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[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Babar Azam’s failures against India

He is a pretty good batsman and the best Pakistanis have had in the last couple of decades. But he is not as good as his fans make him out to be. He is always a rung below Kohli, Tendulkar, Ponting, Lara, etc. But he will still end up as one of the best in pakistan's history
 
TeamPak95 said:
If Babar is to be a genuine, GENUINE, legend of the game, at the very least he needs to be putting up this kind of performance and then some.
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Babar won you guys your first-ever WC game against India.

I think you can give your best-ever batter (likely to end as an all-time) some leeway.
 
Babar is 28 going on 29. When Kohli was around this age, he had already accomplished things like being man of the tournament in the 2014 and 2016 World T20, scoring 4 test hundreds in Australia against an Aussie attack that was led by a rampaging Mitchell Johnson that tore up England the year before (albeit India losing the test series, but still), and being globally known as the batsman who is the linchpin of India successfully chasing in ODIs.

On the other hand, Babar playing and scoring against mainly minnows and B/C teams isn't his fault at all (blame PCB for not being able to organize more series against more quality oppositions) but so far in his career his major highlights include a match-winning hundred vs NZ in the 2019 WC and a match saving 196 vs Australia in the 2nd test in 2022. Both were quality knocks, but as far as comparisons are concerned, as it stands currently, you are clinically insane if you genuinely think that Babar is on par with Kohli, they are ABSOLUTELY NOT.

If Babar is to be even close to Kohli, some of the things he needs is to put up those match-winning hundreds against India and score heavy runs against SENA in SENA against full-strength bowling. Was hoping that from him today vs India but unfortunately it wasn't to be. Man, how a match-winning hundred vs India in this upcoming WC, in Ahmedabad, in a couldron of Indian spectators, will do him wonders.
 
Mamoon said:
Thank you. It doesn’t talked about enough. It is also one of the reasons why Indians don’t rate him that highly - he is not good enough against them.
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I don't care about his stats but not just against India, he has not scored enough runs gainst the big boys in their own backyard for me to rate him as one of the best in the world, he is not. Coming world cup will define his legacy.
 
Cricfan4eva said:
Babar won you guys your first-ever WC game against India.

I think you can give your best-ever batter (likely to end as an all-time) some leeway.
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Made a post before reading this, forgot to mention that. Definitely a great, match-winning innings to register Pakistan their first WC win vs India.

I don't doubt Babar's greatness as a batsman. As a fan, I am greatful that my team has a batsman as wonderfully talented as Babar. I'm just tired of folks making the comparisons with Kohli. Like people need to actually look at their resumes from when Kohli was Babar's age and realize that, so far, Babar is nowhere near comparable to Kohli.
 
Saj said:
Part and parcel of being a professional sportsman in the modern day.

If he can't cope with the travel then don't play BPL, SLPL and other leagues.
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Rotation policy is the only way to deal with this.
 
Babar and his mate Rizwan are king of soft runs. They also have created a pathetic team culture as well. The perfromances (lack of) by Shadab are telling. He keeps getting selected in the playing 11 by Babar.
 
saeedhk said:
Babar lacks mental toughness, match awareness and he is unable to make it count when the chips are down.
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The thing is that Babar is the best batsman in Pakistan right now. The issue starts when people start comparing him with world level greats like Lara , Kohli , tendulkar etc.

But whatever you criticize , You cannot drop babar from any format ? Can you ? Pakistan lacks stable sensible batsmen. Most batsmen in pakistan either block or hit out , they refuse to learn . If players themselves are not interested or feel hurt when losing , no one can do anything for them.

To be best , you need to be able to beat best. You need to give extra effort on the field as well as off the field. Look at how Kohli trains , what is his diet , how much he is sacrificing , can Pakistan batsmen do even 50 % of that effort?

Pakistan knew from last 4 years they lack specialist spinners , what have they done? First it was Hafeez and Malik , then shadab , Nawaz , Salman , Iftikhar !!! This is the mindset.
 
To be fair it was a mammoth total, even if Babar scored a 100, I don't think Pakistan would have won. Part and parcel of the game, you win some you lose some. Babar is currently the best batsmen from the subcontinent imo....
 
