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[PICTURE/VIDEO] The "NO-BALL" bowled to Virat Kohli by Mohammad Nawaz

Was the decision to declare Mohammad Nawaz's ball as a no-ball, the correct one?

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What a heartbreak. and Third umpires should call no-ball moving forward

Was it a no-ball?

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Know you will realise how BD fans felt 2015. Rohit Sharma vs BD QF 2015 wc. Sharma went on to score ton and bulk of the runs. Never a no ball. But when you have such big money board you can afford to zaq buy umpires too!
 
tight call, someone plz post video here not pic. Wanna see if kohli was out of crease aswell.

It should had been the third umpires call not the leg
 
Was very marginal but not a no ball definitely...Wasn't given initially but only after Kohli asked for it for me. Pretty poor i must say. PS lets see how the umpires are treated after this especially considering that Aleem was banned for the remaining matches because he gave a close waist high no ball that affected the result in A world cup match
 
tight call, someone plz post video here not pic. Wanna see if kohli was out of crease aswell.

It should had been the third umpires call not the leg
 
The umpires want there pay day in the IPL, Pakistan have to put a official complaint in, it’s a disgrace!
 
If you draw a straight line, it will be above Kohli's navel. It was a couple of inches above his waist. It was a good call and a brave call considering the situation.
 
If Kohli was out of his crease, it cant be given as a no ball, it becomes a full toss.

Also, when a free hit ball hits wickets, byes count, i dont think they become a deadball but would like someone pulling out the rules.

But that was not a no ball, because kohli was outside of the crease line
 
That no ball was marginal. It really played a big part in the Indian win.
 
Kohli was playing outside and still it was not a no ball. I don't know why they didn't ask for the third umpire.
 
No-balls can't be reviewed, that's an unfortunate fact. Indian team knows that for sure, because there was an enormous incident around this rule in an IPL game last season with Delhi Capitals threatening to walk off.

It depends on where Kohli was taking guard, but this was most probably not a no-ball and a bad call.

The third umpire should be making all these calls honestly because they have enormous significance. This potentially cost Pakistan 4 runs and an extra ball.

Don't let that distract you from a truly horrendous over by Nawaz. Not because India got there, but he just got so scared that he wouldn't trust his normal bowling action and opted for this strange medium pace style with Rizwan standing back. If he had just bowled normally Pakistan would have deservedly won.
 
If Kohli was out of his crease, it cant be given as a no ball, it becomes a full toss.

Also, when a free hit ball hits wickets, byes count, i dont think they become a deadball but would like someone pulling out the rules.

But that was not a no ball, because kohli was outside of the crease line
 
No-balls can't be reviewed, that's an unfortunate fact. Indian team knows that for sure, because there was an enormous incident around this rule in an IPL game last season with Delhi Capitals threatening to walk off.

It depends on where Kohli was taking guard, but this was most probably not a no-ball and a bad call.

The third umpire should be making all these calls honestly because they have enormous significance. This potentially cost Pakistan 4 runs and an extra ball.

Don't let that distract you from a truly horrendous over by Nawaz. Not because India got there, but he just got so scared that he wouldn't trust his normal bowling action and opted for this strange medium pace style with Rizwan standing back. If he had just bowled normally Pakistan would have deservedly won.
 
Since when spinner no ball is a waist high, wasn't it chest high for a spinner? Is this rule changed too?
 
It was not a no ball by any means...look where he is playing that from never a no ball....the worse thing is the fact that the umpire didnt give it initially as can be seen in the replays. Only gave it like 20-30 seconds later and after Kohli literally asked for it...that is what pakistan were complaining about.
 
Thephenom said:
The umpires want there pay day in the IPL, Pakistan have to put a official complaint in, it’s a disgrace!
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IPL contracts indeed are a nice coping mechanism. :))

And the only bad decision in the match was a runout against India... so why would IPL pay for anti-India umpiring?
 
It was above waist at the point of contact but if you allow for the travel time to reach the batsman then may be tight. Looks like a fair call IMO. Perhaps a bit of bad luck but can't cry over that, plenty of things went in Pak's favor as well. Frankly, it was really a horrible delivery to bowl to a batsman in red hot form.
 
