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[PICTURES] Would Azam Khan be a better cricketer if he lost weight?

So we are ok to play the likes of Khushdil Shah the finisher and Asif Ali who bottled many games for pakistan because of their performances, but not ok to give games to someone who is doing well but overweight?

No ifs and buts but a yes and no question simple
 
So we are ok to play the likes of Khushdil Shah the finisher and Asif Ali who bottled many games for pakistan because of their performances, but not ok to give games to someone who is doing well but overweight?

No ifs and buts but a yes and no question simple

Sure i'll answer - Yes. Until now there was nothing much seperating the names above.

Now that Azam is finally proving he might actually be in a different league to those useless cricketers you've mentioned, the argument for his selection becomes stronger.

He still has to be significantly better than his competition to get in. He will be a liability in the field and an embarrassment to the nation. He must compensate for these factors given it's his choice to be obese.

If Azam was in decent shape he'd have represented Pakistan countless times already.
 
Azam needs to lose weight and build muscle. He can do it if he wants to. Its not hard to lose pounds these days especially if you are as obese as he is.

I cant understand why some people just can't see the obvious.

It is hard to stop a lifetime of habit. Coaches would have been telling Azam Khan to lose weight from the age of 13. He can't do it. The guy literally has the national team within fingertip reach but he is unable to get there.

Meanwhile you have clueless people within Pakistan believing that being obese is what gives him power in his shots and franchises lining up to give him money for a few weeks work. This doesn't help.

Azam Khan needs to maintain a calorie deficit for a significant length of time. In the process he will lose strength and likely some ability while he gets into shape. In the long term he should be significantly better off for it.

It's extremely hard to maintain a calorie deficit for the months upon months that Azam Khan would have to do it. He doesn't have it in him. If he did he'd have done it already.
 
If he got into the Pak team knowing Pak players theyl stop training stating if he can get into the team looking obese why should we train.
 
He looks like he needs to consume a lot of calories to even maintain his current weight.

The guy must burn a lot of calories when training and playing yet incredibly doesn't seem to have shifted a pound.

His diet is then the obvious answer to the problem.

When you are as fat as he is you can quickly and safely lose weight by making some small substitutes i.e diet coke/water instead of normal coke, eat air fried chips vs deep fried.

You don't need to cut back on too much when you are already so fat.

It gets harder when you are leaner as you need to consider your macros and fine tune things.

Honestly in normal circumstances a strength training regime while eating at maintenance will allow him to lose some weight without losing muscle.

I think he has an illness or psychological problem with food.
 
Some people actually think getting fitter will make you less stronger and a less better batsman. Absolute hilarious

So the best batsmen around the world are all big and heavy are they?

He has no intention to loose weight, he has no desire to play for his country. It would be setting a bad precedence by selecting him. We need to plan for the future and select people who choose representing their country above their wage. The next generation of cricketers anywhere around the world are not that big.
He will cost more runs in the field then he will ever score, he will also dampen his own record as he will never score as many runs as he could if he was fit, what happens in bigger grounds or slow wickets when you can’t hit out the ground? He won’t be able to run 2’s and 3’s
 
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Some people actually think getting fitter will make you less stronger and a less better batsman. Absolute hilarious

So the best batsmen around the world are all big and heavy are they?

He has no intention to loose weight, he has no desire to play for his country. It would be setting a bad precedence by selecting him. We need to plan for the future and select people who choose representing their country above their wage. The next generation of cricketers anywhere around the world are not that big.
He will cost more runs in the field then he will ever score, he will also dampen his own record as he will never score as many runs as he could if he was fit, what happens in bigger grounds or slow wickets when you can’t hit out the ground? He won’t be able to run 2’s and 3’s

Azam Khan is a pioneer! All these legends have had it the wrong way round trying to be disciplined and stay fit. Mr Khan the genius has figured out that a professional athlete can actually be better by being heavily overweight :)))

If someone does not have the desire to improve, whether it be their technique or their fitness, it speaks volumes.
 
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Some people actually think getting fitter will make you less stronger and a less better batsman. Absolute hilarious

So the best batsmen around the world are all big and heavy are they?

