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Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif on Thursday lifted the ban on departmental sports across the country to “revive competition” between various teams, saying that it would nourish the capacity and capability of aspiring athletes.

The ban on departmental sports was imposed in the country during the PTI tenure at the behest of the then prime minister Imran Khan. Subsequently, the federal government had instructed all public departments, corporations and autonomous bodies to stop their funding to sports teams and instead begin diverting them to regional teams.

Most sportsmen were employed by departments, including javelin thrower Arshad Nadeem and Talha Talib, who impressed with their performances in 2021’sTokyo Olympics

Imran had also abolished the departmental setup in cricket, which resulted in thousands of cricketers losing their jobs, a Dawn report said.

The move had left the top brass of several sports departments fuming and earned immense criticism, especially from the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB).

However, the orders had not been not been implemented till now as all the departments resisted discarding the sportspersons from their department. And after the new government assumed power, all the affected stakeholders hoped for the withdrawal of the previous orders.

At a ceremony in Islamabad today, PM Shehbaz formally announced the reversal of Imran’s sports policy, saying: “This will be a healthy endeavor that will encourage the youth to make Pakistan proud in the sports field.”

The event was attended by sportsmen who bagged top positions in the Commonwealth Games and Islamic Solidarity Game this year. The premier distributed cash among the athletes, including Nuh Dastagir and Arshad Nadeem, and congratulated them on their wins.

“You have made the country proud and are an inspiration for our youth,” he told them, adding that the entire nation was proud of the outstanding performance of the players.

He also expressed confidence that lifting the ban on departmental sports would would bring more laurels to the country and help athletes achieve success in their respective games.

Later, in a tweet, the Prime Minister’s Office said that the PTI government’s decision had rendered thousands jobless. “PM Shehbaz, after assuming office, pledged to restore the departmental sports with an aim to promote healthy games among the youth,” it added.

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Cricket have enough funds. Due to departmental cricket u19 cricketers doesnt get chance in playing 11 due to monopoly of useless seniors players. Many cricketers careers destroyed by departments lobby cricketer due not selecting them in playing 11 although they rope them in pool of squads.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Honoured to host our players & athletes who made the country proud by winning various medals in the Commonwealth Games. Their hard work & devotion was exemplary. Today I also announced the revival of the departmental sports, which was a long-standing demand. <a href="https://t.co/mPDmzCU04a">pic.twitter.com/mPDmzCU04a</a></p>— Shehbaz Sharif (@CMShehbaz) <a href="https://twitter.com/CMShehbaz/status/1562803626804137986?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 25, 2022</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I would like to thanks <a href="https://twitter.com/CMShehbaz?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CMShehbaz</a> from the bottom of my heart for restoring departmental sports..Really a commendable decision As last few years have been very tough for all sportsmen&their families,they all were jobless and had no means to support their families..huge thanks &#55357;&#56911;</p>— Kamran Akmal (@KamiAkmal23) <a href="https://twitter.com/KamiAkmal23/status/1562781840330862593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
What can you expect from a mafia leader? He is there to make more money for the cost of promising young players. Now players like Kamran, Hafeez, Malik will play another 10-15 years.
 
Going backward is considered progress for these corrupt criminals and their dwindling support base. Department sports are nothing more than free handouts to unqualified individuals. PDM and its members are a curse Pakistan will hopefully get rid of permanently in 2023.
 
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@ MenIng, so those 6+6 teams will be dissolved? Also, Ramiz will be sack anytime soon and will be replaced by Sethi.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I would like to thanks <a href="https://twitter.com/CMShehbaz?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CMShehbaz</a> from the bottom of my heart for restoring departmental sports..Really a commendable decision As last few years have been very tough for all sportsmen&their families,they all were jobless and had no means to support their families..huge thanks ��</p>— Kamran Akmal (@KamiAkmal23) <a href="https://twitter.com/KamiAkmal23/status/1562781840330862593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Great now all akmal brothers can play again . :misbah
 
Good news departmental cricket produced us players because you had many teams and unknown fringe players and genuine talent could get games.

The only thing that needs improving is intl standard pitches , better coaches and intl standard kookaburra balls.

