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India off-spinner Ravichandran Ashwin and on-field umpire Nitin Menon were seen arguing over allegedly obstructing the vision of the latter during the first session of day three in the first Test against New Zealand on Saturday.

The incident happened during the 77th over when Ashwin had completed bowling the fourth ball to New Zealand captain Kane Williamson and went across after finishing his bowling action.

After this, Menon was seen having a word with Ashwin over the off-spinner finishing his bowling action in front of him, which hinted at the umpire being blinded a bit while stepping on the danger area.

Ashwin then beat the outer edge of Williamson's bat with an around the off-stump delivery which skid after pitching. Immediately after this, India captain Ajinkya Rahane was summoned for a conversation with on-field umpires Menon and Virender Sharma.

Ashwin then joined the conversations on his way to completing the action after the bowling from around the wicket.

Visuals later showed India head coach Rahul Dravid trying to speak to match referee Javagal Srinath. Later on, on-air commentators suggested that rather than blocking the vision of the umpire, it could be more about Ashwin obstructing the non-striker from taking off for a quick single.

Ashwin had earlier broken the 151-run opening partnership by having Will Young edging a low-bounce delivery to keeper KS Bharat.

https://www.indiatvnews.com/sports/...on-in-argument-over-vision-obstruction-746963
 
Cannot stand Ashwin. Always thinks he is above the law! Hope he is reprimanded
 
He wont have argued if it was a foreign umpire but just bcoz it was Nitin Menon, he was showing his dadagiri. Ashwin should remember this is not TNPL where he constantly argues with umpires. This is international cricket and he should adhere to the rules prescribed by the umpire.
 
<b>'What is the penalty? Is it written?':
Furious Gavaskar lashes out at umpires for warning Ashwin for his follow through</b>

The on-field umpires weren't impressed with his followthrough action when bowling across the stumps and was warned as many as four times and the incident left former Indian batsman Sunil Gavaskar furious.

Veteran Indian spinner Ravichandran Ashwin was relentless with his efforts to get India the much-needed breakthrough on day 3 of the Kanpur Test. He used variations, went wide against Tom Latham, and event tried bowling across the stumps before he eventually dismissed opener Will Young on 89. However, the on-field umpires weren't impressed with his followthrough action when bowling across the stumps and was warned as many as four times and the incident left former Indian batsman Sunil Gavaskar furious.

It first happened in the 77th over when Ashwin went around the wicket against Kane Williamson. Umpire had a word with the offie as he was finishing his action in front of him, leaving him blinded in case of an LBW scenario. In the same over, two deliveries later, captain Ajinkya Rahane was summoned by the umpires although the bowler was nowhere near the danger area.

At the start of the 80th over, there was a heated discussion between the umpires and Rahane and Ashwin with the formers unhappy with the bowler obstructing the non-strikers in their running with his followthrough.

Miffed at the umpires Gavaskar lashed out at the umpires on air saying that there shouldn't be any penalty for this action.

"Rahane was coming in to say that if Ashwin is veering away and not going into the danger area, what is the issue. I think it is tough on the umpire because he might not be able to see what happens. What is the penalty? Is it written? It isn’t something that I know of. There is a penalty if the ball hits the helmet but what is the penalty if Ashwin keeps doing that? Do you think Ashwin will keep pushing that envelope?” he questioned.

Fellow commentator and former New Zealand cricketer Simon Doull suggested that the bowler can dictate which side the non-striker can stand.

“You get two penalties before you are not allowed to bowl, I believe. We will find out if he [Ashwin] keeps doing it. Once more [on if Ashwin will do it again], I reckon. If the non-striker wanted to run, Ashwin gets right in front of where the non-striker would probably be running. And, that is not allowed. The bowler can also not dictate where the non-striker stands,” he explained.

Ashwin eventually finished with a three-fer as India restricted New Zealand with a first-innings deficit of 49 before extending the lead to 63 runs.

Source: Hindustan Times.
 
He wont have argued if it was a foreign umpire but just bcoz it was Nitin Menon, he was showing his dadagiri. Ashwin should remember this is not TNPL where he constantly argues with umpires. This is international cricket and he should adhere to the rules prescribed by the umpire.

Perhaps he took some lessons from his captain:vk2
 
Not a very likeable bloke. I have always seen him hanging out with the coaches in the stands, dont think he gels particularly well with the rest of the team either!
 
