[PICTURES] Will the ICC monitor the curation of pitches for the World Cup or the ECB?

[Rana]

Honest question. If the curation of the pitches is left in the hands of the ECB and county groundsmen, then be prepared for a very boring World Cup. ECB do not seem to have any interest in preparing tracks that offer an equal balance to bat and ball.

A lot of people argued at the time when Pakistan beat England in the Semi final of the CT that it was an ICC prepared wicket hence England misread the track.

 

[Lopuy]

Pitches in ICC events are prepared by ICC. Rest assured, you will see more competitive matches with scores between 250- 300.

 

[HitWicket]

The pitches are prepared by the local groundsman under some guideance from the ICC. All knockout pitches will be fresh.

 

[Rana]

The pitches are prepared by the local groundsman under some guideance from the ICC. All knockout pitches will be fresh.

Therefore our bowlers are doomed.

We might as well pick Wahab Riaz, Harris Rauf and Mohammad Hasnain as our 3 pacemen. At least there is a chance of these guys knocking the poles out against aggressive batsmen

 

[Hawkeye]

Nobody has an interest in striving for 'equal balance' between bat and ball.

Everyone wants to see boundaries and sixes. It's what they pay to come to the ground and watch a match. Plus audience at the TV also enjoys it.

It's how things will be in future, we better adapt to it.

Bowlers with extraordinary skills will still succeed, be it spinners or pacers. We need to find those bowlers.

Batsmen today are lofting yorkers for sixes. Batsmen 10 years ago couldn't even dream of doing it. Things change.

 

[Stewie]

ICC directs curation in their events but of course the local curators do the work.

If you go by their record, ICC favors high scoring tournaments. This won’t be any different. On a sunny day, 330 will be par score. Bowlers sirf pitney keliey ayein gay unless it’s bhumrah, Boult, Starc, malinga maybe.. even spinners will go for plenty because they will be fresh pitches.

 

[mumtaz]

Expect the scores to become lower as the tournament wears on. That is when Pakistan will become dangerous with reverse swing and spinners coming into the picture.

Pakistan should ensure that they beat WI and SL when the pitches are fresh. Even if they lose to England, Australia and India, I expect them to have more than an even chance to win the remaining 4 must-win games against SA, NZ, Afg and Ban on the trot when the pitches start slowing up.

 

[HitWicket]

Expect the scores to become lower as the tournament wears on. That is when Pakistan will become dangerous with reverse swing and spinners coming into the picture.

Pakistan should ensure that they beat WI and SL when the pitches are fresh. Even if they lose to England, Australia and India, I expect them to have more than an even chance to win the remaining 4 must-win games against SA, NZ, Afg and Ban on the trot when the pitches start slowing up.

The most games played at a single ground will be 5, chances are the majority of games (even towards the end of the group stages) will be on fresh pitches.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Considering the ICC are in charge of preparing them, I doubt it, unless they plan on fining themselves.

 

[mumtaz]

The most games played at a single ground will be 5, chances are the majority of games (even towards the end of the group stages) will be on fresh pitches.

Well we did get used pitches against SA and Eng in the CT, so there is hope.

 

[the Great Khan]

we will wait and see...back in the day we didnt have two new white balls to worry about and this allowed our bowlers to use reverse swing and cutters etc..now its just up and down and into the crowd..

i swear if this is what the WC will be I'm turning off..we have never adapted to the rules because these "rules" neutered us..its almost as if they were made to reduce the very skills that made us dangerous..mnnh..

whats the point setting a target as every target is within reach..so put the opposition into bat..and then chase..

its just a complete waste of time..

 

[barah_admi]

Honest question. If the curation of the pitches is left in the hands of the ECB and county groundsmen, then be prepared for a very boring World Cup. ECB do not seem to have any interest in preparing tracks that offer an equal balance to bat and ball.

A lot of people argued at the time when Pakistan beat England in the Semi final of the CT that it was an ICC prepared wicket hence England misread the track.

As previously mentioned, tournament pitches are normally prepared by the ICC, having said that, all tournament pitches in recent times have been flat. Maybe not as flat as Bristol but pretty close to them.

 

[MenInG]

Interesting comparison

 

[JibranAnsari]

Pakistan got a bouncy one and sl got a green one. Will be good to see if we see a green wicket when two sena teams meet.

 

[Gullycricket]

Challenge the Indian cricket council to prepare such wicket on June 16

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Challenge the Indian cricket council to prepare such wicket on June 16

Lol you will get demolished by our bowlers if it's a green wicket.

