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mominsaigol said:
Their is nothing wrong in slowing down for your personal milestones if the game is already won. Yesterday kohli slowed down but India won the game, first of they don't need to worry about nrr, since they've pretty much qualified at this point, India ain't losing to nedtherlands or many minnows they'll likely face later on. Secondly endless overs, they were chasing 256 lol.

We don't mind of Babar slows down for 100's if the game is already won. Problem is babar will always slow down even if the rr demands to accelerate hence he'll make you lose and cripple the rr.

Kohli doesn't slow down and cripple the rr ever, he's chased down plenty 350+ scores plenty times. Yes he has also chocked and played bad innings like that England semi final where he scored 50 of 44 and played a bad innings bit it doesn't happen 24/7.

With babar 100% of the time he'll slow down even if the rr is rising caus he'll expect others to do the heavy lifting which doesn't happen with rizwan and imam usually batting at the other end.
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Last 30 runs in 20 balls by King Kohli… still hez slow?
 
India was 231/3 in 38.4 overs. From then onwards, Kohli played all the deliveries and the match finished in 41.3 overs at 261/3. 30 runs in 17 deliveries at a rate of more than 10 runs per over. That is an excellent scoring rate in slog overs in ODI.
 
By the way NRR counts for those teams that scramble to qualify, having lost matches. Teams that do not lose matches need not worry about NRR. The other day, New Zealand chased similar total against same opponent Bangladesh. New Zealand took 42.5 overs to chase the target, which is 8 balls more than what India took.
 
Mamoon said:
When you are 3 away from the all-time record you would be stupid as hell to not chase it. Perfectly fine to go for milestones as long it doesn’t hamper the interests of the team.
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Exactly. I'm not sure whats the issue here. Team's interest was put first and then the personal milestone.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Against same Bangladesh chasing similar total Kane williamson made 78 in 107 balls with a pitiful strike rate of 72. Darryl Mitchell had to manage the strike rate by striking at 132. Why didn't Kane worry about NRR?
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One has led his country to international glory, the other is known by his own countrymen as Chokli.
 
If the OP is from India just be thankful that you don't have Babar Azam in your team.
 
Devadwal said:
Biggest chokers than whole NZ team lol .who were can't win a single icc odi tournament where King has already won two .
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Kane is a world champion captain, Kohli got sacked over landline.
 
Major said:
Pandya gets critisized alot but i like how pandya goes towards getting the match done quickly and not caring about other peoples milestones.

I wonder if any australian batter ever slowed down from one end so the other can get his milestone.

Indianfans get to work, bring me examplea of such, or else my next will be "that is why you can never reach the level of the aussies"
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The Aussies slow down for tons more than anyone else
 
"One has led his country to international glory, the other is known by his own countrymen as Chokli."
What international glory has Kane Williamson led New Zealand to ? Please enlighten us. India may choke against New Zealand, but New Zealand too chokes against Australia. Kohli has one ICC ODI title under his belt whereas Williamson has none. Kohli has 340 million twitter followers making him the third most followed sportsman in the world on twitter, a fact that helped Cricket being admitted into Olympic games. So Kohli has almost singlehandedly brought cricket into the fold of Olympic games. That should count for something.
 
latecut said:
"One has led his country to international glory, the other is known by his own countrymen as Chokli."
What international glory has Kane Williamson led New Zealand to ? Please enlighten us. India may choke against New Zealand, but New Zealand too chokes against Australia. Kohli has one ICC ODI title under his belt whereas Williamson has none. Kohli has 340 million twitter followers making him the third most followed sportsman in the world on twitter, a fact that helped Cricket being admitted into Olympic games. So Kohli has almost singlehandedly brought cricket into the fold of Olympic games. That should count for something.
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The ICC Test Championship where Kohli choked horrifically while Kane Williamson guided his team to victory with bat and captaincy. Kohli also choked originally in the second ICC Test Championship but that’s neither here nor there.
 
160KPH said:
The ICC Test Championship where Kohli choked horrifically while Kane Williamson guided his team to victory with bat and captaincy. Kohli also choked originally in the second ICC Test Championship but that’s neither here nor there.
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Common man. Kohli is only human. He will fail sometimes. Kohli is the last person on the planet to be called a choker.
 
I feel yesterday selfishness was taken to now heights by the indian batsman.

I am now watching cricket for nearly 30 years, but never I have felt so bad watching a game. I am not a Kohli fan and everyone knows it here. Yesterday, even me, I was feeling bad for him. The whole world is watching you, it's a world cup game and what you do? You refuse to take singles for your hundred.

