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[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Violent clashes in Aligarh, Delhi after crackdown at Jamia Milia Islamia

Why wasn't no student arrested then. If they rioted and burnt buses surely they would be arrested but the 10 people arrested are non students.

Lathi charge and tear gas you can't back the police on this. They were thrashing students and even breaking bikes parked outside.
And it has got religion to do with as you PM Modi said you can identify these lot with their clothes.
It's like no Indian Muslim has a right to protest or raise their voice against Modi if they do what happened yesterday will happen or even worse.

What is the protest about?
 
They won't hesitate to stoop to any low if it serves their electoral interests.
 
The Indian posters who are celebrating this law are really naive.. they have no idea what this is doing to their national unity. This is the sort of stuff that disenfranchises minorities and their kids grow up to become anti government or unpatriotic anti social belligerents.. only time will tell how far this will go.. but this happened in India before with sikhs..

Oh dont worry close to a billion Indian hindu's support this bill to stamp out the illegal migrants. The unity will always be strong, don't get too excited by a few Indians on PP saying otherwise like MP2011, Phillionder etc... The protest you see on TV, burning buses etc on streets are only minuscule in numbers compared to the united close to a billion hindus...Thank you Jinnah for showing the way and for us to be rid of this curse called Congress Italian Party of India..
 
Oh dont worry close to a billion Indian hindu's support this bill to stamp out the illegal migrants. The unity will always be strong, don't get too excited by a few Indians on PP saying otherwise like MP2011, Phillionder etc... The protest you see on TV, burning buses etc on streets are only minuscule in numbers compared to the united close to a billion hindus...Thank you Jinnah for showing the way and for us to be rid of this curse called Congress Italian Party of India..

Huh? Is this 1bn hindus with you theory based on the lok sabha votes?? If I remember correctly, bjp got 38% vote of 1.6 billion people. That means nearly 600 million people (if actually everyone voted). That’s hardly any close to 1 billion. Come on, try again.:13:
 
India took a large number of Tamils from SL. Irrespective of their religion when the SL civil war was on.

Lol. Read history. The British defeated the Adghans and took control of all Afghan territory south of the Durand line.

Infact after the second Anglo Afghan war , Afghanistan became a British protectorate under the Treaty of Gandamak

So if Afghanistan was a a British protectorate for a short time period that does matter but Sri Lanka (Ceylon) and Myanmar (Burma) were straight up British colonies but that does not matter only because it does not suit your agenda here despite both countries having greater historical links to India?

The mental gymnastics you are having to pull through are something else though. Its hilarious.

First your justification for SL and Myanmar being excluded was that they were not part of British India. When I pointed out Afghanistan not being part of British India you bring in the protectorate angle which totally nullifies your initial argument that only British India was included. If a protectorate is being included then surely other British colonies should also be part of it.

Also btw Burma was under the British Raj

lol how many mental gymnastics will you have to engage in to justify your point.
 
Oh dont worry close to a billion Indian hindu's support this bill to stamp out the illegal migrants. The unity will always be strong, don't get too excited by a few Indians on PP saying otherwise like MP2011, Phillionder etc... The protest you see on TV, burning buses etc on streets are only minuscule in numbers compared to the united close to a billion hindus...Thank you Jinnah for showing the way and for us to be rid of this curse called Congress Italian Party of India..

And by the bye, Only Indian citizens are included here. Not the opinion of the likes of foreigners like you.:)
 
All illegal immigrants should be deported, irrespective of their religion. They can apply legally. Giving citizenship to millions of non tax paying people will burden our already over populated country. Few % people pay income tax, loot them even more. Just for vote bank politics this government is ruining lives of actual Indians.

Dumb decision but not unexpected. Worst part is people actually supporting it. *******.
 
Where did any student done such act. You got proof that any student done that if they did why wasn't they arrested.

And what sort of police raids into a University and attacks students. Even just say few students done something violent, (which they didn't as they didn't get arrested for it) they can't barge into the University and attack all students like that.
All the statements of the students they told what happened but you won't believe that as they are Muslims. Actually their was a non Muslim girl too crying on TV and saying what happened but no she's lying as she's backing the Muslims.

We all know you are one a BJP ***** and will support them no matter what wrong they do.

1. You have proof of students being innocent? Even the supreme court observed that students were violent and destroyed property.