He has no intention to loose weight, he has no desire to play for his country. It would be setting a bad precedence by selecting him. We need to plan for the future and select people who choose representing their country above their wage. The next generation of cricketers anywhere around the world are not that big.
He will cost more runs in the field then he will ever score, he will also dampen his own record as he will never score as many runs as he could if he was fit, what happens in bigger grounds or slow wickets when you can’t hit out the ground? He won’t be able to run 2’s and 3’s

I wonder how he will “cost more runs in the field” when he doesn’t even field. He’s a wicketkeeper! And a good one that!
 
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People who think performance just equals the runs you make or wickets you take are so far off the mark

What about performance whilst running between the wkts, running quick singles, running multiple twos and not losing stamina to go again, what about fielding and stopping sharp singles and throwing down wkts or moving quickly to the ball to take a catch or diving to save a boundary?

Do these not count in this day and age?

What is the point of a batter if hes gonna concede 10 - 15 runs a game in the field?

This isnt amateur cricket You can tell from that interview he just isnt serious about his game to take it to another level

The reply shouldve been "i will get fit and wont give selectors any reason" rather than "i dont care pick me or not your choice"

What kind of attitude is this?

Please quantify how Azam Khan lost even 15 runs for his team this entire PSL, let alone 15 runs per game
 
Some people actually think getting fitter will make you less stronger and a less better batsman. Absolute hilarious

So the best batsmen around the world are all big and heavy are they?

He has no intention to loose weight, he has no desire to play for his country. It would be setting a bad precedence by selecting him. We need to plan for the future and select people who choose representing their country above their wage. The next generation of cricketers anywhere around the world are not that big.
He will cost more runs in the field then he will ever score, he will also dampen his own record as he will never score as many runs as he could if he was fit, what happens in bigger grounds or slow wickets when you can’t hit out the ground? He won’t be able to run 2’s and 3’s

No it's quite the opposite. Heavy guys aren't picked even when they are good, because of cricketing boards having obsession with fitness which is just for show. Franchises don't care even 1% for this nonsense, because they want results and will pick people who can deliver.

Also, he's not paralyzed or immobile. He's just fat. It doesn't mean he isn't allowed to move or run. And frankly it doesn't cost even 10% of what people are claiming in the field or running.

In baseball many top-class players, Hall of Famers even have been quite fat (and btw fitness matters there as well). It's just that people realize your primary skill is what effects your output more.
 
The issue is that in international cricket he will not be scoring runs as freely or hitting boundaries specially in last few overs where hard running is important.

In my opinion he needs to lose weight if he is serious about playing for Pakistan. The selectors are under pressure to keep the fitness criteria consistent for every player and not make an exception. Secondly even if they do pick him up and he fails to hit boundaries against high class internal bowlers Jofra, Bumrah, Starc etc in T20 cricket and runs slower than most between wickets all of Pakistan fans would be after selectors blood.
 
What is lack of skill though? He swept a 145kmh bowler for six
Already out-lined how he will struggle with the short ball at good pace. International class bowlers won’t be bowling too many half vollies to him and get swept for sixes off his preferred length.

He goes away from the line of the ball when facing short deliveries, and that’s not an exaggeration.
 
To answer this question, you have to go back to the World T20 2022.

We lost two games at the MCG. The match against India and the Final. The reason why we lose that match was because of the nature of MCG. Being a big ground, you cant score runs at MCG by hitting boundaries, you win there by taking doubles and even tripples. Rotation of strike matters. Iftikhar played well because of this. Shan Masood played a great innings in the final and was the only guy that was scoring runs. Why? Because he knew that at the MCG you need to rotate strike, you cant get away with hitting boundaries there.

Pakistans batting collapsed at the MCG in the final and England won the game easily. Had Pakistan rotated the strike, and they had the players to do so, they would had won. Pakistan needed a proper coach and a stats guy to tell this to them.