In a world cup match, against Bangaldesh, with 19 runs remaining you decide that you will not take singles anymore. It was That is such a disrespect of the opposition team, such a disrespect of yourself as a sportsman.
He said at the player of the match prsentation that he had a lot of fifties and he really wanted that hundred - what does he think, that selfish hundred will make him a better player than a 90 not out?

The kind of mentality he showed yesterday makes me think he probably was happy seeing Rohit got out so he has enough runs to make his hundred.

Not only this was selfish but it was shameful in the context of the game.
I remember Sachin's 100th hundred being very selfish but this one takes the cake as it is a world cup game.
New nickname for Kohli is Mr Selfish from now on.
 
Scoring 103 of 97 is selfish and not hitting even a single six in power play is selfless batting. Completely agree with you. :genius
 
He refused four singles, but 30 runs came in the remaining 13 deliveries. hitting a six is 6 times more effective than taking 6 singles.
 
Mobashir said:
I feel yesterday selfishness was taken to now heights by the indian batsman.

I am now watching cricket for nearly 30 years, but never I have felt so bad watching a game. I am not a Kohli fan and everyone knows it here. Yesterday, even me, I was feeling bad for him. The whole world is watching you, it's a world cup game and what you do? You refuse to take singles for your hundred.

In a world cup match, against Bangaldesh, with 19 runs remaining you decide that you will not take singles anymore. It was That is such a disrespect of the opposition team, such a disrespect of yourself as a sportsman.
He said at the player of the match prsentation that he had a lot of fifties and he really wanted that hundred - what does he think, that selfish hundred will make him a better player than a 90 not out?

The kind of mentality he showed yesterday makes me think he probably was happy seeing Rohit got out so he has enough runs to make his hundred.

Not only this was selfish but it was shameful in the context of the game.
I remember Sachin's 100th hundred being very selfish but this one takes the cake as it is a world cup game.
New nickname for Kohli is Mr Selfish from now on.
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After refusing the run, India scored 19 runs in 13 balls (including the ball where the run was refused).

If this is selfish, I hope all Indian batsmen play this selfishly.
 
Sidilicious said:
After refusing the run, India scored 19 runs in 13 balls (including the ball where the run was refused).

If this is selfish, I hope all Indian batsmen play this selfishly.
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Even Mr Selfish himself think it was ridiculous to do this kind of thing in Such a big stage.

But as he is a kid, he did what KL Rahul told him to do.
 

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Mesozoic said:
Oh then you must rescale those "heights" when I present you this masterclass by Babar Azam in a 370 run chase.. :)

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I already know about this innings, it was selfish and also ability problems for the young Babar.

But you can tell me about Kohli's hundred vs Pakistan in 2015 wolrd cup.

He took 27 balls from 80 to hundred. From the 33rd over till the 42nd over.
5 overs were batting powerplay in witch india just scored 25 runs.
India was just 2 down but he only cared about his 119 ball hundred.

He is a selfish player, but he is a great player. You can just accept it.
Babar is a selfish player, I admit it.
Kohli is the king of selfish players. Even he says he did something Strange, selfish, but you guys want to defend him.
 
latecut said:
He refused four singles, but 30 runs came in the remaining 13 deliveries. hitting a six is 6 times more effective than taking 6 singles.
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Not taking singles to score a hundred is selfish and over all it is lack of respect for the opposition.
It is not a gully cricket match, that now we have secured the win, we play how we want.
 
Mobashir said:
Even Mr Selfish himself think it was ridiculous to do this kind of thing in Such a big stage.

But as he is a kid, he did what KL Rahul told him to do.
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Let's be honest, this isn't surprising. He has a creepy obsession with Ronaldo and idolizes him more than Tendulkar, this is someone who is well known to have a massive ego. Everyone even his fans know he's a selfish player who values his own records over the team. Countless videos of him looking disappointed when a teammate scores to take the limelight away from him.
 
What's more shameless - Kohli playing for his 100 in a WC game or Ronaldo trying to steal Bruno's WC goal?
 
It was KL Rahul who was refusing to take singles.. not Kohli.

Besides, "selfishness" is when players play for their stats and records even when their team is slipping into a muddy pit. Sachin in that 2012 Asia Cup game against Bangladesh, above mentioned Babar innings in Australia etc are examples of it.

Yesterday, the game was already dead and India had effectively 0% chance of losing it. I don't know how the word "selfish" even comes into the picture. Strange and unusual yes... Anyways the whole premise is non-existent when it's already clear that it wasn't even Kohli's idea to go for a hundred. You can't force your non-striker partner to run .
 
