Why can’t both things be true? Root is probably one of the best ever England batsmen, maybe it’s not even Root’s captaincy that was holding them back.
That Ollie Pope innings is legendary - especially if England pull of the victory here!
Well there we go. Stokes the captain just won the test match with some brilliant captaincy to come from 200 runs behind in the first innings. How often does that happen?
and he gets teh win
What?? Struggling to save a test match by playing attritional cricket? What game were you watching.
Stokes just said in the post match interview that Bazball is essentially when the ambition to win clearly outstrips the fear of failure and this is what England have been doing unlike our mental midgets...long it may continue....
He has been poor and struggles against the pacers as hands are low. Here he played one of the great innings
Yes, so he is on par with Joe Root now who also won the first Test in the 2021 series and he didn’t have the luxury of facing an Indian team that didn’t have Kohli and Pant.
So?
So Root and Stokes are on par now. Both won the first Test.
Failure is the name of your team!
You mean the 2023 ashes when England would have won the series had it not been for rain? A feat no other touring English side has come close to recently.
And sorry, just to put this into perspective. Ashes 2021/22. Joe Root captains England to an abysmal 4:0 destruction.
Oh wait, I didn't even realise. Root was captain for the 2017/18 ashes series as well. Guess what the score was then... oh yes England got destroyed 4:0.
Winning the match from the position England were in will be counted among the remarkable feats in the history of cricket. India will make a comeback and may win the series but that will take nothing away from this victory in any way.
Wow this aged well too
In the last 17 Test matches that Joe Root was captain, they won only 1 of them.
Rain didn’t cost England; Stokes’ stupid declaration in the first Test did. He gifted Australia a 1-0 lead and.
No one asked England to be under the pump. Winning by dominating from the word go is better than making a comeback.
England have picked up a lot of soft wins since Stokes took over and they have had favorable circumstances too.
Failure is the name of the team that hasn’t even managed to draw a Test match in Australia since Miandad’s retirement.
Another example of Stokes’ selfishness: he made himself available for the IPL with a bad knee even though the Ashes was only a month away.
You lose all credibility when you want someone like Root to remain as captain because he is ‘always available’ vs Stokes because he took rest in certain matches.
No Anderson
Now, as you may not share the same enthusiasm for the bazball technique, it seems you have taken an extremely critical stance against Stokes.
They made wicket which was quite horrible for India tooNo Anderson
No Robinson
No Brook
Stokes can't bowl
Shoaib Bashir's Visa cancelled
Debutant Hartley
2nd Match for Rehan
Playing at Home
Still lost the game
More than anticipated player availability, any player who has demonstrated, on multiple occasions, that he has no qualms about putting himself above his team should be excluded from any leadership roles.
See that is my problem with Bazball and how England are trying to sell this idea that they are revolutionizing Test cricket and making it more attractive and exciting.
Anderson and Robinson were not selected. There is a difference between not getting selected and not being available.No Anderson
No Robinson
No Brook
Stokes can't bowl
Shoaib Bashir's Visa cancelled
Debutant Hartley
2nd Match for Rehan
Playing at Home
Still lost the game
Well what can be said when you're making excuses. Rohit's absence made Indian bowlers concede 375 at 5.5 rpo ?
If you don't watch Test cricket and don't have proper time to watch, then please do not generalize this (like a third world country's citizen perspective) on all cricket fans. Of course, nobody has that much time to watch Test matches for 5 complete days ball by ball. Of course not, but that is the format, and as fans/spectators, we cannot do anything with the longevity of the match. But if there will be some excitement like in the previous test match or in the previous Ashes series, then of course, any cricket fan will be excited to watch/get updates on a timely basis and will be attracted.
He didn’t take rest in certain matches. he opted out of the 2021 series vs India and the 2021 T20 World Cup because of selfish reasons.
I will apply if he misses an entire high-profile series and an ICC tournament.
Stokes retired 15 months before the World Cup. In those 15 months, England were only scheduled to play 7-8 ODIs. What workload?
It applies to any player who opts out of international duty to play IPL or any other franchise league. It is obviously a selfish decision motivated by money.
If Stokes didn’t do the suicidal declaration in the first Test, England would have entered the fifth Test 3-1 up. So yes, they didn’t win because of his declaration not because of the rain.
So to summarize, no one has started to watch Test cricket due to Bazball because they don’t have the time to do so. It doesn’t matter what the run rate is or how you are trying or produce a result, the point is that most people cannot afford to commit to an 5 days x 8 hours schedule.If you don't watch Test cricket and don't have proper time to watch, then please do not generalize this (like a third world country's citizen perspective) on all cricket fans. Of course, nobody has that much time to watch Test matches for 5 complete days ball by ball. Of course not, but that is the format, and as fans/spectators, we cannot do anything with the longevity of the match. But if there will be some excitement like in the previous test match or in the previous Ashes series, then of course, any cricket fan will be excited to watch/get updates on a timely basis and will be attracted.
Bazball is not about playing at 6 runs per over; it's a whole new thing to ensure producing results out of a Test match. I do not understand why subcontinental people are always reluctant to adopt new things initially and then completely dissolve themselves later on when they see the positive results of it.
As a die-hard cricket fan, I never miss any Test match. By "missing," I mean I always follow it or get updates. A Test match is like a good, proper meal - a main course. Of course, a dessert or an appetizer may give you more taste and pleasure, but completeness comes with the main course.
I am certain that they did not claim that only bazball can save Test cricket. They have invented their own style to play Test matches, so what's wrong with that? If they are asserting themselves as the saviors of Test cricket, it's better to wait and see the end result, which will take some time. Anyway, they are the inventors of this game, so let's give them some space to make their claim and prove it.
Altough I agree with that all these Bazball thing is overrated and overstated I know people who are watching test matches very closely since this Bazball thing has started only because of Stokes.
Kohli, Sharma, Bumrah and Ashwin are all better cricketers than Stokes. Stokes is better than anyone in Pakistan though and that should worry you more than your creepy obsession with India.
None of the guys you named is as good as Stokes.
Kohli is as good as Stokes if not better.
No way.
Hasn't kohli smashed Pakistan a million times and won 2 icc trophies. And lol at kohli only being stats (that would be babar) , he is one of the goats and fat better than batsman Pakistan has ever produced, that's you desperately cling on to any non indian batsman.
Kohli, with an average of less than 50, not many great innings in the test format is hardly a great.
Kohli averages a shade below 50, just like inzamam. If he isn't a test great then the same goes for inzi.
, kohli averages 54 in aus and 50 in sa, 2 places where all the so called pakistani batting greats have miserably failed. Are you saying Kohli hasn't won matches for India.
Younis Khan averages 50+ against Australia.Kohli averages a shade below 50, just like inzamam. If he isn't a test great then the same goes for inzi.
Easy runs
Stokes has failed to win a test series in ind and aus and hasn't won an ashes in eng either, hardly a great.
Stokes had a miserable wc in 2023,so for engs sake he should have batted a bit selfishly
Miandad averages 38 in Australia.
Didn't he win the 2014 t20 semis against sa, the 2013 ct final against eng.
Virat Kohli averages 33 in England and 36 in NZ which is boosted by a century where India allowed NZ to score 600+ when they were 80 for 5. He was also caught behind on 0 but since India didn't allow the use of Drs hence he got a century so in reality his average would have been around 20 odd there too.
Ashwin has won 2 icc trophies.
