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But all the prophets are Muslim according to Islam. Basically converting them posthumously.
Jesus, Moses, Joseph, David etc never called themselves Muslim or used the word Islam or Allah. They never visited Mecca and had nothing to do with Arabia.

All the above mentioned Jewish prophets lived more than 1500 kms from their he holy city of Mecca. I doubt they even knew Hijaj area. It was a desert and uninhabitable area.

Of course, because from Islamic point of view there is only one Creator and all Abrahmic religions recognised that and received revelation. But those who strayed from worship of Allah became more devoted to messengers such as Christ or their tribe/race.
 
But all the prophets are Muslim according to Islam. Basically converting them posthumously.
Jesus, Moses, Joseph, David etc never called themselves Muslim or used the word Islam or Allah. They never visited Mecca and had nothing to do with Arabia.

All the above mentioned Jewish prophets lived more than 1500 kms from their he holy city of Mecca. I doubt they even knew Hijaj area. It was a desert and uninhabitable area.
Brother Champ pal please read Quran first. It's so plain for Muslims, would be same for you if you read it
 
Brother Champ pal please read Quran first. It's so plain for Muslims, would be same for you if you read it
Sure. Anybody can make fictitious connections thousands of kilometers away. What is needed is evidence. Just because it is written in your holy book does not mean it is true.
 
Of course, because from Islamic point of view there is only one Creator and all Abrahmic religions recognised that and received revelation. But those who strayed from worship of Allah became more devoted to messengers such as Christ or their tribe/race.
This is like Hindus claiming that Mecca was an ancient temple and Abraham and Sara are actually Brahma and Saraswati.
 
This is like Hindus claiming that Mecca was an ancient temple and Abraham and Sara are actually Brahma and Saraswati.
still more plausible than the Sun being stationary and not having an orbit, and Earth being flat and other such beliefs you hold dear, brother @Champ_Pal
 
Sure. Anybody can make fictitious connections thousands of kilometers away. What is needed is evidence. Just because it is written in your holy book does not mean it is true.
The thing is that Muslims can present the evidence of that claim but you can't
 
still more plausible than the Sun being stationary and not having an orbit, and Earth being flat and other such beliefs you hold dear, brother @Champ_Pal

I don't know which religion champ_pal is but Hinduism doesn't say earth is flat or sun is stationary.
 
I don't know which religion champ_pal is but Hinduism doesn't say earth is flat or sun is stationary.


I said Sun is stationary from Earth's point of view as all the planets are going around the milky way galaxy along with Sun. The only reason Sun appears to move across the sky is because of the earth's rotation on its own axis. Something very hard
 
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The thing is that Muslims can present the evidence of that claim but you can't

Your religion is born 1500 kms away from the Holy city of Jerusalem. None of the Jewish prophets went to the desert of Hejaz.

What evidence you have? Present me something from outside of your scriptures.
 
Your religion is born 1500 kms away from the Holy city of Jerusalem. None of the Jewish prophets went to the desert of Hejaz.

What evidence you have? Present me something from outside of your scriptures.

Also this is not the relevant thread for this discussion. You may bump Dawah thread for this purpose.
 

Also this is not the relevant thread for this discussion. You may bump Dawah thread for this purpose.

Muslims even claim that Purana says Mohammad(pbuh) is Kalki Avtar of Hindus.

Truth is neither Jews nor Christians font consider him to be their prophet.
 
Muslims even claim that Purana says Mohammad(pbuh) is Kalki Avtar of Hindus.

Truth is neither Jews nor Christians font consider him to be their prophet.
Yep they have their right to religion but those among them who found this convincing converts to Islam. And they are also in big numbers.
 

Udhayanidhi Stalin's 'let's wait' retort to Pawan Kalyan's Sanatana Dharma warning​


Tamil Nadu Deputy Chief Minister Udhayanidhi Stalin on Friday gave a short and sharp retort to the attack on him by his Andhra Pradesh counterpart Pawan Kalyan, who dredged up his "Sanatana Dharma is like malaria and dengue" remark from last year that had triggered a massive political storm.

