[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Mohammad Wasim (KPK) Pacer: First Impressions

[silentkiller187]

Looks decent but like one of the commentators said, i think it was simon doull he looks like he almost misses a step in his run up, needs to work on getting a smooth consistent run up and action.

 

[Major]

he was 5 year old if he saw that match.

lol atleast be consisstent if you gonna lie about ur age

 

[MRSN]

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he was 5 year old if he saw that match.

lol atleast be consisstent if you gonna lie about ur age

It doesn't say favorite match which he saw live on tv..

 

[Major]

It doesn't say favorite match which he saw live on tv..

yes and my favorite match was 1992 world cup which i never saw.

 

[Firebat]

Wasim gets the wicket of Sharjeel, but replays confirm he overstepped. Having a more difficult match tonight

 

[MenInG]

Aim high and shoot for the stars is the basic lesson for emerging stars and Islamabad United’s emerging pick, Mohammad Wasim Jnr, seems to be following the notion.

The 19-year-old wants to represent Pakistan at the highest level as an all-rounder. He had an impressive beginning with the ball in hand, but haven’t had the opportunity to display his batting skills because of a deep batting line-up which United, the two-time champion side, boasts.

“I want to be an all-rounder for Pakistan and make my name at international level,” he said.

To achieve his goal, Wasim has made rapid strides. The journey started with tape-ball cricket in North Waziristan in early 2011 and took a real flight once he shifted to Peshawar and trained with hard ball.

“It was tough,” remembers Wasim. “There were very few opportunities in Waziristan. My father did not want me to play cricket, but my uncle supported me and then friends helped me in my progress.”

He caught the eyes of the junior national selection committee and was included in Pakistan’s squad for the ICC U19 Cricket World Cup in 2020. In Pakistan’s tournament opener against Scotland, Wasim made a five-wicket haul.

“I was lucky to get selected for the junior World Cup. It was a great experience for me," reminisces Wasim.

Wasim says he is lucky to be playing with Pakistan internationals like Hasan Ali and Shadab Khan and is eager to learn from their wealth of experience.

“Islamabad United are too good. We have top-players in Hasan Ali and skipper Shadab Khan. They are all too good and their presence is helping me a great deal.”

Wasim got an ideal start in the tournament. He took three for 29 in four overs against Multan Sultans – in his side’s first match of the season – after going for ten runs in his first over.

He accounted for Sohaib Maqsood, Mohammad Rizwan and Shahid Afridi – the last being a first-ball duck.

Wasim's ultimate goal is “to be the best emerging player in the HBL PSL 6 and then play for Pakistan”.

 

[Bewal Express]

Aim high and shoot for the stars is the basic lesson for emerging stars and Islamabad United’s emerging pick, Mohammad Wasim Jnr, seems to be following the notion.

The 19-year-old wants to represent Pakistan at the highest level as an all-rounder. He had an impressive beginning with the ball in hand, but haven’t had the opportunity to display his batting skills because of a deep batting line-up which United, the two-time champion side, boasts.

“I want to be an all-rounder for Pakistan and make my name at international level,” he said.

To achieve his goal, Wasim has made rapid strides. The journey started with tape-ball cricket in North Waziristan in early 2011 and took a real flight once he shifted to Peshawar and trained with hard ball.

“It was tough,” remembers Wasim. “There were very few opportunities in Waziristan. My father did not want me to play cricket, but my uncle supported me and then friends helped me in my progress.”

He caught the eyes of the junior national selection committee and was included in Pakistan’s squad for the ICC U19 Cricket World Cup in 2020. In Pakistan’s tournament opener against Scotland, Wasim made a five-wicket haul.

“I was lucky to get selected for the junior World Cup. It was a great experience for me," reminisces Wasim.

Wasim says he is lucky to be playing with Pakistan internationals like Hasan Ali and Shadab Khan and is eager to learn from their wealth of experience.

“Islamabad United are too good. We have top-players in Hasan Ali and skipper Shadab Khan. They are all too good and their presence is helping me a great deal.”

Wasim got an ideal start in the tournament. He took three for 29 in four overs against Multan Sultans – in his side’s first match of the season – after going for ten runs in his first over.

