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PM Imran Khan launches universal health insurance for Punjab

You reallly dont understand pakistani politics do you..

Pronvincial autonomy never existed it came after the 18th. This amendment came due to a majority by ppp in 2010. This give pronvincial autonmy and thus the reason why sehat card exists in kpk was because pti enjoying autonymy. Before that everything came from the center.

Bb income wasnt used to buy votes, its still being used in pakistan the current govt gave covid cash by the name of ehsas fund this was basically bb income support whose name they changed.

Btw how is ik a social democrat when the economy is based on capitalism and even the sehat card isnt a socialist reform as its not applied in all hospitals.

Everything came from the centre yet both old parties failed to establish a viable health system. Your so called socialist champs the ppp failed to do so and when given the riches of the 18th amendment failed again. So they essentially failed twice.

The bb income support programme was audited by Dr nishtar and was found to be a nice way for some to enjoy themselves courtesy of the PPP.

Finally your comment on IK. A socialist programmes core purpose its very existence is to help the poor and working class. The programmes ik has put in place do just that. Your comment is not based on facts since western economies like the uk and Scandinavia are capitalist but that doesn't stop them from implementing socialist policies like the NHS and welfare.

It must hurt the theakedars of socialism the ppp and their supporters that someone they say is a capitalist stooge is implementing social programmes..
 
Everything came from the centre yet both old parties failed to establish a viable health system. Your so called socialist champs the ppp failed to do so and when given the riches of the 18th amendment failed again. So they essentially failed twice.

The bb income support programme was audited by Dr nishtar and was found to be a nice way for some to enjoy themselves courtesy of the PPP.

Finally your comment on IK. A socialist programmes core purpose its very existence is to help the poor and working class. The programmes ik has put in place do just that. Your comment is not based on facts since western economies like the uk and Scandinavia are capitalist but that doesn't stop them from implementing socialist policies like the NHS and welfare.

It must hurt the theakedars of socialism the ppp and their supporters that someone they say is a capitalist stooge is implementing social programmes..

You have just accepted a narrative and want to believe on that looks like. You are not here to discuss anything but trying to just shove your narrative down on others.

Like i have mentioned in the posts above and have to repeat myself, Bhutto brought social reforms. Benazir couldn't because her govt would last for 1-2 years which is not enough to bring any reform. She faced resistance from the ISI who made a politcal party against her to make her govt weak and the president kept removing her.
No social reforms can be done in a 2 years time.

Again, 18 amendment came in 2010 and during that time Pakistan was suffering from terrorims which was priority no.1

Situations started to improve after 2014-15.

BB income support has a good reputation and has been honored. Yes corruption did take place in that like in every govt program. BB income support was so good that even the current govt couldnt remove it and rename it as Ehsas.

Also, IK has not bought any socialist reform. This sehat card has nothing to do with socialism. Sehat card cannot be used in every hospital. To even consider this a socialism reform or part of a socialist economy the card needs to be valid in every hospital of the country.

To call it a socialist reform is ridiculous as already govt hospitals were free for everyone. Would that be socialism? nope, because only govt hospital was free while the rest weren.

anyways, no point in arguing or discussing any further as you are not open to anything and just want to belief on the notions or narratives you already have.
 
You have just accepted a narrative and want to believe on that looks like. You are not here to discuss anything but trying to just shove your narrative down on others.

Like i have mentioned in the posts above and have to repeat myself, Bhutto brought social reforms. Benazir couldn't because her govt would last for 1-2 years which is not enough to bring any reform. She faced resistance from the ISI who made a politcal party against her to make her govt weak and the president kept removing her.
No social reforms can be done in a 2 years time.

Again, 18 amendment came in 2010 and during that time Pakistan was suffering from terrorims which was priority no.1

Situations started to improve after 2014-15.

BB income support has a good reputation and has been honored. Yes corruption did take place in that like in every govt program. BB income support was so good that even the current govt couldnt remove it and rename it as Ehsas.

Also, IK has not bought any socialist reform. This sehat card has nothing to do with socialism. Sehat card cannot be used in every hospital. To even consider this a socialism reform or part of a socialist economy the card needs to be valid in every hospital of the country.

To call it a socialist reform is ridiculous as already govt hospitals were free for everyone. Would that be socialism? nope, because only govt hospital was free while the rest weren.

anyways, no point in arguing or discussing any further as you are not open to anything and just want to belief on the notions or narratives you already have.

Yeah Ehsaas is just BISP renamed.... I forgot that Rashan, Nashonuma, Panahgah, Langarkhanay, Emergency cash, Scholarship etc were all part of BISP.


You think everybody is as uninformed as you? And funny how you easily brushed aside 800,000 people who were freeloading on BISP as minor corruption that takes place everywhere. No wonder you support looters and plunderers because corruption isn't a big deal for you. Your moral compass needs an update.
 
You have just accepted a narrative and want to believe on that looks like. You are not here to discuss anything but trying to just shove your narrative down on others.

Like i have mentioned in the posts above and have to repeat myself, Bhutto brought social reforms. Benazir couldn't because her govt would last for 1-2 years which is not enough to bring any reform. She faced resistance from the ISI who made a politcal party against her to make her govt weak and the president kept removing her.
No social reforms can be done in a 2 years time.

Again, 18 amendment came in 2010 and during that time Pakistan was suffering from terrorims which was priority no.1

Situations started to improve after 2014-15.

BB income support has a good reputation and has been honored. Yes corruption did take place in that like in every govt program. BB income support was so good that even the current govt couldnt remove it and rename it as Ehsas.

Also, IK has not bought any socialist reform. This sehat card has nothing to do with socialism. Sehat card cannot be used in every hospital. To even consider this a socialism reform or part of a socialist economy the card needs to be valid in every hospital of the country.

To call it a socialist reform is ridiculous as already govt hospitals were free for everyone. Would that be socialism? nope, because only govt hospital was free while the rest weren.

anyways, no point in arguing or discussing any further as you are not open to anything and just want to belief on the notions or narratives you already have.

But BB did have time to fleece billions from a poor country and her terrible legacy of plunder lives to this day. AZ and his ugly sister are billionaires in $, where did this money cone from? As far as her removal concerned, ISI had a partner, do you know who it was? Lol
As far as BB income support programme is concerned, firstly a decent idea was turned into a cash cow for the PPP, why was that ? And you proudly tell us that the PTI couldn't get rid of the BB name from the support programme, but if I am not mistaken you were worried about the colour of the Sehat card. One of these days I will read something from you and not think what a hypocrite.
 
