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he has been a rock for south africa for a couple of years now but doesn't get the plaudits. technically and mentally strong and south africa's top order will be in tatters without him.

probably the best opener at the moment after azhar and cook.
 
Superb knock in this match. 136 runs in the 2nd innings, well over 50% of the team total, and took a very clever piece of bowling to dismiss him. Looks a very good player to me.
 
hes a very gritty player not the most talented but he always puts a price on his wicket. Definitely underrated. a guy you'd love in your Test team.

Sami Aslam if he expands his strokeplay a lil could take tips from Elgar.
 
A very underated player. Indeed he's very gusty and is strong mentally. He finds a way to see off the new ball even though his technique isn't the most eye catching. He definitely deserves more credit as he is batting in a difficult position and scoring runs versus good attacks. I'm certain he will play a 100 tests for South Africa if they play enough games by the end of Elgars career.
 
I'm sure this thread was in the making before SA's 2nd innings, right?

Yeah...

:))
 
Very good Test player - prefect opener. Doesn't look sparkling like Tamim, Dhawan or Warner, but extremely effective. He is like the left handed Azhar - not eye catching, but doing the job perfectly.
 
He has been under rated because he is not stylish , but he does his job. That is what is required from him , every Test team would want couple of batters like him .
 
By underrated, you have to define the parameters, as in either stats or impact or contributions.

I think he has been the constant opener for 3 years now, along with his rise to vice captaincy means he is not underrated by Saffers themselves, his stats are decent, he is no Graeme Smith, who averaged 50 for most of his career and led his team to a lot of victories. He already has a matchwinning century in SL, so I guess he is okay with subcontinent parameter as well. He just lacks the skill to go big after setting in. You get to see a lot of grinding 30s and 40s but afterwards he gives it away usually.

I think the likes of Brad Haddin, Hussey, Brendan Taylor, Murali Vijay, Simon Katich are/were underrated players.
 
One of the, if not the most under-rated players for sure. Along the line of Katich, Samaraweera, Thorpe, Atapattu etc.
 
His technique is pretty dodgy but he's a hard-worker and a very gritty player. Definitely underrated.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dean Elgar (South Africa) joins Desmond Haynes (West Indies) as the only batsmen to carry the bat through a completed Test innings on 3 occasions<br><br>118* v England at Durban in 2015<br>86* v India at Johannesburg in 2018<br>141* v Australia at Cape Town in 2018<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SAvAUS?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SAvAUS</a></p>— Fox Sports Lab (@FoxSportsLab) <a href="https://twitter.com/FoxSportsLab/status/977115036815470592?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Very good batsmen. He can play 100 tests and score 7K runs at an avg of 45 with 20 hundreds.
 
100 against India under tough conditions today
 
A good player. He is exposing our fraud spinners who can only bowl in Indian conditions.
 
He is like the southpaw version of Murali Vijay. Now he is 32-33? If he doesn't decline like Vijay, he will be rated very highly at the end of his career. Both him and Karunaratne are capable openers which is a rarity in the modern game, both underrated as well. Their stats don't do them justice, but they can hang in there for a long time in difficult conditions.
 
Very under rated. Not really talked about a lot. I forgot about him tbh until I saw the scorecard of this game, been very long since SA played Tests!
 
Opener Dean Elgar has expressed his interest in becoming South Africa's next Test captain, saying leadership comes naturally to him and he would think "long and hard" if approached for the job.

Du Plessis had resigned as Test captain in February and Quinton de Kock was expected to take the reins but Cricket South Africa ruled him out of the job, saying they don't want to overburden the wicketkeeper-batsman.

With a three-Test series scheduled against the West Indies in July, CSA is still figuring out the Test captaincy conundrum.

"It's definitely not an easy journey being a Test captain but I think leadership is something that comes extremely naturally to me," Elgar said during an interview with Cricket South Africa (CSA) which was released on Monday.

"I've captained teams in the past, right up from school level to provincial level and at franchise level. I enjoyed it extremely and if I was asked to take on the captaincy, it's definitely something I would think long and hard about because it would mean a lot to me."