Gavaskar was right, Ashwin did nothing against the rules, he just wanted to get as close as possible to the stumps to attacks both edges. As they kept showing the replays not once was the line of sight of umpires blocked since Ashwin was so quick to move out of the way and immediately stopped before crossing the runner's path. Also he avoided the danger area. Unless the batsmen (especially runner) had something to say no reason why the umpire must get involved in these things, I didn't see the Kiwis complain. IMO Nitin Menon created this drama to deflect attention from his shoddy umpiring this game. You could see the tension building since yesterday evening when there was so much talk about his umpiring, the previous over he didn't give a plumb LBW off Ashwin's bowling.

Ashwin bowled the rest of the overs from the other unfavorable (for offies) end because of this pointless drama.

If at all they want to avoid this, why not codify rules? Every sport has got strict rules, only cricket keeps these things ambiguous. In tennis, players can do underarm serve when the returner camps too deep, you don't see the chair umpire getting involved and making a scene. But in cricket the players are supposed to interpret loosely worded rules only for unemployed couch potatoes to pass judgement on their moral character, sportsmanship and what not.
 
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its not against the rules so umpire should allow it but give all appeals not out given he cant see whats happening, then its up to ashwin how he wants to use his reviews.
 
Not a very likeable bloke. I have always seen him hanging out with the coaches in the stands, dont think he gels particularly well with the rest of the team either!

Maybe he doesn't gel well with 'toxic' Kohli and his cronies mostly comprising of brats, Bollywood wannabes and sycophants.

Ashwin, Pujara and Rahane always hang around together, even off-field. No surprise these 3 formed the leadership group when Kohli ran away after the Adelaide disaster last year. In fact he and Pujara are thick as brothers. And by most accounts he is close to the new T20I skipper Rohit as well.

Kohli is the real menace in the Indian team set up, doubt anyone genuinely gels with him, all for show to be in his good books.

Ashwin probably used to hang out with Bharat Arun and Sridhar because they all are Tamils and share common interests wrt cuisine, movies, language etc. Watch his 'Kutty Stories' videos on his YouTube channel where those two appear regularly. This test he was hanging out with the rookie Bharat who plays with him in a Chennai league club.
 
Maybe he doesn't gel well with 'toxic' Kohli and his cronies mostly comprising of brats, Bollywood wannabes and sycophants.

Ashwin, Pujara and Rahane always hang around together, even off-field. No surprise these 3 formed the leadership group when Kohli ran away after the Adelaide disaster last year. In fact he and Pujara are thick as brothers. And by most accounts he is close to the new T20I skipper Rohit as well.

Kohli is the real menace in the Indian team set up, doubt anyone genuinely gels with him, all for show to be in his good books.

Ashwin probably used to hang out with Bharat Arun and Sridhar because they all are Tamils and share common interests wrt cuisine, movies, language etc. Watch his 'Kutty Stories' videos on his YouTube channel where those two appear regularly. This test he was hanging out with the rookie Bharat who plays with him in a Chennai league club.

Pretty sure you are supporting him only bcoz he is Tamil. If he was from any other state, especially a player from North India, you would call it as toxic behaviour. Your personal bias is known to all but keeping that aside for a minute and just from the video posted in OP, Ashwin's behaviour must be condemned. And this is not the first time he has behaved inappropriately or tried to act oversmart.

Kohli maybe a menace for team India but this topic has nothing to do with him. Not sure why you guys get so defensive for Ashwin :))
 
Pretty sure you are supporting him only bcoz he is Tamil. If he was from any other state, especially a player from North India, you would call it as toxic behaviour. Your personal bias is known to all but keeping that aside for a minute and just from the video posted in OP, Ashwin's behaviour must be condemned. And this is not the first time he has behaved inappropriately or tried to act oversmart.

Kohli maybe a menace for team India but this topic has nothing to do with him. Not sure why you guys get so defensive for Ashwin :))

Address the points, not the person. First thing they teach you in school.
 
Pretty sure you are supporting him only bcoz he is Tamil. If he was from any other state, especially a player from North India, you would call it as toxic behaviour. Your personal bias is known to all but keeping that aside for a minute and just from the video posted in OP, Ashwin's behaviour must be condemned. And this is not the first time he has behaved inappropriately or tried to act oversmart.