Departments should never have been abolished most players were against this

It was just a silly fantasy by imran khan that our top wicket taking bowlers in last few yrs ended up being 2 middle aged spinners called nauman and sajid , his Australian system failed it was never gonna work.

Psl has nothing to do with ik because it's success and foundation lies with sethi it's also another tournament where franchises can unearth talent .
 
I hope it doesn’t have any impact on regional structure in place right now for cricket. I’m all for departments having athletes on their payrolls as long as regions are providing adequate pay for their players to compensate them for choosing regions over departments.
 
This is another backward step by the mafia ruling Pakistan.It will be hard to identify talent from umpteen mediocre teams.Pakistan is the only country which has a departmental system.No other country has it which means it is not the right model.6-8 first teams and second xi are enough.These teams should be sponsored by companies like in other countries.This will solve any financial problems.Why would anyone support a team from customs department or railways?.People want to support their regional teams.
 
@ MenIng, so those 6+6 teams will be dissolved? Also, Ramiz will be sack anytime soon and will be replaced by Sethi.

No idea bro - but some changes will come into play soon
 
Pakistan cricket has always depended on the element of unearthing the hidden superstar. I suppose departmental cricket provides the selectors with more opportunity to find that superstar with more competition and places up for grabs.
 
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Pakistan went with 6 teams for a few seasons and produced uncle spinners who topped the charts,,,but those same uncles and spinners were toothless against Australia at home!
 
Pakistan cricket has always depended on the element of unearthing the hidden superstar. I suppose departmental cricket provides the selectors with more opportunity to find that superstar with more competition and places up for grabs.

No its because some people want a job - nothing to do with talent - read the PMO tweet above.
 
No its because some people want a job - nothing to do with talent - read the PMO tweet above.

Giving people a job is a separate matter. What I meant to say is that you have plenty of opportunity now to unearth a potential superstar like Amir or Mohammad Yousuf due department cricket.

Pakistan would never have found Mohammad Yousuf if the same 6 team system was in place in the 90s
 
Get ready for belly pout cricketers some dibbly dobbly seamers some darters loafers in fielding like the ones with jelly finger
 
Pakistan went with 6 teams for a few seasons and produced uncle spinners who topped the charts,,,but those same uncles and spinners were toothless against Australia at home!

Systems take time to bed. If that is all you took from the changes then I feel sorry for you. And those guys grew up in the system you want.
 
Systems take time to bed. If that is all you took from the changes then I feel sorry for you. And those guys grew up in the system you want.

Haider Ali averaged 50 I believe in the Pakistan domestic season?

I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t survive against decent medium pacers here in England even at minor counties level with the massive gap he leaves between bat and pad whilst batting. The pakistan fc system even now is questionable
 
Seems like a job for the boys type thing - back to square one.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Congratulations to all sports fraternity of Pakistan. Welcome decision from PM <a href="https://twitter.com/CMShehbaz?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CMShehbaz</a> restoration of departmental sports ❤️✅. Pakistan Zindabad</p>— Mohammad Hafeez (@MHafeez22) <a href="https://twitter.com/MHafeez22/status/1562806905109561344?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 25, 2022</a></blockquote>
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Oh great, I guess the all the old cronies and corruption will be back in full force.
 
Haider Ali averaged 50 I believe in the Pakistan domestic season?

I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t survive against decent medium pacers here in England even at minor counties level with the massive gap he leaves between bat and pad whilst batting. The pakistan fc system even now is questionable

Systems aren't there to iron out technical flaws of players, they are there to create a competitive environment for the players to develop. And how will Habib Bank playing PIA help with technical flaws. The standard of cricket has been vastly superior to the tripe played on under prepared, poorly managed system that was there before. This is not to say that it doesn't have flaws, quite a few infact.
 
Good question.

Not a peep out of them when asked to sponsor.

This is about control. The same depts could have employed the same players and sponsored the regional teams. What could be wrong with the PIA Northerns, or Habib Bank KP but they want total control.
 
Pakistan went with 6 teams for a few seasons and produced uncle spinners who topped the charts,,,but those same uncles and spinners were toothless against Australia at home!