He accounted for Sohaib Maqsood, Mohammad Rizwan and Shahid Afridi – the last being a first-ball duck.

Wasim's ultimate goal is “to be the best emerging player in the HBL PSL 6 and then play for Pakistan”.

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The lad has potential to be decent but there is something that tells that he is way older than 20. TBH he looks around 25.

 

[Muddaser]

The lad has potential to be decent but there is something that tells that he is way older than 20. TBH he looks around 25.

What is this obsession with ages on this forum? That's all you see in every thread. This guy looks older that guy looks older.

Getting ridiculous to be honest.

 

[Bewal Express]

What is this obsession with ages on this forum? That's all you see in every thread. This guy looks older that guy looks older.

Getting ridiculous to be honest.

Are you seriously asking this question when so much damage has been done to PK cricket by faked ages?

 

[Ellipsism]

The lad has potential to be decent but there is something that tells that he is way older than 20. TBH he looks around 25.

Pashtuns always look a bit older than they are. I doubt he’d be older than 23.

I don’t rate his bowling at all. Haven’t seen him so can’t comment much on that. But the only way he will ever be considered for Pakistan is if he develops his batting enough to bat at 7. Whether he’s good enough to do that, we’ll have to wait and see.

 

[Ahson8]

Pashtuns always look a bit older than they are. I doubt he’d be older than 23.

I don’t rate his bowling at all. Haven’t seen him so can’t comment much on that. But the only way he will ever be considered for Pakistan is if he develops his batting enough to bat at 7. Whether he’s good enough to do that, we’ll have to wait and see.

How do you rate him after watching these two games ?

 

[Bewal Express]

Pashtuns always look a bit older than they are. I doubt he’d be older than 23.

I don’t rate his bowling at all. Haven’t seen him so can’t comment much on that. But the only way he will ever be considered for Pakistan is if he develops his batting enough to bat at 7. Whether he’s good enough to do that, we’ll have to wait and see.

He is a decent bowler with lots of room for improvement, but my gripe is with spending precious resources on these "young bowlers" who are not young. We need to stop using age as yardstick to selecting these players because most of the ages are faked by at least 3 years, and some extreme cases by 5 years( naming no names chacha ifti). As far as his batting is concerned he is 8 or 9. He can the hit the ball but he aint going to be 6 or 7 from what i have seen of him.

 

[Forum363]

What is this obsession with ages on this forum? That's all you see in every thread. This guy looks older that guy looks older.

Getting ridiculous to be honest.

I don't know if you are joking or trolling.

Age fudging is one of the biggest issues in Pakistan cricket right now. Worryingly, it seems to be getting worse as almost all of the youngsters coming through right now are blatantly older by at least 3 years.

If Wasim is indeed 20, he is an exciting talent, who by the time he is 23 could improve into a world class player and spend the peak of his career gaining experience at International cricket.

If he is 25, then he has serious issues with his runup and by the time he rectifies these and developes his game, he will already have missed part of his peak.

Not to mention the genuine under 20 bowlers who missed out because of his age fudging.

 

[Artaxerxes]

The commentators pointed lots of flaws in his run up.He does not run in a straight line,he slows down half and then speeds up etc.They said he needs a good coach to sort out his run up.How come domestic coaches did not notice this?

 

[imranyounus]

one benefit of having a strong structure is that you get lots of stuff coming out and can pick and choose with out spending too much on specific player development for a longer-term.

If Waseem Haris rauf type bowlers are available for say 5 to 7 years there is no harm in selecting them. Just play them till they are needed or performing and replace them with others if the start declining or a better option is available.

Age becomes irreverent in such case. On the other hand if you ignore such players for some one young and developing than first you are wasting time till they develop fully and resulting in poor performances. Furthermore its also risks as a young player might not develop as desired such as Umar Akmal. or might suffer injury and your efforts go down the drain.

To conclude I would say age fudging must be controlled in junior level but once a player gets in senior circuit there is no need to worry about their age as long as the perform.

 

[shamaan]

He is a good bowler but he has lots of room for improvement.He doesnt run in a straight line and slows down and then goes again he could bowl at that speed only having a couple of steps.i think he will be good in the last five overs with his action and getting the yorkers in.I havent seen much of his batting but he looks like a power hitter who could bat at 8 but he must improve

 

[shamaan]

Are you seriously asking this question when so much damage has been done to PK cricket by faked ages?