Mobashir said:
Even Mr Selfish himself think it was ridiculous to do this kind of thing in Such a big stage.

But as he is a kid, he did what KL Rahul told him to do.
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Again, 19 runs in 13 balls after refusing the single. I will take this selfishness by all Indian batsmen if they can score 19 runs in 13 balls while being selfish.

Unlike certain batsmen who dont even go for the target while chasing, just to ensure their hundred.

I know who is more selfish.
 
Sidilicious said:
After refusing the run, India scored 19 runs in 13 balls (including the ball where the run was refused).

If this is selfish, I hope all Indian batsmen play this selfishly.
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I think its futile to convince some people when Indians themselves are happy with what happened yesterday.
 
"As much I wanted Virat Kohli to score that hundred, you have to keep in mind, you want to finish the game as early as possible. You want your Net Run Rate to be at the top. If you are in a position where you are fighting for the Net Run Rate, then you don't want to look back and say 'you could have done that',"- Cheteshwar Pujara
 
Kohli was at it again, not taking easy singles to get another milestone
Unfotunatley he gets out just before getting his hundred but I would have liked him to have matched Sachins reccord today

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daytrader said:
"As much I wanted Virat Kohli to score that hundred, you have to keep in mind, you want to finish the game as early as possible. You want your Net Run Rate to be at the top. If you are in a position where you are fighting for the Net Run Rate, then you don't want to look back and say 'you could have done that',"- Cheteshwar Pujara
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What is pujara talking about? What's the point of rr? This isn't England where it rains and India has won all games. They've qualified even if they lose the next games which they won't. Only sa might win but seems unlikely.
 
Disappointed with Kohli on the end. He plays well, but suffers from the same syndrome that used to plague Indian cricket.
 
This one was way more embarrassing.. Western media like in England and Australia will rightfully call that behavior pathetic
 
Kohli is the greatest ODI chaser ever and one complete WC away from being coronated the greatest ODI player ever.

We owe a lot to him. But I seriously hope we are done with this 100 nonsense in the later stages. Sachin chasing 100 100s turned into a nightmare. Hope Kohli doesn't end up doing some rubbish like that and costing us something huge. Today could have gotten ugly, however confident you might try to act. And it was evident from the nerves in the Indian players once Kohli was out. All it takes is a one-over spell like the one Shami had to lose a game we had won just because of some record that he will anyway break eventually.
 
Mobashir said:
I feel yesterday selfishness was taken to now heights by the indian batsman.

I am now watching cricket for nearly 30 years, but never I have felt so bad watching a game. I am not a Kohli fan and everyone knows it here. Yesterday, even me, I was feeling bad for him. The whole world is watching you, it's a world cup game and what you do? You refuse to take singles for your hundred.

In a world cup match, against Bangaldesh, with 19 runs remaining you decide that you will not take singles anymore. It was That is such a disrespect of the opposition team, such a disrespect of yourself as a sportsman.
He said at the player of the match prsentation that he had a lot of fifties and he really wanted that hundred - what does he think, that selfish hundred will make him a better player than a 90 not out?

The kind of mentality he showed yesterday makes me think he probably was happy seeing Rohit got out so he has enough runs to make his hundred.

Not only this was selfish but it was shameful in the context of the game.
I remember Sachin's 100th hundred being very selfish but this one takes the cake as it is a world cup game.
New nickname for Kohli is Mr Selfish from now on.
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Repeat after me:

Kohli is the GOAT ODI batsman and Babar is not worthy of lacing his boots. I, Mobashir, sincerely apologize for comparing them. I am deeply ashamed of my ignorance.
 
Mamoon said:
Repeat after me:

Kohli is the GOAT ODI batsman and Babar is not worthy of lacing his boots. I, Mobashir, sincerely apologize for comparing them. I am deeply ashamed of my ignorance.
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What does Babar have to do with this?
 
Don't care tbh, some high performance individuals have that streak about them chasing records. Have seen entire team set aside for CR7 to get his goals playing for United and Madrid at times, especially if the games won.

While it's may seem a bit narcissistic, Kohli didn't let it affect the team's end result and that's what matter at the end. He played percentage cricket for the majority of that innings
 
OldWarHorse said:
Don't care tbh, some high performance individuals have that streak about them chasing records. Have seen entire team set aside for CR7 to get his goals playing for United and Madrid at times, especially if the games won.