Kohli maybe a menace for team India but this topic has nothing to do with him. Not sure why you guys get so defensive for Ashwin :))

Everyone has their biases, if someone says he doesn't, he's lying. You have yours, that's why you turn a blind eye to Kohli's antics where Kohli has behaved far worse and far more frequently against the umpires than Ashwin ever did in this instance.
 
Pretty sure you are supporting him only bcoz he is Tamil. If he was from any other state, especially a player from North India, you would call it as toxic behaviour. Your personal bias is known to all but keeping that aside for a minute and just from the video posted in OP, Ashwin's behaviour must be condemned. And this is not the first time he has behaved inappropriately or tried to act oversmart.

Kohli maybe a menace for team India but this topic has nothing to do with him. Not sure why you guys get so defensive for Ashwin :))

Address the points, not the person. First thing they teach you in school.

I also think region is a factor in support, which shouldn't be a surprise as not supporting someone from your region/country is the exception rather than the rule.

As for Ashwin, I like the guy. No doubt he annoys people, which is okay as he is successful against their teams. He is well mannered, as I would expect from a Tambram. He is not ill-mannered the way many players are, and doesn't mouth obscenities. I rate his bowling very highly.

I like Kohli too, though he certainly has the North West Indian abrasiveness. I do not think his team selection is always the best, but the blame for that goes to the coach and others too. He definitely brings energy to the field, though when under attack his captaincy sometimes wilts. I think Rahane and Rohit are better captains. I rate Kohli's batting highly.

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Everyone has their biases, if someone says he doesn't, he's lying. You have yours, that's why you turn a blind eye to Kohli's antics where Kohli has behaved far worse and far more frequently against the umpires than Ashwin ever did in this instance.

Turn blind eye on Kohli's antics..when? Lol. I am not even a fan of Kohli. I was the first one to blame him for his woke behaviour. I actually like Ashwin. Infact I like any player that plays for India bcoz I have no region bias. I am a nationalist and dont care if he is from North South, East or West, hindu or muslim, men or women...as long as he plays for India, I will support him.

But it gets very nauseating when some posters drag regional bias in every posts and stop calling spade a spade. One tone of posting in Kanpur thread but a different tone all together here bcoz the culprit is Ashwin. There lies my problem. Everyone need to be honest while posting and if we are we can clearly see Ashwin and Rahane was trying to bully umpire Menon here.
 
Turn blind eye on Kohli's antics..when? Lol. I am not even a fan of Kohli. I was the first one to blame him for his woke behaviour. I actually like Ashwin. Infact I like any player that plays for India bcoz I have no region bias. I am a nationalist and dont care if he is from North South, East or West, hindu or muslim, men or women...as long as he plays for India, I will support him.

But it gets very nauseating when some posters drag regional bias in every posts and stop calling spade a spade. One tone of posting in Kanpur thread but a different tone all together here bcoz the culprit is Ashwin. There lies my problem. Everyone need to be honest while posting and if we are we can clearly see Ashwin and Rahane was trying to bully umpire Menon here.

Lol you criticising Kohli for being woke is not really neutral of you. You're a right winger (I think you'll agree yourself) and of course you're going to be offended at Kohli's woke behaviour. If you had called out Kohli swearing at umpires before, you would have a semblance of neutrality, not when you call out Kohli's wokeness.

Btw everyone who supports the Indian team supports every player who plays for it. It's not special behaviour. Everyone has certain favourite players, doesn't mean you don't support others.
 
Turn blind eye on Kohli's antics..when? Lol. I am not even a fan of Kohli. I was the first one to blame him for his woke behaviour. I actually like Ashwin. Infact I like any player that plays for India bcoz I have no region bias. I am a nationalist and dont care if he is from North South, East or West, hindu or muslim, men or women...as long as he plays for India, I will support him.

But it gets very nauseating when some posters drag regional bias in every posts and stop calling spade a spade. One tone of posting in Kanpur thread but a different tone all together here bcoz the culprit is Ashwin. There lies my problem. Everyone need to be honest while posting and if we are we can clearly see Ashwin and Rahane was trying to bully umpire Menon here.

'... His woke behaviour...'

:facepalm:

I swear people just utter those words because it's the 'thing' to do. If you don't know what that word stands for I suggest not to use it.
 
'... His woke behaviour...'

:facepalm:

I swear people just utter those words because it's the 'thing' to do. If you don't know what that word stands for I suggest not to use it.

