[PICTURES/VIDEOS] A case for Sharjeel Khan: no sense to keep him out of the side

[Rana]

Stats are always misleading. The problem for Pakistan were not the openers

I can’t say I am surprised at this.

 

[mominsaigol]

TBH, I will simply use Farhan and Fakhar up top now. Babar at 3. drop rizwan
but this not going to happen. So what can I say.

Brother you're not understanding. It takes years to build a team.

Pakistan may have fluked one hit wonders Like Abdullah hitting a century as a debutant against sri lanka or Fakhar as a debutant up and winning CT or Sarfraz who granted wasn't a debutant but had very little match practise courtesy of misbah, show up.

But it will not always work, normal people will fail, so you don't just press the panic button. You check their potential.

What is Fakhar's max potential? 150+ exploits correct?

What is Sharjeel's max potential? Best Pakistan’s best PP utiliser correct?

What is Saud Shakeel's max potential? A 200 test score in overseas that not even babar through 6 years of his career has been able to provide correct?

Now what is Babar and rizwan's max potential? Accumulative scores.

^^ Now from this pool, Each of these players failed, Fakhar isn't consistent enough, Babar dissapears in key moments, Rizwan faiked for 7 years, Sharjeel isn't consistent enough, Saud failed in Australia and isn't a consistent at no 5 in odi.

However who has the max potential?

^^ From this list, How on earth did you all and Misbah reach the conclusion that Babar and rizwan are the ones with the most potential and must he carried forward for pakistan and made more consistent?

If Rohit Sharma was in pakistan, he'd probs be discarded and gone after failing in the MO before opening or failing an entire year in 2022.

I don't get it, Why can BCCI and CA see and analyse players on potential but Pakistani fans can't?

This quick fix solution doesn't work.

 

[mominsaigol]

Stats are always misleading. The problem for Pakistan were not the openers. The problem was playing a toothless spinner in Shadab, a disinterested leading bowler in Shaheen, an unimaginative captain in Babar and poisonous team management/cricket board.

When it comes to strikers of the ball, Saim Ayub & Azam Khan have already proved how brainless they are. I was actually supporting Sharjeel Khan a few days ago but when I closely saw his game and skill against half decent quality bowlers I withdrew my support.

I would rather play Saud Shakeel as a T20 opener and find some quality bowlers who can defend targets of 170-180. Pakistan is simply not cut to make 220-250 in 20 overs. The sooner we realise that, the better.

Stats are misleading if you take things put of context.

For example saying Fakhar has a sr of 133 is misleading because SR's and AVG's decrease if a batter fails. Because in odi whenever fakhar scores, He's 90% of the time gone from striking at 70 to striking g at 80 to striking at 90 to eventually reaching 160 in odi lol.

Babar and rizwan avg 41 to 50 with low sr's, meaning they've been consistent and making slow scores for t20

 

[mominsaigol]

I can’t say I am surprised at this.

Stats are misleading if you take things out of context, so in case people rat, Here's the context.

Babar avg 41, Sr 129
Rizwan avg 49 sr 122

^^ No more excuses can be made. @gazza619 these contextual stats show consistently Messing up the PP.

These 2 collectively average making 90 runs of 12-13 overs and then getting dismissed at crucial stages causing problems.

 

[Kianig89]

The good thing is now majority in consensus that Sharjeel is not the answer, do don't worry now things will be sorted as we are not going back to square 1.

Next T20 series/game

Fakhar
Haris
Babar

This should be the top 3 ,

 

[Rana]

The good thing is now majority in consensus

Says who?

 

[Rana]

This quick fix solution doesn't work.

It also causes detrimental harm in the long run

 

[mominsaigol]

It also causes detrimental harm in the long run

I disagree. For pakistan quick fixed have worked in the past, but pakistan fumbled them big.

For example Fakhar Zaman and Sarfraz in 2017 and 2015 were quick fixes to save the humiliation, and both ended up becoming gems and later became permanent stays.

It's just quick fix doesn't always work and usually fails more often then not, which is why India played it smart by nit having abh and Jaiswal and Gill play in the world cup, as when these 3 cane, before they could properly adjust they collapsed like a house of cards against Zimbabwe and clearly weren't ready to face stronger teams, hence their talent must be nutured.

Rizwan wasn't a quick fix, he didn't pop out of nowhere. He made his debut in 2015 before babar even, but always failed even though despite sarfi being VC in t20 in 2016, Afridi tried his hardest to make rizzu work.