And is anything being done NO !

 

[Saj]

The lad has potential to be decent but there is something that tells that he is way older than 20. TBH he looks around 25.

Yes when I first saw him, I thought mid 20s.

 

[Muddaser]

I don't know if you are joking or trolling.

Age fudging is one of the biggest issues in Pakistan cricket right now. Worryingly, it seems to be getting worse as almost all of the youngsters coming through right now are blatantly older by at least 3 years.

If Wasim is indeed 20, he is an exciting talent, who by the time he is 23 could improve into a world class player and spend the peak of his career gaining experience at International cricket.

If he is 25, then he has serious issues with his runup and by the time he rectifies these and developes his game, he will already have missed part of his peak.

Not to mention the genuine under 20 bowlers who missed out because of his age fudging.

I never said it wasn't a problem.

My issue is that every thread you go into all that is mentioned is whether they look their age or not.

Tell me how do you prove age just by looking at a person?

 

[Bewal Express]

I never said it wasn't a problem.

My issue is that every thread you go into all that is mentioned is whether they look their age or not.

Tell me how do you prove age just by looking at a person?

You can never be a 100% sure but you can tell with a fair degree of accuracy. The reason it is raised so often is because it is causing so much damage as resources are wasted on guys that are said to be 20 but in reality they are much older and are close to their peak. So when we are hoping they reach their promised potential, they are on the way down. It also stops genuine aged talent a chance to shine.

 

[Bewal Express]

Yes when I first saw him, I thought mid 20s.

The way around this is for the PCB to do genuine background checks and if any player is found to have faked their age, give them a 5 Yr ban.

 

[Forum363]

I never said it wasn't a problem.

My issue is that every thread you go into all that is mentioned is whether they look their age or not.

Tell me how do you prove age just by looking at a person?

Every thread that has to do with a seemingly young player who is clearly not the correct age.

It’s not possible to always tell someone’s exact age from looking at them, but generally you can tell when someone is older than their stated age by a few years.

 

[Pacy with wisdom]

You can never be a 100% sure but you can tell with a fair degree of accuracy. The reason it is raised so often is because it is causing so much damage as resources are wasted on guys that are said to be 20 but in reality they are much older and are close to their peak. So when we are hoping they reach their promised potential, they are on the way down. It also stops genuine aged talent a chance to shine.

I was 16 but was already muscular and with a full beard. No body would believe me at the gym when I would tell them my age.
People even called me out for being 24, 25 when i was doing my A levels.

My brother on the other hand is 17 but his beard hasnt grown out yet.
So if even two brothers can have different development patterns, then how can you put your finger on someone and proclaim that he doesn't look his age just because it doesn't resonate with how you perceive a guy of his age should look?

Yes, age fudging exists, but until there is evidence of this happening in an individual case, you cant go about blaming someone for it.

 

[Bewal Express]

I was 16 but was already muscular and with a full beard. No body would believe me at the gym when I would tell them my age.
People even called me out for being 24, 25 when i was doing my A levels.

My brother on the other hand is 17 but his beard hasnt grown out yet.
So if even two brothers can have different development patterns, then how can you put your finger on someone and proclaim that he doesn't look his age just because it doesn't resonate with how you perceive a guy of his age should look?

Yes, age fudging exists, but until there is evidence of this happening in an individual case, you cant go about blaming someone for it.

It's an unpalatable truth in our cricket that most of the players are faking their ages. The difference between you and me is that I have been working as a teacher for 24 years and I can tell the difference between 14 and 15 Yr olds. Its not that difficult when you come across so many people from the ages of 13 to 19. There is always small chance of an error but its not that hard.

 

[ElRaja]

least impressive of all the young pacers ive seen in psl. how anyone can get to professional level whilst running like that is crazy, its so inefficient.

looks like a less skilled, slower, right hand version of junaid khan. also blatant age fudger, must be 24 or 25 at least.

 

[shamaan]

least impressive of all the young pacers ive seen in psl. how anyone can get to professional level whilst running like that is crazy, its so inefficient.

looks like a less skilled, slower, right hand version of junaid khan. also blatant age fudger, must be 24 or 25 at least.

