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[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Should Babar Azam be dropped from the Test team?

But but but BaabAr is entering his prime years??
he is still little bit better than riz :rizthumbsup
Tbf azhar ali was always > him, even though he averages 42, azhar has a double century in aus against a prime aussie attack, and overall 19 centuries. And a 52 avg in aus.

He was very poor in sa and babar is > him in England.

However azhar has been > Babar in every other conditon. It's just people use to use the avg argument but now both have the same avg so you can officially say he's below azhar now.

Now all that's left is to fall behind asad shafiq and fawad alam lol.
 
@RizwanT20Champ

You hate travis for being a HTB correct? Could you please provide me a Pakistani htb? We'd win more tests if that were the case cause babar ain't it 🤣.
 
There is no need for Babar on these pitches. Get someone else in who's good against spin. It's embarrassing watching him against spin.
 
He was about to play a too young and too classy innings backed by the Australian system,

But it wasn’t to be unfortunately

@topspin
 
Babar’s irreversible decline is in full swing. No need to hope against hope that he will get his groove back. He’s done, and is no longer the batsman he promised earlier in his career.

A sad tragic decline of a once great promise.the story of many Pakistani cricketers. Babar is simply the latest addition.
 
On these pitches batsmen will get the benefit of the doubt and escape under the cover of "Everybody failed"
 
On these pitches batsmen will get the benefit of the doubt and escape under the cover of "Everybody failed"
This is a bigger issue though

Pakistan want Babar to end up with an average above Azhar Ali at least. They were hoping for him to be matching Younis, Miandad, Inzimam and Yousuf levels. Above Misbah.

At the moment, you keep persisting with him here he will end up below Asad Shafiq
 
Babar is in an age where you can't expect him to have a peak.So he can't boost his average by waiting for another peak instead he should play in domestic and come back to nation without dropping his average anymore
 
This is a bigger issue though

Pakistan want Babar to end up with an average above Azhar Ali at least. They were hoping for him to be matching Younis, Miandad, Inzimam and Yousuf levels. Above Misbah.

At the moment, you keep persisting with him here he will end up below Asad Shafiq

Yes, the way it’s going, he’ll average under 40. Asad Shafiq standards indeed.
 
This is a bigger issue though

Pakistan want Babar to end up with an average above Azhar Ali at least. They were hoping for him to be matching Younis, Miandad, Inzimam and Yousuf levels. Above Misbah.

At the moment, you keep persisting with him here he will end up below Asad Shafiq
Azhar Ali is still massively >>>> Babar even before he dropped to 42 though?

Yes atm both avg 42, however Azhar has 19 centuries, a 52 avg in aus where he scored a 205 against a prime aussie attack, and 66 avg in bangladesh with a double century, a 33 avg in eng( poor ik) but still has a 141 not out, 44 avg in pakistan and a 53 avg in uae with a triple century to his name.

^^ This isn't a bad record by any means. He's been bang avg in eng, NZ, and a complete joke in sa.

Babar on the other hand, has the same avg but with only 9 centuries. Keep on mind azhar use to avg 46, it declined to 42 due to age post 2017 in test cricket, whereas Babar has declined despite being only 30.

Babar has only been better then azhar in NZ and SA. In eng despite having a high avg he's only.played 4 test games and hasn't scored a single century in eng or Nz conditons?

In uae, Aus, Pak(post ramiz raja), and every other conditon besides Sa and Nz, azhar wipes the floor with Babar.

Babar doesn't have any overseas double centuries either. Or a triple century if you want to count uae as overseas since technically it's our 2nd home and not 1st.
 
Yeah he is cooked. Needs to get back to the domestics for a while, but I can’t see him hitting a peak again.
 
He should be dropped from tests played in Asia/UAE until he learns how to play spin. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
He should be dropped from tests played in Asia/UAE until he learns how to play spin. Nothing more, nothing less.
But he also avergaes 25 in aus which are bilo bounce pace wickets?

And despite a decent record in eng, Nz and sa, He has zero test centuries their. Infact sa and eng test is a grain of salt since I remember those tests and England curated pace friendly flat tracks because both teams knew Pakistan cant outbat them.

He basically wants baby flat wickets to function which would be fine if he was batting like Harry brook on such wickets, however he isnt.

on such wickets he has to fight tooth and nail for every run while others have an easier time scoring.