Romali_rotti said:
To be fair it was a mammoth total, even if Babar scored a 100, I don't think Pakistan would have won. Part and parcel of the game, you win some you lose some. Babar is currently the best batsmen from the subcontinent imo....
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But Babar was the one who opted to bowl first. Well get a hundred at least and show that you are on par with Kohli and KL
 
Babar will easily finish as the country's greatest ever ODI batter statistically, but a Pakistan cricketer's legacy is ultimately cemented by 2 things: performances in big tournaments, and performances against India. This is what will stick in people's minds in years to come, no matter how many bilateral centuries he scores.

His stats against India are a blot on his otherwise perfect record. He is in the prime of his career, he's the captain and talisman of the side. The next couple of months are massive. This is it now, where he sinks or swims with the greats. Based on today the signs are not good.
 
Swashbuckler said:
Rare Pak great who has a poor record against India. Zaheer Abbas, Miandad, Anwar, Inzi, Moyo, Younis all did well against India, Majid Khan was a rare exception. But Indian bowling has improved now, not the trundler army the previous gen had to go up against.
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All those greats had to face weak Indian attacks though. Current one is strong so there is that I suppose.

You know who has a good record vs india? Fakhar.
 
Firebat said:
Babar will easily finish as the country's greatest ever ODI batter statistically, but a Pakistan cricketer's legacy is ultimately cemented by 2 things: performances in big tournaments, and performances against India. This is what will stick in people's minds in years to come, no matter how many bilateral centuries he scores.

His stats against India are a blot on his otherwise perfect record. He is in the prime of his career, he's the captain and talisman of the side. The next couple of months are massive. This is it now, where he sinks or swims with the greats. Based on today the signs are not good.
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If babar helps us win the world cup, why would gis stat vs india matter?
 
Most disappointing part is that in his 6 inns thrice Babar has gotten starts (40+ odd) and still he has failed to make a substantial score forget match winning/match turning.

Kohli in his first 7 ODI inns against Pakistan had only 1 score above 30, but that was the legendary Asia cup 183 where he tamed Ajmal.

Rohit in his first 7 inns vs Pak scored 3 small fifties (2 in losing cause and then 68 in the Kohli 183 game) coming in middle order which was pretty ok for where he was in his career at the time.

Failures are part and parcel of batting and it doesn't help that Babar doesn't get a full series vs India but if he is to define his legacy in Pak batting pantheon he has to do something special against India and time is running out.
 
Mamoon said:
He cannot handle Pakistan-India matches pressure.

5 ODIs, average 31
4 T20Is, average 30

He hasn’t played Tests against them but he is lucky because Ashwin and Jadeja would run rings around him. He is weak against spin.

9 innings, 1 half-century. It is not a coincidence.

It is a bottle-job. He is Pakistan’s best batsman but India have reduced him to mediocrity. All great Pakistani batsman were good against India but he is not following their footsteps.

Also his deluded fans who compare him to Kohli need to realize that he hasn’t been able to have 1% the impact Kohli has had on Pakistan-India matches.

Can Babar Azam improve his record against India over his career or will this fixture remain his Achilles’ Heel?

If he he continues to bottle it, will it impact his status and legacy?
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Good thread but you were kind to him as You left out his strike rate and btw the odi avg is now just 28 at a sr of 72 v ind with a total 168 runs zero 50s in 7 odis !!!

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Compare that to Kohli who has twice the avg 4 times as many runs s Babar , sr of 100 and 3 centuries + 2 50s.

And most Pakistanis say they have far better bowlers than India!!

There is just a day and night difference.

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Kholi is no doubt superior to babar.

Babar isn't a bad batsmen, he's good, but he's on the level of hashim amla, Joe root, Steve Smith, Mohammed yousaf etc, Aka players who tend to accumulate and occasionally utilise their 4th gear to win.

But with the occasional single handedly winning games once in a blue moon, They score soft runs and require hand holding from players around them like amla required ab de devillers and jack kallis hand holding normally.

People literally compare kholi to players like ab de devillers, Sachin Tendulkar, Ricky Pointing, Kunar Sangakara, Viv Richards etc.