Hes an all rounder.

 

[Saj]

Commentators mentioned it and they are right.

His run-up needs work.

It's a bit like Haris Rauf and on top of that there is an unusual change of direction there also.

 

[Firebat]

Top class bowling from him in partnership with Hassan

 

[Firebat]

His wicket of Kamran:

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[Artaxerxes]

Commentators mentioned it and they are right.

His run-up needs work.

It's a bit like Haris Rauf and on top of that there is an unusual change of direction there also.

Agree.I am surprised the coaches have not noticed his run up.He played domestic cricked for KPK this season.

 

[Saj]

Agree.I am surprised the coaches have not noticed his run up.He played domestic cricked for KPK this season.

This is what concerns me that young players come into the PSL and first-class cricket with flaws and nothing is done about them, or the changes are attempted when it's too late.

 

[Artaxerxes]

least impressive of all the young pacers ive seen in psl. how anyone can get to professional level whilst running like that is crazy, its so inefficient.

looks like a less skilled, slower, right hand version of junaid khan. also blatant age fudger, must be 24 or 25 at least.

No comment on his age but he not as bad as you make out.His pace is good but needs to sort out his run up.

 

[Savak]

He is a bit predictable. Doesn't have a good bouncer

 

[Bewal Express]

Bowled really well today and showed enough to say that he could make an impact at the higher levels. He is another with the Frisby seam,which never works well at the higher level and he has to improve that to reach his potential

 

[ElRaja]

No comment on his age but he not as bad as you make out.His pace is good but needs to sort out his run up.

his pace is okay, but even qalanders find one or two tape ball bowlers from around Lahore every year with similar pace.

his run up is a massive red flag, but he also bowls with a slanted seam and isnt particularly tall.

i mean im open to changing my mind if someone can highlight one standout feature of his bowling that could indicate potential to develop, unfortunately i dont see any.

 

[Pacy with wisdom]

his pace is okay, but even qalanders find one or two tape ball bowlers from around Lahore every year with similar pace.

his run up is a massive red flag, but he also bowls with a slanted seam and isnt particularly tall.

i mean im open to changing my mind if someone can highlight one standout feature of his bowling that could indicate potential to develop, unfortunately i dont see any.

His bowling action is very good and repeatable. He uses the slingshot very effectively and this is the reason why he has shown good consistency of direction,and bowls 140 plus despite lacking any momentum at the crease.

His seam position is not irredeemable. It is good to bring the ball in and we saw how effective it was today; looked like taking a wicket every ball.

Of course he should learn to make it more upright, to bowl out-swing but that will come when he is more balanced at the crease and not looking to generate all the pace with his arm speed; which can only happen when he has an actual run up behind him.

Sorting out the run up is not difficult at all. Just needs a conscious effort with a bowling coach. Almost all our upcoming fast bowlers have issues with their run ups including Naseem, Rauf and now this guy.
Most of them don't even run correctly and investing in a sprint coach is extremely important for their development.

No matter what you say about his age, it is all conjecture right now. He has enough time to hone his skills, as the raw ability is definitely there.

Those tapias that Qalandars bring out every year are not short on talent, but they lack game sense, and their mindsets are attuned according to an almost different sport altogether. Most of them have already matured and way past the learning curve.

With Wasim, it is different. He has been blooded in early and is already playing all formats, including 4 day cricket.
There is a chance that he develops well, and also a chance that he doesn't; plenty of variables that can make it go either way. But as of now, he is far from a lost cause like you are claiming.

I have not even mentioned the batting ability he possesses.

 

[CricketingMinds]

Wondering what happened to Musa Khan? He was Islamabads young speedster.... Now we have a new one... Have we labeled Musa a failure and moved on?

 

[Pacy with wisdom]

[MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION] seen this guy?
https://youtu.be/39E6NPdUpPU
Watch his opening two overs in the 2nd innings, ball to ball.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

[MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION] seen this guy?
https://youtu.be/39E6NPdUpPU
Watch his opening two overs in the 2nd innings, ball to ball.

Theek hai. Nothing really stands out.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

I am more interested in his batting then bowling , nevertheless his bowling better than Fahim.

