Politicized Bollywood | Bal Thackeray Biopic & 'The Accidental Prime Minister' just before elections

[Bhaijaan]

Politicized Bollywood | Bal Thackeray Biopic & 'The Accidental Prime Minister' just before elections

What a sad state of affairs.

Never been a fan of Bollywood but last few years when regional movie industries have been catching up and giving great films, the Bollywood seems to have hit rock bottom.

Just when elections are a few months away you have a film that glorifies Bal Thackeray and his ideology of hate.

and then you have open BJP loyalist Anupam Kher ridiculing widowed Sonia Gandhi and honourable ex PM Manmohan Singh with his new release the accidental prime minister,

Bollywood really sucks.

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[hafeezrocks]

Lol @ discussion over resumption of Cricket with Miandad at 2.30 .

 

[JaDed]

Elections are pretty far..year around there are elections or some sort, everyone should stop playing victim,it's a movie ..

 

[Bhaijaan]

Lol @ discussion over resumption of Cricket with Miandad at 2.30 .

That was quite cringe worthy.

I also didn't like the way they mocked Javed Miandad's funny voice.

 

[Lonewarrior]

not a fan of ex-indian PM. but why are they showing him in disrespecting way. It didnt look good tbh. he wasnt a warmonger, so its ok to disrespect him ?

 

[Bhaijaan]

not a fan of ex-indian PM. but why are they showing him in disrespecting way. It didnt look good tbh. he wasnt a warmonger, so its ok to disrespect him ?

Because Mr Singh belongs to Congress and BJP’s only ticket to power is by instigating public sentiments against it.

Anupam Kher also worked on a movie to tarnish Indira Gandhi’s image in 2017.

All big flops though just like BJP which has recently been receiving a lot of drubbing by a resurgent Congress.

Panic mode is on.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Lol at Bollywood supporting hate politics against North Indian immigrants by Marathi politicians. What a disgusting industry it is. Not that I expected any better but never imagined such stuff would be in a movie one day in a way that glorifies the Thackerays instead of shaming them for it.

 

[TM Riddle]

Lol at Bollywood supporting hate politics against North Indian immigrants by Marathi politicians. What a disgusting industry it is. Not that I expected any better but never imagined such stuff would be in a movie one day in a way that glorifies the Thackerays instead of shaming them for it.

Bhai is DP k sath ye post kafi awkward lag rahi hai.

 

[GBK_Fan]

Disappointed to see Nawazuddin playing Thackeray. They really should have a front liner playing the great man.

No comments on the weasel who became the pm

 

[aukhan]

Altaf Hussain of Mumbai.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Lol at Bollywood supporting hate politics against North Indian immigrants by Marathi politicians. What a disgusting industry it is. Not that I expected any better but never imagined such stuff would be in a movie one day in a way that glorifies the Thackerays instead of shaming them for it.

I always thought Bollywood was dominated by north Indians. How would the situation have arisen where they are supporting Marathi evangelists against their own?

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

I thought the Thackerey movie trailer was very well made.

I will definitely be checking out that movie.

Hopefully they keep it raw and stay true to what actually happened.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Just saw Accidental PM trailer.

)

What an embarrassment. Feels like a parody movie.

And why is Anupam Kher overdoing Manmohan Singh ji's gentle mannerism.

So irritating lol.

Akshay Khanna looks like he will steal the show.

 

[CricketCartoons]

bollywood was always politicized. gandhian philosophy in 40s to nehruvian socialism during 50s, where capitalism was evil and india belonged to mazdoor and kisaan ( at least on the screen ), to fake secularism (amar akbar anthony) in 70s, to anarchism in 80s and attacking indian family values in 90s, when romantic songs encouraged kids to elope, and the love jihad theme of late 90s and noughties, bollywood is only being true to its chameleon character by pushing the agenda of the current dispensation. nothing new.

 

[TM Riddle]

I thought the Thackerey movie trailer was very well made.

I will definitely be checking out that movie.

Hopefully they keep it raw and stay true to what actually happened.

Bhai there was a dialogue in the trailer which seems to have been removed after the controversy it generated.
It was along the lines of "uthao lungi baja do pungi". Basically khuleaam advocating his racist views about South Indians.
Siddharth even tweeted his displeasure about it.

 

[enkidu_]

India will keep on getting more Hindu nationalist, it’s nearly sociological determinism, the secular meme could last as long as the Hindu middle class slept, but since the end of Nehruvian socialism/advent of economic liberalism a conservative middle class was bound to announce itself and the ideological alignment of the so-called artists is just a matter of time as Klaus Mann has shown in his Mephisto, the post-Khan era will only have the Anupam Khers, keeping in mind that the Khans not only accompanied India’s economic liberalism (romantism and heroic individualism against the traditional authorities like the family is a soft image of the all conquering liberalism), but also symbolised Indian secularism in its last avatar.

