused..

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Hahah...the same way he landed KO to England....

 

[Mesozoic]

Hahah...the same way he landed KO to England....

Lol...jump on England/Australia/Antarctica's shoulders when you are humiliated and have no legs to stand on..

Such a classic move.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Lol...jump on England/Australia/Antarctica's shoulders when you are humiliated and have no legs to stand on..

Such a classic move.

It's so hilarious that you can't even read the thread title before lecturing others. No off topic stuff plz

 

[Mesozoic]

It's so hilarious that you can't even read the thread title before lecturing others. No off topic stuff plz

Lol what off topic? I was just stating the reason why Pakistanis here on pp and in general are so salty about Bumrah in the past few years. You ended up getting triggered and posted about a game that was more than 8 years ago only to get owned once again.

Yes definitely hilarious.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Lol what off topic? I was just stating the reason why Pakistanis here on pp and in general are so salty about Bumrah in the past few years. You ended up getting triggered and posted about a game that was more than 8 years ago only to get owned once again.

Yes definitely hilarious.

Bhumrah is a decent bowler but very overrated. India have done much better without him in tests. It is a fact. See the numbers. He has no ODI ICC trophies either. Choker.

 

[Mesozoic]

Bhumrah is a decent bowler but very overrated. India have done much better without him in tests. It is a fact. See the numbers. He has no ODI ICC trophies either. Choker.

Aah yes from "He has no ICC trophies" to "He has no ODI ICC trophies". All because he almost single handedly won us a T20 WC.

Even if he wins an ODI WC for us, you lot will jump to "he has no WTC" or something like that and call him a choker. Such an insecure bunch..

 

[Hitman]

Aah yes from "He has no ICC trophies" to "He has no ODI ICC trophies". All because he almost single handedly won us a T20 WC.

Even if he wins an ODI WC for us, you lot will jump to "he has no WTC" or something like that and call him a choker. Such an insecure bunch..

The criteria keeps changing for such losers.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Lol what off topic? I was just stating the reason why Pakistanis here on pp and in general are so salty about Bumrah in the past few years. You ended up getting triggered and posted about a game that was more than 8 years ago only to get owned once again.

Yes definitely hilarious.

Lol You ALWAYS get triggered and owned by me and my threads, and hence your presence here. Although this thread is about Siraj's performance in Bumrah's absence. So if you want to write anything on topic then go ahead. Otherwise bump other threads and don't derail it

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Aah yes from "He has no ICC trophies" to "He has no ODI ICC trophies". All because he almost single handedly won us a T20 WC.

Even if he wins an ODI WC for us, you lot will jump to "he has no WTC" or something like that and call him a choker. Such an insecure bunch..

He has only one ICC trophy. Choked in WTC and ODI WC and away test series. Jury is still out on his ability to perform under pressure.

 

[Mesozoic]

Lol You ALWAYS get triggered and owned by me and my threads, and hence your presence here. Although this thread is about Siraj's performance in Bumrah's absence. So if you want to write anything on topic then go ahead. Otherwise bump other threads and don't derail it

Dude you literally posted a picture from 8 years ago as a final straw...

You literally had to ban me from a thread you created after getting triggered by me just because I was owning you left right and centre...

Please save some irony for the rest of us..

 

[Mesozoic]

He has only one ICC trophy. Choked in WTC and ODI WC and away test series. Jury is still out on his ability to perform under pressure.

Yes he has just as many ICC World events as Pakistan have won in the 21st century so far. Sit down..

 

[Technics 1210]

Lets be brutally honest here, the cult have a problem with Siraj, he's a Muslim, oh what a dilemma.

 

[Technics 1210]

He has only one ICC trophy. Choked in WTC and ODI WC and away test series. Jury is still out on his ability to perform under pressure.

Jury still out? He's been found guilty so many times, BCCI have reruns of his flops, CT17 and WC23 humiliations excluded.

Bumrah has had retrials - he remains guilty of a suspect action, and remains guilty of being the most overrated overhyped tail sweeping bowler who doesn't have the sand to play 4 Tests let alone 5, but it don't matter cos every Test he plays, India loses.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Dude you literally posted a picture from 8 years ago as a final straw...

You literally had to ban me from a thread you created after getting triggered by me just because I was owning you left right and centre...

Please save some irony for the rest of us..

Lol keep dreaming....anyways no praise for Siraj yet

 

[Technics 1210]

Lol keep dreaming....anyways no praise for Siraj yet

The cult will never praise Siraj, even though once again, a Muslim puts India on the cricketing map.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Jury still out? He's been found guilty so many times, BCCI have reruns of his flops, CT17 and WC23 humiliations excluded.