 

[Saj]

I am more interested in his batting then bowling , nevertheless his bowling better than Fahim.

Well it looks like he will bat at number 10 or 11 so it would seem we aren't going to see much of his batting in PSL6.

 

[MenInG]

Media reports suggest he could be selected for Pakistan tour of South Africa and Zimbabwe.

 

[Forum363]

Media reports suggest he could be selected for Pakistan tour of South Africa and Zimbabwe.

Terrible news.

I like him, but he is so far from being ready it’s a joke.

He needs to sort his run up out and spend at least a year toiling in domestic cricket.

 

[Pacy with wisdom]

He has decent ability but is extremely raw.

He needs a lot of work on the run up as well as on his batting.
Way too early to hand him a debut.
Keep him in the system, and prepare him for later.
Dont hand a cheap debut. He hasn't earned it.

 

[OMB]

"Mohammad Wasim Jr performed well in domestic cricket where he was excellent in the Pakistan Cup" : Mohammad Wasim

 

[Firebat]

"Mohammad Wasim Jr. is a player who can play as a bowler who can bowl at 140Kph, and he can also perform with the bat as he has shown at the junior level and at the Pakistan Cup" : Mohammad Wasim

 

[Muhammad Saad]

Terrible selection , atleast let him play one full season , he is not one of the odd prodigy type talent.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

There is no doubt that like Shahnawaz Dhani this young lad Mohammad Wasim is a special talent, but this is too early and too easy.

We made the same mistake in the past with Naseem Shah, but these lads need 2-3 seasons in our revamped FC system to mature and gain confidence.

It kind of is unfair to Wasim and Dhani as well because if they do not do well in a few games all of Pak fans will be bashing them as 'failures'.

 

[shah_1]

What a horrible selection

At least Dhani has a good base unlike him. He literally doesn’t have a run up. Now waqar younis has to teach him having a proper run up while he is selected for Pakistan. Pakistan high performance centre is a joke.

 

[Canistani Hero]

Needs to fix his runup ASAP

 

[mazkhan]

So they've ended up selecting someone who hasn't got a run-up lol you couldn't make this up.

I know amad butt is nothing special but he is comfortably better than this muhmmad wasim

 

[Saj]

I wish the lad well, but it looks like another one of those panic selections based on a couple of good performances at the PSL.

PSL seems to equal Panic Selections League.

 

[Pacy with wisdom]

So they've ended up selecting someone who hasn't got a run-up lol you couldn't make this up.

I know amad butt is nothing special but he is comfortably better than this muhmmad wasim

Amad is more polished but has lesser ability than Wasim.
Even with this no run up, he was not very hittable in the PSL and bowled some very good spells.
This shows how strong his action is and the upside he has.

 

[Shahzad1985]

He can’t do no worse than Shinwari, Amad Butt just gets smashed each time you see him bowl. Good luck to the lad chances are he will be just warming the bench but will be a good experience for him to be with the squad and hopefully Waqar can work with him

 

[shamaan]

He has good ability but extremely raw.he should be working on his run up and his batting hes thier for cover for fahim ashraf.

 

[BigShak]

Let’s see if Waqar can atleast sort the poor kids run up out

 

[Ahmed216]

Joke selection. He's far from ready.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Pashtuns always look a bit older than they are. I doubt he’d be older than 23.

I don’t rate his bowling at all. Haven’t seen him so can’t comment much on that. But the only way he will ever be considered for Pakistan is if he develops his batting enough to bat at 7. Whether he’s good enough to do that, we’ll have to wait and see.

Oh comon no human can defy time How can PCB development programme work effectively when its aimed at teenagers but 20 somethings are participating? The metrics are skewed and there needs to be a solution asap.

 

[shah_1]

He is 100% a parchi selection

Pakistan team selection has become a joke

 

[The cricket enthusiast]

Let’s see if Waqar can atleast sort the poor kids run up out

Haha well he must be pssed at wasim selection as in his soo many coaching tenure whenever theirs a fault in a bowler or out of form he replaced them with a youngster and this is like cycle a routine he follows so there's no any blame on him.. whenever someone question him about bowling performance he can give an excuse that he got youngsters and they are work in progress .
The likes of musa,naseem,rahat ali & countless other's.
Mohammad amir recently rise the same issue in one of his interview.