Rizwan is basically asad shafiq 2.0 with misbah shoving him at key positions over others and it never worked out. Rizwan at t20 opening has never worked in tournaments and will never work.

 

[Rana]

I disagree. For pakistan quick fixed have worked in the past, but pakistan fumbled them big.

For example Fakhar Zaman and Sarfraz in 2017 and 2015 were quick fixes to save the humiliation, and both ended up becoming gems and later became permanent stays.

It's just quick fix doesn't always work and usually fails more often then not, which is why India played it smart by nit having abh and Jaiswal and Gill play in the world cup, as when these 3 cane, before they could properly adjust they collapsed like a house of cards against Zimbabwe and clearly weren't ready to face stronger teams, hence their talent must be nutured.

Rizwan wasn't a quick fix, he didn't pop out of nowhere. He made his debut in 2015 before babar even, but always failed even though despite sarfi being VC in t20 in 2016, Afridi tried his hardest to make rizzu work.

Rizwan is basically asad shafiq 2.0 with misbah shoving him at key positions over others and it never worked out. Rizwan at t20 opening has never worked in tournaments and will never work.

Tbh I don’t think Sarfaraz was supposed to be a quick fix. He was destined to become Pakistan’s leader at some point, just like Saad Baig will eventually become Pakistan’s leader one day.

Pakistan as a nation for some time have been obsessed with safety first cricket. The inclusion of Fakhar instead of Shahzad was a bit of a panic move, but even before it they have always never wanted to put 2 dashers as openers.

There has to be one laanat accompanied with a free flow player for some reason. Bizarre cricket nation I must say!

 

[IMMY69]

@Kianig89 @IMMY69 @gazza619 @RidiculousMan @BouncerGuy

Can you explain why this has been the issue with Pakistan cricket since Covid restrictions ended?

Well that question should be asked to players such as Ayub, Fakhar, Azam, Imad and IFti as well as to Rizbar...
Or do these players, bar the two that open, only strike well when opening the bat?

Unless the stats are not for the collective team and indivual?

Also maybe compare the team strike rates for games played in the USA leg?

Finally, what has any of this got to do with bringing a player like Sharjeel back?
Explain the logic of bringing back someone who is now old and extremely slow on the field?

 

[IMMY69]

Says who?

Well unless the majority are as insane as the minority

 

[Rana]

Well that question should be asked to players such as Ayub, Fakhar, Azam, Imad and IFti as well as to Rizbar...

Besides Ayub,

Did these 4 (Fakhar, Azam, Imad and Ifti) have assigned powerplay duties? What are you on about? The question is about Pakistan’s PP sr, the question needs to be posed to their openers, they get the lion share of the powerplay. How can you question guys who are not really lined up for that role?!

 

[Rana]

Well unless the majority are as insane as the minority

The majority became die hard Pakistan cricket fans during Covid. Pakistan cricket was an illusion to them before 2019

 

[IMMY69]

Issue this before and will say it again.

Pakistan cricket in T20's needs to start afresh.

Pick a young captain with young players and just go with it.

With the current players, the lack of ability is not the main issue. It is the lack of intelligence and game awareness that causes their downfall.

Both the games against the USA and India exposed our lack of cricketing IQ.
Tgis was not just with the bat but with the ball too.

 

[IMMY69]

Besides Ayub,

Did these 4 (Fakhar, Azam, Imad and Ifti) have assigned powerplay duties? What are you on about? The question is about Pakistan’s PP sr, the question needs to be posed to their openers, they get the lion share of the powerplay. How can you question guys who are not really lined up for that role?!

Fakhar and that ex UAE batters' dismissal against the USA, what has the PP got to do with their dismissal?

furthermore, they carried on the same vein against India too.

 

[Rana]

Fakhar and that ex UAE batters' dismissal against the USA, what has the PP got to do with their dismissal?

furthermore, they carried on the same vein against India too.

Fakhar bats at 4 for Pakistan. If the number 4 has to bat in the powerplay, how do you expect him to play? Like an opener (free of mind with no wickets having fallen)?

Do you understand the meaning of 3 wickets falling the the powerplay stat? Do you know what that results in mostly? Is Fakhar, our number 4 supposed to play as if his wicket falling now wouldn’t impact the game?

 

[IMMY69]

Besides Ayub,

Did these 4 (Fakhar, Azam, Imad and Ifti) have assigned powerplay duties? What are you on about? The question is about Pakistan’s PP sr, the question needs to be posed to their openers, they get the lion share of the powerplay. How can you question guys who are not really lined up for that role?!