2. Sir i am unaware of any indian law that says that police can't enter university campus. Hindu muslim doesnot matter. You riot, you will be punished.

3. Can you tell me whats pakistans stake in this? I am asking since you think i am bjp, i can say you are pakistani and have your bias.
 
Even the people protesting are stupid, they are protesting because "Muslims" were excluded? Lol

Protest because "WE DO NOT NEED MORE PEOPLE WHO WONT CONTRIBUTE TO THE SOCIETY AND WILL LEECH OF US" rather than because some people were excluded and to include them as well.

But expecting little bit of smartness from our people is expecting too much it seems.
 
Huh? Is this 1bn hindus with you theory based on the lok sabha votes?? If I remember correctly, bjp got 38% vote of 1.6 billion people. That means nearly 600 million people (if actually everyone voted). That’s hardly any close to 1 billion. Come on, try again.:13:

Bjp plus its allies. Plus parties that supported the CAB, thats almost 50% of total electorate.
 
Even the people protesting are stupid, they are protesting because "Muslims" were excluded? Lol

Protest because "WE DO NOT NEED MORE PEOPLE WHO WONT CONTRIBUTE TO THE SOCIETY AND WILL LEECH OF US" rather than because some people were excluded and to include them as well.

But expecting little bit of smartness from our people is expecting too much it seems.

This has worked into bjp's favour. I am afraid its pushing people into Hindutva fold.

I do not support Hindutva, my voting for Bjp is because i dont like minority appeasement parties.

But i dont support hardcore hindutva too. This is pushing people towards that.
 
This has worked into bjp's favour. I am afraid its pushing people into Hindutva fold.

I do not support Hindutva, my voting for Bjp is because i dont like minority appeasement parties.

But i dont support hardcore hindutva too. This is pushing people towards that.

This is what ppl fail to understand, I am not a hindutva or RSS, or Sanghi or whatever else also. I want to live in an environment where we are all treated equally. I hate minority appeasement, matter of fact it is disgusting what is going on my home state Kerala and to top it all off after all this minority appeasement, Kerala is rewarded with these dumb fools from there, going to Syria to fight for ISIS or promote Wahabi extremism..
 
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Pune’s Fergusson College students stage protest against Citizenship Act and NRC

The protest, which was to take place outside the city’s Fergusson College Sunday evening, was denied permission by the police on grounds that it could lead to a possible law and order situation.

Hundreds of students from the city’s noted Fergusson College on Tuesday held a protest rally and a campaign inside the campus against the Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA) and the National Register of Citizens (NRC). They extended their solidarity to students who allegedly endured a police crackdown at the Jamia Millia Islamia University in Delhi.

The protest was organised inside the campus as the Pune police on Monday had denied permission to students to agitate or conduct a signature campaign outside the college.

The Deccan Police Station had sent a notice to Santosh Rasve, a second year Arts student of the college and one of the organisers of the protest, under section 149 (police to prevent cognizable offences) of the Criminal Procedure Code (CrPC) on Monday evening warning them not to protest outside the campus.

According to Mr. Rasve, the Deccan police had first given permission and then immediately reversed their decision on Sunday.

Scores of students from youth wings of political and social outfits including the National Students Union of India (NSUI) and the Loktantrik Janata Dal United participated in the Fergusson protest.

“The shocking, brutal and utterly unwarranted clampdown on the students of the Jamia Millia Islamia is emblematic of the authoritarian tendencies of the BJP-led Central government which aims to stifle progressive thought among students who abide by the Constitution. We will carry on this fight,” said Kuldeep Ambekar, leader of the student wing of Loktantrik Janata Dal United.

The Deccan police on December 15 had similarly refused permission to a protest planned by Pune’s Assamese community against the CAA.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...t-citizenship-act-and-nrc/article30330123.ece
 
NRC is an interesting process

Poor people will be effected by this even if they are Indians, the whole process of providing all those required documents will not be tangible for most.


Which country is going to take in millions of illegal residents? Or they going to build detention camps costing billion of rupees?
 
NRC is an interesting process

Poor people will be effected by this even if they are Indians, the whole process of providing all those required documents will not be tangible for most.


Which country is going to take in millions of illegal residents? Or they going to build detention camps costing billion of rupees?

How did these immigrants came in? They will go back the Same way. Slowly. Already it has started.