"Let's wait and see," Udhayanidhi Stalin said while speaking to reporters.

On Thursday, actor-turned politician Pawan Kalyan took a veiled jibe at the DMK leader and said that anyone who tries to wipe out Sanatana Dharma will be wiped out.

"Don't say that Sanatana Dharma is like a virus, and it will be destroyed. Whoever said this let me tell you sir... You cannot wipe out Sanatana Dharma. If anyone tries to wipe out Santana Dharma, let me tell you from the feet of Lord Balaji you will be wiped out," a clad-in-saffron Kalyan said while addressing a rally in Tirupati.

Kalyan, who declared himself an 'unapologetic Sanatani Hindu', also stressed the need to bring in legislation at the national level to protect Sanatana Dharma and establish Sanatana Dharma protection boards and national and state levels.

"A strong national Act is required to protect Sanatana Dharma and prevent actions that harm its beliefs. This Act should be enacted immediately and uniformly enforced across the Bharat. A 'Sanatana Dharma Protection Board' should be established at both the national and state level to oversee the implementation of this Act. Annual funds must be allocated to support this board and its activities," the Janasena chief said.

Though Kalyan did not name anyone, his speech drew sharp criticism from Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (DMK).

Senior DMK leader TKS Elangovan attacked Kalyan and the National Democratic Alliance (NDA) and said that those who were talking about Sanatana Dharma themselves were wiped out from Tamil Nadu.

"Those who were talking about Sanatana Dharma got wiped out from Tamil Nadu in the general elections. DMK won all the seats and the BJP got none. All men are born equal and that is the Tamil culture. It's about quality and equanimity. These people who talk about Manu Dharma. Let them bring a law like what we brought which allows people from any caste to become priests in temples. Then, I will become the first Sanatani," Elangovan said.

In September 2023, Udhayanidhi Stalin ignited widespread controversy by likening Sanatana Dharma to diseases like 'dengue' and 'malaria'. He went further to assert that Sanatana Dharma should be 'eradicated', drawing sharp reactions from various quarters.

"Few things cannot be opposed, that should be abolished only. We can't oppose dengue, mosquitoes, malaria or corona. We have to eradicate this. That's how we have to eradicate Sanatana," Udhayanidhi had said while he was addressing a gathering at 'Sanatana Abolition Conference'.

"Rather than opposing Sanatana, it should be eradicated. The name Sanatana is from Sanskrit. It is against social justice and equality," Udhayanidhi Stalin added.

 

Tensions in Goa after Christians demand RSS leader's arrest over communal remarks​


Tensions flared in parts of Goa on Sunday as members of the Christian community took to the streets, calling for the arrest of Subhash Velingkar, the former Goa unit chief of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), over his remarks regarding the Catholic missionary St Francis Xavier.

Locals and political leaders staged a protest in Old Goa seeking action against Velingkar. The protesters also called on like-minded individuals to gather in Margao city in South Goa for a demonstration. Late on Saturday, a group of protesters blocked a national highway in Margao and clashed with police. Five protesters were detained.

Meanwhile, Goa Church authorities have called for peace and restraint amid growing protest.

Commenting on the development, Rahul Gandhi, Leader of the Opposition in the Lok Sabha, on Sunday slammed the BJP for “deliberately stoking communal tensions,” adding that Goa’s harmony is “under attack” under BJP rule.

“The BJP is deliberately stoking communal tensions, with a former RSS leader provoking Christians and Sangh organisations calling for an economic boycott of Muslims. Across India, similar actions by the Sangh Parivar continue with impunity, backed by support from the highest levels,” the Congress leader tweeted.

He further asserted, “The people of Goa and the whole of India see through this divisive agenda and are standing united”.

The Council for Social Justice and Peace (CSJP), the social work wing of the Archdiocese of Goa, issued a statement saying that the Goan Catholic community condemns Velingkar's "insulting and derogatory" remarks.

"Velingkar's statements deeply hurt the religious sentiments not only of Catholics but also of so many people belonging to other faith communities who also revere the saint for having received numerous favours in their lives after praying to him," the statement reads.