@Saj, can you please put a poll to see how many think it was a no ball or not?
Agreed pakistan should lodge a complaint. If India can complaint in Asia cup that Pakistan took too many breaks during their innings (in which Pakistan won), then Pakistan should put a complaint as well. Erasmus gifted the game to India

I have always credited India for their wins but this was NOT A NO-BALL and we have been cheated!
 
On field umpire should have refer to 3rd umpire i have seen this before not exactly in which match but recently
 
There's always something marginal in these 40/100 over games. Pakistan fans hang on to these for too long.
 
Erasmus didnt give a no-ball who was the third umpire, when Kohli claimed Rod gave it...

If on-field umpires are not sure , should have gone to the third umpire..

Lots of drama in the final over there after they lost Pandya first ball..
 
The umpire might not have given that as a no ball but Kohli put a lot of pressure on the umpire
 
Guys it wasn't a NO Ball

Kohli was well out of the crease using his feet. Had he stayed in normal position and the balls trajectory it would have been below his waist
 
@Saj, can you please put a poll to see how many think it was a no ball or not?
Agreed pakistan should lodge a complaint. If India can complaint in Asia cup that Pakistan took too many breaks during their innings (in which Pakistan won), then Pakistan should put a complaint as well. Erasmus gifted the game to India

I have always credited India for their wins but this was NOT A NO-BALL and we have been cheated!
 
ball was clearly over the waistline..its not too difficult to see that..its a fair call for a no ball..but even otherwise, Kohli would have won it after the six
 
Either IPL ( thereby BCCI ) has enough clout over ICC or not. Pakistan fans need to decide on it first. It is the latter in the Asia Cup venue change thread.
 
No point discussing this and will not change the result of the game. Nawaz was poor in last over so was our captain asking keeper to stand far from the stumps.
 
Ahmed216 said:
The umpire might not have given that as a no ball but Kohli put a lot of pressure on the umpire
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This.

And it was such a tight call at such a crucial point and they didn't even bother to send it upstairs, while they routinely go up for every random minor thing.

And don't forget that catch claimed by Ashwin, even then they gave the soft signal as out....while standing 70m away.
 
It was only no ball after Kohli whined. Pak would never have got that, they should complain officially for sure. But obviously that will go no where either as umpires work for India and BCCI.
 
Major said:
tight call, someone plz post video here not pic. Wanna see if kohli was out of crease aswell.

It should had been the third umpires call not the leg
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As I said in another post, it doesn't make an iota of difference. It would have been smashed for a six anyway. By that time the game was already India's.

Pretty poor stuff from Pakistani fans, alleging cheating by the umpires and India. You lot just let down your own team with your immature comments. Pakistan played superbly well.

No way Pakistan could have won in that last over with Nawaz bowling two wides, even if that wasn't a no-ball.
 
Major said:
tight call, someone plz post video here not pic. Wanna see if kohli was out of crease aswell.

It should had been the third umpires call not the leg
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Video added to post#1
 
As I said in another post, it doesn't make an iota of difference. It would have been smashed for a six anyway. By that time the game was already India's.

Pretty poor stuff from Pakistani fans, alleging cheating by the umpires and India. You lot just let down your own team with your immature comments. Pakistan played superbly well.

No way Pakistan could have won in that last over with Nawaz bowling two wides, even if that wasn't a no-ball.
 
It was way too marginal but i don't think India would have complained quite so much as we did if it wasn't given.

At the end of the day we bottled the game and Kohli was magnificent. This 50/50 call isn't that meaningful to me.
 
Now Pakistan is clutching at straws.

Game haar Gaye hein.