Secondly a hostile india to illegal immigrants will stop future infiltrators. Thats more important.
 
Yeah plenty of Support from Kerala, our Mahan leader Pinarayi kallan Vijayan lol

I don;t know about Kerala politics so not sure who that leader is. Anyways, my point is we are overpopulated, and already hundreds of millions can't afford any decent life, why over burden the nation even more by giving these people citizenship? Throw all illegal immigrants out irrespective of their religion. Indian population will over take China soon, pollution levels are at all time high, unemployment is rising, what skills do these people have? They won't get job they will commit crime to meet ends.

Btw check your PM need to ask something.
 
This is what ppl fail to understand, I am not a hindutva or RSS, or Sanghi or whatever else also. I want to live in an environment where we are all treated equally. I hate minority appeasement, matter of fact it is disgusting what is going on my home state Kerala and to top it all off after all this minority appeasement, Kerala is rewarded with these dumb fools from there, going to Syria to fight for ISIS or promote Wahabi extremism..

Kerala and Bengal are in a same kind of situation. Decades of communist and minority appeasing leftist parties have ruined the fabric of those states. I hope people wake up before it's too late.
 
Kerala and Bengal are in a same kind of situation. Decades of communist and minority appeasing leftist parties have ruined the fabric of those states. I hope people wake up before it's too late.

Even if they wake up what they will do?
Like what is going right now.
Instead of focusing on roads,jobs, hospitals, education this govt is doing bulls****.
 
This has worked into bjp's favour. I am afraid its pushing people into Hindutva fold.

I do not support Hindutva, my voting for Bjp is because i dont like minority appeasement parties.

But i dont support hardcore hindutva too. This is pushing people towards that.

I have said it before, rise of BJP is all fault of Congress and regional parties. If they did their job even half as good as they were supposed to BJP would never have grown as much as it has in last decade or so.

BJP's current policies will result in rise of another political party in future, one can hope that party will actually be good and not indulge in some other form of religious/caste-ist/divisive politics.
 
1. You have proof of students being innocent? Even the supreme court observed that students were violent and destroyed property.

2. Sir i am unaware of any indian law that says that police can't enter university campus. Hindu muslim doesnot matter. You riot, you will be punished.

3. Can you tell me whats pakistans stake in this? I am asking since you think i am bjp, i can say you are pakistani and have your bias.

If students destroyed property they would have been arrested just like the other 10 people they arrested who destroyed public property and were violent.

Did i say they can't enter. You just making nonsense up. If they entered to arrest some students then that's different but they didn't arrest no student. And the proof of videos shows what they done. Attacked and thrashed students, damaged the university and public property like their bikes.

What has Pakistan or any stake got to do with this. All I see you do is bring Pakistan in every conversation. And what bias would I have to a Indian. If someone is doing wrong I will say regardless of if they Muslim or Hindu unlike yourself.
 
Even if they wake up what they will do?
Like what is going right now.
Instead of focusing on roads,jobs, hospitals, education this govt is doing bulls****.

All governments focus on irrelevant issues. The relevant issues are hard to work on so they all take easy way out to stay in power and make money.
 
Even if they wake up what they will do?
Like what is going right now.
Instead of focusing on roads,jobs, hospitals, education this govt is doing bulls****.

Is your argument that why Ministry of Home Affairs is not focussing on road, jobs, health and education?
 
How did these immigrants came in? They will go back the Same way. Slowly. Already it has started.

Secondly a hostile india to illegal immigrants will stop future infiltrators. Thats more important.

Not going to be that easy

Bangladesh is just not going to accept millions of people into their country espeically if the people identified have no record in Bangladesh.
 
Is your argument that why Ministry of Home Affairs is not focussing on road, jobs, health and education?

Iam talking in general.
Don't drag to Home Ministry Affairs,
Half of the blame goes to media they show the news 24/7 which is trending and don't show the other news.
 
I don;t know about Kerala politics so not sure who that leader is. Anyways, my point is we are overpopulated, and already hundreds of millions can't afford any decent life, why over burden the nation even more by giving these people citizenship? Throw all illegal immigrants out irrespective of their religion. Indian population will over take China soon, pollution levels are at all time high, unemployment is rising, what skills do these people have? They won't get job they will commit crime to meet ends.

Btw check your PM need to ask something.

