Devadwal
Senior Test Player
- Joined
- Dec 15, 2020
- Runs
- 27,972
Another hundred .very special player
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Still averages 84 vs us in 10 innings even after Sajid and Noman controlled him in last 4 of those inningsWhat makes this guy such a dangerous batter is that in many conditions, he completely destroys bowlers off a good length.
Averages 80 + in NZ against good length deliveries.
Probably much higher on Pakistani wickets.
Across his career, when Brook strides forward and intercepts the ball early (2.2 m or so), he averages 103 at a strike rate of 110 against good length deliveries.
Incredibly hard to bowl at.
Still averages 84 vs us in 10 innings even after Sajid and Noman controlled him in last 4 of those innings
I'd be really interested to see how he does in Australia. I would think that the wickets would suit his style of battingYeah. Slow wickets and spin seems to be a good way to stop all Bazballers including Brook.
But you need exceptional seam bowlers, bowling plans etc. to get rid of this guy with pace alone.
Modern equivalent of Viv Richards.
I'd be really interested to see how he does in Australia. I would think that the wickets would suit his style of batting
A thorough and categorical analysis by the great Greg Chappell and I find it impossible to deny. @Hitman @DevadwalIn his column for a local media outlet, Greg Chappell compared the early statistics of Harry Brook and Sachin Tendulkar, asserting that the young England batter is ahead of the legendary Indian cricketer:
"Harry Brook, a batting sensation whose performances and approach I compare to the great Sachin Tendulkar. Remarkably, Brook’s early career stats suggest he might even have outpaced the Indian maestro in terms of impact at the same stage."
"At just 25, Brook has rapidly become one of the most talked-about cricketers in the world. He boasts a simple but devastatingly effective batting method. Much like Tendulkar in his early years, Brook doesn’t move excessively in the crease before the ball is delivered."
"His stability and minimalistic technique allow him to read the angles of the bowler and adjust his strokes with precision. The result? An extraordinary ability to score from most deliveries, whether they’re pitched full, short or on an awkward length."
"Tendulkar’s early brilliance lay in his ability to use the bowler’s pace to his advantage, scoring heavily on both sides of the wicket. Brook, though a bigger and more powerful player physically, has a strikingly similar ability to manipulate the field with wristy flicks, crunching drives, and punishing back-foot shots."
"It’s a simple method, but simplicity often breeds greatness. Comparing their first 15 Tests reveals an eye-opening narrative. Tendulkar scored 837 runs at an average of just under 40, with a couple of centuries. Brook, in contrast, had made 1378 runs at an average of nearly 60, with five hundreds."
"To be fair, Sachin was still a teenager while Brook is in his mid-20s. Brook’s ability to combine aggression with consistency makes him a nightmare for bowlers because, much like Tendulkar, he’s incredibly hard to contain."
Harry Brook said that England's batsmen found it even more difficult than usual to pick India's spinners' variations because of the smog in Kolkata in 1st T20 vs India.
This seems like a bit of a lame excuse to me.
Did the smog disappear when buttler was batting?
When you don't know to how play spin you blame the smog
It is not the first we have seen brook struggling vs spin in india ,even in ipl he struggled
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India is too dirty for international cricket if players are being negatively impacted by smog.
Not the first time they made this as an issue after a loss. Sometimes in the 90s also they complained about Eden Gardens smog after sound thrashing.No smog in Chennai and still Brook couldn't play spin
Smog has long term effects not just short term.No smog in Chennai and still Brook couldn't play spin
Smog has long term effects not just short term.
It can impact different people in different ways. You shouldn't make light of potentially serious medical problems.Does that include the loss of long term spin playing ability?
In the last T20 world cup, there was smog in the Guyana. that's why they could not see the ball and England team humiliated by india.India is too dirty for international cricket if players are being negatively impacted by smog.
RVD is by far one of the worst i have seen against spin. HE was dropped from IPL precisely for that. Brook is close secodn so far. Even in internationals Chahal got the better of him. I think he was mainly bashing Pakistan. Later on got better against other sides. This is the first time he showed some authority against India.Seems to have a very obvious weakness against spin
Even in Pakistan he was bashing bowlers on dead-flat wickets. Once they started preparing turners, these were the scores he returned:RVD is by far one of the worst i have seen against spin. HE was dropped from IPL precisely for that. Brook is close secodn so far. Even in internationals Chahal got the better of him. I think he was mainly bashing Pakistan. Later on got better against other sides. This is the first time he showed some authority against India.
The thing is he failed against India even on flat wickets. You don't need turners to trap him. In the IPL apart from 1 century he was a flop. Most of the times he played on roads.Even in Pakistan he was bashing bowlers on dead-flat wickets. Once they started preparing turners, these were the scores he returned:
9, 16, 5, 26.
Fell to spin all four times.
He could have actually improved his game by playing in a world class tournament like IPL. These English players think by skipping IPL they are actually preserving themselves for international cricket. However it is the opposite. There is no English cricket now, so he will be resting and when county starts in mid april he will be at max playing against Dilby dolby bowlers. People only look at the IPL from the lenses of money but it actually improves your game too both technically and temperament wise.He expects to lead England. Plus he is horrendous against spin and may be wants to hide it.
3 years of No Brook.