Not saying kholi is superior but the fact that people compare kholi to Sachin at all is a testament to how great kholi truly is. With the exception of biased fans who compare Babar to Bradman, Most comparisons for Babar are usually with players such as amla, or yousaf. Good accumulators, occasionally will single handedly win you games, but normally require hand holding and except others to bat around them while they stat pad.
 
mominsaigol said:
Kholi is no doubt superior to babar.

Babar isn't a bad batsmen, he's good, but he's on the level of hashim amla, Joe root, Steve Smith, Mohammed yousaf etc, Aka players who tend to accumulate and occasionally utilise their 4th gear to win.

But with the occasional single handedly winning games once in a blue moon, They score soft runs and require hand holding from players around them like amla required ab de devillers and jack kallis hand holding normally.

People literally compare kholi to players like ab de devillers, Sachin Tendulkar, Ricky Pointing, Kunar Sangakara, Viv Richards etc.

Not saying kholi is superior but the fact that people compare kholi to Sachin at all is a testament to how great kholi truly is. With the exception of biased fans who compare Babar to Bradman, Most comparisons for Babar are usually with players such as amla, or yousaf. Good accumulators, occasionally will single handedly win you games, but normally require hand holding and except others to bat around them while they stat pad.
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Amla, Root, Smith and Yousuf are far better than Babar in sporting pitches.
 
I have said it millions of times that all good bowlers know the weakness of Babar. Any ball pitching on the off-stump and swinging in can dismantle Babar's stumps; he is extremely vulnerable in that area.

I have seen Rashid getting him out through that channel several times.
 
Saj said:
Part and parcel of being a professional sportsman in the modern day.

If he can't cope with the travel then don't play BPL, SLPL and other leagues.
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not really.

This is a poorly arrange tournament. He is travelling from one country to another on the same night of the match. After playing a match you need rest. ODI games are schduled as such that there is one day rest, one day travelling and one day training.

Plus, he is landing in Lahore to play in Multan. From Lahore to Multan its a 4-5 hour drive.

The guy is probably living out of a suitcase.
 
Shafi said:
Amla, Root, Smith and Yousuf are far better than Babar in sporting pitches.
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I'm not comparing and contrasting as to who is better.

The point that I'm making isn't babar vs Root or Kholi vs Viv richards.

I'm saying that babar is basically similar to the caliber of Amla and Root.

Root in 2019 was a great player for England at no 3, but he required hand holding, he needed Roy, Bairstow, Eoin Morgan and butler to pretty much smash and score 400+ while he just anchored in his merry way, he was basically support and gave them the license to play freely since they didn't have to worry about his wicket falling anytime soon. Babar is of the same caliber, he expects fakhar, rizwan, and pur lower bits and pieces to strike and keep up with the run rate while he can slowly slowly get his singles for his milestone 100.

Kholi on the other hand is put in the limelight to Sachin, viv Richards, pointing, kumar Sangakara, AB de devillers, aka players who don't need hand holding, their all rounders, Can accumulate, can switch to 4th and 5th gear, can dominate the bowling and can single handedly win you games by themselves.

How many games has babar dominated? 3 t20 centuries and 6 tines against West indies and a c string aus side.

Otherwise his centuries are just contributions while others bat around him, the mz 2019 game he didn't dominate, he stuck in their and made his way through. Has babar ever made 350 scores look like a walk in the park like kholi or ab de devillers or pointing have on dozens of dozens of occasions? Nope, only once against c string aus.

That's the analogy I'm making basically. Babar, amla, Root don't possess the ability to outright dominate the bowling consistently like devillers, kholi, viv Richards, Sachin etc could. Kholi is in the lime light of these guys, babar doesn't come close.e
 
Shafi said:
Babar is an upgrade version of Azhar Ali because he can play pace but against spin he is really weak. But both are impact less in big matches.
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Azhar Ali was not particularly impressive in ODIs, and even in Test matches, he often appeared stuck at the crease, relying heavily on the influence of greats like Younis Khan and Misbah-ul-Haq.