Exactly, I have my doubts about the 4day game anyhow in the long run

Because if you look at our most recent finds they came centre stage through the national t20 and psl
Players like haris rauf , Abdullah shafique , naseem shah , haseebullah khan, nawaz in kpl etc

Since t20 is becoming the preferred format for most boards even at intl level

Most young players will highlight themselves in t20s.
 
this season will go ahead as is, and id be very surprised him the incumbent party are in power by the time the next season comes around.

fwiw if departmental cricket is really inevitable, just give it non first-class status and let em play all they want and use it like KPL to talent scout.
 
Systems aren't there to iron out technical flaws of players, they are there to create a competitive environment for the players to develop. And how will Habib Bank playing PIA help with technical flaws. The standard of cricket has been vastly superior to the tripe played on under prepared, poorly managed system that was there before. This is not to say that it doesn't have flaws, quite a few infact.

How have the standards gone up when the top bowlers are nauman ali , sajid khan and sohail khan . Although sohail khan has talent and is a good bowler but is now to old.

I think only shahnawaz had a one decent year and after that he never played for sindh because he was in the pakistan squad but hardly got any chances because babar made sure his mate hasan ali kept playing and continously underperform and then the presser hasan ali is good he is a matchwinner bla bla it took raja 2 yrs to finally kick him out of the white ball format .
 
How have the standards gone up when the top bowlers are nauman ali , sajid khan and sohail khan . Although sohail khan has talent and is a good bowler but is now to old.

I think only shahnawaz had a one decent year and after that he never played for sindh because he was in the pakistan squad but hardly got any chances because babar made sure his mate hasan ali kept playing and continously underperform and then the presser hasan ali is good he is a matchwinner bla bla it took raja 2 yrs to finally kick him out of the white ball format .

Because they are the best spinners at this point in time on wickets that are flat. It's been great to see flat wickets compared to the awful, underprepared rubbish that has persisted over the last 20 years and has produced one good batsman in Babar.
I have watched many of the games and the standard is way higher and if the system beds then it will improve further. Whatever happened to Sadaf and other 80 mph giants of the domestic game and remember he wasn't in isolation.
And the last point is about selection which is a separate issue. You seem to be conflating many different things.
 
this season will go ahead as is, and id be very surprised him the incumbent party are in power by the time the next season comes around.

fwiw if departmental cricket is really inevitable, just give it non first-class status and let em play all they want and use it like KPL to talent scout.

I explained earlier this is about power. They could all sponsor teams and have the teams renamed like PIA Northerns etc.
 
Exactly, I have my doubts about the 4day game anyhow in the long run

Because if you look at our most recent finds they came centre stage through the national t20 and psl
Players like haris rauf , Abdullah shafique , naseem shah , haseebullah khan, nawaz in kpl etc

Since t20 is becoming the preferred format for most boards even at intl level

Most young players will highlight themselves in t20s.

Abdullah Shafiq had an amazing season in the longer formats before he had made his name his T20 name.
 
PCB should have announced it rather than the PM who definitely has much more important things to run.

If departmental teams means better pays and better facilities for the players then I'm all for it. IK has been out of touch with cricket world for over 20 years now.

As per my knowledge, regional boards have much more politics involved than in departmental cricket although I may be wrong.

One thing that needs to happen before all the regional and departmental cricket stuff is the improvement in the quality of pitches and balls otherwise we'll soon run out of both batters and bowlers.
 
PCB should have announced it rather than the PM who definitely has much more important things to run.

If departmental teams means better pays and better facilities for the players then I'm all for it. IK has been out of touch with cricket world for over 20 years now.

As per my knowledge, regional boards have much more politics involved than in departmental cricket although I may be wrong.

One thing that needs to happen before all the regional and departmental cricket stuff is the improvement in the quality of pitches and balls otherwise we'll soon run out of both batters and bowlers.

How will it mean better facilities? They don't even own their own grounds. And we have been there before and it was Chaotic, just speak to the players. They only liked it because it gave them security
 
Ridiculous, and unbelievable! Only in Pakistan would they mess around with a new system in place just because of political shifts. Hafeez and Kamran are happy, of course. Just no stability.
 