 

[Mehndi155]

Why Is That England have been Given Belters and asian teams the swinging pitches?

Ind 179 all out
Pak 105 all out where against england on same ground they scored 340
Srilanlanka now 60 for 6

 

[Hyperion66]

Challenge the Indian cricket council to prepare such wicket on June 16

Pak wouldn't make 50 runs if that is the case.

 

[j_kazmi]

The pitch doesn’t affect the swing of the ball. This is common sense.

And maybe they all just played bad? Why blame others every time something goes wrong?

 

[Mehndi155]

The pitch doesn’t affect the swing of the ball. This is common sense.

And maybe they all just played bad? Why blame others every time something goes wrong?

Bro what world u live in ?
Wat made u say pitch doesnt affect the swing of the ball

 

[Ronaldo7]

The pitch doesn’t affect the swing of the ball. This is common sense.

And maybe they all just played bad? Why blame others every time something goes wrong?

Lol.
Your cricket knowledge is primary school level.

 

[HitWicket]

Ind 179 all out

This was the exact same pitch England were 161/1 off 17.3 overs on 2 days later.

Pak 105 all out where against england on same ground they scored 340

The West Indies didn't seem to have the same issue.

 

[Markhor]

1) Swing is through the air not off the pitch.
2) You conclude this from a grand total of three matches ?
3) Pakistan were not sent in on an 80s WACA pitch. They could've scored a decent total with some application at the crease.

Crying victim is easier than looking at our own shortcomings.

 

[Sin Nombre]

While OP is conflating swing and seam, his paranoia might have some substance.

BTW the warm up pitch from the India match eased off in the first innings itself. Even Jadeja was finding it easy.

The current English batting lineup would collapse in seaming conditions as well. If they continue getting featherbeds and others don't, it would be suspicious.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I am not the only one seeing this pattern.. Even for Practice games India got a green one.

 

[adil79]

We were given a belter. Wait till other teams score 400+ and we tank it below 150 in chase as they run us out with short pitch stuff.

 

[Ronaldo7]

We were given a belter. Wait till other teams score 400+ and we tank it below 150 in chase as they run us out with short pitch stuff.

That wasn't a belter.

 

[Rana]

Definitely not the 350 average score WC as expected so far

Thank you ICC for bringing some balance back!

 

[last_knight]

The pitch doesn’t affect the swing of the ball. This is common sense.

And maybe they all just played bad? Why blame others every time something goes wrong?

10:30 am start, all pitches have been double paced in first innings for 25-30 overs. Some deliveries get extra spice, some deliveries get stuck with pitch. But bowlers have to keep it short of good length.

I said same in Pak-Afg Warm Up game.

Win toss and never think to bat first for 10:30 am starts.
Not sure about D/N matches.

We will see a lot of 75/5 in first innings for Day Matches.

Also, no need to play 2 spinners for first half of tournament. For PCT, from squad of first match, Asif and Husnain should replace Imad and Haris.

 

[Robert]

There are no “swinging pitches”. Only swinging atmospheres, so blame the weather.

 

[Ronaldo7]

There are no “swinging pitches”. Only swinging atmospheres, so blame the weather.

Are you joking??
Have you seen the weather??
The pitch has a lot of grass which helps the ball swing and it seams. So it's not a "dead" pitch.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

That wasn't a belter.

Agree. Windies batsmen were struggling a bit as well, quite a few false shots could easily have seen them lose another 3 wickets and they were only chasing 105.

I think watching these games Junaid Khan must be tearing his hair out, he's usually a lot better when there is something in the pitch, but he lost his world cup place because he could do nothing on the roads which were prepared for the ODI series with England.

 

[Titan24]

There are no “swinging pitches”. Only swinging atmospheres, so blame the weather.

No excuse Pak has been poor but warm up game against Afghan, the ball was spinning like anything (You can see the highlights) and afghan have world class spinners.

Against WI the pitch had bounce and pace, not what Trent Bridge is known for and WI have tall fast bowlers who obviously like those conditions and created somewhat similar conditions even in their home series against Eng.

Again Pak played poorly but few the conditions on display were surprising to say the least.

 

[j_kazmi]

Bro what world u live in ?
Wat made u say pitch doesnt affect the swing of the ball

Lol.
Your cricket knowledge is primary school level.

The pitch doesn’t affect how much swing you get the weather and atmostsphere do.