Again, you keep harping on about RizBar when I can saying that a complete overhaul is necessary and that using stupid stats of batters that you clearly hate as human beings as well as the cricketing prowess to justify the inclusion of a 30 something year old player is tiresome and doesn't push the cricket team to bigger and better things

 

[IMMY69]

Fakhar bats at 4 for Pakistan. If the number 4 has to bat in the powerplay, how do you expect him to play? Like an opener (free of mind with no wickets having fallen)?

Do you understand the meaning of 3 wickets falling the the powerplay stat? Do you know what that results in mostly? Is Fakhar, our number 4 supposed to play as if his wicket falling now wouldn’t impact the game?

I see, so Usman coming in with first couple of overs and trying to launch it for six when there is a player placed exactly in the position is because we were one down?

Or

Fakhar coming in when we were two down, still in the power play and trying to ramp the ball over a field placed exactly for that shot was because he didn't open the batting?

 

[IMMY69]

What is the logic of selecting a 30+ year old in T20 cricket? How does that progress the performances of the team?

Bearing in mind the next T20 World Cup is in a couple of years, not in a month or even a couple of months time

 

[Rana]

What is the logic of selecting a 30+ year old in T20 cricket? How does that progress the performances of the team?

Bearing in mind the next T20 World Cup is in a couple of years, not in a month or even a couple of months time

You pick what’s right for the job

What’s your logic in picking unknowns to compete at the mega event for you?

You have ideas apparently. What’s your XI for the 2026 World Cup? Let’s hear them now. Be clear in your mind.

 

[IMMY69]

You pick what’s right for the job

What’s your logic in picking unknowns to compete at the mega event for you?

You have ideas apparently. What’s your XI for the 2026 World Cup? Let’s hear them now. Be clear in your mind.

Any player that has played first class cricket or under 19's that is between the age of 19 to 25

start with that catagory and then look for individuals that fit within that catagory...

Won't happen but that's the way forward.

 

[Rana]

Any player that has played first class cricket or under 19's that is between the age of 19 to 25

start with that catagory and then look for individuals that fit within that catagory...

Won't happen but that's the way forward.

Sounds great, but do you have a team in mind to make this happen? Even I can say I want the team to play like this and that, I need to back it up with an XI that I expect to execute my plans.

 

[shaz619]

If Sharjeel is the solution from your side, then I will rest my case, your honor.

He is just a small part of a much bigger problem, overlooking him, is accepting failure and the need for serious change.

Uncles celebrating this is so amusing for me, Vandeh-Mataram @ Pakistan’s PP S/R relative to other top sides…

 

[Kianig89]

What will Sharjeel offer, a random boundary followed by a customary catch to deep backward point, not to mention his sloppy fielding, we need to look ahead

 

[shaz619]

I would bet with my life that had Kamran and Sharjeel opened against the USA, they’d have done a better job in the PP and I will go out on a limb to say that they’d have done better against India. Now am not suggesting Kami should come back, I don’t think folk have suggested every player that has done well in the WCL tournie but Sharjeel is still a live dog, one who’s critics have depicted a strange amnesia towards Pakistan premier List A domestic competition and are banding him in the same bracket as retired talent very ignorantly

 

[shaz619]

What will Sharjeel offer, a random boundary followed by a customary catch to deep backward point, not to mention his sloppy fielding, we need to look ahead

I want to look ahead to, time for Chacha v2.0.

Chacha is such a nice bloke to.

 

[IMMY69]

Sounds great, but do you have a team in mind to make this happen? Even I can say I want the team to play like this and that, I need to back it up with an XI that I expect to execute my plans.

The hard truth is that there aren't any.
They need to be developed.

Every top international country have someone they can call up to do a job, almost at any position... and the replacements are young.

We just don't have the system or the people that can run it without corruption or nepotism...

I keep saying this and it still doesn't sink in... I can't get my head around this...

They remove captian after just one series and bring back a player to captain who has proven to be a useless captain.

With decisions like that how can anything improve?

 

[BouncerGuy]

You know, things are bad when people are advocating for 34-year-old guy and a retired individual instead of looking for a youngster for long term planning.