Azam Khans weight is an issue. A very big issue. International t20 matches are not played on small boundaries. Proper boundaries are there and you need to have a plan b. The reason why Asif Ali has failed at international level is because Asif Ali can only hit, he cant rotate strike. If 5 were needed off 10, Asif can only hit it and not rotate strike for it.

Azam Khan cant rotate strike, the ball being hit at the fielder at the boundary rope and you see Azam taking a single. He cant run for a second run back. He is always going to be slow. He cant rotate strike and a player who cant rotate strike is not good enough for international cricket. Shahid Afrid and Asif Ali are examples.

Than there is the 2nd issue, due to his weight, he cant play pace bowling on a proper wicket. A proper wicket is where the bounce is high. So take him to South Africa or Asutralia or New Zealand, he will struggle. Even in some wicket wickets of Pakistan, like at Multan, where Ihsanullah was bowling, the guy was fearing him. This is why today Quetta tried to bowl short to him, his weakness is out and known. This issue could be associated with his weight, as his timing gets abit slow when facing quick bowling on a fast wicket. In domestic t20 you can get away as there is only one bowler that might trouble you, in interantional cricket, the teams are playing their best 3-4 pacers of the country.

Third issue is where is he gonna field? Rizwan is the best keeper ever produced by Pakistan and there is no way he will be dropped as a keeper. Weak fielders are often placed at thrid man, but in t20 cricket, third man is as important as point because t20 batsmen will try to hit short balls towards thirdman, and at thirdman you need fitness to move around when the ball is coming towards you. It doesnt come at one spot. He is very slow on the field aswell.


His shot hitting abilities are not doubted. He has a great stroke maker and as proven today that his shot hitting abilities are good enough. Infact he proved his worth the day he smacked Shahid Afridi for sixes and showed Afridi his days were over.

He can be selected for international cricket, but he cannot be played on every ground or wicket. He is ideal for Sharjah, but he is just as bad for Dubai. There would be alot of issues fitting him in and than dropping him. If he performs at SHarjah and than gets dropped for Dubai, media would go crazy and put pressure.

So yes, his weight is an issue. And all these issues discussed above would be sorted if he loss weight. Cricket is an athletes sport not a game. Afridi was spot on that if he doesnt perform, the first thing that people will blame him for is his fitness. If he doesnt want his fitness to become an excuse for dropping him than he needs to slim up.

However if Azam thinks that his weight gives him strength, than good enough. He can become a freelance cricketer and earn a good career and more money than our international players

Great post [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] POTW for me.

While I appreciate his hitting ability, he needs to improve his running between the wickets and strike rotation. Otherwise he will be limited to once in a blue moon knocks and short cameos, this is fine domestically.

Perhaps there is scope for him to be a low order hitter for Pakistan? but as you say, he could struggle when the boundaries are pushed back.

There is some potential though and room for further growth if he desires to improve and get better.
 
No impact, zero foot movement - hoping that bowlers will serve him halwa, didnt happen.
 
Relies mostly on hand eye coordination and brutal power , nothing shot today to get out and looks very very ugly when misses a shot.
 
Relies mostly on hand eye coordination and brutal power , nothing shot today to get out and looks very very ugly when misses a shot.

Works against ordinary bowling, anything good and he has no plan B
 
No impact, zero foot movement - hoping that bowlers will serve him halwa, didnt happen.

He has no business even thinking of playing for Pakistan.

The worst thing about him is that he is getting fatter by the day.
 
How he got out

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He’s asked to chase 133 in 11 overs. Haters came out of the cave to criticize his performance stopped short by a questionable umpiring decision. These people have lost their sense.
 
He’s asked to chase 133 in 11 overs. Haters came out of the cave to criticize his performance stopped short by a questionable umpiring decision. These people have lost their sense.

And he scored what? He isn't in the side to get easy runs.
 
He scored 97 in last match. 4 in this one. He averages over 50.00 the last matches. As a low order batsman. World class talent.

He is not a World Class talent yet.

Needs to score more in the coming games

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You can't expect players like Azam Khan to perform every game they play high risk cricket and some days it will pay off and other days it wont.
 
He is not a World Class talent yet.