You have just accepted a narrative and want to believe on that looks like. You are not here to discuss anything but trying to just shove your narrative down on others.

Like i have mentioned in the posts above and have to repeat myself, Bhutto brought social reforms. Benazir couldn't because her govt would last for 1-2 years which is not enough to bring any reform. She faced resistance from the ISI who made a politcal party against her to make her govt weak and the president kept removing her.
No social reforms can be done in a 2 years time.

Yet you expect IK to change the country in three. The PPP have had acontinuos govt in sindh for a number of years. As Showbaaz has shown us, nothing would have stopped them from spending money in Sindh. Can you explain why the healthcare system in sindh is practically non existent even after the 18th amendment change?


Again, 18 amendment came in 2010 and during that time Pakistan was suffering from terrorims which was priority no.1

And yet the same excuse was not given by the KPK govt that suffered the most from terrorism but managed to implement a reasonable health care system. Why couldnt Sindh do the same? what was stopping them?

Situations started to improve after 2014-15.

BB income support has a good reputation and has been honored. Yes corruption did take place in that like in every govt program. BB income support was so good that even the current govt couldnt remove it and rename it as Ehsas.

Actually it has been proven through quantitive and qualitive analysis that this is wrong. Dr Nishtar has said this at various points and the data is available on the net. There was massive corruption in the scheme and it was used during the zardari era to buy votes and other skullduggery.



Also, IK has not bought any socialist reform. This sehat card has nothing to do with socialism. Sehat card cannot be used in every hospital. To even consider this a socialism reform or part of a socialist economy the card needs to be valid in every hospital of the country.

For now. It will ultimately become such. And im sorry but you have no idea what a socialist policy is. Your just not willing to accept the fact that the guardians of socialism in Pakistan have failed to uphold their own so called beliefs. What workers laws were changed in Sindh? what are workers rights like in Sindh?
A socialist govts first order of business is to help the working class. so lets look at labour rights in Sindh:

https://tribune.com.pk/article/90973/the-problem-with-labour-laws-in-sindh
https://cleanclothes.org/news/2021/solidarity-statement-for-workers-from-sindh-province-pakistan
https://www.dawn.com/news/1363661

the above are only some of the recent acheivements of the thaekedars of socialism the PPP.



To call it a socialist reform is ridiculous as already govt hospitals were free for everyone. Would that be socialism? nope, because only govt hospital was free while the rest werent.

what is it then? free healthcare or universal healthcare is a prime socialist policy. Its one of the main pillars of social policy. This card is the first step to a proper universal healthcare system. You think he can implement the british NHS in a day? Now poor workers can take their card and get treated in nearly any hospital with more joining the list in due course. The aim is the card will allow treatment for all , everywhere. That is a socialist policy. I dont really think you get it.


anyways, no point in arguing or discussing any further as you are not open to anything and just want to belief on the notions or narratives you already have.

By the way i lived in Zia's Pakistan, Benazirs Pakistan, Nawaz and bibis Pakistan, visited mushy's pakistan and for a brief period zardaris pakistan. The PPP were terrible but then so was nawaz sharif. Benazir was just incompetent and was a waderi. Her party was full of corrupt individuals. I studied with Aitzaz ahsanes son for a very brief period. My Naankay are from Kharian and have had dealings with Kaira and co. Who are part of the kabza mafia. When I was growing up I spent significant amounts of time in punjab and saw the way these people ran elections and brainwashed people..
 
By the way i lived in Zia's Pakistan, Benazirs Pakistan, Nawaz and bibis Pakistan, visited mushy's pakistan and for a brief period zardaris pakistan. The PPP were terrible but then so was nawaz sharif. Benazir was just incompetent and was a waderi. Her party was full of corrupt individuals. I studied with Aitzaz ahsanes son for a very brief period. My Naankay are from Kharian and have had dealings with Kaira and co. Who are part of the kabza mafia. When I was growing up I spent significant amounts of time in punjab and saw the way these people ran elections and brainwashed people..

Even pti is full of currpt individuals.... What is your point.

Zab belonging from land owning family bought land reforms let that sink in
 
Even pti is full of currpt individuals.... What is your point.

Zab belonging from land owning family bought land reforms let that sink in

It has sunk in, ZAB passed laws but not only do waderas exist in PK, they totally control the PPP. Can you tell us what the limit was land ownership?
 
ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Imran Khan Wednesday launched the Naya Pakistan Qaumi Sehat Card scheme for the residents of Islamabad and said Pakistan would "set an example" for the world through this Rs450 billion welfare initiative.

Under the scheme, all families of Islamabad, Punjab, Azad Jammu and Kashmir, Gilgit Baltistan, and Tharparkar will be provided free medical treatment at government and private hospitals, Radio Pakistan reported.

The card will enable every family to avail healthcare facilities up to one million rupees in a year.

"We will be an example to the world of what a welfare state is," he told the participants of the ceremony, where Chief Minister Punjab Usman Buzdar, Special Assistant to PM on Health Faisal Sultan, Federal Minister for Information and Broadcasting Fawad Chaudhry, and others were present.

“This will prove as a defining moment in improvement of healthcare services in Pakistan,” he said.

In Pakistan, he said, the launch of such a facility was a “landmark step” to accommodate people bearing the burden of expensive medical treatment.

The prime minister said anyone with the card could get themselves treated at any private medical facility, lamenting that the country's health system was functional only to "serve the elites".

He said doctors did not go to rural areas to continue their practice, and as a result, people living there were unable to get quality healthcare. "People [go to] Islamabad and Rawalpindi from Mianwali to get themselves treated."

He mentioned that the government was establishing five mother and child hospitals in view of the high mortality rate from neonatal and pregnancy complications.

The prime minister said the Rehmatul Lil Alameen Authority would also highlight the way of life of the Prophet (Peace be Upon Him) who emphasised on empathy for the poor and deserving.

'Campaign' against Usman Buzdar
Criticising the Opposition, the prime minister said a campaign was launched against the Punjab chief minister. "The campaign against him is like nothing that I have ever seen."