 

[IMMY69]

I would bet with my life that had Kamran and Sharjeel opened against the USA, they’d have done a better job in the PP and I will go out on a limb to say that they’d have done better against India. Now am not suggesting Kami should come back, I don’t think folk have suggested every player that has done well in the WCL tournie but Sharjeel is still a live dog, one who’s critics have depicted a strange amnesia towards Pakistan premier List A domestic competition and are banding him in the same bracket as retired talent very ignorantly

Mate, they maybe have but let's apply some context here. These two did well in a legends competition where most of the bowlers wouldn't get into a first class team let alone a good club first team.

 

[shortbread]

Azam Khan has redefined Pakistan cricket.

With his athleticism and physicality, he's made the impossible possible, he's given hope to people like Sharjeel who've given up long ago. Now even Paralympians feel they have a shot at making the Pakistan playing XI!

Azam Khan is an inspiration.

 

[Kianig89]

Comparing Sharjeel with Chahcha already killed the discussion. Cheers

 

[shaz619]

Mate, they maybe have but let's apply some context here. These two did well in a legends competition where most of the bowlers wouldn't get into a first class team let alone a good club first team.

The quality in the tournie was not indifferent to what I’ve seen from teams Pakistan has lost to such as the USA, Zimbabwe and Ireland, all the twerking I’ve seen over Babar and Rizwan has usually been over their stat padding against similar bowling because no other international side is dumb enough to play their full strength international team in bilateral T20’s, and having said that, their use of the PP has still been shocking and the T20 WC should have hammered that point home. And one of the players who competed in the WCL is still a live dog based on his participation in Pakistan’s top flight domestic cricket and is considerably younger then Chacha.

 

[IMMY69]

Regarding the campions cricket competition, I'm useless, but even I managed to hit one of the biggest sixes I have ever hit when I once played on a ground with a 45/50 meter boundary...

Reason being is that you play with freedom, knowing that a decent mis hit is likely to go for a six or a four...
When you play with that freedom then chances are you're gonna hit a few sweetly

 

[shaz619]

Comparing Sharjeel with Chahcha already killed the discussion. Cheers

If you lot have problem with Sharjeel’s age, you should have kept this energy with Chacha and other oldies in the past like Misbah, but no

 

[shaz619]

Regarding the campions cricket competition, I'm useless, but even I managed to hit one of the biggest sixes I have ever hit when I once played on a ground with a 45/50 meter boundary...

Reason being is that you play with freedom, knowing that a decent mis hit is likely to go for a six or a four...
When you play with that freedom then chances are you're gonna hit a few sweetly

You can’t really use that example.

Some players just pass the eye test and have supporting evidence, it’s not just this WCL tournie but top flight domestic cricket.

 

[IMMY69]

You can’t really use that example.

Some players just pass the eye test and have supporting evidence, it’s not just this WCL tournie but top flight domestic cricket.

I'm just highlighting my own experience...

It clearly plays a party otherwise guys like Rydu, Bell, even Tanvir Ahmed and Amin would have played a lot more for their countries in T20's, tab it as a top order hitter

 

[shaz619]

I hadn’t followed Sharjeel for some time and was about to be grasped by the misguided agenda against aggressive batsman, but then I found out that actually, he is not past it yet and has been performing in domestic cricket , and this was well before the WCL, but how he is also been the best player in the WCL yeah sure against lower attacks although more experienced and similar to USA/Ireland/Zimbabwe, reinforces my opinion that he should be in the conversation to open in the champions trophy, you are acting like you shake a tree in Pak and out falls 19 year old David Warner’s, the sad truth is you would happily take an older batsman with sound technique but zero modern batting know how, many of our fans seem to be poisoned with this including some family members who I have to disown sadly for the movement

 

[IMMY69]

I hadn’t followed Sharjeel for some time and was about to be grasped by the misguided agenda against aggressive batsman, but then I found out that actually, he is not past it yet and has been performing in domestic cricket , and this was well before the WCL, but how he is also been the best player in the WCL yeah sure against lower attacks although more experienced and similar to USA/Ireland/Zimbabwe, reinforces my opinion that he should be in the conversation to open in the champions trophy, you are acting like you shake a tree in Pak and out falls 19 year old David Warner’s, the sad truth is you would happily take an older batsman with sound technique but zero modern batting know how, many of our fans seem to be poisoned with this including some family members who I have to disown sadly for the movement

Ok so champions trophy is slightly different to T20's where the next World Cup is still a couple of years away.

Sharjeel does look unfit and slow in the field, this will impact him more in the longer format BUT a case for 50 over cricket can be made but then we're comparing him to existing players that play in different positions and the average vs strike rate argument changes a little

 

[shaz619]

l

I'm just highlighting my own experience...