The left-handed batsman, who had captained the 2006 U-19 World Cup team in Sri Lanka, was the stand-in skipper in the first Test against England in 2017 after regular captain Du Plessis had missed the match due to the birth of his first child.

Elgar had again captained South Africa against Pakistan in January last year when Du Plessis was penalised for slow over-rate in the second Test and was suspended for the third and final Test of the series.

Aiden Markram and Keshav Maharaj had earlier expressed their desires to captain South Africa.


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One thing I have realised is that players who play like Azhar Ali and Elgar will decline quicker. This is due to them having to use a lot of energy mentally and physically to play the way they do.

Not saying Elgar should be replaced. But SA shouldn't plan for him to be in 11 long term.
 
One thing I have realised is that players who play like Azhar Ali and Elgar will decline quicker. This is due to them having to use a lot of energy mentally and physically to play the way they do.

Not saying Elgar should be replaced. But SA shouldn't plan for him to be in 11 long term.

Sweeping statement. No one can stay good forever and it hardly matters 'how you play' as long as you are there mentally. There are numerous examples of players with an abundance of talent and fluid techniques who weren't mentally strong to make it at the highest level. As are examples of players with ugly techniques and very little talent who knew how to persevere and as a result succeeded.

Dean Elgar exemplifies grit. He has scored some very, very tough runs for South Africa. And you can't score tough runs if you are not mentally strong. Furthermore, there is no evidence to support the ridiculous claim you made.
 
He is the batsmen KL Rahul dreams to become in test cricket.
 
Sweeping statement. No one can stay good forever and it hardly matters 'how you play' as long as you are there mentally. There are numerous examples of players with an abundance of talent and fluid techniques who weren't mentally strong to make it at the highest level. As are examples of players with ugly techniques and very little talent who knew how to persevere and as a result succeeded.

Dean Elgar exemplifies grit. He has scored some very, very tough runs for South Africa. And you can't score tough runs if you are not mentally strong. Furthermore, there is no evidence to support the ridiculous claim you made.


Players like Azhar Ali and Alistair Cook have declined in their early 30s and I do believe their style of play has something to do with it. Playing in such way is exhausting mentally as I said. They play every ball with all their strength as they don't have the shot range.

If the claim is ridiculous, don't reply then.
 
Players like Azhar Ali and Alistair Cook have declined in their early 30s and I do believe their style of play has something to do with it. Playing in such way is exhausting mentally as I said. They play every ball with all their strength as they don't have the shot range.

If the claim is ridiculous, don't reply then.

Your opinion. Just because a couple of players started to lose their form in their mid-30s doesn't mean all of them do. Cook had a nearly 15 year career and for the most part was either good or very good. At some point his form was bound to decline. He also had a fluid technique and enough shots in the arsenal to be considered one of the best openers in the world during his heyday. He probably had more shots than Greame Smith, and a better technique too but don't see him being mentioned here by you.

At the end of the day what you are saying is purely subjective. I don't think Cook lacked shots. When you have a technique that solid everything becomes infinitely easier. And even if you don't have a good technique you can make it if you have the mental fortitude to make it like Greame Smith. Finally, just because you have crossed you mid-30s doesn't mean you can't play test cricket. Misbah would barely have a career if that was the case.

Test cricket is always more of a mental game than it is anything else. As long as you have convinced yourself that you can score runs than an imperfect technique, a lack of shots in the arsenal or your age cannot affect you. As soon as you embrace a defeatist mentality, that's basically it. Doesn't matter if you're Mark Ramprakash at 25 or Brian Close at 45.
 
Underrated?

I feel he is neither overrated nor underrated. He gets the credit he deserves.
 
A leading man facing unprecedented pressure extending beyond the field, a coach looking to kickstart the stint by shedding his good boy image, and a buoyant pacer primed to breathe fire into the attack against an opposition led by a dogged man ready for tough contests and tougher conversations at home. India’s tour of South Africa is set to be the stage for overarching narratives.