So you are in favour of NRC but not the CAA. It is so confusing as people are protesting for different reasons. Some want everyone to be included, some want none to be included, some want everyone to be thrown out, some want only religious persecuted to be allowed.
 
All governments focus on irrelevant issues. The relevant issues are hard to work on so they all take easy way out to stay in power and make money.

This,The same thing has done by Congress by showing secularism instead of focusing on other things.
 
Iam talking in general.
Don't drag to Home Ministry Affairs,
Half of the blame goes to media they show the news 24/7 which is trending and don't show the other news.

But this act is by MHA, and was promised in the manifesto. Are you saying MHA is not letting other ministries to focus on their work? Please clarify your point.
 
Yes by distracting other things and to hide the work.

MHA is distracting other ministries and hiding the work done by them? When the finance ministry tables the budget, will she be distracting other ministries and hiding their work? When Railway ministry does something it is distracting other ministries? OK, but HOW?
 
So you are in favour of NRC but not the CAA. It is so confusing as people are protesting for different reasons. Some want everyone to be included, some want none to be included, some want everyone to be thrown out, some want only religious persecuted to be allowed.

Yes, I don't want any illegal immigrant in India. All should be deported, if someone wants to live in India, apply through legal methods.

What contribution will they bring to my country? All the will do is become a vote bank for the highest bidder and get used during election times and stop the actual focus on improvement of quality of life for us Indians. Or they will commit crimes to meet ends. Or they will die because of extreme heat/cold.

India is way too over populated to accept millions of people and give them citizenship. Tomorrow more and more illegal immigrants will come in, change their name to Hindu name and claim refuge, we will keep giving them citizenship?

What about the rights of people who actually contribute to the country? Don't we deserve a better standard of life or are we supposed to live a mediocre/poor standard of life just so that people from other country who are on verge of being persecuted can live a poor standard of life in India?

One can preach about Humanity but when you make a law based on religion you lose the argument of Humanity.
 
MHA is distracting other ministries and hiding the work done by them? When the finance ministry tables the budget, will she be distracting other ministries and hiding their work? When Railway ministry does something it is distracting other ministries? OK, but HOW?

I will not say hiding but I will say not working on the issue instead of that they distract other things like hindu/muslim issues through media.
 
Yes, I don't want any illegal immigrant in India. All should be deported, if someone wants to live in India, apply through legal methods.

What contribution will they bring to my country? All the will do is become a vote bank for the highest bidder and get used during election times and stop the actual focus on improvement of quality of life for us Indians. Or they will commit crimes to meet ends. Or they will die because of extreme heat/cold.

India is way too over populated to accept millions of people and give them citizenship. Tomorrow more and more illegal immigrants will come in, change their name to Hindu name and claim refuge, we will keep giving them citizenship?

What about the rights of people who actually contribute to the country? Don't we deserve a better standard of life or are we supposed to live a mediocre/poor standard of life just so that people from other country who are on verge of being persecuted can live a poor standard of life in India?

One can preach about Humanity but when you make a law based on religion you lose the argument of Humanity.

Ok, your opinion has the total weight of 1/900 million. If more such votes combine, probably they have a govt which will throw out every illegal immigrant, even if they are fleeing persecution. But till that time comes, you need to accept that the current govt has the mandate to implement anything within the constitutional framework and if you have a problem with that, there are legal recourses available. If the law violates the consitution, it will be declared null and void by the supreme court. Surely you must have faith in the judiciary.

The constitution in the chapter on fundamental rights, makes many exceptions based on religion, gender, caste. Do you think those rights have no moral base and have lost the argument because they are laws based on certain identities of the citizens?
 
I will not say hiding but I will say not working on the issue instead of that they distract other things like hindu/muslim issues through media.

Not the govt's fault if media wants to focus on particular things. If govt wanted to distract, it would be highlighting only controversies on the state news channels. Why don't you want the govt channels like DD, LokSabha and Rajya Sabha TV if you think other media are distracting?
 
Even the people protesting are stupid, they are protesting because "Muslims" were excluded? Lol

Protest because "WE DO NOT NEED MORE PEOPLE WHO WONT CONTRIBUTE TO THE SOCIETY AND WILL LEECH OF US" rather than because some people were excluded and to include them as well.

But expecting little bit of smartness from our people is expecting too much it seems.