Needs to score more in the coming games

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He is the top scorer for the IU this season. He has hit the most sixes as well. Mind you, he bats at the position 5 and below.

Young lad is more skilled, talented, & brave than many supposed world class Pakistani batters.
 
You can't expect players like Azam Khan to perform every game they play high risk cricket and some days it will pay off and other days it wont.

Hmm ok. In that case i have a question for you.

Rizwan plays low risk cricket but his consistency is insane. By your argument i guess that justifies him scoring his runs at a 130 sr. Would you agree?
 
Hmm ok. In that case i have a question for you.

Rizwan plays low risk cricket but his consistency is insane. By your argument i guess that justifies him scoring his runs at a 130 sr. Would you agree?

Consistency for what? Failing when it matters and against proper bowlers?
 
Based on my observations, he definitely needs to lose weight, his excess body fat means his reflexes are slow when he has to shift his weight, he is a yard slower on the pull, hook and when he has to bend below.

He will also be a liability when it comes to running between the wickets which is vital when playing on sluggish surfaces where the ball doesn't come on to the bat and where he has to do a lot of running between the wickets.

Not to mention running and fielding in the outfield.
 
Hmm ok. In that case i have a question for you.

Rizwan plays low risk cricket but his consistency is insane. By your argument i guess that justifies him scoring his runs at a 130 sr. Would you agree?

Yes you can have 1 player batting at that strike rate if everyone has higher strike rate aslong as players know thier role.

For example Haris knows his role in Peshawar to hit hard straight away whilst Babar bats at 130 strike rate.
 
Who cares if he Obese or build like a twig as long as he is not a liability while fielding or running between wickets.
 
PSL is a low quality tournament. Performances here rarely translate into the international scene. We need fit players. He has been in the game for a few years now and not done anything about his weight. Find that a bit strange.
 
Azam Khan has no motivation to lose weight. He is obviously not interested in playing Test cricket and he probably doesn’t care about ODIs either.

He is already making big bucks by carving out a name for himself in T20 cricket. He is going to play in almost every league in the world over the next few years.

By the time he is 30, he will be set for life.

He obviously wants to play T20s for Pakistan, but he is going to do that regardless of his weight because it will be difficult for the selectors to ignore his excellent performances in PSL and other leagues especially when he is the son of a former notable player.

The only way he will lose weight is if franchises start ignoring him due to his fitness. If that happens he will get in shape in no time. However, that is not going to happen for obvious reasons.
 
Azam Khan has no motivation to lose weight. He is obviously not interested in playing Test cricket and he probably doesn’t care about ODIs either.

He is already making big bucks by carving out a name for himself in T20 cricket. He is going to play in almost every league in the world over the next few years.

By the time he is 30, he will be set for life.

He obviously wants to play T20s for Pakistan, but he is going to do that regardless of his weight because it will be difficult for the selectors to ignore his excellent performances in PSL and other leagues especially when he is the son of a former notable player.

The only way he will lose weight is if franchises start ignoring him due to his fitness. If that happens he will get in shape in no time. However, that is not going to happen for obvious reasons.
Precisely so
 
One PSL inning and people are building him up as if he's the next Pandya.

It was only a PSL inning for crying out loud.
 
Azam Khan biding his time on the crease because he cannot run 2s - looking for boundaries which arent coming. So now what?
 
Danny Morrison on commentary regarding Azam's running between the wickets "oh dear"
 
He’s very very good at spin bashing and he’s really improved his driving and sweep shots against the quicks. However, his extra weight is actively getting in the way of his back foot game against even moderately high pace. Someone needs to tell him that. It’s all right there,, he needs to do the work, if he truly has the desire to play for Pakistan.
 
Danny Morrison on commentary regarding Azam's running between the wickets "oh dear"

To be fair every other thing happening in a Cricket match accounts to oh dear for Danny Morrison.
 
The Faheem Ashraf run out - could have cost IU the game.

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He is the top scorer for the IU this season. He has hit the most sixes as well. Mind you, he bats at the position 5 and below.