Don't find faults in umpires.
 
muazy1 said:
@Saj, can you please put a poll to see how many think it was a no ball or not?
Agreed pakistan should lodge a complaint. If India can complaint in Asia cup that Pakistan took too many breaks during their innings (in which Pakistan won), then Pakistan should put a complaint as well. Erasmus gifted the game to India

I have always credited India for their wins but this was NOT A NO-BALL and we have been cheated!
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Why? So you guys can play more of the victim card. We lost. Get over it. Nawaz was awful. He would've given the game away regardless. Some bad captaincy by babar
 
It wasn't a no-ball. Just like Sachin was out against Pakistan in the 2011 WC match. It's always a conspiracy by the evil BCCI against the poor, innocent Pakistan team.
 
To me it's not a no ball, ball was dipping on him.. but I thought the one DK faced is a no ball, I guess it's not called coz of he stepped out .
 
gani999 said:
As I said in another post, it doesn't make an iota of difference. It would have been smashed for a six anyway. By that time the game was already India's.

Pretty poor stuff from Pakistani fans, alleging cheating by the umpires and India. You lot just let down your own team with your immature comments. Pakistan played superbly well.

No way Pakistan could have won in that last over with Nawaz bowling two wides, even if that wasn't a no-ball.
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I think you are watching a different game. India were lucky to win this. That no ball decision rewarded 4 runs. 5 off last ball with Ashwin batting to Nawaz, that is not happening.
 
Major said:
tight call, someone plz post video here not pic. Wanna see if kohli was out of crease aswell.

It should had been the third umpires call not the leg
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Called by leg umpire and that's not fair, should have checked through tv umpire..
 
Virat's backfoot on the crease. He was not dancing down the pitch. Ball over waist.

A NO BALL.
 
It was not a no ball. Kohli was out of the crease.

Poor umpiring
 
basitmian said:
I think you are watching a different game. India were lucky to win this. That no ball decision rewarded 4 runs. 5 off last ball with Ashwin batting to Nawaz, that is not happening.
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It would have been 8 off 3 with Virat on strike.
 
Mas-LFC said:
Know you will realise how BD fans felt 2015. Rohit Sharma vs BD QF 2015 wc. Sharma went on to score ton and bulk of the runs. Never a no ball. But when you have such big money board you can afford to zaq buy umpires too!
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Oh please in that case the umpire signalled no-ball a second or two after Rohit had played the shot. That too a Pakistani umpire.

So stop with your conspiracy theories and concentrate on not remaining a minnow forever.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Virat's backfoot on the crease. He was not dancing down the pitch. Ball over waist.

A NO BALL.
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it should be inside, he was not inside. Doesnt matter if he is danving down the pitch or not.

its always about whether you are inside the crease or not.

His foot is on the crease not inside, that would be stumped and run out, thus it was not a no ball..

Anyways, i understand you will twist and wont agree because your team benefits, because you will have to defend the national verdict no matter what.

I know that the free hit delivery taht hit the wickets was not a dead ball, those runs count. But here it was not a no ball
 
cricketjoshila said:
Batsman dont stand with both feet inside the crease.
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i dont care.

by your logic does that mean that keepers shouldn't be stumping than?

out of the crease and a high ball, that is not a no ball simple. India cheated out a win. Good for them
 
cricketjoshila said:
Virat's backfoot on the crease. He was not dancing down the pitch. Ball over waist.

A NO BALL.
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India would have still won the had the match at that point when virat hit six runs, however this was NOT A NO BALL.

Again it wouldnt have made a difference in the result, but that ball was a fair delivary.
 
Major said:
it should be inside, he was not inside. Doesnt matter if he is danving down the pitch or not.

its always about whether you are inside the crease or not.

His foot is on the crease not inside, that would be stumped and run out, thus it was not a no ball..

Anyways, i understand you will twist and wont agree because your team benefits, because you will have to defend the national verdict no matter what.

I know that the free hit delivery taht hit the wickets was not a dead ball, those runs count. But here it was not a no ball
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Stumped and Run out has nothing to do with waist high no ball.


41.7.1 Any delivery, which passes or would have passed, without pitching, above waist height of the striker standing upright at the popping crease, is unfair. Whenever such a delivery is bowled, the umpire shall call and signal No ball.

Nowhere it says he has to be inside the crease. He has to be at the crease.
 