But despite the campaign, the prime minister noted that in a recent survey, people had expressed satisfaction over the development works and performance of CM Buzdar.

'Silent revolution'

For his part, the chief minister said by the end of March, all of Punjab will be able to access facilities of the Sehat Card. "The government has increased the health budget by 200%."

Meanwhile, addressing the ceremony, Dr Sultan said the Sehat Card facility would be extended to people across the country, gradually, as he claimed Pakistan was moving towards becoming a welfare state.

He said a "silent revolution" was taking place in Pakistan's health sector. Dr Sultan added that the Sehat Card would help middle-class families as their budget was affected whenever someone from their family suffers health issues.

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Prime Minister Imran Khan on Tuesday launched the Naya Pakistan National Health Card scheme in Bahawalpur.

According to APP, about 10.5 million people from the districts of Rahim Yar Khan, Bahawalpur and Bahawalnagar in the Bahawalpur Division were included in the programme, raising the number of people and households in the programme in Punjab by 63 per cent.

Addressing the ceremony on the occasion, the prime minister said the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf's (PTI) struggle was to ensure the supremacy of the rule of law and making Pakistan a welfare state. The prime minister said the government has launched the Ehsaas project, Kamyab Jawan Programme, and the Sehat card to turn the country into a welfare state.

Poor countries across the world could not develop because their rulers plundered the national resources, the premier said, adding that the nation had to stand up against these "robbers" to end corruption.

He also referred to a plea filed by the Supreme Court Bar Association (SCBA) against the lifetime disqualification under Article 62(1)(f). According to the PM, such a plea justified "theft" by the powerful while the poor were languishing in prison cells on similar charges.

Imran said the Sharif family has properties worth billions in the most expensive city of Europe. "When Nawaz was asked about the properties owned by his children, he said didn't know how his children acquired these properties and when the children were asked, they said they 'weren't citizens of Pakistan'".

Referring to the region, the premier said the South Punjab Secretariat will be inaugurated during his next visit to the region, adding that southern Punjab has been ignored by the government for a long time.

The National Health Card has already been distributed among people in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Punjab, Islamabad, District Tharparkar, Gilgit Baltistan and Azad Jammu and Kashmir.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2341458/pm-imran-launches-health-card-scheme-in-bahawalpur
 
Now Billo is claiming credit for the Sehat Card. And some people think the clown is a future leader
 
Now Billo is claiming credit for the Sehat Card. And some people think the clown is a future leader

You should watch the PML N social media wing, they are photo editing the Sehat Card and adding the PML N name, Nawaz Sharif's pic on it and propogating that the idea was all Nawaz Sharif's and that IK is just copy pasting the great leaders vision.
 
You should watch the PML N social media wing, they are photo editing the Sehat Card and adding the PML N name, Nawaz Sharif's pic on it and propogating that the idea was all Nawaz Sharif's and that IK is just copy pasting the great leaders vision.

And these clowns are apparently competent. IA the inflation comes down, the clowns will start to get brown pants soon.
 
Why should Pakistanis care about the Sehat Card?

This provision is the first of its kind in Pakistan which promises to revolutionize the healthcare system.


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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I strongly condemn the blocking of Punjab health card scheme which was a blessing for the vast majority of the population, especially given the crushing inflation eating into their earnings.<a href="https://t.co/9DGHT3N4Ep">https://t.co/9DGHT3N4Ep</a></p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1622514029292924928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 6, 2023</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Moreover, the private sector was in the process of setting up hospitals in the rural areas because of health insurance. This entire project was applauded by the leading int health journal Lancet. Abolishing it reflects the callous mindset of these two corrupt family parties.</p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1622514032073637889?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 6, 2023</a></blockquote>
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Called it on day 1. This was gonna fail because it was being run on imf loans. The projects idea was good but the the project was never sutainable as we are a country that operates on loans.

Imf loans are not for such projects, they are given so that we invest in money generation that could help revive the economy.

This project was never sustainable. Closing of this project has nothing to do with corruption that imran likes to associate everything with.

You need a mechanism that generates money and than could be used in sehat card.

Shaukat khanum does the same thing. It doesnt gice free treatment, they charge you hefty amount. They even sold covid vaccine about te govt set mrate for vaccines and no one complained about it.
 
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Called it on day 1. This was gonna fail because it was being run on imf loans. The projects idea was good but the the project was never sutainable as we are a country that operates on loans.

Imf loans are not for such projects, they are given so that we invest in money generation that could help revive the economy.

This project was never sustainable. Closing of this project has nothing to do with corruption that imran likes to associate everything with.

You need a mechanism that generates money and than could be used in sehat card.

Shaukat khanum does the same thing. It doesnt gice free treatment, they charge you hefty amount. They even sold covid vaccine about te govt set mrate for vaccines and no one complained about it.

Nani told SS to stop the project and tell the public we have run out of money because everytime a poor person gets treated they will praise IK. But its ok to spend billions on luxury going abroad on holidays like Billo, build swimming pools, bribe Senators and MNAs but not treat the poor for health problems. It was and will remain, one of IKs greatest achievements and its one of the reasons why he is loved by the public.
 
Nani told SS to stop the project and tell the public we have run out of money because everytime a poor person gets treated they will praise IK. But its ok to spend billions on luxury going abroad on holidays like Billo, build swimming pools, bribe Senators and MNAs but not treat the poor for health problems. It was and will remain, one of IKs greatest achievements and its one of the reasons why he is loved by the public.

conspiracy theories 101. A sample of how the PTI fan brain works.

yes, an unsustainable project will always be Imrans biggest achievement as it defines what he does. Make things that are unsustainable and cant even run. Other failing countries should take the leaf out of Imrans book.

More like the biggest example of how not to spend loan money when your economy doesnt generate income
 
conspiracy theories 101. A sample of how the PTI fan brain works.

yes, an unsustainable project will always be Imrans biggest achievement as it defines what he does. Make things that are unsustainable and cant even run. Other failing countries should take the leaf out of Imrans book.

More like the biggest example of how not to spend loan money when your economy doesnt generate income

That's what the tories said to Keir Hardy.