It clearly plays a party otherwise guys like Rydu, Bell, even Tanvir Ahmed and Amin would have played a lot more for their countries in T20's, tab it as a top order hitter

Going off your experiences I am recalling my own now and while we would naturally score the runs, I think with proper slogging technique and a bottom hand we ought to do better, classical batting to loft doesn’t maximise the returns

 

[shaz619]

Ok so champions trophy is slightly different to T20's where the next World Cup is still a couple of years away.

Sharjeel does look unfit and slow in the field, this will impact him more in the longer format BUT a case for 50 over cricket can be made but then we're comparing him to existing players that play in different positions and the average vs strike rate argument changes a little

We will see what the situation is then, but I think if they give him a consistent run and long rope, he would then force his selection in other forms to whether they like it or not. I watched him in the field live and I actually thought he did a great job yesterday, others were not even trying.

As for the T20 argument today, would I take him over Babar and Rizwan, after how they have destroyed the Pakistan team and humiliated the nation despite such a long run, why wouldn’t I? they still don’t know what the purpose of being an opener is in T20’s and quit when under the pump

 

[IMMY69]

l


Going off your experiences I am recalling my own now and while we would naturally score the runs, I think with proper slogging technique and a bottom hand we ought to do better, classical batting to loft doesn’t maximise the returns

You should have seen me bat then

 

[IMMY69]

We will see what the situation is then, but I think if they give him a consistent run and long rope, he would then force his selection in other forms to whether they like it or not. I watched him in the field live and I actually thought he did a great job yesterday, others were not even trying.

As for the T20 argument today, would I take him over Babar and Rizwan, after how they have destroyed the Pakistan team and humiliated the nation despite such a long run, why wouldn’t I? they still don’t know what the purpose of being an opener is in T20’s and quit when under the pump

Babar/Rizwan should not be in the discussion especially as openers

 

[shaz619]

Anyone who has witnessed England’s rise in LOI’s and also played club cricket in England understand the change needed in Pakistan, it needs to start right from the bottom my lo a club has more 360 players then the international Pak WC T20 team, it wont fix the wider issues right away but we can start by changing the culture in the national team by maximising the PP and not premeditating the sort of totals we want to achieve, England use to do this and lost to teams like Bangladesh

 

[shortbread]

Anyone who has witnessed England’s rise in LOI’s and also played club cricket in England understand the change needed in Pakistan, it needs to start right from the bottom my lo a club has more 360 players then the international Pak WC T20 team, it wont fix the wider issues right away but we can start by changing the culture in the national team by maximising the PP and not premeditating the sort of totals we want to achieve, England use to do this and lost to teams like Bangladesh

But that's a lot of hard work, investment, pain etc.... nope PCB like everything else in the country prefers quick fix solutions. It doesn't necessarily need to resolve the issue, but simply needs to create an illusion that it's a possible solution. When it fails, jump to the next quick fix.

Long term planning and lasting solutions needs intelligence and discipline, both are severely lacking everywhere.

 

[Rana]

But that's a lot of hard work, investment, pain etc.... nope PCB like everything else in the country prefers quick fix solutions. It doesn't necessarily need to resolve the issue, but simply needs to create an illusion that it's a possible solution. When it fails, jump to the next quick fix.

Long term planning and lasting solutions needs intelligence and discipline, both are severely lacking everywhere.

Let Sharjeel and Fakhar be the long term fix for T20s, let them stay for a bit. You will see if this creates a culture of the next breed of youngsters coming through wanting to bat fearlessly up front.

 

[Emaan123]

Unexplained

 

[Emaan123]

Bring back Sharjeel? Debatable. What do you guys think?

 

[FearlessRoar]

Bring back Sharjeel? Debatable. What do you guys think?

No, need to support youngsters like Huraira now

 

[mominsaigol]

No, need to support youngsters like Huraira now

Huraira is a test player? You want Huraira in t20 and odi?

Sharjeel's replacement in odi and t20 should be shabzada farhan? Or any new upcoming batter that feels he can play as an opener according to modern standards? (Pakistan tried saim ayub but welp, that failed miserably)

 

[usman.sandhu]

Sharjeel Khan, a tainted player, shame on us for suggesting to bring him back

Has no skills, no temperament, no mental strength, poor performances every where he goes..

Why would you want him back on the team? Haven't we suffered enough? Or have we started enjoying this humiliation on the international stage?