Shafique made his intl debut in t20

Like I said future talent will be more highlighted in t20s like national t20 and psl or kpl ,

Fc cricket is already in doldrums its just not pakistan even the English 4 day county format is declining in quality
 
Shafique made his intl debut in t20

Like I said future talent will be more highlighted in t20s like national t20 and psl or kpl ,

Fc cricket is already in doldrums its just not pakistan even the English 4 day county format is declining in quality

The only thing I read here is a hell of a lot of nonsense.
You set the bar extremely low
 
The only thing I read here is a hell of a lot of nonsense.
You set the bar extremely low

Fc cricket is finished even kp has been critical of the country cricket .

The future is t20s and these franchise tournaments you see , the next generation of cricket viewers etc

Wake up and smell the coffee
 
Fc cricket is finished even kp has been critical of the country cricket .

The future is t20s and these franchise tournaments you see , the next generation of cricket viewers etc

Wake up and smell the coffee

I think the difference is that I drink proper coffee and you're clearly stuck on instant
 
From what I have seen over the last two or three seasons, Pakistan barely has the talent to fill up six domestic teams with quality players who can go on to perform at the international level.

At least the Akmal brothers can have some cushy jobs now leaching off of departments like PIA, Railway, & Pakistan post (departments that claim to make massive losses because of overstaffing and bad management).

Win-win I guess for everyone.
 
I am sure he played 2nd teams and scored 3 100s before he was chosen. They may not count as FC games, but they are list A.

2nd Eleven games are not regarded as FC games for a reason. Just like grade 2 cricket isn't FC.

Abdullah Shafique was a fast tracked selection just like Shaheen. From what I know Abdullah has played a lot of club cricket though.
 
2nd Eleven games are not regarded as FC games for a reason. Just like grade 2 cricket isn't FC.

Abdullah Shafique was a fast tracked selection just like Shaheen. From what I know Abdullah has played a lot of club cricket though.

Precisely why departmental cricket has failed.
It's pathetic and I'm glad you agree
 
How will it mean better facilities? They don't even own their own grounds. And we have been there before and it was Chaotic, just speak to the players. They only liked it because it gave them security

Think they have a larger bag from which they spend on players. Regional boards/associations don't have that much money. Yasir Arafat praised Sui Southern for bringing professionalism to their team by hiring qualified coaches as per him. They had also brought a trainer from Australia and had hired a professional nutritionist something unheard of in Pak domestic.

I have seen the grounds where FC cricket is played tbh atleast in Islamabad and Rwp. The grounds are more like parks. Diamond cricket club is a very tiny ground. A 6 would send the ball into a nearby stream of waste that literally starts 5 10 meters after the fence.

The FC matches are usually scheduled in one city for one block probably to cut the costs of travelling. Afterwards they move into another city. And honestly speaking neither under the regional system nor under the departmental system is going to solve that. So the 4 games that i would go to see back 4-5 years ago in each ground, that was pretty much a joke as far as grounds are concerned. Like I said they are more like parks.

Even the stadia that are owned by regional cricket which you pointed to don't host more than one game at a time 4 fc/second XI(under both systems) matches are going on, how can one really expect the cricket to get better. The problem is rooted much deeper than simply departmental/regional thing.

In a country where unemployment and economy is at its worst, I think cricketers should have financial security.
 
Quality over quantity or quantity over quality.

It seems Pakistan can't just get it right.
 
Precisely why departmental cricket has failed.
It's pathetic and I'm glad you agree

Bro I have mixed feelings about it. The problem is deep rooted that simply departmental or regional system isn't going to improve it.

I would just like the cricketers to have some financial security at a time where poverty and unemployment is at its worst.
 
Precisely why departmental cricket has failed.
It's pathetic and I'm glad you agree

Abdullah shafique never played departmental cricket .

He came through his local sialkot regional club at u16s.

Most batting talent that has recently come through are players who have relatives I.e current players or ex players since they have access to coaching and cricketing relatives who helped them .

This ik australian system produced no good batsmen any batsmen that came through was highlighted when they played national t20 or psl.

Abdullah shafique was only noted when he played national t20 Cup and got fast tracked into intl team
And even then his uncle connection got him into the national t20 central punjab team, imagine players who have no connections.


That's why departments are there for the swamp it is you will always have chance to unearth someone which the Australian ik system won't and was evident because it is psl which has been unearthing the talent in last few yrs and the national t20.

The only thing then qea has done is produce two middle aged spinners , and one batsmen called abid ali who turned out to be unfit and suffering from heart disease in australian system these players would have been retired and put out to pasture not handed intl caps.
 