 

[The cricket enthusiast]

Haha well he must be pssed at wasim selection as in his soo many coaching tenure whenever theirs a fault in a bowler or out of form he replaced them with a youngster and this is like cycle a routine he follows so there's no any blame on him.. whenever someone question him about bowling performance he can give an excuse that he got youngsters and they are work in progress .
The likes of musa,naseem,rahat ali & countless other's.
Mohammad amir recently rise the same issue in one of his interview.

P.s he also added if he(waqar) want's all the Ronaldo in his team so that he can just sit back & relax then it's not happening

 

[Saj]

Well it seems like another sightseeing selection there to view the scenery, carry the towels and the drinks.

If you aren't going to pick the lad against a weakened Zimbabwe side, then when are you going to pick him.

 

[Afhan Ali]

Misbah is a shame for entire nation.

 

[Greenstorm]

Should have played atleast a game in this tour. He has more potential than Faheem in LOI cricket.

 

[KhanNn]

Pathans normally look older than their age. We get wrinkles more quickly and we have harsher features. So not surprised he looks older.

Sad to see all the other new players were tried and tested but not him, especially when we are lacking a genuine all rounder like Afridi or Razzaq

 

[mazkhan]

It's a shame we didn't try him out in the t20 series

 

[Titan24]

Pathans normally look older than their age. We get wrinkles more quickly and we have harsher features. So not surprised he looks older.

Sad to see all the other new players were tried and tested but not him, especially when we are lacking a genuine all rounder like Afridi or Razzaq

Pak losing the 2nd match costed him a debut I think.

Should get opportunities going forward as definitely something to work with here. Was going well in PSL too, hopefully when it resumes he can continue to enhance his reputation.

 

[Abdurmirr]

Should have gotten a chance regardless of whatever his skill level is. Just shows the cowardice of our management

 

[Golden arm]

Should have gotten a chance regardless of whatever his skill level is. Just shows the cowardice of our management

Its not the cowardly feeling its actually the fear of being successful and then in a place where you are forced him to play more games!

Seeing his potential he could have bowled better than faheem.

 

[Saj]

Pak losing the 2nd match costed him a debut I think.

Should get opportunities going forward as definitely something to work with here. Was going well in PSL too, hopefully when it resumes he can continue to enhance his reputation.

He might turn out to be terrible, another Danish Aziz, but there is only one way to find out and Zimbabwe was a perfect opportunity to test him.

Now the issue is that if Faheem Ashraf gets injured ahead of a tougher series or the T20 World Cup and this guy is his backup then they will have to throw him in then and he won't have the luxury of having played a few matches at the international level.

 

[shamaan]

He has more potential that fahim in both batting and bowling he should have played atleast 1 game.I don't expect him to debut against England unless fahim gets injured.

 

[Bewal Express]

Misbah and Babar panicked after the defeat in the 2nd T20 game and went back to the tried and tested. Waseem should have been given a game or 2. It would helped his development and if he has the goods,a possible long term selection

 

[Sher Khan]

He might turn out to be terrible, another Danish Aziz, but there is only one way to find out and Zimbabwe was a perfect opportunity to test him.

Now the issue is that if Faheem Ashraf gets injured ahead of a tougher series or the T20 World Cup and this guy is his backup then they will have to throw him in then and he won't have the luxury of having played a few matches at the international level.

Saj, if you are good enough you will do well no matter what. Like Amir did in the 2009 WT20. Picking a few easy wickets against Zimbabwe and then being made to look like a dud in the WT20 won't do us any good.

 

[MenInG]

Some excellent batting from Wasim helping Faheem and his side to a total they can hope to defend.

 

[Saj]

He's already played a couple of shots today against LQ which show that he is no mug with the bat.

 

[IMMY69]

He's already played a couple of shots today against LQ which show that he is no mug with the bat.

Plenty of potential there

 

[MenInG]

Looks the part as well

 

[shamaan]

It seems like he has worked on his run up.overall a good prospect with both bat and ball

 

[shamaan]

It seems like he has worked on his run up.overall a good prospect with both bat and ball

 

[Rana]

Good cricketer!