Have your choars presented an alternative? Oh yes purana Pakistan. Meaning if yu get sick and can't pay just die and help Pakistan with its population "problem"
 
Sorry I meant to say Anuerin Bevan and Attlee. This is what the tories said to them. But the establishment of th NHS was a gradual process that followed a similar trajectory to the service in Pakistan. But patwaris and zardari worshippers don't believe in helping people. They believe might is right and the poor should service them like mules or die.
 
conspiracy theories 101. A sample of how the PTI fan brain works.

yes, an unsustainable project will always be Imrans biggest achievement as it defines what he does. Make things that are unsustainable and cant even run. Other failing countries should take the leaf out of Imrans book.

More like the biggest example of how not to spend loan money when your economy doesnt generate income

Werent you the guy that the attack on IK was staged by the IK. So lets not go there.

This is fact( watch the tape) and slap yourself for allowing criminals to steal from the poor. But as we know your morals are those of your leaders.
 
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So was I promoting a conspiracy because you have gone awfully quiet. You have no problem with Billo pretending to Foreign Minister and spending billions on trips that can just as easily be substituted with a Zoom meeting You have no problems with AZ spending billions on bribing senators and MNAs( money that is stolen from the poor of Sindh) but your problem was poor people getting free treatment. As you are under educated you may not understand that this policy should have been at the heart of the PPP governance if they stuck to their purported ideology and that's why they, you and your ilk have been exposed as fake. IK has achieved more than 3 years than your crooks had done in 50. That's why the public love and you have to threaten and kill people to vote for you
 
Zoom would never sponsor PTI. PTI fans can only dream about that.
 
Major feels spending on Health Care is a waste of time and resoures, he keeps exposing himself with his views and his blind support for the Sharif brothers, Bhutto's, Zardari and ofcourse Misbah ul Haq.
 
He along with these mafia guys hate anything that gives dignity to the poor. Serfs

That's strange because I'm reading the people's party manifesto and they proposed a family health card linked to an integrated system subsidised by the state.

So why are you against this? [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION]
 
Also why did they not bring in this system into Sindh. The PTI made a manifesto pledge to introduce a health card and costed it. They brought it into the province where they got elected. Why didn't the PPP? Also can you clarify how many manifesto pledges the PPP has fulfilled in their province? [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION]
 
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Was my video of Nani telling SS to stop the project a conspiracy or not. I see you have decided to run away from your allegation that I made it up.
 
Major feels spending on Health Care is a waste of time and resoures, he keeps exposing himself with his views and his blind support for the Sharif brothers, Bhutto's, Zardari and ofcourse Misbah ul Haq.

Yes all of a sudden savakncares about tax payers money, the guy who says bomb blast will happen, schdule matches forget the people....

Lol foreign ministry should run on zoom :))) pti fans have to be the most naive lot ever
 
Also why did they not bring in this system into Sindh. The PTI made a manifesto pledge to introduce a health card and costed it. They brought it into the province where they got elected. Why didn't the PPP? Also can you clarify how many manifesto pledges the PPP has fulfilled in their province? [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION]

Heath cards are not sustainable as i have said 100 times here. I wont bother repeating myself becuase i dont expect logical response. I have elaborated on thia enough that what imf loans are for and you cant run programs on loan money. Sustainability needs to exist
 
Heath cards are not sustainable as i have said 100 times here. I wont bother repeating myself becuase i dont expect logical response. I have elaborated on thia enough that what imf loans are for and you cant run programs on loan money. Sustainability needs to exist

But living a life of luxury is sustainable by a predatory elite. Depends on your priorities and you morals- both of which your ilk has misplaced.

BTW
Why are you running on the Nani video- is it fake? Is it a conspiracy? Or just plain inhumanity?
 
Heath cards are not sustainable as i have said 100 times here. I wont bother repeating myself becuase i dont expect logical response. I have elaborated on thia enough that what imf loans are for and you cant run programs on loan money. Sustainability needs to exist

IK did manage it- the fiscal deficit was less than these crooks managed with no healthcare, the CAD was lower, the growth was higher infact 6%, inflation was quarter of what it is today, remittances were higher, exports were higher, we had democracy where the opposition werent thrown into jail for trumped charges, journalists weren't being killed, a PM that wasnt on bail for corruption, media that was free and courts had their judgements respected. Infact PK was progressing and look at these clowns today, an absolute shambles without a single achievement.
 
Heath cards are not sustainable as i have said 100 times here. I wont bother repeating myself becuase i dont expect logical response. I have elaborated on thia enough that what imf loans are for and you cant run programs on loan money. Sustainability needs to exist

So in other words if you mismanage an economy you cant provide health care. However if yu deftly manage an economy while still owing money and provide healthcare it can be done. But you need to be competent. Thank you for finally admitting that your govt is incompetent and useless...Please order your rubber dingy as soon as possible.
 
Spending on Health cards is not sustainable but spending on Metro's and Orange Trains (Projects which have been criticized internationally for being non-sustainable, requiring massive subsidizes and no recourse to get a ROI) are genius initiatives?
 
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He along with these mafia guys hate anything that gives dignity to the poor. Serfs

Actually I don’t support any of the mainstream parties. They’re far too right wing and incompetent for my liking.

Hate PDM and PTI but the supporters of the latter need to be kept in check because they all view IK as if he’s some kind of messiah.
 
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Raped the economy, destroyed the ruppee, 40% inflation, eroded the poor's buying power now stealing their free healthcare. I hope Allah's wrath falls on the PDM scums and their supporters. Ameen
 
Called it on day 1. This was gonna fail because it was being run on imf loans. The projects idea was good but the the project was never sutainable as we are a country that operates on loans.

Imf loans are not for such projects, they are given so that we invest in money generation that could help revive the economy.

This project was never sustainable. Closing of this project has nothing to do with corruption that imran likes to associate everything with.

You need a mechanism that generates money and than could be used in sehat card.

Shaukat khanum does the same thing. It doesnt gice free treatment, they charge you hefty amount. They even sold covid vaccine about te govt set mrate for vaccines and no one complained about it.

Has the IMF themself ever called this an irresponsible use of their loans?

Here is a report by IMF themselves suggesting spending actually needs to increase:

11. Healthcare spending would need to increase significantly by 2030 to meet the SDG targets. Pakistan would need to almost triple its healthcare spending in terms of GDP-from the current 2.8 percent to 8.2 percent by 2030-to meet the SDG targets and perform at a commensurate level with high-performing peer countries (Table 2). This would require increasing public healthcare spending almost five-fold in terms of GDP, from 0.9 percent in 2018 to 4.3 in 2030.