 

[FearlessRoar]

Huraira is a test player? You want Huraira in t20 and odi?

Sharjeel's replacement in odi and t20 should be shabzada farhan? Or any new upcoming batter that feels he can play as an opener according to modern standards? (Pakistan tried saim ayub but welp, that failed miserably)

Huraira can be replacement for Sharjeel in ODIs and Test. Sharjeel was also playing Test cricket for Pakistan. in T20is we already have Fakhar Zaman in replacement of Sharjeel. And in case of Huraira, after playing 10 Tests he can imply his skills in T20is too

 

[mominsaigol]

Huraira can be replacement for Sharjeel in ODIs and Test. Sharjeel was also playing Test cricket for Pakistan. in T20is we already have Fakhar Zaman in replacement of Sharjeel. And in case of Huraira, after playing 10 Tests he can imply his skills in T20is too

Huraira's performance in odi and t20 have been nothing special, in fact in t20 it's been atrocious

 

[Rana]

Huraira's performance in odi and t20 have been nothing special, in fact in t20 it's been atrocious

It’s the mindset bro

Until we don’t get out of this “I would prefer Haseebullah, Hurraira, Shafique over Sharjeel” mindset…these guys will continue to go back to square 1 after every other game.

The right kind of player for the role. That’s what you need.

 

[FearlessRoar]

It’s the mindset bro

Until we don’t get out of this “I would prefer Haseebullah, Hurraira, Shafique over Sharjeel” mindset…these guys will continue to go back to square 1 after every other game.

The right kind of player for the role. That’s what you need.

What was Sharjeel's performance in Legends league semi and final?

 

[Rana]

What was Sharjeel's performance in Legends league semi and final?

I don’t know, what was Hurraira’s T20 performance anywhere?

 

[FearlessRoar]

I don’t know, what was Hurraira’s T20 performance anywhere?

But we are talking about Sharjeel here, Huraira is the future chapter

 

[Rana]

But we are talking about Sharjeel here, Huraira is the future chapter

Let’s see it happen first.

-T20 performances
-Powerplay blitz
-40 ball tons
-lacing pacers (especially express pacers)

I will be the first one to tell you Huraira or any new chapter is the opener you need.

 

[gazza619]

What was Sharjeel's performance in Legends league semi and final?

the only two bowlers who had any sort of international quality still left in them were Steyn and Tahir. The beautiful mindset Sharjeel struggled to even defend properly against them.

Then the high mindset Sharjeel failed in the crunch semi-final and final.

Wow did you see the mindset.

 

[IMMY69]

Let’s see it happen first.

-T20 performances
-Powerplay blitz
-40 ball tons
-lacing pacers (especially express pacers)

I will be the first one to tell you Huraira or any new chapter is the opener you need.

You said "let's see it happen first" in reply to a youngster being selected ahead of Sharjeel.,,

Mate come on...

 

[Rana]

You said "let's see it happen first" in reply to a youngster being selected ahead of Sharjeel.,,

Mate come on...

So he gets the nod ahead of Sharjeel because he is young but incompetent for the role?

 

[mominsaigol]

But we are talking about Sharjeel here, Huraira is the future chapter

Bro I don't mind people advocating for new blood, I agree.

But the new blood needs to be attacking cricketers like shabzada farhan. Or heck I'd even take Abdullah shafiq or saim ayub as even though ABD isn't suited for t20 and Saim is failing, both have shown the intent to improve and play attacking cricket in a format where attacking cricket is desperately needed.

Hurraira is a test batsmen who will not succeed in any other format.

Only player I've seen in recent times who've been test players but have adjusted their game for the modern era is saud shakeel who's developed his six hitting game and has become more free flow overtime

I'd even take saud shakeel over hurraira since ik he can develop a t20 game as well.

But please not hurraira, theirs nothing special about him in the whoteball format. I'd be happy if he replaces shan masood in test but that's about it.

Even then I'd rather go for someone like omair bin yousaf over hurraira.

 

[FearlessRoar]

@Rana How much more hype does Sharjeel Khan need? He fell for a golden duck (0 off 1 ball) playing for Durban Wolves, bowled by Aftab Alam against Harare Bolts in the Zim Afro T10 2024

 

[Rana]

@Rana How much more hype does Sharjeel Khan need? He fell for a golden duck (0 off 1 ball) playing for Durban Wolves, bowled by Aftab Alam against Harare Bolts in the Zim Afro T10 2024

What should they do now? Replace him with Azaan Awais? Or Abdul Rohan Bangalzai? Or Bismillah khan? Or Abdullah Shafique? Or Imam ul Haq?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Sharjeel Khan today made 29(15) while playing for Durban Wolves against Joburg Bangla Tigers. His side lost the match by 8 wickets.