Babar Azam, on the other hand, is in a league of his own. I still remember Ricky Ponting's comment about Babar, where he suggested that Babar has the potential to be anything. By this statement, Ponting meant that Babar possesses immense talent, but given the challenges of Pakistani cricketing structure, his path could lead him to become either a great batsman or just an average one on the world stage.
 
Shafi said:
Babar is an upgrade version of Azhar Ali because he can play pace but against spin he is really weak. But both are impact less in big matches.
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Babar is not an upgrade of azhar Ali, that's imam ul haq.

Babar is an amazing batsmen and is world class, the problem is people on this forumn don't find a middle ground.

They either compare babar as the next coming of Bradman or just shove him as medicore bat.

Babar is a very very good batsmen but he is not on kholi's caliber. Kholi's caliber is compared to All time greats like Sachin or pointing or viv Richards.

Babar caliber is compared to mostly 2nd string greats such as amla. Honestly babar is more like an improved version of KL Rahul lol
 
mominsaigol said:
I'm not comparing and contrasting as to who is better.

The point that I'm making isn't babar vs Root or Kholi vs Viv richards.

I'm saying that babar is basically similar to the caliber of Amla and Root.

Root in 2019 was a great player for England at no 3, but he required hand holding, he needed Roy, Bairstow, Eoin Morgan and butler to pretty much smash and score 400+ while he just anchored in his merry way, he was basically support and gave them the license to play freely since they didn't have to worry about his wicket falling anytime soon. Babar is of the same caliber, he expects fakhar, rizwan, and pur lower bits and pieces to strike and keep up with the run rate while he can slowly slowly get his singles for his milestone 100.

Kholi on the other hand is put in the limelight to Sachin, viv Richards, pointing, kumar Sangakara, AB de devillers, aka players who don't need hand holding, their all rounders, Can accumulate, can switch to 4th and 5th gear, can dominate the bowling and can single handedly win you games by themselves.

How many games has babar dominated? 3 t20 centuries and 6 tines against West indies and a c string aus side.

Otherwise his centuries are just contributions while others bat around him, the mz 2019 game he didn't dominate, he stuck in their and made his way through. Has babar ever made 350 scores look like a walk in the park like kholi or ab de devillers or pointing have on dozens of dozens of occasions? Nope, only once against c string aus.

That's the analogy I'm making basically. Babar, amla, Root don't possess the ability to outright dominate the bowling consistently like devillers, kholi, viv Richards, Sachin etc could. Kholi is in the lime light of these guys, babar doesn't come close.e
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Sangakara doesn't belong with that elite class of legends you mentioned, not in odi cricket atleast. If somebody has seen enough cricket for minimum 25/30 years he will never put Sanga on the same bracket with Viv,Ponting, Lara,Sachin, AB or Virat. For atleast 75% of his career he too was a soft scorer, an accumulator. Jayasuria was the real match winner, the impact player of that unit & after he was finished around 09 Dilshan took the batton from him. Sanga almost never had to attack upfront because he had these ultra aggressive players to carry the bulk. Not to mention he was lucky to play along proper batsmen like Aravinda & Jayawardhane who were also match winners on their own right. You take away those 4 consecutive wc hundreds from his career & you will see he was hardly an impact player. But ofcourse an absolute run machine, no doubt about that.
You mentioned Smith, who happens to have a couple of 60/70 balls hundreds against India. Not to forget his legendary run in 15 wc. Babar can simply dream about those achievements.
Finally Yousuf. Even If I discard his countless knocks in bilateral contests, he has played 3 match winning knocks against in India in major tournaments. (00 asia cup, 04 & 09 ct), specially the second one was a gem of a knock on a very difficult pitch . Here you have Babar who can't even play one proper knock.
I don't mean to knock on your post, as I mostly agree with your points. Just wanted to show you some different perspectives regarding other legends. It was a very good post btw.
 