Harry Brook pulls out of IPL for second year running
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He could have actually improved his game by playing in a world class tournament like IPL. These English players think by skipping IPL they are actually preserving themselves for international cricket. However it is the opposite. There is no English cricket now, so he will be resting and when county starts in mid april he will be at max playing against Dilby dolby bowlers. People only look at the IPL from the lenses of money but it actually improves your game too both technically and temperament wise.
Lol...who cares for damn IPL nowHarry Brook named England Men's white-ball captain
Yorkshire batter Harry Brook has been appointed as the new captain of the England Men’s white-ball teams.
Brook succeeds Jos Buttler, who stepped down from the role following England’s early exit from the ICC Champions Trophy last month in Pakistan.
The 26-year-old has been a key part of England’s white-ball set-up since making his debut in January 2022 and is widely regarded as one of the country’s most gifted batters across formats. Currently ranked number two in the ICC world batting rankings in Test cricket, Brook has spent the past year as vice-captain in both ODI and IT20 formats.
He also led the team in the Metro Bank ODI series against Australia last September in Buttler’s absence, earning praise for his tactical awareness and calm leadership. A former Young Lions captain, Brook also skippered England at the 2018 ICC Under-19 World Cup in New Zealand.
To date, Brook has played 26 ODIs for England, scoring 816 runs at an average of 34.00, with a top score of 110. In T20Is, he has earned 44 caps and a highest score of 81 and was part of the team that won the ICC T20 World Cup in 2022.
Brook said: "It’s a real honour to be named England’s white-ball captain. Ever since I was a kid playing cricket at Burley in Wharfedale, I dreamed of representing Yorkshire, playing for England, and maybe one day leading the team. To now be given that chance means a great deal to me.
"I want to thank my family and coaches who’ve supported me every step of the way. Their belief in me has made all the difference and I wouldn’t be in this position without them.
"There’s so much talent in this country, and I’m looking forward to getting started, moving us forward, and working towards winning series, World Cups and major events.
"I’m excited to get going and give it everything I’ve got.”
Rob Key, Managing Director of England Men’s Cricket, added: "I’m delighted that Harry Brook has accepted the role as England’s white-ball captain across both formats. He’s been part of our succession planning for some time, albeit this opportunity has come slightly earlier than expected.
"Harry is not only an outstanding cricketer, but also has an excellent cricketing brain and a clear vision for both teams that will help drive us towards winning more series, World Cups and major global tournaments."
England Men begin their 2025 white-ball campaign at the end of May with a home series against the West Indies, featuring three Metro Bank ODIs and three Vitality IT20s.
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England deserves this for mistreating Mo for so many years. In the ideal scenario, Mo would be a transitionary captain in both limited forms for a few years, that would give Brook more time to develop as a player and be in a better position to lead. Brook is a tough cookie but you don’t shake a tree and find Graeme Smith’s every day, it’s a big ask so everyone needs to lower their expectations and give Brook a proper long rope.
Moeen was carried as deadweight in ODIs for the majority of his career, I can think of nothing worse than having the obligation to pick him because he'd been appointed captain too.
He wasn’t given a defined role and they had asked him to lead on a number of of occasions over the past 5 years so it’s not like this wouldn’t be considered seriously if he was still around with the long term investment in Brook in mind.
His role was defined pretty clearly. He started his career at the top order as an all round mostly 2nd spin option. After a year with him averaging 30 with the bat they pretty quickly realised he wasn't in the top 6 one day batters in the country and that Hales/Roy was a much better option, so he got moved down to bat 7 and do the same role with the ball, which he was mediocre at and and should have been dropped from far earlier.
It makes sense doesn’t it to go from one extreme to the other over such a brief period - as if it’s common to treat new players like that, we all know why he got treated the way he did. You’re still upset that your bum boy from Hampshire couldn’t break into the side.
One post pointing out Moeen's ineptness and you've already resorted to bigoted slurs? I believe that's a new record for you.
You can’t digest the truth. When you look at the disparity between internationals and List A, there’s a lot more to it than you are making out. Roy/Hales should have opened, but did England decide to bat Hales at no.7 or no.8 after his first couple of years? And Mo’s performances were not anywhere near that terrible, he proved his potential in those first two years with both bat and ball, it made little sense to force a classic batter to go from being a top order player to a low order slogger. His own leaders regret how mistreated he was, if Mo was inept it was for being too selfless, but due to the colour of his skin there was pressure on him to fit in after being overlooked in domestic cricket for years. So yeah, I have to respond to ignorant pieces of crap accordingly and those who feel Liam Dawson of all players were hard done by. Besides, my hypothetical suggestion would benefit England’s Brook plans, Mo is a starter in T20I’s and he’d only be doing the job temporarily as captain in ODI’s, it’s just similar to the time all the chavs had to beg him to help rescue their Ashes.
No, Hales wasn't moved down the order after his first couple of years because he was performing opening, Moeen wasn't.
Moeen averaged 29 with the bat and 38 with the ball in his first 2 years, suggesting he 'proved himself' is ludicrous.
Moeen overlooked for years before his international calls up? He was literally picked straight after his first standout season (which happened to coincide with dropping down to division 2) before which he had an average record.
Don't even get me started on the Ashes test matches last year, even more matches that Moeen should never have been part of (and played despite not even being fit enough to fulfill his role!).