 

[ads101]

Get fit and get his PSL spot back and perform and then we can consider him.

 

[Aami]

Yes ... he has a place in WWF with Azam Khan as his side kick.

 

[Rana]

Get fit and get his PSL spot back and perform and then we can consider him.

How about score 5x50s at 110 sr to get into the national side?

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Get fit and get his PSL spot back and perform and then we can consider him.

I m fine with his current fitness if he can score runs because I dont see any other fully fit players in the Pakistan team.... so why put him under this scrutiny when fitness is no longer a selection criterion for Pakistan?

 

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I m fine with his current fitness if he can score runs because I dont see any other fully fit players in the Pakistan team.... so why put him under this scrutiny when fitness is no longer a selection criterion for Pakistan?

The guy is 35 years old. He was unfit before the fixing, he’s even worse now and can’t pass the fitness test. The others may be bad but are much better bar Azam. Who got exposed due to fitness.

The players that perform at an old age are guys who take fitness seriously. He is 35 now.

He also hasn’t performed at the highest level in domestic. Failing PSL multiple times in a row and now dropped entirely. Failing in foreign leagues on top. It’s a shame he didn’t get to play this cup, we would have had a better picture as most of our national players are actually playing.

There’s just not much point bringing back a 35 year old, unfit fixer. I don’t know how many years you get even if he somehow performs. He had the opportunity to do well in PSL and earn the recall before but he didn’t do it. That is the main reason this guy is out of favour. We were ready to accept a fixer back. But he was expected to perform instantly given his age internationally and he didn’t. He didn’t even bother to fix his fitness, which if he was really desperate he should have been working on when banned for fixing.

All in all it’s time to move on from this guy. I hope he gets picked next PSL and deserves to, so he can really push for a place though.

But have little sympathy for a guy who fixed and doesn’t bother with fitness. I still can’t believe the man fixed after he saw what happened to the trio.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

The guy is 35 years old. He was unfit before the fixing, he’s even worse now and can’t pass the fitness test. The others may be bad but are much better bar Azam. Who got exposed due to fitness.

The players that perform at an old age are guys who take fitness seriously. He is 35 now.

He also hasn’t performed at the highest level in domestic. Failing PSL multiple times in a row and now dropped entirely. Failing in foreign leagues on top. It’s a shame he didn’t get to play this cup, we would have had a better picture as most of our national players are actually playing.

There’s just not much point bringing back a 35 year old, unfit fixer. I don’t know how many years you get even if he somehow performs. He had the opportunity to do well in PSL and earn the recall before but he didn’t do it. That is the main reason this guy is out of favour. We were ready to accept a fixer back. But he was expected to perform instantly given his age internationally and he didn’t. He didn’t even bother to fix his fitness, which if he was really desperate he should have been working on when banned for fixing.

All in all it’s time to move on from this guy. I hope he gets picked next PSL and deserves to, so he can really push for a place though.

But have little sympathy for a guy who fixed and doesn’t bother with fitness. I still can’t believe the man fixed after he saw what happened to the trio.

Yes age is definitely a concern now and I’m also not in favor of calling him back to the team. But as I said scrutinizing him only for his fitness isn’t fair because u know our fitness standars.

He has passed his prime but players like Sharjeel should have been given more chances as they play with their heart and without fear.

and for fixing bhai Amir also made a comeback and played cricket on his terms so why not Sharjeel who has also served the punishment.

 

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Yes age is definitely a concern now and I’m also not in favor of calling him back to the team. But as I said scrutinizing him only for his fitness isn’t fair because u know our fitness standars.

He has passed his prime but players like Sharjeel should have been given more chances as they play with their heart and without fear.

and for fixing bhai Amir also made a comeback and played cricket on his terms so why not Sharjeel who has also served the punishment.

Sharjeel’s was worse. Amir was younger. Sharjeel already had warning multiple times after the trio. He must have sat through seminars against the dangers of fixing. He did it when they had access to PSL so was making good money on top of internationals. The trio didn’t have PSL.

Did it in PSL which is Pakistan’s own league. Could have damaged the reputation of the league and deterred foreign players. Which is why England was so angry at Kaneria and called for him to banned from cricket completely which PCB complied. They were fine with Amir for 5 years as he didn’t bring fixing into their domestic structure. It actually hurts Pakistan more fixing in PSL. Instead we were so lenient on Sharjeel getting him reduced to a 2.5 year ban.