You are the senior-most player and Test captain now. How has the team culture and environment within the team changed over the years?

There has been a massive transformation. When I started in 2012, the culture was strong but it was old-school mentality. There were a lot of big strong personalities then that ran the team pretty well. But now the culture is very strong too. We have made every player feel welcome as much as possible. Even with the younger guys, we have tried to make them feel as if they have been here for a few years already. I think that’s because they are more comfortable with the environment. We have also lost a lot of players, but we also have some young players which can be good as they bring a different spinoff to the environment and it’s something for me to get used to as well. It’s a work in progress, of course, but it’s a lot stronger than what other people outside think of us.


How difficult is it to be captain of a country like South Africa? How are you handling the pressure with so many things happening?

It depends how you handle that pressure. I have to see it as a privilege, and not a curse, burden. South Africa has its own challenges with regards to a lot of dynamics that make up South Africa; it’s pretty unique and special. I don’t think there is another country in the world that has to deal with this kind of dynamics in the society. I have never run away from pressure, I think it brings the best out of me as a person. My personality gravitates towards such challenges that come with the job. I kind of enjoy it.

There is always light at the end of the tunnel even though it can seem like a small light sometimes! There is always a glimmer of hope.

Being captain of South Africa isn’t just a cricket job; there are so many moral dynamics involved from inclusiveness, racism, and such. No other cricketing captain has to face this kind of pressure.

They are important for our social development. The way we have gone and the way things are right now in the team, I have never seen it better. The way guys respect each other and respond to one another is pretty special.

It’s one of the biggest challenges, of course. I have to connect with each and every one who is playing and who potentially will be coming into the team. I am fortunate that I have very good relationships with everyone right now. I have been around long enough and they know the kind of man I am.

There has been a bit of break now as I am not part of white-ball cricket but when we meet now, I don’t see problems in getting them back on my side and moving together.

It’s about finding a balance in the roles within oneself. Away from the field, you have to be a friend and someone who is willing to listen and learn. On the field, you have to kick into a different personality almost, as a leader. It’s one of the biggest challenges – having good people around you is important. You have to talk and learn.


Did you also have to educate yourself to be more socially aware about, say, what it means to be a young Black cricketer or the challenges Afrikaans face?

As a cricketer in South Africa, you must be able to have those conversations with the guys. You can’t be in a bubble. It happens by having conversations with players, understanding them, the issues. The conversations we have had in the past have been good from an educational point of view. It’s still a work in progress. We mustn’t stop learning about each other. We have to sit down and listen more. Listening is such an important skill in my role. Also speak, so that they understand you. Be honest in your communication.

I have spent a lot of time talking with Temba Bavuma. We know each other for many years, from A sides and for Proteas. Over time, we have been able to make one another comfortable with each other, to be able to speak to one another about all these things and it’s been a learning curve for all of us.

And guys need to know that you are not going to use it to your own advantage. Trust and being comfortable with each other. I think I have got that with my team-mates.


Have those conversations and the whole lived experience of the transition, not just in a cricket team but in the country, changed you in some ways?

Definitely. It has certainly made me more emotionally attached to the guys. It makes me a bit more concerned and wary about the past. It definitely is a massive learning curve. We all have a unique story, be it black, white, Afrikaans, English Afrikaans; in South Africa, it’s just that we have a lot more diversity.


Moving to cricketing matters, you have had 10 different opening partners in the last five years. Has it affected you?

It’s been quite a lot and has been disruptive. I didn’t think it would affect me as a player but as it has gone on, it has been a bit of a setback to my career. I am not going to use that as an excuse. It has put me in a more resilient position. It has not made me a better player or a worse player but has helped me develop as a character. Moving forward, I hope we have a solid opening pair with myself and Aiden Markram.


World over, there seems to be some sort of opening pair issues.

It looks like it. Perhaps the T20 influence. I don’t have the answer to it. It’s a specialised position and sometimes people forget the basics and fundamentals. But that’s my opinion.


You are seen as a fighter, someone who doesn’t give up or give an inch to the opposition. How did that personality develop?