PIA,Railways and many other state enterprises owned companies are under huge debt due to mismanagement and too many employees so how can they afford to have cricketers on their payroll who do nothing for these enterprises?.
 
PCB has failed to find sponsors for the regional teams. They are struggling to find sponsors for the PJL. Even the PSL is badly under valued with regards to the eye balls it attracts.

Sadly the attitude of the Pakistani business community is seriously poor in comparison to the Indian Business Community and the Western economies who leave no stone unturned when it comes to sponsoring teams and their athletes.
 
Abdullah shafique never played departmental cricket .

He came through his local sialkot regional club at u16s.

Most batting talent that has recently come through are players who have relatives I.e current players or ex players since they have access to coaching and cricketing relatives who helped them .

This ik australian system produced no good batsmen any batsmen that came through was highlighted when they played national t20 or psl.

Abdullah shafique was only noted when he played national t20 Cup and got fast tracked into intl team
And even then his uncle connection got him into the national t20 central punjab team, imagine players who have no connections.


That's why departments are there for the swamp it is you will always have chance to unearth someone which the Australian ik system won't and was evident because it is psl which has been unearthing the talent in last few yrs and the national t20.

The only thing then qea has done is produce two middle aged spinners , and one batsmen called abid ali who turned out to be unfit and suffering from heart disease in australian system these players would have been retired and put out to pasture not handed intl caps.

How many years has regional cricket been going on for?
 
Bro I have mixed feelings about it. The problem is deep rooted that simply departmental or regional system isn't going to improve it.

I would just like the cricketers to have some financial security at a time where poverty and unemployment is at its worst.

Nothing was every going to be a quick fix.
PTI/IK weren't going do miracles in 5 years and the cricket structure in Pakistan wasn't going to change and delivery quality players in a few years either.

It was a process and needed to time to develop.
 
The thing is the new setup didn't do nothing it just took the crap departmental system of sifarish and connections and put the same rubbish players into 6 teams garbage like imran butt and abid ali from departmental cricket into the new setup
So there was no radical change what the new setup did was limit opportunities for youngsters. Like zeeshan zameer couldn't get a game for sindh because likes of tabish khan were still playing and you had sami aslam migrate
 
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It's good news for other sports but a step backwards for our cricket. Wish the PCB was a true autonomous body not run on government whims. That way we can have true long term stability in cricket.
 
Good news departmental cricket produced us players because you had many teams and unknown fringe players and genuine talent could get games.

The only thing that needs improving is intl standard pitches , better coaches and intl standard kookaburra balls.

Departments should never have been abolished most players were against this

It was just a silly fantasy by imran khan that our top wicket taking bowlers in last few yrs ended up being 2 middle aged spinners called nauman and sajid , his Australian system failed it was never gonna work.

Psl has nothing to do with ik because it's success and foundation lies with sethi it's also another tournament where franchises can unearth talent .

lol Yepp broken rotten systems over decades need 3 years to be fixed…you are the one living in fantasy
 
Great decision. Thank god department is back..

SNGPL made a great team and Imran had destroyed it. Would love to see SNGPL back to action.

Many cricketers will be getting their jobs back hopefully by this.
 
Nothing was every going to be a quick fix.
PTI/IK weren't going do miracles in 5 years and the cricket structure in Pakistan wasn't going to change and delivery quality players in a few years either.

It was a process and needed to time to develop.

Like I said changing the departmental and regional cricket is not a fix for our cricket problems. That is simply a superficial change. Just like appointing a big name as head coach and expecting the team's fortunes to change.

Regional cricket wasn't going to help the cricket when they are being held in sub standard grounds. The grass root cricket is full of faults. School cricket doesn't exist. Switching from departmental to regional cricket wasn't a long term solution.
 
As I understand its revival of departmental sports as a whole, not domestic cricket in particular revolving around departments again. Unless patron and chief specifically ask to demolish current structure, departments can co exist as a grade II competition in off season that is if they revive their cricket teams.

Also not to forget departmental cricket when abolished quite a few departments were already taking their teams out and put their marketing budgets in PSL and other cricket activities. So just announcing departments are back wont mean most of them other than Govt owned ones will.