Sharjeel didn’t bother to get back in fitness in the 2.5 years. That is not a long break and he could have used that time productively. He didn’t.

Khalid latif fixed as well as Sharjeel in the same match. Totally discarded. It’s because Sharjeel was talented he got leniency.

And lastly Sharjeel did get an international comeback. As well as PSL chances. Difference between Amir and Sharjeel is he didn’t instantly perform. Amir basically did. It’s perhaps a little unreasonable to expect a batsman to instantly perform in internationals, but Sharjeel didn’t even do it in PSL over multiple seasons. Amir did. Yes it’s wrong PCB has a you owe me mentality to fixers. But Amir faced similar pressure.

Sharjeel was the worst one. And got the most lenient sentence. If it weren’t for the hype/talent he would have faced similar treatment to latif. And even then if he had simply performed regularly in PSL he’d have more international chances anyway.

 

[Kianig89]

Misbah forced to defend Sharjeel selection, insists fitness not compromised

The left-handed opener has been picked for the T20I leg of the South Africa and Zimbabwe tours

www.espncricinfo.com

Dodge the bullet now, Misbah ul Haq is considered a punching bag for advocating Rizwan etc but here he shamelessly defended a crook and compromised on his principles and selected a convict.

@Rana, time for some retrospection

 

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Misbah forced to defend Sharjeel selection, insists fitness not compromised

The left-handed opener has been picked for the T20I leg of the South Africa and Zimbabwe tours

www.espncricinfo.com

Dodge the bullet now, Misbah ul Haq is considered a punching bag for advocating Rizwan etc but here he shamelessly defended a crook and compromised on his principles and selected a convict.

@Rana, time for some retrospection

On your title it says forced to defend?

If he's being forced while rizwan on the other hand is a genuine advocation then I don't even know what you're arguing?

 

[Kianig89]

On your title it says forced to defend?

If he's being forced while rizwan on the other hand is a genuine advocation then I don't even know what you're arguing?

Have you even read what is written inside , Misbah compromised on sharjeel fitness and selected him, when asked tough questions Misbah had no choice and was forced to defend

 

[Varun]

On your title it says forced to defend?

If he's being forced while rizwan on the other hand is a genuine advocation then I don't even know what you're arguing?

Why don't you want to see good quality batsmen / bowlers in the Pakistani team?

The rest of the world has produced Tendulkar/Ponting/Lara/Warne/McGrath/Sangakkara, you yourself have produced Imran/Wasim/Inzamam etc. - so why do you want no-name convict Sharjeel Khan so bad?

 

[mominsaigol]

Why don't you want to see good quality batsmen / bowlers in the Pakistani team?

The rest of the world has produced Tendulkar/Ponting/Lara/Warne/McGrath/Sangakkara, you yourself have produced Imran/Wasim/Inzamam etc. - so why do you want no-name convict Sharjeel Khan so bad?

Khena kya cha rahei ho?

Which batsmen from Pakistan do you see becoming Tendulkar, Pointing, Lara, Sanga?

Rizwan?

 

[mominsaigol]

Have you even read what is written inside , Misbah compromised on sharjeel fitness and selected him, when asked tough questions Misbah had no choice and was forced to defend

Misbah compromised on sharjeel fitness and selected him

So? Whats your point?

 

[Varun]

Khena kya cha rahei ho?

Which batsmen from Pakistan do you see becoming Tendulkar, Pointing, Lara, Sanga?

Rizwan?

To start with, "not Sharjeel". But you seem to want him bad - why?

 

[mominsaigol]

To start with, "not Sharjeel". But you seem to want him bad - why?

Firstly, don't say you yourself. I haven't produced anyone lol.

Secondly answer what you claimed. From Pakistan which batsmen will become tenda, pointing, lara etc?

 

[Varun]

Secondly answer what you claimed. From Pakistan which batsmen will become tenda, pointing, lara etc?

I already prodded you in the right direction: Not Sharjeel Khan. Not Umar Akmal. Not Nasir Jamshed. Not Azam Khan.

I conclude that Pakistan cricket's overall mediocrity since ~2007 has produced a set of fans, who can't see a bad cricketer for being a bad cricketer. In fact, many of the names listed will themselves agree that they aren't/weren't in it just for the pleasure of representing their country.