From my childhood, I guess. I have always had to work hard. Back in my teenage days, going against adults, I would be stubborn, refuse to let them get me out. Even in the backyard, I would refuse to let the adults get me out. Childhood plays a massive role in the kind of person you are. I have a job to do. My job is there to go out, get runs, and get my team in a position to win. My character off the field is totally different to the character on the field. I am not there to make friends on the field. I am not going to let anyone walk over me.


Your interesting battle with Ravichandran Ashwin is going to resume. Looking forward to it?

Definitely, it has been a talking point. Ash is a world- class spinner. He has got the upper hand against me in India, but I have also done pretty well against him. We have had battles in county cricket too – the pitch I remember there was like Nagpur, I guess (laughs). The ball spun quite a bit. It doesn’t matter where you play in the world, it will be a tough battle. He is one of the best. There is a lot of mutual respect.


What makes someone like Jasprit Bumrah tough for an opener?

He is a world-class bowler and South African conditions suit him a lot with bounce and extra seam movement. It’s another great challenge. There are other good pace bowlers too in India; so, it should be a good contest.

You have a good bowling attack but have lost quite a few senior batsmen like Hashim Amla, Faf du Plessis and AB de Villiers. Still see advantage at home?

Yes, we have to be mindful of that loss of experienced batters; you can’t fill those positions quickly but it has given a lot of opportunities to a talented young pool of batsmen. It’s going to be a challenge going into a big series knowing that we might have one or two young inexperienced batsmen. But they have performed in domestic cricket. It’s an opportunity and if you don’t grab them, there are other people waiting.

We have an upper hand that we are playing in South Africa, we know our conditions more than India but then India are the best team in the world. We know that they are coming here to try and beat us, which they haven’t done before. It’s going to be a tough contest but I am pretty confident since we are playing at home.


You have a Kolpak returnee in Duanne Olivier, the bowler coming back to play for you. A word on him.

He is a massive player for us. He has been given the opportunity because he has done well in domestic cricket.

People left because they weren’t given opportunities in South Africa. Every player has a choice and they actually took a massive gamble in going there and it has paid off for them. I don’t see any problem with that. If a young talented player feels they have to go overseas to explore opportunities, so be it.


You must have read about the captaincy changes in India. Virat Kohli is just the Test captain now and Rohit Sharma takes over the white-ball role. Do you think all these changes might unsettle India? How has your experience of playing India changed over the years?

I don’t see it affecting India too much. I think Rohit and Virat are similar stature players and characters. Rohit is quieter than Virat but India will still have a winning mindset. They are still going to be in a good leadership position. Virat is still the Test captain and he has lots of years left for India as a leader. India will still be quite a good team.

India’s travel record has been brilliant in the last few years. That’s one thing Virat has obviously wanted to do and they came out and competed well in Australia, in England, here.


How is the situation with the Omicron variant progressing?

Our bio-bubble is world class. The situation isn’t ideal but within the bubble, things will be good for the guys. I am pretty confident.


How do you think Bavuma has come on as a leader and player?

As a leader, he has come leaps and bounds. There is a lot of responsibility on Temba’s shoulders being given such a big honour to captain the white-ball teams. In Test cricket, as a player, he needs to work hard on his game but he is just one innings away from realising his potential as a Test batter. He is a very talented batter and needs to turn those 30s-40s into hundreds. And then, he can be on his way. He is not far from being a very good Test cricketer.


Finally, advantage South Africa or even stevens?

I think we are still the favourites going into the home series. Even though we haven’t played a lot of cricket in recent times, we have been good in what we have played. Anything can happen in Test cricket and India certainly is a very good side. Virat would no doubt want to come and beat South Africa in South Africa. This series is going to be so good. I can’t wait for it to start.

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Standing his ground and taking on India.... 46* for Captain Dean Elgar

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Number of times he plays and misses and get hit is unbelievable.
 
Just goes to show that determination and being mentally strong are two very important ingredients in a Test opener.

Not the most pleasing on the eye to watch, but he's always up for a battle.
 