Increasing the number of doctors and medical personnel. Pakistan needs to substantially increase the number of medical service providers. The number of doctors per 1,000 inhabitants should increase from its current level of 0.6 to 0.9. The number of other medical personnel such as nurses and midwives should be increased to almost six times its current level. The wages of doctors are slightly higher than in high-performing peer countries, thus there is room to increase the number of doctors while allowing salaries to increase by less than GDP per capita.

The public and private share of total health spending could be more balanced. Private spending represents two-thirds of total health spending in Pakistan, significantly above the level in high-performing peer countries. Increasing the public share of spending would increase the access of poor households to healthcare.

https://www.elibrary.imf.org/view/journals/002/2022/027/article-A005-en.xml?rskey=nPTBQ1&result=2
 
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Called it on day 1. This was gonna fail because it was being run on imf loans. The projects idea was good but the the project was never sutainable as we are a country that operates on loans.

Imf loans are not for such projects, they are given so that we invest in money generation that could help revive the economy.

This project was never sustainable. Closing of this project has nothing to do with corruption that imran likes to associate everything with.

You need a mechanism that generates money and than could be used in sehat card.

Shaukat khanum does the same thing. It doesnt gice free treatment, they charge you hefty amount. They even sold covid vaccine about te govt set mrate for vaccines and no one complained about it.

Could you also clarify whether scholarships for 10s of thousands of underpriveleged students is also an irresponsible use of IMF funds? If not, why did PDM shoot this down?

https://twitter.com/SaniaNishtar/status/1622657448367783936?cxt=HHwWgIDUocSW64QtAAAA

Lastly, could you clarify if these are instead a better use of IMF funds?

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2397781/budget-for-mps-schemes-increased-to-rs90b

In complete disregard to the looming economic meltdown, the government on Wednesday approved the increase in discretionary spending of parliamentarians to Rs90 billion as it allocated Rs844 million for the renovation of judges’ residences.

ECC approved the additional Rs3 billion despite the recommendation by the National Austerity Committee to stop funding for the parliamentarians’ schemes.

This indicates that the committee is just another debating club.

ECC decided to give Rs3 billion to parliamentarians by slashing the budget of an educational institute and the Innovation Support Project, which speaks volumes about the priorities of the ruling alliance.
 
Has the IMF themself ever called this an irresponsible use of their loans?

Here is a report by IMF themselves suggesting spending actually needs to increase:

11. Healthcare spending would need to increase significantly by 2030 to meet the SDG targets. Pakistan would need to almost triple its healthcare spending in terms of GDP-from the current 2.8 percent to 8.2 percent by 2030-to meet the SDG targets and perform at a commensurate level with high-performing peer countries (Table 2). This would require increasing public healthcare spending almost five-fold in terms of GDP, from 0.9 percent in 2018 to 4.3 in 2030.

Increasing the number of doctors and medical personnel. Pakistan needs to substantially increase the number of medical service providers. The number of doctors per 1,000 inhabitants should increase from its current level of 0.6 to 0.9. The number of other medical personnel such as nurses and midwives should be increased to almost six times its current level. The wages of doctors are slightly higher than in high-performing peer countries, thus there is room to increase the number of doctors while allowing salaries to increase by less than GDP per capita.

The public and private share of total health spending could be more balanced. Private spending represents two-thirds of total health spending in Pakistan, significantly above the level in high-performing peer countries. Increasing the public share of spending would increase the access of poor households to healthcare.

https://www.elibrary.imf.org/view/journals/002/2022/027/article-A005-en.xml?rskey=nPTBQ1&result=2

Very easy to copy and paste without even understanding the point.

If i give you. A loan of 1 carore rupppees you can do two things. Eat the money for 12 months and than run out ofnit by 13th month, or invest it and earn money on it.

Thats what imf money is for. Pakistan was going towards bankruptcy and there was never going to be any funds for this political gimmick of a card.

Sdg for health care means having more docs and having better hospitals. Not that you waste money on a program that runs on loans
 
Spending on Health cards is not sustainable but spending on Metro's and Orange Trains (Projects which have been criticized internationally for being non-sustainable, requiring massive subsidizes and no recourse to get a ROI) are genius initiatives?

Didnt imran also make a metro?

Also, public transport is a necessity.

For health care, a sustainable development would had been making mediciens cheap which pti increase by ten times
 
Very easy to copy and paste without even understanding the point.

If i give you. A loan of 1 carore rupppees you can do two things. Eat the money for 12 months and than run out ofnit by 13th month, or invest it and earn money on it.

Thats what imf money is for. Pakistan was going towards bankruptcy and there was never going to be any funds for this political gimmick of a card.

Sdg for health care means having more docs and having better hospitals. Not that you waste money on a program that runs on loans

Really?

https://www.who.int/news-room/featu...progress-health-sustainable-development-goals

The WHO Country Office in Pakistan is leading SDG3 GAP coordination at the country level. WHO organized a high-level “primary health care for universal health coverage” (PHC4UHC) mission on 1–5 March 2021, which united eight SDG3 GAP partners in Pakistan to review the status of PHC and sustainable health financing and advise on a model of care to ensure effective implementation of the UHC Benefit Package.

Also waiting for source on IMF calling this unsustainable or irresponsible.
 
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Could you also clarify whether scholarships for 10s of thousands of underpriveleged students is also an irresponsible use of IMF funds? If not, why did PDM shoot this down?

https://twitter.com/SaniaNishtar/status/1622657448367783936?cxt=HHwWgIDUocSW64QtAAAA

Lastly, could you clarify if these are instead a better use of IMF funds?

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2397781/budget-for-mps-schemes-increased-to-rs90b

In complete disregard to the looming economic meltdown, the government on Wednesday approved the increase in discretionary spending of parliamentarians to Rs90 billion as it allocated Rs844 million for the renovation of judges’ residences.

ECC approved the additional Rs3 billion despite the recommendation by the National Austerity Committee to stop funding for the parliamentarians’ schemes.

This indicates that the committee is just another debating club.

ECC decided to give Rs3 billion to parliamentarians by slashing the budget of an educational institute and the Innovation Support Project, which speaks volumes about the priorities of the ruling alliance.

