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[Cpt. Rishwat]

But all the prophets are Muslim according to Islam. Basically converting them posthumously.
Jesus, Moses, Joseph, David etc never called themselves Muslim or used the word Islam or Allah. They never visited Mecca and had nothing to do with Arabia.

All the above mentioned Jewish prophets lived more than 1500 kms from their he holy city of Mecca. I doubt they even knew Hijaj area. It was a desert and uninhabitable area.

Of course, because from Islamic point of view there is only one Creator and all Abrahmic religions recognised that and received revelation. But those who strayed from worship of Allah became more devoted to messengers such as Christ or their tribe/race.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

But all the prophets are Muslim according to Islam. Basically converting them posthumously.
Jesus, Moses, Joseph, David etc never called themselves Muslim or used the word Islam or Allah. They never visited Mecca and had nothing to do with Arabia.

All the above mentioned Jewish prophets lived more than 1500 kms from their he holy city of Mecca. I doubt they even knew Hijaj area. It was a desert and uninhabitable area.

Brother Champ pal please read Quran first. It's so plain for Muslims, would be same for you if you read it

 

[Champ_Pal]

Brother Champ pal please read Quran first. It's so plain for Muslims, would be same for you if you read it

Sure. Anybody can make fictitious connections thousands of kilometers away. What is needed is evidence. Just because it is written in your holy book does not mean it is true.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Of course, because from Islamic point of view there is only one Creator and all Abrahmic religions recognised that and received revelation. But those who strayed from worship of Allah became more devoted to messengers such as Christ or their tribe/race.

This is like Hindus claiming that Mecca was an ancient temple and Abraham and Sara are actually Brahma and Saraswati.

 

[Stewie]

This is like Hindus claiming that Mecca was an ancient temple and Abraham and Sara are actually Brahma and Saraswati.

still more plausible than the Sun being stationary and not having an orbit, and Earth being flat and other such beliefs you hold dear, brother @Champ_Pal

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Sure. Anybody can make fictitious connections thousands of kilometers away. What is needed is evidence. Just because it is written in your holy book does not mean it is true.

The thing is that Muslims can present the evidence of that claim but you can't

 

[cricketjoshila]

still more plausible than the Sun being stationary and not having an orbit, and Earth being flat and other such beliefs you hold dear, brother @Champ_Pal

I don't know which religion champ_pal is but Hinduism doesn't say earth is flat or sun is stationary.

 

[Champ_Pal]

I don't know which religion champ_pal is but Hinduism doesn't say earth is flat or sun is stationary.

I said Sun is stationary from Earth's point of view as all the planets are going around the milky way galaxy along with Sun. The only reason Sun appears to move across the sky is because of the earth's rotation on its own axis. Something very hard

 

[Champ_Pal]

The thing is that Muslims can present the evidence of that claim but you can't

Your religion is born 1500 kms away from the Holy city of Jerusalem. None of the Jewish prophets went to the desert of Hejaz.

What evidence you have? Present me something from outside of your scriptures.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Your religion is born 1500 kms away from the Holy city of Jerusalem. None of the Jewish prophets went to the desert of Hejaz.

What evidence you have? Present me something from outside of your scriptures.

Old Testament Prophecies of Muhammad (2) - IslamOnline

The prophecies of Muhammad in Old testament of bible and their true fulfilment in the life of Muhammad

islamonline.net

Also this is not the relevant thread for this discussion. You may bump Dawah thread for this purpose.

 

[Stewie]

I don't know which religion champ_pal is but Hinduism doesn't say earth is flat or sun is stationary.

I don’t think this belief is rooted in religion. I just blame lack of decent education.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Old Testament Prophecies of Muhammad (2) - IslamOnline

The prophecies of Muhammad in Old testament of bible and their true fulfilment in the life of Muhammad

islamonline.net

Also this is not the relevant thread for this discussion. You may bump Dawah thread for this purpose.

Muslims even claim that Purana says Mohammad(pbuh) is Kalki Avtar of Hindus.

Truth is neither Jews nor Christians font consider him to be their prophet.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Muslims even claim that Purana says Mohammad(pbuh) is Kalki Avtar of Hindus.

Truth is neither Jews nor Christians font consider him to be their prophet.

Yep they have their right to religion but those among them who found this convincing converts to Islam. And they are also in big numbers.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Udhayanidhi Stalin's 'let's wait' retort to Pawan Kalyan's Sanatana Dharma warning​

Tamil Nadu Deputy Chief Minister Udhayanidhi Stalin on Friday gave a short and sharp retort to the attack on him by his Andhra Pradesh counterpart Pawan Kalyan, who dredged up his "Sanatana Dharma is like malaria and dengue" remark from last year that had triggered a massive political storm.

"Let's wait and see," Udhayanidhi Stalin said while speaking to reporters.

On Thursday, actor-turned politician Pawan Kalyan took a veiled jibe at the DMK leader and said that anyone who tries to wipe out Sanatana Dharma will be wiped out.

"Don't say that Sanatana Dharma is like a virus, and it will be destroyed. Whoever said this let me tell you sir... You cannot wipe out Sanatana Dharma. If anyone tries to wipe out Santana Dharma, let me tell you from the feet of Lord Balaji you will be wiped out," a clad-in-saffron Kalyan said while addressing a rally in Tirupati.

Kalyan, who declared himself an 'unapologetic Sanatani Hindu', also stressed the need to bring in legislation at the national level to protect Sanatana Dharma and establish Sanatana Dharma protection boards and national and state levels.

"A strong national Act is required to protect Sanatana Dharma and prevent actions that harm its beliefs. This Act should be enacted immediately and uniformly enforced across the Bharat. A 'Sanatana Dharma Protection Board' should be established at both the national and state level to oversee the implementation of this Act. Annual funds must be allocated to support this board and its activities," the Janasena chief said.

Though Kalyan did not name anyone, his speech drew sharp criticism from Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (DMK).

Senior DMK leader TKS Elangovan attacked Kalyan and the National Democratic Alliance (NDA) and said that those who were talking about Sanatana Dharma themselves were wiped out from Tamil Nadu.

"Those who were talking about Sanatana Dharma got wiped out from Tamil Nadu in the general elections. DMK won all the seats and the BJP got none. All men are born equal and that is the Tamil culture. It's about quality and equanimity. These people who talk about Manu Dharma. Let them bring a law like what we brought which allows people from any caste to become priests in temples. Then, I will become the first Sanatani," Elangovan said.

In September 2023, Udhayanidhi Stalin ignited widespread controversy by likening Sanatana Dharma to diseases like 'dengue' and 'malaria'. He went further to assert that Sanatana Dharma should be 'eradicated', drawing sharp reactions from various quarters.

"Few things cannot be opposed, that should be abolished only. We can't oppose dengue, mosquitoes, malaria or corona. We have to eradicate this. That's how we have to eradicate Sanatana," Udhayanidhi had said while he was addressing a gathering at 'Sanatana Abolition Conference'.

"Rather than opposing Sanatana, it should be eradicated. The name Sanatana is from Sanskrit. It is against social justice and equality," Udhayanidhi Stalin added.

Udhayanidhi Stalin's 'let's wait' retort to Pawan Kalyan's Sanatana Dharma warning

A war of words has erupted between Tamil Nadu Deputy Chief Minister Udhayanidhi Stalin and his Andhra Pradesh counterpart Pawan Kalyan, with latter advocating for protective laws for Sanatana Dharma while the former remains steadfast in his controversial position.

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