The committee urged the protesters to exercise restraint for the sake of peace and communal harmony. It also appealed to the authorities to take necessary strict action against Velingkar, as per the prevailing law, for "trying to disrupt communal harmony in Goa by deliberately and mischievously pitting one community against another".

More than 12 cases have been filed against Velingkar for "hurting religious sentiments" due to his media statements criticising St Francis Xavier, the patron saint of the state, whose relics are housed at the Basilica of Bom Jesus Church in Old Goa.

So far, police have not arrested Velingkar. He filed anticipatory bail plea before a local court on Saturday, which refused to grant him interim relief from arrest and scheduled the matter for Monday.

 
I thought the RSS had issues only with Muslims, but they're also targeting Christians.
 

What a sick society! How can you do that to a child?!!’

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Syrian, 11-Month-Old Injured In Acid Attack By Residents In West Delhi

Three refugees, including a Syrian national and a 11-month-old child, suffered burns as they were attacked with acid during an argument with residents in west Delhi's Vikaspuri, police said on Wednesday.

The child was admitted to Safdarjung Hospital for treatment and was discharged today, they said.

An FIR has been lodged and a local resident, Rakesh Kumar, has been arrested in the matter, according to a police statement.

The incident took place on September 30 near the UNHRC (United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees) office located at Vikaspuri, they said.

Deputy Commissioner of Police (West) Vichitra Veer said a PCR call was received regarding a brawl between the refugees and local residents.

A police team reached the spot and found that during the altercation, Kumar brought a can and threw some chemical at the three refugees and on the tentage where a few of them were residing.

Veer said on primary examination, the liquid appeared to be phenyl, but the exact composition will be established only on chemical examination.

Among the three refugees, one is a Syrian national, a police source said.

An FIR was lodged under appropriate sections of criminal law on October 1 and the accused was arrested, the DCP said.

The police, in a statement, said refugees frequent the UNHRC office in Vikaspuri seeking work and shelter. They often raise slogans, causing disturbance to the locals.

"Refugees go there from time to time, asking for work and shelter. Many a times, they raise slogans also, which causes disturbance to the local residents. On that day also, there was a heated argument between the refugees and the security guard deployed there, leading to the incident," read the statement.
 
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1 killed in violent clashes during Durga idol immersion in UP, 30 detained​


A 22-year-old man died, and several others were injured during clashes between two groups in a village in Uttar Pradesh's Bahraich over the playing of music during a Durga idol immersion procession.

After the incident, tension gripped the area as people set several vehicles on fire, prompting police to use force to bring the situation under control.

Clashes erupted when stones were thrown and gunshots were fired at the procession as it was passing through Bahraich's Mahrajganj Bazar area.

After the incident, the Bharaich Police detained at least 30 people. One man, identified as Salman, was also arrested after police found evidence of shots being fired at the procession from his home and shop.

Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Yogi Aditynath also took note of the incident and said that the guilty will not be spared.

In a post on X, he said, "Those who spoiled the law and order situation in Bahraich's Mahsi district will not be spared. Safety is guaranteed to all, but instructions have been given to identify the rioters and those whose negligence led to the incident and take strict action against them."

"Immersion of idols will continue. Administration and police officials have been directed to be present on the spot and speak with religious organisations to ensure that the immersion of idols is done," Yogi Aditynath said.

According to the police, a man identified as Ram Gopal Mishra, who was part of the procession, was shot. He was rushed to a hospital where he died during treatment, one of his family members said.

The family members of Mishra have refused to perform his last rites, stating that they will not proceed with the funeral until the accused are arrested.

Meanwhile, Bahraich's Superintendent of Police (SP) Vrinda Shukla also suspended two police officials for negligence.

"As many as 30 people have been detained. One of the accused, Salman, from whose home gunshots were fired, has been arrested. The Durga idol immersion has started again. We are checking the videos of the incident and trying to identify other accused," Shukla said.

Speaking to news agency ANI, Samajwadi Party (SP) leader ST Hasan urged people to not take the law into their own hands.