Still awaiting clarification on this
 
Really?

https://www.who.int/news-room/featu...progress-health-sustainable-development-goals

The WHO Country Office in Pakistan is leading SDG3 GAP coordination at the country level. WHO organized a high-level “primary health care for universal health coverage” (PHC4UHC) mission on 1–5 March 2021, which united eight SDG3 GAP partners in Pakistan to review the status of PHC and sustainable health financing and advise on a model of care to ensure effective implementation of the UHC Benefit Package.

Also waiting for source on IMF calling this unsustainable or irresponsible.

so if IMF calls it unsustainable than its official? Use some logic here i guess..

Funding a health care program on loans...
 
Was it nonsense when we are bankrupt and some clown is going on holiday spending billions on luxury hotels when 1/2 the population can barely eat roti. What has he achieved? Absolutely nothing and any humane govt would have banned this nonsense. Your a serf, you want to serve these crooks, we PKs want them to serve us.

Foreign mission's are already bugetted. You cant reduce those spendings. Foreign affairs dont operate on an online discussion forum. You do wine and dine with foreign diplomats. Socialize, talk with them and invite each for dinner.

The govt budgets even for the dinner that you will feed your guest because the purpose of the foreign mission is to create relations with the host country.

Foreign minister also does similar things.

By cutting down these expenses, they make no difference. Its just that you have been convinced by your leader and believe that by cutting down this the economy would magically recover.
 
Foreign mission's are already bugetted. You cant reduce those spendings. Foreign affairs dont operate on an online discussion forum. You do wine and dine with foreign diplomats. Socialize, talk with them and invite each for dinner.

The govt budgets even for the dinner that you will feed your guest because the purpose of the foreign mission is to create relations with the host country.

Foreign minister also does similar things.

By cutting down these expenses, they make no difference. Its just that you have been convinced by your leader and believe that by cutting down this the economy would magically recover.

Yes you can. Budgets are adjusted all the time to take account of changing circumstances especially, if you are bankrupt. It requires intelligent people to realise that 230mn are in peril because of the destructive and corrupt policies of the mafia. Billo and his family have abused the poor of Sindh for generations and have nothing to show and serfs will still support them.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Our Health card was not just to provide a safety net to the vast majority of our pop but also a plan to set up a network of health facilities across Pak esp in rural areas where because of a lack of purchasing power the private sector until now was not willing to set up hospitals <a href="https://t.co/9XpDDbOFJN">pic.twitter.com/9XpDDbOFJN</a></p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1623591470967009283?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 9, 2023</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Our Health card was not just to provide a safety net to the vast majority of our pop but also a plan to set up a network of health facilities across Pak esp in rural areas where because of a lack of purchasing power the private sector until now was not willing to set up hospitals <a href="https://t.co/9XpDDbOFJN">pic.twitter.com/9XpDDbOFJN</a></p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1623591470967009283?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 9, 2023</a></blockquote>
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This was a historic achievement and one that people wont forget. You didnt pisss away the money on luxury hotels, or stole to buy houses in London, you actually helped poor people. IA we will go again
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Our Health card was not just to provide a safety net to the vast majority of our pop but also a plan to set up a network of health facilities across Pak esp in rural areas where because of a lack of purchasing power the private sector until now was not willing to set up hospitals <a href="https://t.co/9XpDDbOFJN">pic.twitter.com/9XpDDbOFJN</a></p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1623591470967009283?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 9, 2023</a></blockquote>
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lol, the propoganda this guy does even though he was the only pm in our history to lose the peoples confidence.

They had no money for this project, to fund this project, they closed down the DHQ hospitals in the rural areas. Its funny how he talks about the rural area when he closed down the hospitals for this loan funded card.
 
lol, the propoganda this guy does even though he was the only pm in our history to lose the peoples confidence.

They had no money for this project, to fund this project, they closed down the DHQ hospitals in the rural areas. Its funny how he talks about the rural area when he closed down the hospitals for this loan funded card.

His achievements are the greatest in our history across many spheres. He is the most democratic, the most caring, dealt with a once a lifetime pandemic with aplomb, perhaps the best in the World in the more populous countries, grow the economy, increased exports and the media was free. And no corruption scandals, not one.
Now look at the shambles in 10 months. Just imagine what he would have done over a decade. PK would have developed into Quaids dream
 
His achievements are the greatest in our history across many spheres. He is the most democratic, the most caring, dealt with a once a lifetime pandemic with aplomb, perhaps the best in the World in the more populous countries, grow the economy, increased exports and the media was free. And no corruption scandals, not one.
Now look at the shambles in 10 months. Just imagine what he would have done over a decade. PK would have developed into Quaids dream

democratic? He came in power with the help of the army. He stalled the VONC and violated the constitution. Dont insult democracy here plz. He destroyed the economy, Shaukat Tareen did exactly what Dar did. The guy's 3rd wifes friend got benefits off of him. His own hospital violated govt laws by charging extra for vaccines, and his members were doing scam in sugar, atta and even land.

Stop talking like a kid for once, i expect better from you. He couldn't do anything because he did not have a two third majority, thus whether he would had been on the seat for 10 years doesnt matter as he didnt have the power in National assembly or even Senate to pass and bring a bill.

I respected him somewhat for not being corrupt. But the guy is power hungry and had no idea how to run a govt and he took all the corrupt politicians of other parties to get himself elected. And than when he was being dragged out of the pm office, he tried to sabotage the country by creating a crises and hoping for a coup to take place. Thank God, Bajwa was in his senses that night.

Imran is as flawed as Zardari. Accept it. Only difference is, Zardari has never created a political crises or tried to sabotage the democracy to save his own seat.
 
democratic? He came in power with the help of the army. He stalled the VONC and violated the constitution. Dont insult democracy here plz. He destroyed the economy, Shaukat Tareen did exactly what Dar did. The guy's 3rd wifes friend got benefits off of him. His own hospital violated govt laws by charging extra for vaccines, and his members were doing scam in sugar, atta and even land.

Stop talking like a kid for once, i expect better from you. He couldn't do anything because he did not have a two third majority, thus whether he would had been on the seat for 10 years doesnt matter as he didnt have the power in National assembly or even Senate to pass and bring a bill.

I respected him somewhat for not being corrupt. But the guy is power hungry and had no idea how to run a govt and he took all the corrupt politicians of other parties to get himself elected. And than when he was being dragged out of the pm office, he tried to sabotage the country by creating a crises and hoping for a coup to take place. Thank God, Bajwa was in his senses that night.