The pitch will affect the pace, bounce and the seam of a delivery but not the swing. The ball starts swinging before it even touches the pitch.

 

[Robert]

No excuse Pak has been poor but warm up game against Afghan, the ball was spinning like anything (You can see the highlights) and afghan have world class spinners.

Against WI the pitch had bounce and pace, not what Trent Bridge is known for and WI have tall fast bowlers who obviously like those conditions and created somewhat similar conditions even in their home series against Eng.

Again Pak played poorly but few the conditions on display were surprising to say the least.

I thought Pakistani batsmen could play spin?

Seriously I don’t know what will please people, ECB get grief for allegedly preparing flat wickets to suit England batters, then when sporting pitches are served up that’s wrong too!

 

[Birdman]

Wow, it’s amazing to see cricket fans can’t differentiate swing and seam. Swing depends on weather,atmospheric conditions and the condition of the ball (reverse swing) and seam depends on the nature of the pitch.

 

[Titan24]

Even Scott Styris just said for today’s conditions that NZ is used to playing on these surfaces at home.

 

[Hasan2K8]

Both the asian teams batted poorly. Impatient, lack application. Lets see what’s the 3rd asian side playing later on today do with the bat!

 

[Mp812]

No excuse Pak has been poor but warm up game against Afghan, the ball was spinning like anything (You can see the highlights) and afghan have world class spinners.

Against WI the pitch had bounce and pace, not what Trent Bridge is known for and WI have tall fast bowlers who obviously like those conditions and created somewhat similar conditions even in their home series against Eng.

Again Pak played poorly but few the conditions on display were surprising to say the least.

World conspiracy in cahoots with BCCI and ICC to ensure Pakistan bowlers and batters do not deliver. Denying Zimbabwe a place in world cup was also part of that conspiracy as Pakistan players seem to be missing Zimbabwe.

 

[saeedhk]

Blame the pitch curators for Pakistan’s mediocrity. This is why Pakistan doesn’t improve. We blame everything else other than our inability. Gayle smashed our bowlers on the same pitch. Don’t blame anyone else for our team’s lack of skill. Pakistan is a minnow, accept it. There’s a reason why we have such a long losing streak.

 

[Titan24]

I thought Pakistani batsmen could play spin?

Seriously I don’t know what will please people, ECB get grief for allegedly preparing flat wickets to suit England batters, then when sporting pitches are served up that’s wrong too!

Yes Pak used to play spin well but now a days, I think we arent that good but more than that we didnt have spinners to utilize the conditions while Afghans' have probably the best spin attack of the tournament. Pak should have won irrespective of that and they have been playing poor cricket for sometime now. I am just surprised at the preparation of wickets. I wouldnt have mind seeing traditional English wickets which over seam movement and swing under cloudy conditions and which we had against WI. But, having that sort of bounce and pace in the wicket was playing right in the hands of WI especially when Pak has been so poor in recent times.

Yes people like a good contest and wont mind seeing traditional English wickets but offering spin and offering a lot of bounce and arent the traditional ones especially they are displayed against Afghans’ who like spinning conditions and whereas WI like bounce and Pace.

Its not ECB’s fault, ICC is now in charge and they are known for doing number of things during ICC tournaments.

 

[Titan24]

World conspiracy in cahoots with BCCI and ICC to ensure Pakistan bowlers and batters do not deliver. Denying Zimbabwe a place in world cup was also part of that conspiracy as Pakistan players seem to be missing Zimbabwe.

When did I said that? I am just stating facts regarding the pitches, if you have solid points to defy those facts I am all ears.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

World conspiracy in cahoots with BCCI and ICC to ensure Pakistan bowlers and batters do not deliver. Denying Zimbabwe a place in world cup was also part of that conspiracy as Pakistan players seem to be missing Zimbabwe.

Well said bro. I will look forward to BD showing Pakistan fans how to score 300 against Eng, Aus, and NZ on green pitches.

 

[Titan24]

Again before everybody starts shouting because of my above posts should know I am not defending Pak in anyway, they have been poor for almost two years now due to number of factors. I am just stating facts with reference to few of the pitches on display.

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So apparently it’s a sporty wicket bringing the bowlers .. I mean seamers in to it . Would be keen to see if England play on such pitches especially against teams with good pace attacks <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/cwc19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#cwc19</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SLvsNZ?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SLvsNZ</a></p>— Russel Arnold (@RusselArnold69) <a href="https://twitter.com/RusselArnold69/status/1134783646307454976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 1, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Hyperion66]

I thought Pakistani batsmen could play spin?