Not pretty, but effective, and mentally resilient.

A good solid old school Test match opener.
 
Very good player. RSA are lucky to have him as their captain in such difficult times.
 
Currently batting on 72* (170) and leading the run chase. A truly fantastic captain’s knock!
 
Should really be talked among Fab 4/5. Average of 45 as opener in SA is equal to 50+ elsewhere
 
Best test opener of this generation alongwith KL Rahul.

Rohit and Warner are overrated FTBs.
 
Rock solid opening batsman. He reminds me of the little peak Murali Vijay had in his career which included a tour of South Africa.

He may average only 39, but I'd gladly swap both Pujara and Rahane for him.
 
old school test opener in mould of gary kirsten. takes his blows, toughs it out, grinds his runs in a good manner, also has patience to wait for bad balls to put away.
 
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Day 3 of the second Test between India and South Africa at the Wanderers in Johannesburg had every bit of drama involved, not just pertaining to the game, but the day witnessed quite a few incidents of war of words. And the viral video of an Indian player sledging the South Africa skipper Dean Elgar was once such incident.

The incident happened in the 28th over of the game. Ashwin's sharp off-break, that came from well outside off, that turned in and struck Keegan Petersen's pads in line with the middle stump. The bowler and Rishabh Pant appealed and umpire Erasmus was convinced. And so was Elgar as he did not let Petersen review it. Well, he was right as shown in the replay.

While the disappointed Petersen walked out scoring 28 off 44 in the second innings, Rassie van der Dussen made his way to the middle. It was then, as caught on stump mic, when one of the Indian players sledged Elgar for not reviewing Petersen's dismissal.

Video of that moment went viral where the player can be heard saying in Hindi, “Zabardast captain he yeh, zabardast captain he yeh. Sirf apne baare me sochta he (He is a superb captain. He only thinks about himself).”

Chasing 240 runs in the final innings with the aim to level the series, Elgar showed some serious grit. He was beaten 16 times by Indian bowlers, copped a blow on his helmet grille from Jasprit Bumrah and then another from Mohammed Shami on his shoulder, but he kepty fighting, denying India that prized wicket.

Elgar found some early assistance from opener Aiden Markram as he score 31 off 38 in their 47-run opening stand before Shardul Thakur picked his eighth wicket in the Test by dismissing the latter. Petersen and Elgar then stitched a valiant 46-run stand for the second wicket before Ashwin got the better of the former.

Elgar, who finished Day 3 with an unbeaten 46 off 121, will resume the fourth day alongside Van der Dussen, who is batting on 11 off 37.

South Africa stand 122 runs away from their maiden win against India in Johannesburg while the visitors stand eight wickets away from their first ever Test series win in the Rainbow Nation.

HT
 
Lead from the front.

If your skipper shows such guts and determination, then the rest of the team will follow.

Brilliant performance.
 
A proper Test opener of the Graeme Smith mould. A tough, gritty, hard-as-nails Saffer opener captain.

He's not on that same elite level of opener as Smith, but his contributions to grind out tough new-ball periods on tough pitches are invaluable. Averages 40 in Test match 4th innings, 68.37 if only considering SA matches. For context, in 4th innings' Warner averages 43, Latham 25, Rohit 27 and Karunaratne 38.

For an opener always taking on the toughest conditions in a Test that is very impressive.
 
A proper Test opener of the Graeme Smith mould. A tough, gritty, hard-as-nails Saffer opener captain.

He's not on that same elite level of opener as Smith, but his contributions to grind out tough new-ball periods on tough pitches are invaluable. Averages 40 in Test match 4th innings, 68.37 if only considering SA matches. For context, in 4th innings' Warner averages 43, Latham 25, Rohit 27 and Karunaratne 38.

For an opener always taking on the toughest conditions in a Test that is very impressive.

Yeah. One of those "ugly runs" left hand openers SA produces, all have quite a similar approach- Kepler Wessels, Gary Kirsten, Smith and Elgar.

It's a tough period for openers with spicier pitches than some previous eras & a good fast bowling crop around. He is an under-rated player. He deserved the winning ton for that effort.
 