"No community should agitate the other community. No community should pelt stones on the other community. They should not take the law into their own hands. The right way is to tell your problems to the administration. But people agitate the communities," ST Hasan said.

"The people play music on loudspeakers near Masjids during the time of 'Namaz'. At most of the places where such clashes happen, it gets converted into 'Hindu-Muslim' violence. It weakens the country and society. Action must be taken against those who take laws in their hands," the former Moradabad MP added.

 
Sad, sad incident. 22 is no age to die. Hope the perpetrators are brought to justice.

RIP!
 

1 killed in violent clashes during Durga idol immersion in UP, 30 detained​


A 22-year-old man died, and several others were injured during clashes between two groups in a village in Uttar Pradesh's Bahraich over the playing of music during a Durga idol immersion procession.

After the incident, tension gripped the area as people set several vehicles on fire, prompting police to use force to bring the situation under control.

Clashes erupted when stones were thrown and gunshots were fired at the procession as it was passing through Bahraich's Mahrajganj Bazar area.

After the incident, the Bharaich Police detained at least 30 people. One man, identified as Salman, was also arrested after police found evidence of shots being fired at the procession from his home and shop.

Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Yogi Aditynath also took note of the incident and said that the guilty will not be spared.

In a post on X, he said, "Those who spoiled the law and order situation in Bahraich's Mahsi district will not be spared. Safety is guaranteed to all, but instructions have been given to identify the rioters and those whose negligence led to the incident and take strict action against them."

"Immersion of idols will continue. Administration and police officials have been directed to be present on the spot and speak with religious organisations to ensure that the immersion of idols is done," Yogi Aditynath said.

According to the police, a man identified as Ram Gopal Mishra, who was part of the procession, was shot. He was rushed to a hospital where he died during treatment, one of his family members said.

The family members of Mishra have refused to perform his last rites, stating that they will not proceed with the funeral until the accused are arrested.

Meanwhile, Bahraich's Superintendent of Police (SP) Vrinda Shukla also suspended two police officials for negligence.

"As many as 30 people have been detained. One of the accused, Salman, from whose home gunshots were fired, has been arrested. The Durga idol immersion has started again. We are checking the videos of the incident and trying to identify other accused," Shukla said.

Speaking to news agency ANI, Samajwadi Party (SP) leader ST Hasan urged people to not take the law into their own hands.

"No community should agitate the other community. No community should pelt stones on the other community. They should not take the law into their own hands. The right way is to tell your problems to the administration. But people agitate the communities," ST Hasan said.

"The people play music on loudspeakers near Masjids during the time of 'Namaz'. At most of the places where such clashes happen, it gets converted into 'Hindu-Muslim' violence. It weakens the country and society. Action must be taken against those who take laws in their hands," the former Moradabad MP added.

 
Shining india. Guess it starts from the leadership. Who have opressed minorities at every opportunity. Then we see sad incidents like this.
 
Some disturbing events have happened during this year's Durgapuja in Kolkata. Durhapuja is by far thr biggest festival for Hindu Bengalis and in this four days Kolkata becomes an exhibition for art music and innovativeness. But this year some incidents have soured the mood. In a pandal in garden reach some Muslim youths invaded and threatened to break the idols as devotional songs were being played at the time of namaaz. In shyampukur in the puja of the business association the organisers held an event where children were supposed to draw images of great men throughout history. One of the images which were placed for reference for the children was that of Prophet Muhammad. Local Muslims complained about it and the organisers took away the image. But despite that some Muslim goons vandalised the pamdal and broke the idols. There's a chance that this events are organized by the reigning Tmc party to take eyes away from the ongoing docto's protest. Still, the trends are disturbing.
 
And some hypocrites and liars who know the truth question what will happen if someday Muslims become a majority in India.
Even amazing thing is everyone will be happy to hide.they won't even respond since they think it's their right to insult other religions
 
India is now unsafe for minorities and women.

It is a shame many of the Indian posters here don't acknowledge it or even condemn it.
 
It's called Islamia College, so I'm assuming it's not secular.
It's a minority institution it means Muslims will be more but students from all other religions can study there on their merit basis. Even sehwag is an alumni there.