Seriously I don’t know what will please people, ECB get grief for allegedly preparing flat wickets to suit England batters, then when sporting pitches are served up that’s wrong too!

I don't think ECB got the guts to serve the same forrest to their own team what they dished out to SL today.

 

[Markhor]

No excuse Pak has been poor but warm up game against Afghan, the ball was spinning like anything (You can see the highlights) and afghan have world class spinners.

Against WI the pitch had bounce and pace, not what Trent Bridge is known for and WI have tall fast bowlers who obviously like those conditions and created somewhat similar conditions even in their home series against Eng.

Again Pak played poorly but few the conditions on display were surprising to say the least.

Bristol pitch was a used pitch. They wanted to use fresh pitches for the WC.

 

[Markhor]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So apparently it’s a sporty wicket bringing the bowlers .. I mean seamers in to it . Would be keen to see if England play on such pitches especially against teams with good pace attacks <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/cwc19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#cwc19</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SLvsNZ?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SLvsNZ</a></p>— Russel Arnold (@RusselArnold69) <a href="https://twitter.com/RusselArnold69/status/1134783646307454976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 1, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Russell Arnold loves whining. His Sri Lankan team will get pasted by NZL on any surface.

I for one am enjoying the variety of pitches in this tournament. It's about time pitches offer assistance to bowlers in ODIs. The best teams will be able to adapt, so just get on with it.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

We don't actually know how bad these pitches are yet, would have to see how a good batting side handles them. Although we'll probably get flat wickets without a blade of grass in those games.

 

[MMHS]

Don't think criticism is fair here - these are excellent cricket wickets, may be a little favoring to teams bowling first, that too in late May, early June. By mid June, that little advantage won't be there either. So far 3 one sided games and SAF actually put Poms into bat, while I don't think PAK or SRL batting 2nd would have avoided that hammering. PAK was bounced out on a very good wicket - had WIN batted first, they would have put 300+ and that 2015 game could have been repeated, and least said about SRL is better.

 

[Mr.Q]

So none of these are drop-in pitches?

 

[Chokli]

Haha that England series ended up being counter productive.

 

[Titan24]

I don't think ECB got the guts to serve the same forrest to their own team what they dished out to SL today.

Its not ECB its ICC controlling the wickets now.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Don't think criticism is fair here - these are excellent cricket wickets, may be a little favoring to teams bowling first, that too in late May, early June. By mid June, that little advantage won't be there either. So far 3 one sided games and SAF actually put Poms into bat, while I don't think PAK or SRL batting 2nd would have avoided that hammering. PAK was bounced out on a very good wicket - had WIN batted first, they would have put 300+ and that 2015 game could have been repeated, and least said about SRL is better.

Fair enough. But if they roll out certain tracks to one set of teams and another type of track another set of teams then there is something fishy.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Its not ECB its ICC controlling the wickets now.

ICC will have some english men for all we know.

 

[Titan24]

Don't think criticism is fair here - these are excellent cricket wickets, may be a little favoring to teams bowling first, that too in late May, early June. By mid June, that little advantage won't be there either. So far 3 one sided games and SAF actually put Poms into bat, while I don't think PAK or SRL batting 2nd would have avoided that hammering. PAK was bounced out on a very good wicket - had WIN batted first, they would have put 300+ and that 2015 game could have been repeated, and least said about SRL is better.

Wicket of WI vs Pak had a lot of bounce and pace. Amir extracted bounce with bowling at 135 kph and Hasan with his height extracted number of edges of Gayle's (Who is really tall) bat. Not sure Pak would have won on any other track but WI couldnt have asked for a better track to start their campaign with their tall fast bowlers and no spinner in the whole squad other than Nurse.

 

[Chokli]

Fair enough. But if they roll out certain tracks to one set of teams and another type of track another set of teams then there is something fishy.

They dished out a good track for England Vs South Africa.

England are a gun team and still managed to get 300, mind you South Africa didn't do anything wrong bowling wise.

 

[MMHS]

Wicket of WI vs Pak had a lot of bounce and pace. Amir extracted bounce with bowling at 135 kph and Hasan with his height extracted number of edges of Gayle's (Who is really tall) bat. Not sure Pak would have won on any other track but WI couldnt have asked for a better track to start their campaign with their tall fast bowlers and no spinner in the whole squad other than Nurse.