Personally I’ve always rated him highly, well before this innings. He’s a rock solid opener who absorbs pressure. Any team in the world would be lucky to have him.
 
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Day 3 of the second Test between India and South Africa at the Wanderers in Johannesburg had every bit of drama involved, not just pertaining to the game, but the day witnessed quite a few incidents of war of words. And the viral video of an Indian player sledging the South Africa skipper Dean Elgar was once such incident.

The incident happened in the 28th over of the game. Ashwin's sharp off-break, that came from well outside off, that turned in and struck Keegan Petersen's pads in line with the middle stump. The bowler and Rishabh Pant appealed and umpire Erasmus was convinced. And so was Elgar as he did not let Petersen review it. Well, he was right as shown in the replay.

While the disappointed Petersen walked out scoring 28 off 44 in the second innings, Rassie van der Dussen made his way to the middle. It was then, as caught on stump mic, when one of the Indian players sledged Elgar for not reviewing Petersen's dismissal.

Video of that moment went viral where the player can be heard saying in Hindi, “Zabardast captain he yeh, zabardast captain he yeh. Sirf apne baare me sochta he (He is a superb captain. He only thinks about himself).”

Chasing 240 runs in the final innings with the aim to level the series, Elgar showed some serious grit. He was beaten 16 times by Indian bowlers, copped a blow on his helmet grille from Jasprit Bumrah and then another from Mohammed Shami on his shoulder, but he kepty fighting, denying India that prized wicket.

Elgar found some early assistance from opener Aiden Markram as he score 31 off 38 in their 47-run opening stand before Shardul Thakur picked his eighth wicket in the Test by dismissing the latter. Petersen and Elgar then stitched a valiant 46-run stand for the second wicket before Ashwin got the better of the former.

Elgar, who finished Day 3 with an unbeaten 46 off 121, will resume the fourth day alongside Van der Dussen, who is batting on 11 off 37.

South Africa stand 122 runs away from their maiden win against India in Johannesburg while the visitors stand eight wickets away from their first ever Test series win in the Rainbow Nation.

HT

Anyone can help and tell witch Indian player it was?

On topic, Elgar played a great innings yesterday. He deserved a hundred. It was a remarkable innings on a difficult pitch.
 
Proper test match opening batting display. Not enough openers like this
 
Dean Elgar vs Dimuth Karunaratne vs Tom Latham

Three loyal servants of test cricket, three best test openers currently.
In the era of 20-20s, we hardly find such dedicated cricketers who give their most time to test cricket. All three are left handers and have captained their test sides.

Lets look at their statistical comparisons,


Overall Stats

D.Elgar
M-63 R-4323 A-41.56 SR-46.82 100/50s-12/19 HS-199

D.Karunaratne
M-73 R-5422 A-40.46 SR-50.24 100/50s-13/27 HS-244

T.Latham
M-62 R-4457 A-43.27 SR-46.64 100/50s-12/22 HS-264*

Overall batting stats are almost same.
But Karunaratne has scored more runs and centuries. He played most matches too.


Stats Away From Home

D.Elgar
M-28 R-1627 A-33.20 100/50s-5/6 HS-160

D.Karunaratne
M-43 R-2573 A-32.16 100/50s-4/14 HS-196

T.Latham
M-31 R-2103 A-36.89 100/50s-5/13 HS-154

We can see a sharp decline in away from home averages for all three openers. But, Latham average is still decent.


Stats against Top 8 Teams
This is the most important criterion for judging the batsman. Records against Zimbabwe, Ireland, Bangladesh and Afghanistan are not considered.

D.Elgar
M-57 R-3805 A-39.22 100/50s-10/18 HS-160

D.Karunaratne
M-58 R-4131 A-38.25 100/50s-9/23 HS-196

T.Latham
M-54 R-3469 A-37.70 100/50s-7/21 HS-264*


Stats Against Top 8 teams away from home

D.Elgar
M-25 R-1470 A-31.95 100/50s-5/5 HS-160

D.Karunaratne
M-35 R-2056 A-30.68 100/50s-3/11 HS-196

T.Latham
M-29 R-1850 A-34.24 100/50s-3/13 HS-154



All three have carried their bat but Elgar managed to do it 3 times.
As captain, Karunaratne has won test series in South Africa.
Latham has knack of scoring big runs as he have two scores of more than 250s.