So that's how Muslims behave when they are in majority .They are part of India which is a secular and these youth are nothing but fearless proponents of hard core secularism when ever they appear in interviews shamelessly .
 
It's a minority institution it means Muslims will be more but students from all other religions can study there on their merit basis. Even sehwag is an alumni there.

So that's how Muslims behave when they are in majority .They are part of India which is a secular and these youth are nothing but fearless proponents of hard core secularism when ever they appear in interviews shamelessly .

Perhaps but all we have to go off there is a video of Muslims chanting AllahhuAkbar, there's no context or lead up so could be happened as described, or the tweet itself might have been released by someone trying to paint the Muslims in a bad light. Just trying to add some perspective here, we don't see anything before the chanting or if it might have been in response to something else.
 
It's a minority institution it means Muslims will be more but students from all other religions can study there on their merit basis. Even sehwag is an alumni there.

So that's how Muslims behave when they are in majority .They are part of India which is a secular and these youth are nothing but fearless proponents of hard core secularism when ever they appear in interviews shamelessly .
Exactly.. the conept of a secular democracy is alien to them
 
Perhaps but all we have to go off there is a video of Muslims chanting AllahhuAkbar, there's no context or lead up so could be happened as described, or the tweet itself might have been released by someone trying to paint the Muslims in a bad light. Just trying to add some perspective here, we don't see anything before the chanting or if it might have been in response to something else.
If this was the other way- this thread would have run into so many more pages..have you seen anything like this in a Muslim majority country ?
 
As usual. When in minority, want full secularism freedom of religion. When in majority, want Islamic or Sharia law and to heck with minorities/religious freedom... that's the eventuality
I googled about them .they are one of the most voiceferous organisation about secularism during caa and now they warn others .I see burkha dutt is one of their alumni and no wonder about those guys
 
Another peaceful youth posed as Hindu killed the teen victim after her refusal for abortion . Most tragically she was fasting on day before her murder for the well being of murderer on a Hindu festival. Victim's family was quite poor and victim used to earn money with social media posts after dropping out of 10th due to financial issues

A chilling crime has shaken the city of Rohtak, Haryana, where a 21-year-old man, Sanju alias Salim, was arrested for allegedly murdering his pregnant girlfriend, Sonia Kumari, 19, and burying her body in a field. According to the police, Sonia had been pressuring Sanju to marry her, but he refused, citing his parents' disapproval of their relationship.



A 21-year-old man, Sanju alias Salim, was arrested for allegedly murdering his pregnant girlfriend and burying her body in Haryana.

The victim's family revealed that Sonia was pregnant and had wanted to keep the baby, but Sanju had asked her to get an abortion. On Karwa Chauth, Sonia visited Sanju to press for marriage, but the next day, she left her house with some belongings and cash, only to be found dead.

The police investigation began when Sonia's brother, Manish, reported her missing on October 22. Manish suspected Sanju's involvement in her disappearance. During interrogation, Sanju confessed to killing Sonia and burying her body in Rohtak's Madina village with the help of his friends, Pankaj Kumar and Ritik.

Timeline of Events:
- October 21: Sonia visits Sanju on Karwa Chauth to convince him to marry her. She had kept a fast that day

October 22: Sonia goes missing; her brother Manish reports her disappearance to the police.

- October 23: Manish visits Sanju's house and discovers his real name, Salim.

- October 24: Police apprehend Sanju and Pankaj; they confess to the crime.

Investigation Ongoing
The police are awaiting autopsy reports to confirm Sonia's pregnancy. A case has been registered, and the probe is ongoing. The police are also searching for the third accused, Ritik.

Meanwhile, the victim's mother demanded strict action against the accused. She said that her daughter was a social media influencer and used to make short videos for different platforms.

"We got to know that she met a boy a few months back. They became good friends and started talking. It was shocking when we came to know that his real name was Saleem. He confessed to killing my daughter and buried her body. We want strict action against all the accused," she said.

The victim's brother-in-law said that the accused had used a different name when he befriended the woman.

 
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