Indian muslims are protesting against NRC because of the fear of losing their Indian Citizenship. With this hostile government in the centre and the appeasement politics they are doing in the name of hindutva and not to mention the stooges they have placed in the higher positions who will bend for their will whenever that suits them... it doesn’t feel secular anymore. I don’t know much about NRC but its sure going to ruin the lives of many Indian Muslims who lack proper documents.
 

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Ok, your opinion has the total weight of 1/900 million. If more such votes combine, probably they have a govt which will throw out every illegal immigrant, even if they are fleeing persecution. But till that time comes, you need to accept that the current govt has the mandate to implement anything within the constitutional framework and if you have a problem with that, there are legal recourses available. If the law violates the consitution, it will be declared null and void by the supreme court. Surely you must have faith in the judiciary.

The constitution in the chapter on fundamental rights, makes many exceptions based on religion, gender, caste. Do you think those rights have no moral base and have lost the argument because they are laws based on certain identities of the citizens?

Dude we are on pakpassion.net forums. These forums are to give your opinions, there is no one from government or anti government here. We give opinions that's all. To raise displeasure with the decision there are other legal means which we can take up.

Also, why are you posting somewhat logically? Go back to your joker trolling ways, those are much more fun.
 
Indian muslims are protesting against NRC because of the fear of losing their Indian Citizenship. With this hostile government in the centre and the appeasement politics they are doing in the name of hindutva and not to mention the stooges they have placed in the higher positions who will bend for their will whenever that suits them... it doesn’t feel secular anymore. I don’t know much about NRC but its sure going to ruin the lives of many Indian Muslims who lack proper documents.

This is a point I raised in another thread, that the main issue is because of inaccuracies and errors. Doubt they have a system in place which has zero false positives.

But you do agree in principle, that it is needed as you are against burdening the country with illegal immigrants?
 
I have said it before, rise of BJP is all fault of Congress and regional parties. If they did their job even half as good as they were supposed to BJP would never have grown as much as it has in last decade or so.

BJP's current policies will result in rise of another political party in future, one can hope that party will actually be good and not indulge in some other form of religious/caste-ist/divisive politics.

But the current polarisation is worrying. The opposition is making every effort to push people into Hindutva fold. Thats dangerous for two reasons.

1. Bjp will keep winning Elections even if they mess up. Thats extremely dangerous for the democracy.

2. Its polarising almost 80 per cent of the population into Hardcore hindutva. Thats not good.

Political parties should have fought this in the courts and in Elections. Congress hasnot said it will repeal the act if it comes to power. Using a section of minorities and minority institutions as a tool is only helping BJP.
 
Indian muslims are protesting against NRC because of the fear of losing their Indian Citizenship. With this hostile government in the centre and the appeasement politics they are doing in the name of hindutva and not to mention the stooges they have placed in the higher positions who will bend for their will whenever that suits them... it doesn’t feel secular anymore. I don’t know much about NRC but its sure going to ruin the lives of many Indian Muslims who lack proper documents.

I guess the government does fear mongering and Muslims are skeptical about the intentions of the government, also the lack of trust by Muslims towards BJP might make it seem like the government is doing this to get rid of Muslims. However, I do not believe that is their intention, but I might be wrong you never know with these people in power.
 
But the current polarisation is worrying. The opposition is making every effort to push people into Hindutva fold. Thats dangerous for two reasons.

1. Bjp will keep winning Elections even if they mess up. Thats extremely dangerous for the democracy.

2. Its polarising almost 80 per cent of the population into Hardcore hindutva. Thats not good.

Political parties should have fought this in the courts and in Elections. Congress hasnot said it will repeal the act if it comes to power. Using a section of minorities and minority institutions as a tool is only helping BJP.

Agreed with both your points.

Opposition is looking out for themselves, they are also power hungry and only care about themselves. If they say openly that they will repeal this act when they come to power, they risk losing a lot of Hindu votes. So they are trying to play both sides and instigate through student politics and low level party workers instigating protests.

End of the day, you and me are losing as buses being torched and public property being destroyed is due to "our" money.
 
Indian muslims are protesting against NRC because of the fear of losing their Indian Citizenship. With this hostile government in the centre and the appeasement politics they are doing in the name of hindutva and not to mention the stooges they have placed in the higher positions who will bend for their will whenever that suits them... it doesn’t feel secular anymore. I don’t know much about NRC but its sure going to ruin the lives of many Indian Muslims who lack proper documents.