VForVendetta said:
Sangakara doesn't belong with that elite class of legends you mentioned, not in odi cricket atleast. If somebody has seen enough cricket for minimum 25/30 years he will never put Sanga on the same bracket with Viv,Ponting, Lara,Sachin, AB or Virat. For atleast 75% of his career he too was a soft scorer, an accumulator. Jayasuria was the real match winner, the impact player of that unit & after he was finished around 09 Dilshan took the batton from him. Sanga almost never had to attack upfront because he had these ultra aggressive players to carry the bulk. Not to mention he was lucky to play along proper batsmen like Aravinda & Jayawardhane who were also match winners on their own right. You take away those 4 consecutive wc hundreds from his career & you will see he was hardly an impact player. But ofcourse an absolute run machine, no doubt about that.
You mentioned Smith, who happens to have a couple of 60/70 balls hundreds against India. Not to forget his legendary run in 15 wc. Babar can simply dream about those achievements.
Finally Yousuf. Even If I discard his countless knocks in bilateral contests, he has played 3 match winning knocks against in India in major tournaments. (00 asia cup, 04 & 09 ct), specially the second one was a gem of a knock on a very difficult pitch . Here you have Babar who can't even play one proper knock.
I don't mean to knock on your post, as I mostly agree with your points. Just wanted to show you some different perspectives regarding other legends. It was a very good post btw.
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No I agree with you mostly as well. Your points are fair.
 
Seems his form could be effecting him - not happy with this fan, not sure what was said

 
Wasim Akram not happy with the graphic shown on TV during the game:


"You guys are making these stats up. What? Babar is the No. 1 batter in the world. I mean, come on guys. Give him a little appreciation. Make it 3 percent at least. It will be a great battle. One of the top bowlers in world cricket against the No. 1 batter in the world, who apparently has just 2 percent chance against him."

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MenInG said:
Wasim Akram not happy with the graphic shown on TV during the game:


"You guys are making these stats up. What? Babar is the No. 1 batter in the world. I mean, come on guys. Give him a little appreciation. Make it 3 percent at least. It will be a great battle. One of the top bowlers in world cricket against the No. 1 batter in the world, who apparently has just 2 percent chance against him."

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Nonsense coverage from Star Sports
 
Cricket Warrior said:
have u seen the swing which bumrah was getting in the air? every batsman could have been adopted diffensive aproach against such deliveries.
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No problem is, Babar is not even moving his feet .All the time commentators say to move feet and negate the swing.just like Inji, just go on front foot whatever happens .
 
Bumrah owns Babar. Our captain is only good against Bangladesh, Afghanistan and Kenya. His foot movement is so poor leaving him an ideal candidate for being caught behind. Whenever the ball swings a bit this guy has no clue what to do.
 
I think the “they cannot play him” flex should be used by Indian media in reference to Babar’s ordinary record against India.

Just one 50+ score in so many games is embarrassing to say the least.

@heddie19 do you think Babar will ever stop being a non-factor in Pakistan vs India matches?
 
Mamoon said:
I think the “they cannot play him” flex should be used by Indian media in reference to Babar’s ordinary record against India.

Just one 50+ score in so many games is embarrassing to say the least.

@heddie19 do you think Babar will ever stop being a non-factor in Pakistan vs India matches?
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You mean ‘he should not play them?’ For Babar?
 
Rana said:
You mean ‘he should not play them?’ For Babar?
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Sorry, I meant “he cannot play them”.

Indian media needs to play this narrative in the build up to the World Cup game. Show his mediocre record against India in adverts etc.

Their journalists should keep mentioning this point. Put more pressure on Babar.

Considering how soft he is, he won’t be able to use it as a motivation and respond with the bat, he will only become more likely to fail in that big game.
 
Mamoon said:
I think the “they cannot play him” flex should be used by Indian media in reference to Babar’s ordinary record against India.

Just one 50+ score in so many games is embarrassing to say the least.

@heddie19 do you think Babar will ever stop being a non-factor in Pakistan vs India matches?
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This is true, his stats against India are not upto the mark in both formats. I was hoping that we win last night so that he can have another chance against India (which we rarely play against) I am hoping for big innings from him in Ahmedabad now regardless of the match's result. For his caliber, he should be averaging 45+ vs India at least in ODIs with a couple of match winning knocks which I really hope he does before he hangs up his bat. Otherwise, this thing will surely go against him "Bohut bara player tha lekin india k against nai chalta tha"
 
Mamoon said:
Sorry, I meant “he cannot play them”.