Who do you think is better test opener and better overall better test player ?
Please discuss and contribute.
 
My level of respect for Dean Elgar has reached a new stratosphere.

To do this much trash-talking before the start of the series and then deliver this kind of smash mouth performance. Wow...just wow.

He talked the talk and walked the walk. BiG Time.
 
Mentally tough cricketer.

No big statements, just goes out there and does the business.

The sort of leader the players want to do their best for.

Fantastic leadership at Lord's.
 
Elgar is from Smith-Kallis-ABD-Amla era. He was groomed in that period.

He is polished and battle-hardened.

Problem is South Africa are yet to find a replacement for Elgar. Once he retires, things can get tricky (he is 35 now).
 
Elgar is from Smith-Kallis-ABD-Amla era. He was groomed in that period.

He is polished and battle-hardened.

Problem is South Africa are yet to find a replacement for Elgar. Once he retires, things can get tricky (he is 35 now).

I’m sure there will be a high quality, deserving player like Devon Conway in their ranks.
 
Elgar has been amazing for South Africa. Best captain since Smith for South Africa.

In CapeTown Test 2022, Virat Kohli tried sledging Elgar hard by using comments like , "Dean, we all know who wanted to call off the Jo'burg game in 2018". But Elgar was gritty and resilient throughout and won SA the match and series with the fourth inning knock.

He may not average mid-40s in tests but he has had a significant impact in Test Cricket for South Africa.
 
Test cricket needs more players like Dean Elgar. Guys who personify grit and are just tough as nails. I've seen him take body blow after body blow on minefields and still come out on top.

Also seems to have some kind of god given gift when it comes to playing and missing. Which may be down to his unorthodox stance. Some of the balls he played and missed against Anderson in the last test would have gotten most top batters in the world.
 
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OHANNESBURG: Proteas Test batter Dean Elgar has today announced that he will retire from international cricket following the Betway Test series against India.

Elgar will fittingly end his international career with the two Test matches - the first to be played at his home ground, SuperSport Park, in Centurion from 26 – 30 December and the second at the venue where he scored his first Test runs, Newlands Cricket Ground in Cape Town, from 03 – 07 January.

The 36-year-old has represented South Africa in 84 Tests and eight One-Day Internationals during a career that has spanned 12 years.

Since making his Test debut against Australia in 2012, he has gone on to score over 5000 runs at an average of 37.28, including 13 centuries and a career-best 199 against Bangladesh in 2017.

His contributions with the bat and gritty performances earned him the role of Test captain from May 2021 – January 2023, where he led the side to third place in the second edition of the ICC World Test Championship with a notable 2-1 series win over India at home in January 2022.

Elgar said: “Playing the game of cricket has always been a dream of mine but having the opportunity to represent your country is the ultimate! Having had the privilege to do it for 12 years internationally is simply beyond my wildest dreams. It has been an incredible journey that I have been fortunate enough to have.

“As they say, ‘all good things come to an end’, and the Indian home series will be my last, as I have made the decision to retire from our beautiful game. A game that has given me so much. The Cape Town Test will be my last. My favourite stadium in the world. A place I scored my first Test run against New Zealand and hopefully my last too.

“Having the opportunity to represent my country and the learnings I’ve had along my journey is something I’ll always be thankful for. It’s most definitely been the best learning experience of my life.

“A few thank you’s I have:

“To my Dad, Mom and my Brother, wow it’s been such a rollercoaster ride for us all. For the time spent on the side of the field supporting and cheering me on and being my biggest fans, allowing me to live out my dream, for this I’ll always be indebted to you all.