Young lad is more skilled, talented, & brave than many supposed world class Pakistani batters.

[MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] — revisit from few days ago.

He has won critical match for IU with massive contributions with the bat in one of the steepest chases in PSL history.

Surely, he is a talented lad.

I hope you think he is world class batter now.
 
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[MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] — revisit from few days ago.

He has won critical match for IU with massive contributions with the bat in one of the steepest chases in PSL history.

Surely, he is a talented lad.

I hope you think he is world class batter now.

World Class…

Yes, it was a good innings, but being international level (never mind world class) involves having a functioning back foot game against pace.

Let’s talk about first class once he’s hooking and pulling with any degree of comfort. It’s a glaring weakness, and his fitness issues are impeding his reaction time in playing those back foot shots.
 
The Faheem Ashraf run out - could have cost IU the game.

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The match was already done. Faheen’s run out had no bearing on the result.

I get the feeling people are really reaching for something to criticise him about. He played an excellent innings against an attack with enough international quality.

He turned the game to chase down 200 in a t20. What more do you want from him?
 
That is rather adorable.

Anyway…

Do you have any evidence to demonstrate that he has a back foot game against pace? Or just cute little jpegs?

Do you pick on Rizwan’s lack of a leg side game? Do you believe he should not be selected for internationals based on that. Didn’t think so.
 
The match was already done. Faheen’s run out had no bearing on the result.

I get the feeling people are really reaching for something to criticise him about. He played an excellent innings against an attack with enough international quality.

He turned the game to chase down 200 in a t20. What more do you want from him?

I want him to succeed. I really do.

However, it’s tiresome to see reactionary posters making each of these batsmen the next big thing based on a PSL innings.

Azam has shown very good potential. But anybody being objective sees the many many issues that he has.

1) Back foot game is a glaring weakness. His weight amplifies his lack of reaction time in playing these strokes.

2) Given his weight, he can only keep. However, he’s an ok keeper Vs both Rizzy and Haris. Given our bowling attack, we need a safe pair of hands.

3) Because of his weight, he’s slow in getting to the stumps when batters are running. That’s the difference between affecting a run out in a close game, or not.

4) His weight also means that he can’t run quick singles. Strike rotation in t20 is the very very important. You need to keep rotating to ensure both batters get their eye in quickly.

5) Allowing for someone w/ his lack of fitness sets s bad precedent for the rest of the players.

I like the improvements he’s made in his driving game and his sweeps. However, he has to shed more pounds. To emphasise, I don’t care what he looks like, but his weight is getting in the way of him being an effective international player.
 
Do you pick on Rizwan’s lack of a leg side game? Do you believe he should not be selected for internationals based on that. Didn’t think so.

Rizwan’s lack of a leg side game?!?!? What?

I’ll assume, in your attempt to point score, you meant Rizwan’s lack of offside game.

The difference is, Rizzy continues to work on that weakness. He also brings a lot to the team aside from his batting as well, especially his keeping and his leadership.

Next.
 
Thanks. Not really back foot shots are they though? They’re not at his body, which is where the weakness lies.

I did some research myself about how he does against high pace on the back foot.

Watch this too:

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/2k0aGM-Jrp0

Also, please see my separate longer comment above about how I actually want him to succeed.

Perhaps you need to learn what are backfoot shots. It’s the shift of body to the back. He is good at backfoot shots against pace and spin.


See this video:
https://twitter.com/TheRealPCB/status/1312851611002208260

I don’t buy your viewpoints that he is weak in this regard. Also, his weight is not much of a problem if he can deliver momentum and force into his strokes. He has never dropped a catch in the field nor as WK.
 
Perhaps you need to learn what are backfoot shots. It’s the shift of body to the back. He is good at backfoot shots against pace and spin.


See this video:
https://twitter.com/TheRealPCB/status/1312851611002208260

I don’t buy your viewpoints that he is weak in this regard. Also, his weight is not much of a problem if he can deliver momentum and force into his strokes. He has never dropped a catch in the field nor as WK.