Indian media needs to play this narrative in the build up to the World Cup game. Show his mediocre record against India in adverts etc.

Their journalists should keep mentioning this point. Put more pressure on Babar.

Considering how soft he is, he won’t be able to use it as a motivation and respond with the bat, he will only become more likely to fail in that big game.
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Matlab whether he succeeds or fails, he is the limelight of the Cricket fraternity now that itself is a huge compliment for a player with a timid mental capabilities as Mamoon and rana claims. :)


From Babar Azam to Pakistan Azam to now Cricket Azam.
 
heddie19 said:
Matlab whether he succeeds or fails, he is the limelight of the Cricket fraternity now that itself is a huge compliment for a player with a timid mental capabilities as Mamoon and rana claims. :)


From Babar Azam to Pakistan Azam to now Cricket Azam.
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India have made mincemeat of Shaheen numerous times. In fact, they have succeeded against him more times than they have failed. They have failed twice but dominated him 4-5 times.

In spite of this, Pakistan did the “they cannot play him” drama until the future best batsman in the world Gill showed him his level just like he did at U-19 level.

Indian media is too kind not to make a bigger deal of Babar’s shambolic record vs India but they should.
 
This thread proves Babar's mental midget nature. When the pressure is on and stakes are high, he goes missing.
 
Mamoon said:
India have made mincemeat of Shaheen numerous times. In fact, they have succeeded against him more times than they have failed. They have failed twice but dominated him 4-5 times.

In spite of this, Pakistan did the “they cannot play him” drama until the future best batsman in the world Gill showed him his level just like he did at U-19 level.

Indian media is too kind not to make a bigger deal of Babar’s shambolic record vs India but they should.
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Now you're gonna bring up Shaheen's performances from Asia Cup 2018? Cut him some slack, he was 18 yo at that time.
 
heddie19 said:
Matlab whether he succeeds or fails, he is the limelight of the Cricket fraternity now that itself is a huge compliment for a player with a timid mental capabilities as Mamoon and rana claims. :)


From Babar Azam to Pakistan Azam to now Cricket Azam.
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Chal yar. Aap khush ho jao

Would be nice if our premier bat actually turns up for us against our arch rivals….just like their’s does against Pakistan all the time
 
Mamoon said:
India play Shaheen well. They will continue to play him well.

Pakistan should think about what “King” Babar needs to do to stop being a “slave” to Indian bowlers.
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They completely surrendered themselves to Shaheen twice. Those two performances from Shaheen aren't less than a match winning centuries from a batter's perspective.
 
heddie19 said:
They completely surrendered themselves to Shaheen twice. Those two performances from Shaheen aren't less than a match winning centuries from a batter's perspective.
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And they responded by making him look a like joke.

Do you think “King” Babar will make his mark in the 2023 World Cup game and do to India what Kohli has done to Pakistan numerous times?
 
Mamoon said:
And they responded by making him look a like joke.

Do you think “King” Babar will make his mark in the 2023 World Cup game and do to India what Kohli has done to Pakistan numerous times?
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Not really, the 3 T20is after that were close encounters and Shaheen was not part of 2/3. Anything can happen in sports but going with the morale of our team, it isn't likely to happen in front of 132K indian supporters.
 
heddie19 said:
Not really, the 3 T20is after that were close encounters and Shaheen was not part of 2/3. Anything can happen in sports but going with the morale of our team, it isn't likely to happen in front of 132K indian supporters.
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The best ODI batter in the world, who is heads and shoulders above everybody else, will win you at least WC match agaist your rivals bro. Have faith. :)
 
Ahmedabad pitch seems to be better suited to babar's batting style, its slow with low bounce in it and babar loves that kind of pitches so I believe a century from Babar in that match is highly on cards.
 
Devadwal said:
The way Indian batsman gave phaiinta to Shaheen in last game he is still not recovered and will show you in ahemdabad again
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Apart from the first 2-3 overs, I did not see any phainta bro. The length Shaheen bowls, he will go for runs but it comes with the territory.
 