There is no country wide NRC.

Even in Assam NRC the total number of Muslims declared as foreigners is less than 5 per cent of the total population of Assam.

The debate should be on how the system should function that no one genuine is left out. Have the judiciary handle the process. Let high courts monitor it in states and Supreme court do the overall monitoring.

The debate should be on how to better the system and not do violent protests.

Tell me how this protest will help? Its only helping turn people into Hardcore hindutva.
 
Agreed with both your points.

Opposition is looking out for themselves, they are also power hungry and only care about themselves. If they say openly that they will repeal this act when they come to power, they risk losing a lot of Hindu votes. So they are trying to play both sides and instigate through student politics and low level party workers instigating protests.

End of the day, you and me are losing as buses being torched and public property being destroyed is due to "our" money.

See i understand that some Muslims are apprehensive. And the actual debate should be how to have a system where no genuine citizen is left out and no political interference can happen. No one is talking on that.

This protest will not change the law. The law can either be repealed by parliament or struck down by supreme court. Neither of which will be achieved by the protests.

With 303 MPs no one is bringing down Modi. Its wishful thinking.
 
This is a point I raised in another thread, that the main issue is because of inaccuracies and errors. Doubt they have a system in place which has zero false positives.

But you do agree in principle, that it is needed as you are against burdening the country with illegal immigrants?

How can you expect the common people to believe that such a fool proof system with no false negatives can work out here in India? Such things are unheard of here. And who knows the results will be manipulated by the people in the centre according to their will? There is no trust left.
 
I guess the government does fear mongering and Muslims are skeptical about the intentions of the government, also the lack of trust by Muslims towards BJP might make it seem like the government is doing this to get rid of Muslims. However, I do not believe that is their intention, but I might be wrong you never know with these people in power.


What intentions of the government are you talking about?
 
How can you expect the common people to believe that such a fool proof system with no false negatives can work out here in India? Such things are unheard of here. And who knows the results will be manipulated by the people in the centre according to their will? There is no trust left.

Let judiciary handle the thing.
 
How can you expect the common people to believe that such a fool proof system with no false negatives can work out here in India? Such things are unheard of here. And who knows the results will be manipulated by the people in the centre according to their will? There is no trust left.

I agree. This is the main concern and question must be asked to the govt. Govt must ensure that there should not be even one false positive. But many who are protesting are using the path of anarchy and not delivering their concern, which will only create more divisions and harm their cause.

Most of the people protesting have not read the constitution or the bill and are all over the place with their protests.

You do agree in principle that such a thing is needed ( as you dont want burden on the country by illegal immigrants) but you don't agree that this can be executed with 0% error, right?
 
What intentions of the government are you talking about?

Their real intention is to stay in power for next 50 years :)

For this bill specifically, one can say their intention is not to have any impact on Indian citizens.
 
Dude we are on pakpassion.net forums. These forums are to give your opinions, there is no one from government or anti government here. We give opinions that's all. To raise displeasure with the decision there are other legal means which we can take up.

Also, why are you posting somewhat logically? Go back to your joker trolling ways, those are much more fun.

So you agree that the fundamental rights have no moral base in the constitution?
 
Even the people protesting are stupid, they are protesting because "Muslims" were excluded? Lol

Protest because "WE DO NOT NEED MORE PEOPLE WHO WONT CONTRIBUTE TO THE SOCIETY AND WILL LEECH OF US" rather than because some people were excluded and to include them as well.

But expecting little bit of smartness from our people is expecting too much it seems.

Bro there are lot of people who have been living as legal refugees for more than 15 years without citizenship, Sikhs, Hindus and Afghan Muslims as well.

This bill is required imo for legal ones..as they should have path for citizenship..
 
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I agree. This is the main concern and question must be asked to the govt. Govt must ensure that there should not be even one false positive. But many who are protesting are using the path of anarchy and not delivering their concern, which will only create more divisions and harm their cause.

Most of the people protesting have not read the constitution or the bill and are all over the place with their protests.

You do agree in principle that such a thing is needed ( as you dont want burden on the country by illegal immigrants) but you don't agree that this can be executed with 0% error, right?