Imran is as flawed as Zardari. Accept it. Only difference is, Zardari has never created a political crises or tried to sabotage the democracy to save his own seat.

No he didn't. He was on course to win the elections and everyone knew it. Even you friend [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] claimed that he voted for him. Infact we know he was denied seats by the Generals and your little boy claimed that the elections were rigged but not a single case was registered, I wonder why?
You say he destroyed the economy but with 2 years of 6% growth, exports grew by a 1/3rd and remittances increased, the exchange was allowed to float and millions of jobs were created. And we were on course for 7% by next year. Please more of his failure and less of your mafia success.
If he violated laws then why no cases. Surely you need to ring the mafia and tell them. After all they are short of material and need some help because after 10 months, nothing. And the cheeni guys have joined you. So were they corrupt or nor and if they were, why no cases. So another lie exposed by a guy that lies for a living.
Nothing wrong with being power hungry as long as its not power to make billions and launder them.
IK is the greatest PM we had in the last 60 years. More democratic than any one of his predecessors, more honest than all of them, achieved more in 3 years than the mafia has managed in decades. Its the reason why he will any fair vote vote with around 70%.
 
democratic? He came in power with the help of the army. He stalled the VONC and violated the constitution. Dont insult democracy here plz. He destroyed the economy, Shaukat Tareen did exactly what Dar did. The guy's 3rd wifes friend got benefits off of him. His own hospital violated govt laws by charging extra for vaccines, and his members were doing scam in sugar, atta and even land.

Stop talking like a kid for once, i expect better from you. He couldn't do anything because he did not have a two third majority, thus whether he would had been on the seat for 10 years doesnt matter as he didnt have the power in National assembly or even Senate to pass and bring a bill.

I respected him somewhat for not being corrupt. But the guy is power hungry and had no idea how to run a govt and he took all the corrupt politicians of other parties to get himself elected. And than when he was being dragged out of the pm office, he tried to sabotage the country by creating a crises and hoping for a coup to take place. Thank God, Bajwa was in his senses that night.

Imran is as flawed as Zardari. Accept it. Only difference is, Zardari has never created a political crises or tried to sabotage the democracy to save his own seat.

VONC was no such thing. Bajwa stated clearly it was a millitary coup. You guys were just pansiess given the bone of having your cases dropped. The Generals are in bind, they have backed the wrong horse,and now face article 6 if they are out of power.
 
VONC was no such thing. Bajwa stated clearly it was a millitary coup. You guys were just pansiess given the bone of having your cases dropped. The Generals are in bind, they have backed the wrong horse,and now face article 6 if they are out of power.

Read my posts in the Bilawal thread. Major sahib will soon be vanish8ng like that Indian troll pretending to be a Pakistan Mamoo sahib.
 
VONC was no such thing. Bajwa stated clearly it was a millitary coup. You guys were just pansiess given the bone of having your cases dropped. The Generals are in bind, they have backed the wrong horse,and now face article 6 if they are out of power.

Imran lost the confidence of the people.

VONC is part of the constitution, and the army did not intervene when it took place. During teh VOC vote that happene in 2021, thats when the army and isi intervened to save Imran Khan.
 
Imran lost the confidence of the people.

VONC is part of the constitution, and the army did not intervene when it took place. During teh VOC vote that happene in 2021, thats when the army and isi intervened to save Imran Khan.

You know he did not.

VONC was a political/establishment Coup d'etat

Accept it and move on.

Lets have the next Gen Election and see where we stand.
 
Imran lost the confidence of the people.

VONC is part of the constitution, and the army did not intervene when it took place. During teh VOC vote that happene in 2021, thats when the army and isi intervened to save Imran Khan.

So if that was the case, then the establishment and mafia would have had an election straight away. You look lost because it was a coup and its gone totally pear shaped and you are now looking for any reason not to hold an election. Bajwa has destroyed your narrative because he has admitted the truth.
 
You know he did not.

VONC was a political/establishment Coup d'etat

Accept it and move on.

Lets have the next Gen Election and see where we stand.

No it was not. Its a propaganda narrative that PTI has built. The 2018 election results are there for everyone to see, PTI never had the numbers and existed on a coalition while the army acted as the glue to keep the coalition together. When the army decided not to intervene, the natural course took pace. VONC is part of our constitution and it took place in a valid manner.

If UK did a VONC we justify it, but if it happens in Pakistan than we call it a coup.

Next General Election should only happen when the full 5 years interval is completed.
 
So if that was the case, then the establishment and mafia would have had an election straight away. You look lost because it was a coup and its gone totally pear shaped and you are now looking for any reason not to hold an election. Bajwa has destroyed your narrative because he has admitted the truth.

election will happen on its scheduled time. If anyone tries to delay it, the supreme court will intervene. PTI made promises that they would get elections done in 2022 but they couldn't do so cause they didnt have the power as opposition. Elections take place after 5 years. if they dont happen before November than you may whine.

August 13th is the date set for the NA to dissolve. If it does not dissolve, than you have every reason to complain as that would be a violation of the constitution. But you cant expect elections be called before just because you want to...
 
election will happen on its scheduled time. If anyone tries to delay it, the supreme court will intervene. PTI made promises that they would get elections done in 2022 but they couldn't do so cause they didnt have the power as opposition. Elections take place after 5 years. if they dont happen before November than you may whine.

August 13th is the date set for the NA to dissolve. If it does not dissolve, than you have every reason to complain as that would be a violation of the constitution. But you cant expect elections be called before just because you want to...

I don't mind that, let the mafia choke on their sick. They have created the mess and now they drowning in their criminality. If I was Kaptaan I would let them break the constitution and charge them with article 6 for delaying the elections.
You are hated to a person and the reason is that you are crooks, you are murderers( Arshad Sharif, Memon and Jokhio), you have destroyed the media freedom, you arrested journalists and tortured them, you have tortured political opponents and destroyed every single institution. Our Army has become a figure of fun and derision because its aligned with criminals, our inflation is at 50% and our economy has crashed, the Rp will never recover to its previous levels.
Have all the time you need to dig your grave because unless Hafiz saves you through rigging, your never coming back to power whilst IK is alive.
 