I fully understand what back foot shots are. He can’t deliver momentum if he’s late to a ball that’s at his body. Again, see Vs Ihsanullah ( great pushto music accompanies that video!) Hasnain’s bouncers we’re away from his body.

Also he may never have dropped a catch in the field, but his weight impedes him from taking diving catches. That can make a difference in a pressure game, He’ll also naturally concede byes and wides because he doesn’t have the spring of a lighter man.

Also:

3) Because of his weight, he’s slow in getting to the stumps when batters are running. That’s the difference between affecting a run out in a close game, or not.

4) His weight also means that he can’t run quick singles. Strike rotation in t20 is very very important. You need to keep rotating to ensure both batters get their eye in quickly.

5) Allowing for someone w/ his lack of fitness sets a bad precedent for the rest of the players.
 
Azam is a better runner than people think.

To be fair he is probably faster than Sharjeel. And Sharjeel got his chance. And he hasn't fixed and is younger. And probably isn't going to be as big a liability in the field if he's keeping.

I don't see him succeeding realistically in international cricket despite his talent. Scoring is not as easily, especially through boundaries in international cricket, grounds are bigger, bowlers better and more pressure. That's why limited players in the Rizwan and Babar type actually do put runs on the board consistently. And guys like Asif Ali and Khushdil shah can't do anything despite having power.

Wouldn't mind him in the side. He's earnt it via performances now, and we're crying out for someone like him. I wish he was fitter and it sets a bad precedent for Pakistani cricket, but it's better than playing guys who have fixed.
 
I fully understand what back foot shots are. He can’t deliver momentum if he’s late to a ball that’s at his body. Again, see Vs Ihsanullah ( great pushto music accompanies that video!) Hasnain’s bouncers we’re away from his body.

Also he may never have dropped a catch in the field, but his weight impedes him from taking diving catches. That can make a difference in a pressure game, He’ll also naturally concede byes and wides because he doesn’t have the spring of a lighter man.

Also:

3) Because of his weight, he’s slow in getting to the stumps when batters are running. That’s the difference between affecting a run out in a close game, or not.

4) His weight also means that he can’t run quick singles. Strike rotation in t20 is very very important. You need to keep rotating to ensure both batters get their eye in quickly.

5) Allowing for someone w/ his lack of fitness sets a bad precedent for the rest of the players.

Ihsanullah may have beaten him but he has bowled many batsman on multiple occasions.

Azam Khan is a good WK. There is no doubt about it.

https://youtube.com/shorts/j-RIQIj6siY

https://youtube.com/watch?v=zWkVuGIZZIs
 
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To be fair he is probably faster than Sharjeel. And Sharjeel got his chance. And he hasn't fixed and is younger. And probably isn't going to be as big a liability in the field if he's keeping.

I don't see him succeeding realistically in international cricket despite his talent. Scoring is not as easily, especially through boundaries in international cricket, grounds are bigger, bowlers better and more pressure. That's why limited players in the Rizwan and Babar type actually do put runs on the board consistently. And guys like Asif Ali and Khushdil shah can't do anything despite having power.

Wouldn't mind him in the side. He's earnt it via performances now, and we're crying out for someone like him. I wish he was fitter and it sets a bad precedent for Pakistani cricket, but it's better than playing guys who have fixed.

Like you said he can keep so that's an advantage for him pluss he's proberly a better player of spin than most Pakistanli players.If he didnt keep and was in the field then I would not pick him even if he is faster than sharjeel.
 
If useless iftikar , Khushdil can get many chances . Overweight Azam is 10 times better and deserves to play
 
Just watched the highlights of his knock, the way he toyed with the field was a treat to watch, the guy can hit big and he can improvise as well if needed.
 
The guy should be a dead cert in the T20 team.

When you have guys like Asif doing nothing for ages, but is still in the team is unbelievable.

He can play a proper innings and has the power game.

Don't care about his weight, he will be fine behind the stumps and Rizwan being an outfielder will only help with the general fielding.
 
The match was already done. Faheen’s run out had no bearing on the result.

I get the feeling people are really reaching for something to criticise him about. He played an excellent innings against an attack with enough international quality.