If it opens more pathways towards the main domestic regions which are currently present it shouldn’t be an issue as I believe current structure should be carried on with departments being another pathway to top level domestic cricket and acting as talent feeder.
 
Reviving department cricket is a great news.


Never been fan of 6 teams format. Pakistan is a corrupt country with or without Imran Khan, limiting opportunities is a bad idea where there is rampant corrupt and biased selection.


This system can only work in Australia. I don't agree with 16 teams in the system but 10 FC teams is needed for more youngsters to be given a chance.
 
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These departments don't really invest a lot. HBL was spending $500,000 a year on their departmental cricket team before they decided to shut down their team for good, IPL players are getting $3 million a season.
 
India also has Railways and Services playing Ranji and other tournaments but they arent strong and very few graduate to the next level.
 
As I understand its revival of departmental sports as a whole, not domestic cricket in particular revolving around departments again. Unless patron and chief specifically ask to demolish current structure, departments can co exist as a grade II competition in off season that is if they revive their cricket teams.

Also not to forget departmental cricket when abolished quite a few departments were already taking their teams out and put their marketing budgets in PSL and other cricket activities. So just announcing departments are back wont mean most of them other than Govt owned ones will.

If it opens more pathways towards the main domestic regions which are currently present it shouldn’t be an issue as I believe current structure should be carried on with departments being another pathway to top level domestic cricket and acting as talent feeder.

Very interesting but Ramiz not towing the line could lead to his dismissal, also the Kami types are assuming that this is the case....
 
Great decision. Thank god department is back..

SNGPL made a great team and Imran had destroyed it. Would love to see SNGPL back to action.

Many cricketers will be getting their jobs back hopefully by this.

What in your view is the timeline for this? What happens when GEs take place and Sharifs have no say in the matter and the new Gov rolls back this decision.

This decision is eye-candy. There is no way to implement this in the short term
 
It was never a quality over quantity thing because we were selecting experienced uncles in the name the name of quality any ways , atleast this way there will be a bigger pool of players who we can identify and nurture , has there been a merit selection on those 6 teams we would extract better results.
 
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My understanding was that the PCB had told the departments that they were welcome to play their departmental ODI, T20s and 3 day competition but the matches would not have first class status.
 
My understanding was that the PCB had told the departments that they were welcome to play their departmental ODI, T20s and 3 day competition but the matches would not have first class status.

Yes, wont mind that at all. Players will get their pays from department, 2nd tier players, younger players and other will get more opportunities to grow their game and departmental FC cricket could be a feeder as well to the already in place regional setup.

PCB operated 6 teams (In future maybe couple of more) structure should remain as PCB has control over this structure unlike departmental cricket where PCB has no say in departmental selections and departments don't have to think about what national team needs rather what helps them win which is not always aligned with the PCB and national team interests.

A window in off season where cricket is possible can be given, where departments can play cricket and at least some matches can be televised as well.
 
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Yes, wont mind that at all. Players will get their pays from department, 2nd tier players, younger players and other will get more opportunities to grow their game and departmental FC cricket could be a feeder as well to the already in place regional setup.

PCB operated 6 teams (In future maybe couple of more) structure should remain as PCB has control over this structure unlike departmental cricket where PCB has no say in departmental selections and departments don't have to think about what national team needs rather what helps them win which is not always aligned with the PCB and national team interests.

A window in off season where cricket is possible can be given, where departments can play cricket and at least some matches can be televised as well.

Good idea. But its more likely they will abolish 6+6 teams structure and replace them with 15-20 teams.
 
Utterly atrocious decision and a hundred steps back if this is implemented in cricket.
 
Utterly atrocious decision and a hundred steps back if this is implemented in cricket.

100 steps back?

Our greatest ever Test batsman (quality wise) was discovered via department cricket.

You can literally make two teams in all of Pakistan instead of 6 and there will be a lack of quality right now.

You are way better off having more sides and hopefully unearthing hidden gems. Pakistan’s talent bank is in the streets, gullies and nooks/corners. Kids, teenagers who cannot afford or do not have the facilities to train properly and become proper cricketers.

Departments provide more opportunities and playing positions to be taken up by the next Amir or Mohammad Yousuf hopefully
 
100 steps back?