I don't mind that, let the mafia choke on their sick. They have created the mess and now they drowning in their criminality. If I was Kaptaan I would let them break the constitution and charge them with article 6 for delaying the elections.
You are hated to a person and the reason is that you are crooks, you are murderers( Arshad Sharif, Memon and Jokhio), you have destroyed the media freedom, you arrested journalists and tortured them, you have tortured political opponents and destroyed every single institution. Our Army has become a figure of fun and derision because its aligned with criminals, our inflation is at 50% and our economy has crashed, the Rp will never recover to its previous levels.
Have all the time you need to dig your grave because unless Hafiz saves you through rigging, your never coming back to power whilst IK is alive.

:)) our army...
so you accept if the army alligns with PTI you are happy.

I think PTI should be more worry about how to win from Sindh :)). Sindh PPP ka hai
 
No it was not. Its a propaganda narrative that PTI has built. The 2018 election results are there for everyone to see, PTI never had the numbers and existed on a coalition while the army acted as the glue to keep the coalition together. When the army decided not to intervene, the natural course took pace. VONC is part of our constitution and it took place in a valid manner.

If UK did a VONC we justify it, but if it happens in Pakistan than we call it a coup.

Next General Election should only happen when the full 5 years interval is completed.

The PTI Was denied seats to mke sure that they were weak. As you know I disagree with [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] passionately but he said something that struck and that was that the establishment deliberately denied PTI upto 20 seats to make sure they stay in control. Tbh I thought it was rubbish but subsequent events showed that he was right.
Remember all the rubbish from Billo and SS about rigging but no cases were registered at all. And that shows that Bajwa told them to shut it because it could open a can of worms on rigging against IK.
The VONC was no such thing, Bajwa ordered to take power said Javed Latif. Is he lying?
 
:)) our army...
so you accept if the army alligns with PTI you are happy.

I think PTI should be more worry about how to win from Sindh :)). Sindh PPP ka hai

It's sad when a guy on the ropes and no arguments left deliberately misleads " our Army". It will always be our army, not the army of a few Generals. My dad served in our army.
And as far as Sindh is concerned,we will end the torture and looting of a poor province. We will end the murder of innocent people and reign of terror that killed Jokhio and Memon and celebrated their killers.
 
It's sad when a guy on the ropes and no arguments left deliberately misleads " our Army". It will always be our army, not the army of a few Generals. My dad served in our army.
And as far as Sindh is concerned,we will end the torture and looting of a poor province. We will end the murder of innocent people and reign of terror that killed Jokhio and Memon and celebrated their killers.

Didn't realise you were an army brat lol..when did your dad retire and which unit did he serve in?

With regards to [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] Bajwa admitted be got rid of Imran. Its in the public record now. All your robot script is now dead. This was a coup thus everyone who participated in it broke the constitution.

By the wa you have gone very quiet when we exposed your queen benazir and her useless son in the other thread..now you continue on this one..I will have to organise your retreat from here to..
 
Didn't realise you were an army brat lol..when did your dad retire and which unit did he serve in?

With regards to [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] Bajwa admitted be got rid of Imran. Its in the public record now. All your robot script is now dead. This was a coup thus everyone who participated in it broke the constitution.

By the wa you have gone very quiet when we exposed your queen benazir and her useless son in the other thread..now you continue on this one..I will have to organise your retreat from here to..

black zero has already answered those in the ppp thread.

Benazir was never corrupt
 
Didn't realise you were an army brat lol..when did your dad retire and which unit did he serve in?

With regards to [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] Bajwa admitted be got rid of Imran. Its in the public record now. All your robot script is now dead. This was a coup thus everyone who participated in it broke the constitution.

By the wa you have gone very quiet when we exposed your queen benazir and her useless son in the other thread..now you continue on this one..I will have to organise your retreat from here to..

My dad retired in late 1950s. I know he was in Karachi but outside that I don't know much. I wish I had asked more questions when he was alive. Before that he was in Burma and the said thing that all his generation are long dead and there is no one to ask. After my mum died I found some documents about my dads army pension. It was like 10rps per month after he retired or something ridiculously low. [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] it will always be our Army not of the Generals
 
My dad retired in late 1950s. I know he was in Karachi but outside that I don't know much. I wish I had asked more questions when he was alive. Before that he was in Burma and the said thing that all his generation are long dead and there is no one to ask. After my mum died I found some documents about my dads army pension. It was like 10rps per month after he retired or something ridiculously low. [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] it will always be our Army not of the Generals

Fascinating my grandfather fought against the Japanese in burma too..
 
black zero has already answered those in the ppp thread.

Benazir was never corrupt

So the new York times was talking rubbish..lol..as for black zero wasn't he the psychotic Malik ****** lol..hardly credible.

Also there are actual documents that prove they are corrupt.

You follow the corrupt , murderers traitors..says alot about you..
 
Inshallah when IK returns this scheme would be brought back asap and given protection under the law. So that no corrupt politicians can mess around with it and offspring of corrupt bureaucrats can't bad mouth it


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Our Health card was not just to provide a safety net to the vast majority of our pop but also a plan to set up a network of health facilities across Pak esp in rural areas where because of a lack of purchasing power the private sector until now was not willing to set up hospitals <a href="https://t.co/9XpDDbOFJN">pic.twitter.com/9XpDDbOFJN</a></p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1623591470967009283?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 9, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I felt humbled when I visited a Panahgah - labourers being served a meal with dignity & sleeping in warm beds rather than on footpaths in bitter cold. In inhumane acts govt has now closed most Panahgahs & targeted health card scheme too. We will reopen Panahgahs immed on being… <a href="https://t.co/aeKPVoj6OW">pic.twitter.com/aeKPVoj6OW</a></p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1652606251107229700?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 30, 2023</a></blockquote>
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One of the best achievements of IK was to give the poor free health insurance. But Nani and the mafia didn't like it because it was IKs achievement. She told SS to stop the scheme and claim that money had run out. Baniyaat witch will rot in hell
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It is heart-wrenching to hear voices of poor labourers on the ground. Panagahs were their only shelter & a place for a hot meal in these financially austere times. I had personally overseen their establishment. Watching them being closed down by Imported govt is distressing. <a href="https://t.co/lnGvC4mYgJ">pic.twitter.com/lnGvC4mYgJ</a></p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1655625372564697107?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2023</a></blockquote>
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