Yes, i agree with it in principle. It would be good especially for the Northeast who is suffering this burden of illegal migrants. But here votebank politics is more important than the concerns of its citizen. So nobody gonna fix it.
 
Their real intention is to stay in power for next 50 years :)

For this bill specifically, one can say their intention is not to have any impact on Indian citizens.

North east is protesting against this bill? Aren’t they Indian citizens?

And why burden ourselves by adding more to our population including this mess that is created now?
 
[MENTION=133135]kaayal[/MENTION] I feel you are taking the side of no refugees just because of this bill, if anything you are giving into right wing.

There are videos out there of Sikh families that that have been living for more than 25 years legally as refugees without citizenship, similar with Afghan Muslims.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">RT. In this video from <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DelhiUniversity?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DelhiUniversity</a> today, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ABVP?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ABVP</a> activists heckling a student from Kerala at Chhatra Marg over his position on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CAA?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CAA</a>.They are also desperate to make a concise video to give a message loud & clear to dissenters. <a href="https://twitter.com/DelhiPolice?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@delhipolice</a>,some are more equal than the others? <a href="https://t.co/kNfcmaQF0d">pic.twitter.com/kNfcmaQF0d</a></p>— Neha Dixit (@nehadixit123) <a href="https://twitter.com/nehadixit123/status/1206947402579615749?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">RT. In this video from <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DelhiUniversity?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DelhiUniversity</a> today, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ABVP?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ABVP</a> activists heckling a student from Kerala at Chhatra Marg over his position on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CAA?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CAA</a>.They are also desperate to make a concise video to give a message loud & clear to dissenters. <a href="https://twitter.com/DelhiPolice?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@delhipolice</a>,some are more equal than the others? <a href="https://t.co/kNfcmaQF0d">pic.twitter.com/kNfcmaQF0d</a></p>— Neha Dixit (@nehadixit123) <a href="https://twitter.com/nehadixit123/status/1206947402579615749?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2019</a></blockquote>
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lol these macho dudes need to watch themselves. There are plenty of their Northie refugees flooding the South looking for a better life :vk
 
[MENTION=133135]kaayal[/MENTION] I feel you are taking the side of no refugees just because of this bill, if anything you are giving into right wing.

There are videos out there of Sikh families that that have been living for more than 25 years legally as refugees without citizenship, similar with Afghan Muslims.

I think people take a stand based on who is the ruling party instead of based on merit/ideology. congress and bjp have earned this distrust.
 
[MENTION=133135]kaayal[/MENTION] I feel you are taking the side of no refugees just because of this bill, if anything you are giving into right wing.

There are videos out there of Sikh families that that have been living for more than 25 years legally as refugees without citizenship, similar with Afghan Muslims.

Sikhs will get Citizenship according to the new law. Afghan Muslims will be suffering I guess.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">RT. In this video from <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DelhiUniversity?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DelhiUniversity</a> today, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ABVP?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ABVP</a> activists heckling a student from Kerala at Chhatra Marg over his position on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CAA?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CAA</a>.They are also desperate to make a concise video to give a message loud & clear to dissenters. <a href="https://twitter.com/DelhiPolice?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@delhipolice</a>,some are more equal than the others? <a href="https://t.co/kNfcmaQF0d">pic.twitter.com/kNfcmaQF0d</a></p>— Neha Dixit (@nehadixit123) <a href="https://twitter.com/nehadixit123/status/1206947402579615749?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Our people are now in target i guess. May be because of those 2 malayali girls and that malayali boy’s video going viral.
 
Sikhs will get Citizenship according to the new law. Afghan Muslims will be suffering I guess.

Yes.. so its better to support the law that doesn’t discriminate on religion..

Right wing wants it to be an issue thats why they designed it that way..

We can give the power to states and leave it to them, for example Delhi will take it, Kerala and TN will as well..Assam clearly doesn’t want it..
 
I need help finding this genius Modi bh@kt with lakhs of followers.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Myanmar to India- 1769 kms<br>Myanmar to China.- 2km<br><br>But,<br>Why the Rohingyas want to come to India and not China?<br><br>Because Unlike India,<br> <br>there are<br>no seculars<br>no Intellectuals<br>no anti nationals<br>no congress in China,<br>who support Rohingyas <a href="https://t.co/UKtbly3zqs">pic.twitter.com/UKtbly3zqs</a></p>— Mahesh Vikram Hegde (@mvmeet) <a href="https://twitter.com/mvmeet/status/1206894576872480768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Bjp plus its allies. Plus parties that supported the CAB, thats almost 50% of total electorate.