He turned the game to chase down 200 in a t20. What more do you want from him?

Really was the match done? What if he had been run out? T20s are games of small margins. One silly mistake is all it takes.

No one is doubting his innings. The title of the thread explains what we are saying.
 
Ihsanullah may have beaten him but he has bowled many batsman on multiple occasions.

Azam Khan is a good WK. There is no doubt about it.

https://youtube.com/shorts/j-RIQIj6siY

https://youtube.com/watch?v=zWkVuGIZZIs

Ok. Don’t know why this is so difficult to understand.

You want to have the best glove man as your keeper, because of the strength and variety of our bowling attack demands that. Not a good keeper. But the best keeper. Because our bowling will always be our strength.

Rizzy meets that criteria. Haseebullah is better than Azam. Haris is better than Azam. Which means that you either:

1) Play Azam in the outfield- Which, given his weight issues means he’ll struggle in.

2) Play Azam as a keeper, thereby weakening your keeping position. He may be serviceable as a keeper, but he isn’t the best.

Thereby, he needs to lose weight.
 
Surely he's now above Asif Ali, Khushdil Shah and Iftikhar Ahmed in the T20I pecking order.
 
Surely he's now above Asif Ali, Khushdil Shah and Iftikhar Ahmed in the T20I pecking order.

Iftikhar has to be above him surely. Ifti is not a liability in the field and is a handy spinner
 
Surely he's now above Asif Ali, Khushdil Shah and Iftikhar Ahmed in the T20I pecking order.

He is based on his PSL performances. The problem is, if you pick him, he’ll be with the squad and can’t dedicate himself to getting in shape. If he can, whilst being with the team, then fair enough.
 
He is based on his PSL performances. The problem is, if you pick him, he’ll be with the squad and can’t dedicate himself to getting in shape. If he can, whilst being with the team, then fair enough.

Good point, I think he’d get even fatter while playing with the team; they don’t have good eating behaviours to begin with and are actively looking for treats, especially on tour. And that cake after each pointless milestone will be too tempting for the big man. Pakistan eat like a club side from league cricket in England. It’s probably best he is as light as possible before joining the team. The problem is complacency once you’ve made it.
 
Really was the match done? What if he had been run out? T20s are games of small margins. One silly mistake is all it takes.

No one is doubting his innings. The title of the thread explains what we are saying.

This is t20 cricket - run outs happen. They only required 8 off one over - that is simple in any form of cricket. Was it due to his weight that he was run out? No, it was bad judgement.

You may have a point if this happened 2-3 overs earlier, but I think people were waiting for some excuse to say sorry he’s fat, it’s cos of his weight they lost the match.

But they didn’t lose and he played an unreal innings and was the matchwinner.
 
Rizwan’s lack of a leg side game?!?!? What?

I’ll assume, in your attempt to point score, you meant Rizwan’s lack of offside game.

The difference is, Rizzy continues to work on that weakness. He also brings a lot to the team aside from his batting as well, especially his keeping and his leadership.

Next.

Yes obviously I meant offside game - mistakes happen. 1 point for you - yawn.

He continues to work at his game? He has had this glaring weakness for years and hasn’t fixed it. What’s he working on? Convincing the opposition to feed his legside?

You have double standards because Azam is fat and your inferiority complex is coming to the fore that you don’t want a fat person to represent your team “oooh what will everyone think”
 
Rizwan’s lack of a leg side game?!?!? What?

I’ll assume, in your attempt to point score, you meant Rizwan’s lack of offside game.

The difference is, Rizzy continues to work on that weakness. He also brings a lot to the team aside from his batting as well, especially his keeping and his leadership.

Next.

What leadership and his keeping is nothing exceptional. Only his false piety is exceptional. Batting has cost us 2 WCs already.
 
Yes obviously I meant offside game - mistakes happen. 1 point for you - yawn.

He continues to work at his game? He has had this glaring weakness for years and hasn’t fixed it. What’s he working on? Convincing the opposition to feed his legside?