Our greatest ever Test batsman (quality wise) was discovered via department cricket.

You can literally make two teams in all of Pakistan instead of 6 and there will be a lack of quality right now.

You are way better off having more sides and hopefully unearthing hidden gems. Pakistan’s talent bank is in the streets, gullies and nooks/corners. Kids, teenagers who cannot afford or do not have the facilities to train properly and become proper cricketers.

Departments provide more opportunities and playing positions to be taken up by the next Amir or Mohammad Yousuf hopefully

To be honest We can only make 4 teams if it based on talents. Too many teams mean they will be filled with uncles, big brothers and expired players. Its like playing gully cricket where uncles always balls and bat first (sometimes they bat 2nd/3rd times as a excuse) and leave young players before the end of the play. Very unprofessional attitude.
 
100 steps back?

Our greatest ever Test batsman (quality wise) was discovered via department cricket.

You can literally make two teams in all of Pakistan instead of 6 and there will be a lack of quality right now.

You are way better off having more sides and hopefully unearthing hidden gems. Pakistan’s talent bank is in the streets, gullies and nooks/corners. Kids, teenagers who cannot afford or do not have the facilities to train properly and become proper cricketers.

Departments provide more opportunities and playing positions to be taken up by the next Amir or Mohammad Yousuf hopefully


Probably more like 1000 steps back actually. Department cricket serves no purpose other than for mediocre sifarishis to get jobs doing nothing. That is not the purpose of the PCB. Quality of FC cricket will be hugely diluted with 10,15+ teams and any meaning that was building in our FC cricket with proper pathways to the top will be destroyed.

It is disingenuous to suggest players would not have been discovered through regional or provincial cricket with proper pathways.

Terrible decision.
 
If Kamran Akmal who should have been discarded in 2010 is thanking the Prime Minister from the bottom of his heart for being facilitated to play another 2-3 years in 2022, you know things are terrible.
 
If Kamran Akmal who should have been discarded in 2010 is thanking the Prime Minister from the bottom of his heart for being facilitated to play another 2-3 years in 2022, you know things are terrible.

Both PM and Kamran are corrupt and have similar mentality. Both are leeches. Don't expect anything better from PM to start with. This guy even doesn't know abc of cricket but changed the system to suite his types of people to leeches.
 
Probably more like 1000 steps back actually. Department cricket serves no purpose other than for mediocre sifarishis to get jobs doing nothing. That is not the purpose of the PCB. Quality of FC cricket will be hugely diluted with 10,15+ teams and any meaning that was building in our FC cricket with proper pathways to the top will be destroyed.

It is disingenuous to suggest players would not have been discovered through regional or provincial cricket with proper pathways.

Terrible decision.

Exactly!! Now Kamran, Hafeez, Malik, Azhar will be there for another 10-20 years since performance doesn't matter.
 
100 steps back?

Our greatest ever Test batsman (quality wise) was discovered via department cricket.

You can literally make two teams in all of Pakistan instead of 6 and there will be a lack of quality right now.

You are way better off having more sides and hopefully unearthing hidden gems. Pakistan’s talent bank is in the streets, gullies and nooks/corners. Kids, teenagers who cannot afford or do not have the facilities to train properly and become proper cricketers.

Departments provide more opportunities and playing positions to be taken up by the next Amir or Mohammad Yousuf hopefully
The kids from streets have no chance of playing for any departmental team.The players will be selected through nepotism or sifarash.Most of state companies are under huge debt,they don’t make any profit so why are they going to pay money to cricketers who are doing nothing for the company.
 
The kids from streets have no chance of playing for any departmental team.The players will be selected through nepotism or sifarash.Most of state companies are under huge debt,they don’t make any profit so why are they going to pay money to cricketers who are doing nothing for the company.

This is the point that fans of Departmental Cricket fail to understand.

The Departmental System just breeds nepotism and corruption and you have 100 useless players in this system as opposed to 20 which then provides more competition and the worthy players then rise up and the hangers on get rinsed.

Doesn't happen overnight but there really is nothing to gain by paying useless and aging cricketers to turn out week in snd week out.
 
The problem is that so many players who should be nowhere near domestic cricket hang around for a few years past their sell by date as they get jobs with the departments.
 
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