All right wingers hate anything remotely related to what can be categorised as "wokeness":yk
 
<b>'What is the penalty? Is it written?':
Furious Gavaskar lashes out at umpires for warning Ashwin for his follow through</b>

Miffed at the umpires Gavaskar lashed out at the umpires on air saying that there shouldn't be any penalty for this action.

"Rahane was coming in to say that if Ashwin is veering away and not going into the danger area, what is the issue. I think it is tough on the umpire because he might not be able to see what happens. What is the penalty? Is it written? It isn’t something that I know of. There is a penalty if the ball hits the helmet but what is the penalty if Ashwin keeps doing that? Do you think Ashwin will keep pushing that envelope?” he questioned.


Source: Hindustan Times.

So he didn’t lash out at the umps. He just asked some questions. Silly headline by some editor.
 
Not a very likeable bloke. I have always seen him hanging out with the coaches in the stands, dont think he gels particularly well with the rest of the team either!
Shane Warne still hates Steve Waugh and I am pretty sure Michael Jordan wasn’t popular with his teammates either. Still that didn’t stop both of them from winning matches and trophies for their teams. As long as Ashwin takes wickets and contribute to the team, I don’t think anyone will bother his likeability .
 
Lol you criticising Kohli for being woke is not really neutral of you. You're a right winger (I think you'll agree yourself) and of course you're going to be offended at Kohli's woke behaviour. If you had called out Kohli swearing at umpires before, you would have a semblance of neutrality, not when you call out Kohli's wokeness.

Btw everyone who supports the Indian team supports every player who plays for it. It's not special behaviour. Everyone has certain favourite players, doesn't mean you don't support others.

Please prove that Kohli sweared at umpires, post visuals with Audio, otherwise you are wrong.

Secondly Ashwin didn't do anything wrong, agree with you on that. He is one player who always wants to point out hypocritical behavior in cricket ( mankad or the recent ipl incident)

If Kohli actually sweared at an umpire then I am quite sure he would have gotten banned for one or two tests.


Swearing at any individual is totally different to swearing after your team gets a wicket, that's not directed at any particular individual.
 
What law has Ashwin broken? None.

And our padosis with the usual Ashwin chucks. He has never been called.
 
Please prove that Kohli sweared at umpires, post visuals with Audio, otherwise you are wrong.

Secondly Ashwin didn't do anything wrong, agree with you on that. He is one player who always wants to point out hypocritical behavior in cricket ( mankad or the recent ipl incident)

If Kohli actually sweared at an umpire then I am quite sure he would have gotten banned for one or two tests.


Swearing at any individual is totally different to swearing after your team gets a wicket, that's not directed at any particular individual.

He has often yelled out the "B" word when an umpire turns down a close appeal. But because he says the word pretty much everytime, it's hard to find out if he swears at the umpire or he swears in disappointment. He often talks in an aggressive manner and has pointed at fingers at them. Either way, not a good look imo.
 
What law has Ashwin broken? None.

And our padosis with the usual Ashwin chucks. He has never been called.

He's not broken any laws hence he's not been punished (although there's a strong argument he's broken the players code of conduct by showing dissent/disrespect to an umpires decision), but at the same time he can't complain if at any point the umpire turns down an appeal no matter how blatant because his view was blocked.
 
Its not even clear yet if the issue was about blocking umpire's vision or non-striker's, but people have already started pronouncing judgements.
 
This is guy Ashwin is arrogant and egoistic. He has issues with everything
I don't like his antics and Social media garbage.
 
He's not broken any laws hence he's not been punished (although there's a strong argument he's broken the players code of conduct by showing dissent/disrespect to an umpires decision), but at the same time he can't complain if at any point the umpire turns down an appeal no matter how blatant because his view was blocked.

What decision? There was no decision made by umpires. If Ashwin was breaking any rules and umpires stopped him and he protested that would be dissent.
 
What decision? There was no decision made by umpires. If Ashwin was breaking any rules and umpires stopped him and he protested that would be dissent.

According to multiple media outlets when Ashwin was told by the umpire that he wouldn't be able to give LBWs if he couldn't see Ashwin responded (and was caught on stump mic) saying something along the lines of "You're not giving any anyway" which I'd suggest is pretty blatant dissent.
 
I've grown to dislike Ashwin a lot in recent times. He maybe in the right with regards to the law but he comes across as someone who thinks he is cleverer than he actually is and is overly defensive at times. I didnt mind the mankading but I support Nitin Menon on this . He shouldn't give any decision if Ashwin keeps blocking his view.
 
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