You have double standards because Azam is fat and your inferiority complex is coming to the fore that you don’t want a fat person to represent your team “oooh what will everyone think”

Wow. That’s quite the revelatory take. Why then does Rizzy keep scoring runs at all levels until very recently? If you miss the good length to him he’ll drive you. If you go too short, he’ll pull you to the leg side. So, if you have to be pretty accurate to restrict him anyway. You pair him with a more attacking option (not Babar) and he can easily rotate strike on a certain balls and keep the scoreboard moving.

Regarding Azam, I could care less what he looks like. Aesthetics matter zero to me. What I care about is functionality. He can only play as keeper in the side, given his gait. It’s common knowledge that our strength is our bowling, and we need the best keeper in Pakistan to keep to those bowlers. If he loses weight, he’s in my team.

Thus, no ‘inferiority complex’, whatever the heck that means.

Next.
 
Wow. That’s quite the revelatory take. Why then does Rizzy keep scoring runs at all levels until very recently? If you miss the good length to him he’ll drive you. If you go too short, he’ll pull you to the leg side. So, if you have to be pretty accurate to restrict him anyway. You pair him with a more attacking option (not Babar) and he can easily rotate strike on a certain balls and keep the scoreboard moving.

Regarding Azam, I could care less what he looks like. Aesthetics matter zero to me. What I care about is functionality. He can only play as keeper in the side, given his gait. It’s common knowledge that our strength is our bowling, and we need the best keeper in Pakistan to keep to those bowlers. If he loses weight, he’s in my team.

Thus, no ‘inferiority complex’, whatever the heck that means.

Next.

Aah yes, he scored very well in the World Cup when everyone had him figured out.

He’s a leg side hack. No more.

He has only gone back to scoring in the BPL and here. If you want to give him credit for these recent performances then you should not be finding criticisms of Azam Khan either because he’s thrashed the same bowlers at a better rate. But unfortunately your bias and inferiority complex won’t allow you.
 
What leadership and his keeping is nothing exceptional. Only his false piety is exceptional. Batting has cost us 2 WCs already.

Right. I could direct you to Andy Flowers’s recent words on Rizzy:

“ I've worked with some really great captains over the years and Rizwan, I find, is an excellent leader. He's got strength and positivity, which means that people will follow him. He thinks he has clear views on the game. I like debating cricket with him, debating selections or strategy, but he has very clear views and the courage about the way he plays, something that makes him a leader other people want to follow. They see that he's not afraid to challenge the opposition, to take on particular situations, to lose.”

Do you think Usama Mir, Ihsanullah and Abbas Afridi would be bowling with the confidence they’ve shown under any other captain? Even Khushdil has looked very good under Rizzy.

As regards his wicket keeping, you may need to go to Speccsavers if you don’t think his keeping is class.

Lastly, don’t make accusations about fake piety. That assertion is as valid as your opinions are.
 
Aah yes, he scored very well in the World Cup when everyone had him figured out.

He’s a leg side hack. No more.

He has only gone back to scoring in the BPL and here. If you want to give him credit for these recent performances then you should not be finding criticisms of Azam Khan either because he’s thrashed the same bowlers at a better rate. But unfortunately your bias and inferiority complex won’t allow you.

I don’t have an inferiority complex. I do though, have a great appreciation for drive and clear priorities. Azam, at this stage should be in the Pakistan team as a regular. Why? Because he’s previously been picked for Pakistan two years ago, and failed. That should have been a wake up call for him, where he should have done the fitness work (alongside his sterling performances) to make himself indispensable. Two years is a long time. And we’ve seen zero inclination to improve that fitness.

Like I said, my ‘bias’ against him is regarding how he fits the team combination. If he puts the necessary work in, he walks into my squad, no questions asked.

So, you can keep repeating “inferiority complex” to feel special about your opinions, but you’ve made zero points about how his weight affects the team combo.

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What leadership and his keeping is nothing exceptional. Only his false piety is exceptional. Batting has cost us 2 WCs already.

Andy Flower, widely regarded as one of the top thinkers in the game tells a different story. Now tell me, do we believe you or him? It's a tough one
 
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