That's still only 600 million people instead of the 1 billion. Plus, are we assuming all BJP supporters and supporters of its allies are supporting this bill? It's kind of like saying everyone who voted for Trump support his racism. I am sure a good chunk do, but not all.
 
Yes.. so its better to support the law that doesn’t discriminate on religion..

Right wing wants it to be an issue thats why they designed it that way..

We can give the power to states and leave it to them, for example Delhi will take it, Kerala and TN will as well..Assam clearly doesn’t want it..

CAA is discriminatory and i am against it.
 
Btw check your PM need to ask something.

You cannot send PM here, you can however send a message to one of the mods. Send mods your email and request them to pass it to me and I will respond to your email, if the Mods are ok with it.
 
I need help finding this genius Modi bh@kt with lakhs of followers.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Myanmar to India- 1769 kms<br>Myanmar to China.- 2km<br><br>But,<br>Why the Rohingyas want to come to India and not China?<br><br>Because Unlike India,<br> <br>there are<br>no seculars<br>no Intellectuals<br>no anti nationals<br>no congress in China,<br>who support Rohingyas <a href="https://t.co/UKtbly3zqs">pic.twitter.com/UKtbly3zqs</a></p>— Mahesh Vikram Hegde (@mvmeet) <a href="https://twitter.com/mvmeet/status/1206894576872480768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Lol this is the stupidest twitter post I’ve ever seen and that’s saying something g
 
So if Afghanistan was a a British protectorate for a short time period that does matter but Sri Lanka (Ceylon) and Myanmar (Burma) were straight up British colonies but that does not matter only because it does not suit your agenda here despite both countries having greater historical links to India?

The mental gymnastics you are having to pull through are something else though. Its hilarious.

First your justification for SL and Myanmar being excluded was that they were not part of British India. When I pointed out Afghanistan not being part of British India you bring in the protectorate angle which totally nullifies your initial argument that only British India was included. If a protectorate is being included then surely other British colonies should also be part of it.

Also btw Burma was under the British Raj

lol how many mental gymnastics will you have to engage in to justify your point.

Nice to see joshila Bhai give up and not engage in even more mental gymnastics :))
 
Our faith in judiciary is also swinging tbh. How couldn’t they even order any action against those miscreants who demolished the babri mosque?

Thats a separate criminal case thays ongoing.

The case decided by SC is the title suit only.

So no faith in judiciary legislative and executive?

Good. So the constitution is of no use.

No problem. Lets do a referendum to make a new constitution? Ok?
 
If India cares about persecuted minorities in Pak and Bangla, then they should also invite Ahmedis and Shias.

Inviting only Hindus, Christians, Sikhs and Buddhists shows a clear conspiracy against Muslims in general.

BJP doing its best to divert peoples attention from slowing economy and increasing joblessness.
 
So if Afghanistan was a a British protectorate for a short time period that does matter but Sri Lanka (Ceylon) and Myanmar (Burma) were straight up British colonies but that does not matter only because it does not suit your agenda here despite both countries having greater historical links to India?

The mental gymnastics you are having to pull through are something else though. Its hilarious.

First your justification for SL and Myanmar being excluded was that they were not part of British India. When I pointed out Afghanistan not being part of British India you bring in the protectorate angle which totally nullifies your initial argument that only British India was included. If a protectorate is being included then surely other British colonies should also be part of it.

Also btw Burma was under the British Raj

lol how many mental gymnastics will you have to engage in to justify your point.

What links with SL and Myanmar?

Afghanistan is only included because the durand line which was the defacto border allowed almost free passage of people.

There were many countries under british imperalism. We do not have the responsibility towards all of them.

The Agenda is simple, persecuted non muslim minorities from the three islamic countries are welcome.

Proponents of partition are not.
 
If India cares about persecuted minorities in Pak and Bangla, then they should also invite Ahmedis and Shias.

Inviting only Hindus, Christians, Sikhs and Buddhists shows a clear conspiracy against Muslims in general.

BJP doing its best to divert peoples attention from slowing economy and increasing joblessness.

Muslims are not minorities in a islamic Republic.
 
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