Even when Pakistan was preparing flat tracks, only shan, Rizwan, agha and saud did well. The likes of Abdullah and babar were pure comedy.
 
@RizwanT20Champ

You hate travis for being a HTB correct? Could you please provide me a Pakistani htb? We'd win more tests if that were the case cause babar ain't it 🤣.
I don't hate Head. I merely pointed out that he's a HTB because you overrate him and apply different standards to different cricketers. Babar was top scorer for Pak in SA - when HTB Head manages something like that we can talk.
 
I don't hate Head. I merely pointed out that he's a HTB because you overrate him and apply different standards to different cricketers. Babar was top scorer for Pak in SA - when HTB Head manages something like that we can talk.
I don't apply different standards to head. I use it to troll Indian posters cause minus 3 to 5 quality indian posters none of them are capable of having an intellectual conversation with me.

The Pakistani + Indian + Bangladeshi (sweepshot) posters on this forumn that are quality, i engage with them in quality discussions. And this includes your favourite Mamoon since while I disagree with him alot, I view him as a quality poster. And hopefully one day I'll view you as one, and not a troll who talks like an anime AI bot.

Anyway my stance on Travis head is that he's in the class of David Warner as a batsmen. He doesn't have the same numbers mainly because he lacks games and peaked late in his career which is why David Warner shall remain > him,

However head and Warner skill wise are the same. Both are monsters at home but average overseas, Both show up for Australia during icc events and both are monstrous t20 players and t20 is clearly their best format.

Babar on the other hand is an awful t20 and test player, Plain and simple. In odi Babar isn't bad, A 56 avg with 19 centuries is good in any era even if this odi era is the easiest.

Problem is Babar is declining at a rapid rate, Since Asia cup 2023, he's averages 45 in odi, and below 30 in tests. In t20 I don't remember his numbers but I believe his strike rate is around the 100 to 110 range which is pathetic and his overall t20 avg dropped from 47 to 39 in these upcoming years.
 
I don't apply different standards to head. I use it to troll Indian posters cause minus 3 to 5 quality indian posters none of them are capable of having an intellectual conversation with me.

The Pakistani + Indian + Bangladeshi (sweepshot) posters on this forumn that are quality, i engage with them in quality discussions. And this includes your favourite Mamoon since while I disagree with him alot, I view him as a quality poster. And hopefully one day I'll view you as one, and not a troll who talks like an anime AI bot.

Anyway my stance on Travis head is that he's in the class of David Warner as a batsmen. He doesn't have the same numbers mainly because he lacks games and peaked late in his career which is why David Warner shall remain > him,

However head and Warner skill wise are the same. Both are monsters at home but average overseas, Both show up for Australia during icc events and both are monstrous t20 players and t20 is clearly their best format.

Babar on the other hand is an awful t20 and test player, Plain and simple. In odi Babar isn't bad, A 56 avg with 19 centuries is good in any era even if this odi era is the easiest.

Problem is Babar is declining at a rapid rate, Since Asia cup 2023, he's averages 45 in odi, and below 30 in tests. In t20 I don't remember his numbers but I believe his strike rate is around the 100 to 110 range which is pathetic and his overall t20 avg dropped from 47 to 39 in these upcoming years.
Not interested in your long paragraphs or how you view me - I would be more worried if you liked me as a poster. You have been caught lying and exposed enough times for your views to be irrelevant. Babar in SA has done more than Head has done anything in his life outside of the opposition's den and this is Babar in his worst form. Tulla Head will regress to the mean sooner rather than later.
 
Not interested in your long paragraphs or how you view me - I would be more worried if you liked me as a poster. You have been caught lying and exposed enough times for your views to be irrelevant. Babar in SA has done more than Head has done anything in his life outside of the opposition's den and this is Babar in his worst form. Tulla Head will regress to the mean sooner rather than later.
False. Head won a world cup for his country, a BGT for his country and a wtc and will likely win Ashes and another wtc for his country.

Babar azam isn't in the same ballpark. Of achievements. He's failed 5 tournaments in a row, has been avg 20+ in test cricket and got dropped vs England in his own home ground. Utter humiliation, just like the one I dish out to you every day.

As for lies, I've never lied, very ironic how a compulsive liar calls others liars 🤣🤣🤣.
 
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