Mas-LFC said:
Know you will realise how BD fans felt 2015. Rohit Sharma vs BD QF 2015 wc. Sharma went on to score ton and bulk of the runs. Never a no ball. But when you have such big money board you can afford to zaq buy umpires too!
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Another day, another world cup, another 50 50 call again goes to the most powerful,power hungry,rich board. Wait for the brigade of Indian jingo army to come..oh wait nevermind..already came in the thread
 
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Mas-LFC said:
Know you will realise how BD fans felt 2015. Rohit Sharma vs BD QF 2015 wc. Sharma went on to score ton and bulk of the runs. Never a no ball. But when you have such big money board you can afford to zaq buy umpires too!
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Hehe as if bdesh was going to defeat India in wc qf. You guys are cute with small abilities and big ambitions!
 
Major said:
i dont care.

by your logic does that mean that keepers shouldn't be stumping than?

out of the crease and a high ball, that is not a no ball simple. India cheated out a win. Good for them
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41.7.1 Any delivery, which passes or would have passed, without pitching, above waist height of the striker standing upright at the popping crease, is unfair. Whenever such a delivery is bowled, the umpire shall call and signal No ball.


Where does it say that the batsman has to be inside the crease?
 
Thephenom said:
The umpires want there pay day in the IPL, Pakistan have to put a official complaint in, it’s a disgrace!
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The umpires want there pay day in the PCL since they gave out Axar, benifit of doubt always goes to Batsman; as per rule book..
 
I don't think it was a no ball, Pakistan was unlucky. However, after the start india had while batting (45/4 after 10), Pakistan should never have been in the situation of defending 7 of 2 balls. But on the point, thought it was a very very harsh call, it wasn't a no ball.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Stumped and Run out has nothing to do with waist high no ball.


41.7.1 Any delivery, which passes or would have passed, without pitching, above waist height of the striker standing upright at the popping crease, is unfair. Whenever such a delivery is bowled, the umpire shall call and signal No ball.

Nowhere it says he has to be inside the crease. He has to be at the crease.
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let me highlight it for you

kohli was not inside popping crease
 
A dodgy win from India but we should’ve beaten them in the 17th or 18th. I think we can go deep in this tournament.
 
par said:
That no ball was marginal. It really played a big part in the Indian win.
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Not sure on that note, Nawas was clearly in under big big bbiieeggg pressure, so he'd have given another freebie.. just see the wide ball given to Ashwin, that was a crime in that situation..
 
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He was bowled the next ball for those saying it wouldn't have made a difference. It was only given no on request of kohli. India won this match based on their IPL money, no way an umpire would have given that a no ball in any other match or against India. The picture clearly shows he's out of the crease, the ball dipping downwards rather than going upwards and he's reaching for it. Indians should be ashamed of defending such a non no ball. You barely won the game. Pakistan played much better cricket overall despite their worst batting display and it took the very best of your very best batsman + umpires help to get across the line. Pakistan the team to beat for the tournament. Pakistani bowling will shine and do wonders in this tournament and do wonders on these pitches.
 
No a no ball clearly. But we would have still loss with that poor bowling from Nawaz.
 
My take on this, yes the call was marginal.

But a spinner has no business bowling a waist high full-toss in the first place. What was Nawaz thinking?
 
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Can someone please validate the authenticity of this rule? I got this randomly from the internet.
 
What swayed the decision in our favor was that it happened twice in the over. First Karthik got a high full toss which Kohli claimed was a no ball. When it happened again, umpire was already under pressure so gave it a no ball. While i can imagine it's disheartening for pakistan fans but the bowler was playing with fire by bowling 2 full tosses in the last over.
 
Major said:
let me highlight it for you

kohli was not inside popping crease
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Read it again. The batsman doesn't have be inside the crease.

If a batsman is outside the crease, a bowler is allowed to bowl a full toss over his head. Is that your interpretation?
 
cricketjoshila said:
Read it again. The batsman doesn't have be inside the crease.

If a batsman is outside the crease, a bowler is allowed to bowl a full toss over his head. Is that your interpretation?
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Don’t take Major seriously.

Congratulations on a great win. India won fairly
 
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