I feel like Babar needs a match-winning hundred here vs India, regardless of whether Pakistan make the semis or not, for him to be taken wayy more seriously when it comes to his legacy. Right now his greatest innings in his career so far, in my opinion, is his match-saving 196 vs Australia.
 
Irrespective of the stats - one thing for sure is that Babar azam is the most popular Pakistani batsman in India after Saeed Anwar and shahid afridi. Dont think any other batsman has caught the imagination of the indian diaspora like babar. All the Pakistani games will be sold out mostly with babar being a big part of it. The misbah era killed all Pakistani cricket interest in india which babar rekindled. Purely based on watachability, babar puts people on seats..
 
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Farabi said:
Apart from the first 2-3 overs, I did not see any phainta bro. The length Shaheen bowls, he will go for runs but it comes with the territory.
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If you have read the game then you can understand those first 2-3 over change the tempo of whole innings.it was a statement from Indian batsman against Pakistani Pacers .
 
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Babar's "failures" are down to a tiny sample size and nothing more. He is already a far superior batsman than 99% of Pakistani and Indian batsmen throughout history.

Despite everything being against him and his team, I expect Babar to once again prove himself a better batsman than Kohli during this world cup.

If Pakistan and India played more frequently, he would boss the Indian bowlers.
 
deltexas said:
Irrespective of the stats - one thing for sure is that Babar azam is the most popular Pakistani batsman in India after Saeed Anwar and shahid afridi. Dont think any other batsman has caught the imagination of the indian diaspora like babar. All the Pakistani games will be sold out mostly with babar being a big part of it. The misbah era killed all Pakistani cricket interest in india which babar rekindled. Purely based on watachability, babar puts people on seats..
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Agree, after Inzi he is my favorite Pak batsman, including both formats. I rate Anwar slightly lower, as he didn't have a good record outside Asia in the Test. Anwar was mostly devastating against India ( alongside Jayasuriya) in Asian condition when we had probably the weakest pace bowling attack in the world.
 
How often Babar is walking into a crisis situation when Fakhar has skied one after playing and missing for 3 overs. Give Babar the platform that Kohli gets from his openers and he will be as successful too.
 
Bilal7 said:
Babar's "failures" are down to a tiny sample size and nothing more. He is already a far superior batsman than 99% of Pakistani and Indian batsmen throughout history.

Despite everything being against him and his team, I expect Babar to once again prove himself a better batsman than Kohli during this world cup.

If Pakistan and India played more frequently, he would boss the Indian bowlers.
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Already far superior than 99% Indian batsmen, throughout history!!! Please name some of these 99%
 
Let's See what he can do against India on 14 October .he can Play match winning innings as he is a class player
 
Devadwal said:
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If you have read the game then you can understand those first 2-3 over change the tempo of whole innings.it was a statement from Indian batsman against Pakistani Pacers .
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Yeah but he was deceived and got out in second spell.
India mostly feasted Shadab, Faheem Cachu. Rauf was injured and Naseem was in pain. Shaheen didn’t go for much in the death.
 
Farabi said:
Yeah but he was deceived and got out in second spell.
India mostly feasted Shadab, Faheem Cachu. Rauf was injured and Naseem was in pain. Shaheen didn’t go for much in the death.
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When he was out India were already in great position . Shaheen gave 79 runs in 10 over.
 
I will quote words of Waqar Younis , you can't be hero unless you perform at big stage and win the game for Pakistan. Food for thought for Babar Azam.
 
Bilal7 said:
The only Indian batsmen ahead of Babar are Sachin and Kohli but Babar is a better batsman than either were at his age.
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I am perfectly fine with this statement if Babar also believes this. Because for Pakistan, what matters is Babar believing he's the best and can win matches from any situation. He doesn't have to be the best, he has to believe he's the best. His confidence is the key for Pakistan in this WC.
 
i make it a point never to address or respond to trolls. The Mark Twain quote (“Never argue…”) is my go to response, or should I say non response, in such situations.

As far as the thread topic goes, Babar is highly rated in India, probably because we honestly aren’t used to rating most Pakistani batsmen (as Pakistanis didn’t rate Indian bowlers for a long time, and some don’t even now). At the same his track record against us so far is a matter of concern for him and his legacy.
 
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