PAK could have scored more on a flatter wicket, but WIN scored 421 against Kiwis. It's the bounce and carry that earned PAK 3 wickets with new ball - on flatter, slower wicket it could have been 100/1 after 10. WIN played better and made the best use of the condition, rather other way round.

 

[Chokli]

Lol you will get demolished by our bowlers if it's a green wicket.

I know right

Pakistanis are still under the impression that their bowling is world claaaas.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Don't think criticism is fair here - these are excellent cricket wickets, may be a little favoring to teams bowling first, that too in late May, early June. By mid June, that little advantage won't be there either. So far 3 one sided games and SAF actually put Poms into bat, while I don't think PAK or SRL batting 2nd would have avoided that hammering. PAK was bounced out on a very good wicket - had WIN batted first, they would have put 300+ and that 2015 game could have been repeated, and least said about SRL is better.

Disagree about Windies scoring 300+ on that wicket, even batting second and chasing a tiny total, they still lost 3 wickets, and in fact played a lot of false shots where they could have lost more. I do agree that it was a decent track, probably 270 would have been a defendable total. Difficult to gauge from Pakistan's batting as they didn't handle the short ball. But even Windies were top edging a lot of them and they usually play the bouncer as well as anyone.

 

[Chokli]

1) Swing is through the air not off the pitch.
2) You conclude this from a grand total of three matches ?
3) Pakistan were not sent in on an 80s WACA pitch. They could've scored a decent total with some application at the crease.

Crying victim is easier than looking at our own shortcomings.

But seam movement is from the pitch ain't it? Educate me on pitches

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Yes Pak used to play spin well but now a days, I think we arent that good but more than that we didnt have spinners to utilize the conditions while Afghans' have probably the best spin attack of the tournament. Pak should have won irrespective of that and they have been playing poor cricket for sometime now. I am just surprised at the preparation of wickets. I wouldnt have mind seeing traditional English wickets which over seam movement and swing under cloudy conditions and which we had against WI. But, having that sort of bounce and pace in the wicket was playing right in the hands of WI especially when Pak has been so poor in recent times.

Yes people like a good contest and wont mind seeing traditional English wickets but offering spin and offering a lot of bounce and arent the traditional ones especially they are displayed against Afghans’ who like spinning conditions and whereas WI like bounce and Pace.

Its not ECB’s fault, ICC is now in charge and they are known for doing number of things during ICC tournaments.

Out of interest, do you think a flat wicket would have favoured PAK over Windies ? Because I think holder would have batted first if it was completely flat and considering what they did to an attack of Boult, Lockie and Matt Henry, im not sure Pakistan would have had half a chance on a flat wicket either.

 

[Nado_]

Things such as moisture and grass does aid swing.

 

[Slim]

I know right

Pakistanis are still under the impression that their bowling is world claaaas.

Well, at least that helps reveal your true colors.

 

[Nado_]

So far bowling first has been advantageous

 

[MMHS]

Disagree about Windies scoring 300+ on that wicket, even batting second and chasing a tiny total, they still lost 3 wickets, and in fact played a lot of false shots where they could have lost more. I do agree that it was a decent track, probably 270 would have been a defendable total. Difficult to gauge from Pakistan's batting as they didn't handle the short ball. But even Windies were top edging a lot of them and they usually play the bouncer as well as anyone.

Bro, your team was bundled inside 21 overs, then they chased that in 13 overs - that’s 35 overs work out in a 100 overs game. Do you think this was because of the wicket only?

WIN is one team that never plays for stats, neither thinks of it much, their game is free flowing, instant and aggressive - hence 3 wickets and 13 overs. A more calculated team would won it by 10 wickets inside 23-25 overs max.

I give you cricket explanation now - in PAK attack, only penetrative bowler, somewhat is Amir with new ball and he over cashed it for a target of 105. The spin attack that PAK has taken to WC and the other pacers including Amir with old ball .... even from that 105/3, WIN would have put 300+. Have you noticed their bottom half?

 

[aloo paratha]

Would love to see more green pitches in this tournament.

 

[stevewittry]

Bi-polar nature of pitches in England

Normally ICC events have been played on good batting surfaces or surfaces that uniformly favour all sides.

This World cup however has been an anamoly in terms of nature of pitches. Some sides have been victims to such unfair pitches. Pakistan got a shocker vs the Windies and Sri Lanka too batted on a green top. The pitches deployed during the recently concluded Pak-England series were absolute pancakes each yielding 350+ scores.