While it's may seem a bit narcissistic, Kohli didn't let it affect the team's end result and that's what matter at the end. He played percentage cricket for the majority of that innings
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I mean on the same accord CR7 never scored in knockout matches for his international team. Messi gladly takes the pass first option and has a WC.
 
I don’t mind these personal obsession with milestones. As Hayden stated, you have to selfish to achieve greatness.
 
It's fine as it doesnt last more than an over or two and doesnt jeopardize the match result. But beyond that, slowing down for a century looks poor
 
160KPH said:
I mean on the same accord CR7 never scored in knockout matches for his international team. Messi gladly takes the pass first option and has a WC.
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Don't want to go into Messi v Ronaldo debate, Messi is an altogether different level of footballer IMO and I agree with your thought. (Ronaldo doesn't have the team to do it at WC to be honest, though he has more CLs)

More on the topic, that such ideas are not just with us as desis as some might like to think. And anyways, as I said what Kohli did was never at the expense of the team, he only played the way he did once the result was sealed.
 
OldWarHorse said:
Don't want to go into Messi v Ronaldo debate, Messi is an altogether different level of footballer IMO and I agree with your thought. (Ronaldo doesn't have the team to do it at WC to be honest, though he has more CLs)

More on the topic, that such ideas are not just with us as desis as some might like to think. And anyways, as I said what Kohli did was never at the expense of the team, he only played the way he did once the result was sealed.
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Fair enough, look I don’t think it’s that big of a deal. They ended up winning so it doesn’t matter. I do think it’s a bad look to get out right after purposefully turning down a run, but like it’s not that serious, he still did a masterful chase
 
It’s bad yes as he has a point to prove but it’s not as bad as few Pakistani posters are making it seem lol
 
Nothing wrong in chasing personal milestones as long as it is not jepordising the match. When you have more balls than runs no harm in playing that way.
It is harmful when you need to strike at more than 6 rr or have tailenders batting with you. Other than that it looks fine .
Also better to get the record or monkey off the back or else will become like Sachin's 100th century costing India the match.
 
Aman said:
Kane is a world champion captain, Kohli got sacked over landline.
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Kohli won a wc while williamson choked in 2 wc finals in a row. Kohli has a wc and champions trophy while kane is the king of bottling finals. Will never get his hands on a wc. And mate you are a kiwi, you guys are the biggest losers in history, you are experts in losing finals and semis. Kohli has won more limited overs trophies than your entire country. Kane bats at a strike rate of 75, he is a b grade version of amla, no one really rates him in odis. And not to forget his pathetic test record in India and England
 
Does anyone realize the irony in a kiwi calling kohli a choker when his team lost 2 wc finals in a row during their golden era and have won less icc tournaments than sri Lanka. Baby kohli in 2011 played a better innings in a wc final than Kane did in 2. Bottle a few finals and these chokers think they are Australia lol
 
Aman said:
People need to get out of this Desi mindset. If this backfires and India finish second on a small margin and get knocked out in the SFs, this match will come back up.
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I think Mitchell’s ‘kiwi’ mindset cost you the game. Him slowing down for his century was probably the difference between what you scored and 300+
 
India needed 44 and Kohli was 26 runs away from century. But he didn't try any risky shots for century. Probably he knew that if he gets out that time, India may lose in the end.

He went for milestone only when game was almost done and dusted. And he denied single once only.
Do you think Jaddu would've hit any boundary after Kohli was in 90s? Imagine Jaddu hitting a boundary when VK was on ~95.
Poor guy would've been cursed for life for denying century to Kohli.

His inning vs Aus and NZ today is one of the main reason that India is almost in semis now. The guy deserves the credit.

He deserved the hundred today and good that he tried for it. Move on.
 
Kohli is selfish hitting around 200 runs in last 2 games and winning 2 games.

While other 100 odd players in the World Cup are selfless for getting out and not chasing at all.

The amount of intellectual dishonesty deliberately shown by fans on this forum is tragic.

Instead of enjoying a masterful chase by best batsmen of the generation, it has come down to nitpicking why Kohli is selfish and a useless player because of this and that.
 
whats the use of these personal milestones if you cant win a ICC trophy during the last 10 years.
 
Is this how you celebrate scoring a 50? As if you’ve scored 200?
 

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Cover Drive Six said:
KL Rahul said "I denied the single. I told Virat that I'll just block. Virat said it would be bad if you won’t take single, people will think playing for personal milestone, but I said we are comfortably winning, you complete your century".
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This is why rubbish players like kl rahul virat and rohit should never ever be part of Indian team.

Enough with celebrity culture. Begone.

No more hopefully.
 
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