Bumrah has had retrials - he remains guilty of a suspect action, and remains guilty of being the most overrated overhyped tail sweeping bowler who doesn't have the sand to play 4 Tests let alone 5, but it don't matter cos every Test he plays, India loses.

I wanted to be nice to the cult. For me he is the biggest high profile choker today. Fans of choker teams love him like India and SA @Devadwal @saimayubera @Buffet

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Yes he has just as many ICC World events as Pakistan have won in the 21st century so far. Sit down..

Wrong again. Pakistan won CT 2017 and T20 WC 2009. Bhumrah has one T20 WC and nothing else to show for. When he wins a CT or WC or WTC we can talk.

 

[BouncerGuy]

The recent test series against England has shown that Bumrah was an extra burden playing with injury. He was a burden and India lost games in his presence.

Siraj had more impact then him.

 

[Mesozoic]

Wrong again. Pakistan won CT 2017 and T20 WC 2009. Bhumrah has one T20 WC and nothing else to show for. When he wins a CT or WC or WTC we can talk.

Im talking about World events. No one cares about the CT. Indian fans would know because we won 2 of the last 3 editions.

 

[Mesozoic]

I think I understand the pain and frustration of a few here.

When India lost that close match at Lords, and then proceeded to be 1/2 in the third innings at Old Trafford, everyone and their abbu here would have started distributing mithais for an inevitable 4-1 series defeat for India but that couldn't transpire as India held onto a draw against all odds.

And then when Root and Brook were batting in the last innings at the Oval, once again mithais were distributed to prematurely celebrate an Indian series defeat but that too ended up in a heartbreak and tears and India ended up drawing the series.

Now that there's no more hope , the last resort and coping mechanisms are -

"England are treating this as Ashes net practice "

"England were playing with C team and 10 men "

"But but Bumrah did not win you games it was muh musalmaan siraj "


Second hand embarassment and outright cringe lol..

 

[mominsaigol]

I think I understand the pain and frustration of a few here.

When India lost that close match at Lords, and then proceeded to be 1/2 in the third innings at Old Trafford, everyone and their abbu here would have started distributing mithais for an inevitable 4-1 series defeat for India but that couldn't transpire as India held onto a draw against all odds.

And then when Root and Brook were batting in the last innings at the Oval, once again mithais were distributed to prematurely celebrate an Indian series defeat but that too ended up in a heartbreak and tears and India ended up drawing the series.

Now that there's no more hope , the last resort and coping mechanisms are -

"England are treating this as Ashes net practice "

"England were playing with C team and 10 men "

"But but Bumrah did not win you games it was muh musalmaan siraj "


Second hand embarassment and outright cringe lol..

Their is no pain except the one that i bring to many here.

 

[Mesozoic]

Their is no pain except the one that i bring to many here.

Okay. Be careful you might cut yourself with all that edge.

 

[mominsaigol]

Okay. Be careful you might cut yourself with all that edge.

I can't be cut, I am indestructible.

 

[jnaveen1980]

The recent test series against England has shown that Bumrah was an extra burden playing with injury. He was a burden and India lost games in his presence.

Siraj had more impact then him.

Bumrah can't bat for others. 192 chase is an easy chase for most teams. India flunking cannot be attributed to Bumrah.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Im talking about World events. No one cares about the CT. Indian fans would know because we won 2 of the last 3 editions.

lol you have won ONE so called world event then in 14 years and you have the gall to talk. Of course CT doesn't matter to you because you were smashed by 180 runs in a final by your biggest rivals.

 

[mominsaigol]

I can understand why indians would glorify bumrah using stats as they have zero qualitative analysis to counter.

Regardless even Bumrah would gladly trade his career for starc. You can't convince anyone on the planet that bumrah wouldn't wish to trade his 2017 and 2023 botches + his test curse where india loses more games with him included then win

That he would wish to retain such a record over starc who has the greatest bowling figures of all time in a world cup, followed by another 2023 wc win, a 2021 t20 wc win, a 2023 wtc wc win + a fantastic pink ball record, 400+ test wickets and the fastest 5 fer in history + 10fers to boost.

Even Bumrah wouldn't have such an ego that he would wish to keep his 19 avg and solo t20 wc victory over Starc's records in cups, and wicket tally.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

I can understand why indians would glorify bumrah using stats as they have zero qualitative analysis to counter.

Regardless even Bumrah would gladly trade his career for starc. You can't convince anyone on the planet that bumrah wouldn't wish to trade his 2017 and 2023 botches + his test curse where india loses more games with him included then win

That he would wish to retain such a record over starc who has the greatest bowling figures of all time in a world cup, followed by another 2023 wc win, a 2021 t20 wc win, a 2023 wtc wc win + a fantastic pink ball record, 400+ test wickets and the fastest 5 fer in history + 10fers to boost.