However the start of the world cup has witnessed both absolute belters such as todays game or green tops that favours the side winning the toss and bowling.

While I don't have issues with the former, the later is unacceptable as it dents the side batting first and makes the competition lop sided. What worse than an ODI finishing faster than a typical T20 game. Your thoughts?

 

[adil79]

Pakistan got belter. We just couldn't handle bounce. Windies didnt tumble for 105? They infact gifted 3 wickets in their chase. If it were other team, who dont have weakness against bounce, they would have scored excess of 350.

Of those 8 matches we have, you will comes across a match when opposition would have scored excess of 350 and we would have tumbled below 200 in chase. Then, it will be clear to you where to look for mistakes.

 

[big_gamer007]

Pakistan got a shocker?? Hahahaha

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I thought the green top in the SL game was more worrying than the Pakistan pitch. Not sure what you can do about the pitch which Pakistan got, looked good on the surface, but I thought Windies struggled on it as well.

But the pitch in the SL game was totally different to what we saw in the Pak series against England, and it would be good to know what the criteria is for preparing pitches. it might just be that Pakistan camp got totally the wrong impression of conditions due to the games they played prior to the world cup games.

 

[stevewittry]

I thought the green top in the SL game was more worrying than the Pakistan pitch. Not sure what you can do about the pitch which Pakistan got, looked good on the surface, but I thought Windies struggled on it as well.

But the pitch in the SL game was totally different to what we saw in the Pak series against England, and it would be good to know what the criteria is for preparing pitches. it might just be that Pakistan camp got totally the wrong impression of conditions due to the games they played prior to the world cup games.

Exactly ... Pakistan was caught by surprise with the pitch. Going by pitches deployed during their recent series, they expected their first match was on a belter which superficially appeared the same. They therefore approached the game with a similar strategy and were hit severely by the underlying devil in the pitch which produced abnormal bounce from a good length.

 

[Chokli]

On the same green pitch Sri Lanka batted on New Zealand got their runs in 17 overs with 10 wickets to spare.

 

[Major]

stop crying.


Both teams get to bat on the same pitch.

If 1 team is poor you cant blame the pitches then. Look at the Pakistan vs West Indies game. Chris Gayle made it look simple

You have to be good enough to play on such pitches like Gayle did.

 

[Major]

On the same green pitch Sri Lanka batted on New Zealand got their runs in 17 overs with 10 wickets to spare.

exactly, but people will ignore that due to victim mentality.

Now only those runs were cahsed but they were chased at a NRR of 5 in both matches

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

On the same green pitch Sri Lanka batted on New Zealand got their runs in 17 overs with 10 wickets to spare.

Doesn't mean that much, NZ were chasing a tiny score and SL don't have the pace bowlers to exploit a green pitch anyway.

 

[stevewittry]

exactly, but people will ignore that due to victim mentality.

Now only those runs were cahsed but they were chased at a NRR of 5 in both matches

From this experience, I am sure Pak will be a very different batting side the next time they walk in. It is the surprise factor in the pitch that caught Pak unawares.

Needless to say, the pitch settled down by the time the other side got the opportunity to bat. They also have the benefit of witnessing how the pitch is behaving and adjusting their game plan accordingly. It gets much easier psychologically when you are chasing 100 odd in 50 overs. One can bat freely under the circumstances.

 

[Chokli]

Doesn't mean that much, NZ were chasing a tiny score and SL don't have the pace bowlers to exploit a green pitch anyway.

So it's isn't a green pitch that's making the difference then, it's the gulf in class of the teams.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

So it's isn't a green pitch that's making the difference then, it's the gulf in class of the teams.

Obviously a green pitch is going to be a big advantage if you have good pace bowlers, not so much the spinners. If NZ was batting against England could have been a very low scoring game. That said I didn't actually see the SL innings, just saw the match thread where fans were complaining that the ball was doing a lot and SL got caught on a green wicket. It might be it was playing perfectly for all I know despite looking so green.

 

[adil79]

stop crying.


Both teams get to bat on the same pitch.

If 1 team is poor you cant blame the pitches then. Look at the Pakistan vs West Indies game. Chris Gayle made it look simple

You have to be good enough to play on such pitches like Gayle did.

I wish there was a like button. Both teams play on the same pitch, but it's usual for the loser to find an excuse. Next time it will be something else.