“To my partner, I don’t even know where to start. But a massive thank you has to go to you. I know I have not always been the easiest person at times but you have made me a better person and for that I’m truly grateful. Thank You!

“To my mates (you know who you are). You guys have always been there for me, whether it was for a chat, a beer or a braai, you all have a special place in my heart. A big thank you all, you have no idea how much it has meant to me.

“To my sponsors I’ve had over the many years. Again, a massive thank you to you all. Without the support and backing from you my sponsors, making life easier for me, I don’t think I would have had the career I’ve had.

“A special mention has to go to the Kookaburra family. You all have been there from day one. Since the age of 16, you were there for me. 20 years down the line you're still there and it’s been an absolute honour to be associated with the Kookaburra family. For the love and support from the Bryant family I am truly grateful. A massive thank you for allowing me to have the best in the business.

“I also want to take the opportunity to thank Cricket South Africa for investing in me from an early age and giving me the honour of representing my country. I am truly grateful for the opportunities I’ve received since U18 to date.

“The Free State Cricket Union (Eagles and Knights) and Northerns Cricket Union (Mighty Titans) a big thanks for the opportunity to play for the respected teams. Great memories, a lot of trophies in the cabinet and unbelievable memories have been created with amazing team mates.

“To former coaches and former team mates. You all have played a big role in making me the cricketer I am today, from on field memories and off field moments, all of this will always be in my memory of great fondness.

“To my current teammates, guys you are all a part of me. There have been so many unforgettable memories shared with you all. A big thanks goes to you all and a big good luck for the rest of your careers. Always fly the flag high and be the role models you are. Represent yourselves and the nation with utmost responsibility.

“Lastly, to the fans and supporters out there. You all have played an important part of my career. From ups and downs, you are still there to cheer me on. For this I’ll be grateful and will always remember the great times with you all.

“For now, I look forward to the series coming up and excited about what the future holds for me.”

CSA CEO Pholetsi Moseki commented: “We would like to thank Dean for his services over the years. He has represented his country with honour and has been a real ambassador for Cricket South Africa, always playing with his heart on his sleeve. His grittiness and determination are two qualities that really stood out; and these are attributes that all South Africans can relate to.

"On behalf of everyone at CSA, we wish him well for the future."

Director of Cricket Enoch Nkwe added: "Dean Elgar represents a rare brand of cricketer in an age where everything is about innovation and power-hitting. He is a real old-school cricketer that can dig in, absorb and fight. I have no doubt the game will dearly miss him. He has always given everything for his country and never showed any fear, no matter the opposition. He was always there to take on the challenge, leading as captain when the country needed him most.

"Thank you Dean for all the memories."
 
The 24th Test fifty for Dean Elgar in the first innings on Day 2 of the 1st Test against India.

Currently, he is batting at 61*(93). What a way to start his farewell Test series.

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The 24th Test fifty for Dean Elgar in the first innings on Day 2 of the 1st Test against India.

Currently, he is batting at 61*(93). What a way to start his farewell Test series.

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Dean Elgar slammed his 14th Test century in 140 balls against India in the first innings of the first Test. He is standing tall at 107 not out from 144 balls.

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ATG knock in bowling friendly conditions. What an innings to play during your series. Take a bow, Dean Elgar.
 
Seems to turn it up a notch as well when he plays India at home.

Yes, this is his 3rd home series against India. In the last two series, he was the best batsman for his side.

Surprisingly, this is his first hundred against India at home, which goes to show how tough it is to bat in South Africa, especially as an opener.
 
One of the last players remaining from Graeme Smith era.

A proper Test batter. Very gritty.
 
Yes, this is his 3rd home series against India. In the last two series, he was the best batsman for his side.

Surprisingly, this is his first hundred against India at home, which goes to show how tough it is to bat in South Africa, especially as an opener.
Yeah most SA openers that do well at home in Tests are gritty like Gary kirsten, G Smith and now Elgar. You always get tested in these conditions so you have to earn your runs. Yeah you can see why he's been best batsmen in last few series between these sides.
 
He did well to keep South African Test team together after all the legends retired.

All the best to him.
 
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