Even Bumrah wouldn't have such an ego that he would wish to keep his 19 avg and solo t20 wc victory over Starc's records in cups, and wicket tally.

Impeccable analysis bro that conclusively proves Starc > Bhumrah.

His test record is overrated though. He is a home track bully like Ashwin (failed in both WTC finals he played unlike Ashwin and was lucky his team carried him in 2021).

His test record:



He is basically Ashwin of fast bowlers in tests LOL!

 

[Mesozoic]

lol you have won ONE so called world event then in 14 years and you have the gall to talk. Of course CT doesn't matter to you because you were smashed by 180 runs in a final by your biggest rivals.

No we have won 3 world events in the 21st century.

You guys have just 1. Ofcourse I'll have the gal to talk.

And no...still don't care about the second grade champions trophy. Not because Pakistan fluked a win but because it's that....a second tier trophy...ghareebon ka WC. You can't even say I'm salty because we have 3 of them...more than any other team.

 

[kron]

No we have won 3 world events in the 21st century.

You guys have just 1. Ofcourse I'll have the gal to talk.

And no...still don't care about the second grade champions trophy. Not because Pakistan fluked a win but because it's that....a second tier trophy...ghareebon ka WC. You can't even say I'm salty because we have 3 of them...more than any other team.

Alright

I have had enough of this nonsense about bumrah choking

Watch this video. Not directed at you. In general

Bumrah choking myth

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Arshdeep reveals Siraj’s mantra for Test success

The Indian pacer reflects on lessons he picked up from the sidelines during India's tour of England.
Arshdeep Singh marked his return to competitive cricket in the ongoing Duleep Trophy after spending the past few months with India’s squad on the tour of England for the gruelling five-match Test series.

Despite not featuring in the Indian lineup in England, Arshdeep concedes that he spent the past few months soaking in the experience of his teammates, with the most valuable insight coming from India’s premier pacer Mohammed Siraj.

Opening up on the key piece of wisdom he received, Siraj told reporters in the backdrop of the domestic season, "In Test cricket or red-ball cricket, there is a time when the day gets boring.

"In the session after lunch, mostly the ball doesn't do anything. So, how can you enjoy that?

India's Arshdeep Singh has taken out the Men's T20I Cricketer of the Year at the ICC Awards 2024.

"I spoke to [Mohammed] Siraj and he told me that when nothing is happening, how you enjoy that phase would tell you how successful you could be in red-ball cricket. He gave me this small tip. I really liked it."

Arshdeep’s previous competitive outing was the IPL final nearly three months ago, and although he did not get the opportunity to earn his maiden Test cap in the England series, the 26-year-old added that he spent significant time training, keeping himself ready for whenever the opportunity arises.

"When you are not playing, you just try to push your limits. The training is almost the same," he said.

“You just put in more work when you are not playing. More overs, more strength work, more training, so that whenever you get the chance, you are ready and fully fit to go.

"I don't know how many thousands of balls I would have bowled in practice. It's not like there was a lack of bowling. I was properly managing my workload. The aim is to stay ready whenever you get a chance."

India’s next assignment is the Asia Cup, where Arshdeep is set to play a bigger role and is expected to lead the pace attack alongside Jasprit Bumrah.

“Right from the last Test [at The Oval], I had started practising with a white ball. I didn't know that there was a Duleep Trophy match in between.

"At the end of the day, red ball, white ball or pink ball, you have to play cricket and try and enjoy it.”

The upcoming continental tournament will be a key preparation for Asia's finest teams ahead of next year's ICC Men's T20 World Cup in India and Sri Lanka.

India will begin their Asia Cup campaign against UAE on September 10 in Dubai.

ICC

 

[Ab Fan]

Siraj having an amazing test match in presence of Bumrah.

 

[saimayubera]

Siraj having an amazing test match in presence of Bumrah.

Average now below 30.

Should aim to get it to the 27-28 level.

250 at 27 will be great.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Happy birthday to the Indian Test great
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After bowling 185.3 overs in England: 'Doesn't matter, you bowl every ball for the country, not for yourself'

Happy 32nd birthday to the man who never gives up, Mohammed Siraj

 

[jeetu]

Siraj performance do dip with Bumrah in playing XI but not to a great degree.
Test - 29.66 average to 32.15
ODI - 25.32 avg to 27.18

Probably his mindset changes from aggressive to supporting role when playing with Bumrah.

 

[sithb]

Siraj is a third bowler.

It's only the injuries to Bumrah and Shami which have made him be the frontline bowler at times.

As far as a third bowler goes , Siraj provides a lot of utility. But he'll never be the bowler that Shami was at his peak leave alone Bumrah