 

[JaDed]

Bhai there was a dialogue in the trailer which seems to have been removed after the controversy it generated.
It was along the lines of "uthao lungi baja do pungi". Basically khuleaam advocating his racist views about South Indians.
Siddharth even tweeted his displeasure about it.

Wasn't pungi bajao lungi hatao the slogan of Thackeray?

 

[JaDed]

India will keep on getting more Hindu nationalist, it’s nearly sociological determinism, the secular meme could last as long as the Hindu middle class slept, but since the end of Nehruvian socialism/advent of economic liberalism a conservative middle class was bound to announce itself and the ideological alignment of the so-called artists is just a matter of time as Klaus Mann has shown in his Mephisto, the post-Khan era will only have the Anupam Khers, keeping in mind that the Khans not only accompanied India’s economic liberalism (romantism and heroic individualism against the traditional authorities like the family is a soft image of the all conquering liberalism), but also symbolised Indian secularism in its last avatar.

Lol dream on ..

 

[TM Riddle]

Wasn't pungi bajao lungi hatao the slogan of Thackeray?

Yep.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Bhai there was a dialogue in the trailer which seems to have been removed after the controversy it generated.

It was along the lines of "uthao lungi baja do pungi". Basically khuleaam advocating his racist views about South Indians.
Siddharth even tweeted his displeasure about it.

I would prefer if the movie has those dialogues.

Its a movie about Thackerey and i wanna see it present him for what he was.

I get the larger point made by various posters here but the trailer of this movie has piqued my interest.

 

[MP2011]

Just saw Accidental PM trailer.

)

What an embarrassment. Feels like a parody movie.

And why is Anupam Kher overdoing Manmohan Singh ji's gentle mannerism.

So irritating lol.

Akshay Khanna looks like he will steal the show.

Kher says that this movie should be India's nomination for Academy awards due to his performance. What a boot licking clown this man is!

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Kher says that this movie should be India's nomination for Academy awards due to his performance. What a boot licking clown this man is!

Haha. Let's see if he has even acted well.

Lots of people are commenting on how he has overdone Manmohan Singh's mannerism.

Upon multiple viewing, I think this is a well shot trailer if we ignore the clownish casting of Sonia Gandhi and Anupam Kher's antics. But then it's hard to ignore it in the movie.

This movie will be caricaturish I feel.

 

[Varun]

The Thackeray clan are serial election losers.

Doubt a movie will make a difference.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

All the people who are accusing BJP here, the movie is based on the book written by Mr. Barui in 2014. The fact that Congress never objected to the book means they agree with everything written there. So no harm if they are making a movie on it. Also, people of this nation need to know the truth about MMS government and how he was used as a puppet by Soniya Gandhi. I have read that book and it categorically describe all the scams/corruptions that MMS was unhappy about but couldnt take action because Mrs Gandhi was against it. That book also explains, how Soniya wanted MMS to become the PM for the party and not the nation. If the movie shows everything that is on the book, lord saves congress. So I can understand their frustration.

Now lets talk about double standards of these so called seculars. Shashi Tharoor launched a book on Modi "The paradoxical Prime minister" last month. No one called it as a political mileage or an oppurtunistic attempt just before elections. But a book on Congress and all the so called seculars are getting tensed.

And to those fools who is saying "Chowkidaar Chor hai", I can only laugh at them. Rahul Gandhi used that line before state elections to defame Modi in Rafaele deal. Supreme court of the country passed the judgement that there were no money laundering while buying those Rafaele jets. Even French PM said RaGa was lying about Rafaele in Indian Parliament. So this 'Chowkidaar Chor hai' myth long busted.

People are fooling themselves if they believe a person who thinks BHEL produces mobile phones can become PM. My good wishes is with them...ummid pe duniya kayam hai

 

[Rana]

Anyone seen the trailer to a movie called Surgical strike?

Im not sure how bollywood thinks its ok to offend its Pakistani audience by releasing such hate movies.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Anyone seen the trailer to a movie called Surgical strike?

Im not sure how bollywood thinks its ok to offend its Pakistani audience by releasing such hate movies.

A country and industry which does not think twice before offending its own 30 million muslim population, how could you expect them to not offend Pakistan the officially designated enemy nation.

 

[Rana]

A country and industry which does not think twice before offending its own 30 million muslim population, how could you expect them to not offend Pakistan the officially designated enemy nation.

Even that movie with Alia bhatt playing an indian spy. The movie basically is celebrating the deceit of an Indian officer to a loving and warm family in Pakistan. Yet the villain is the warm, respectful family as they are Pakistan military.

This is why I am glad that Pakistanis usually rise above this nonsense and don't respond like for like. Otherwise Im sure the Pakistani industry can tap into stories of its heroics in wars against India or actions that have caused its enemy severe harm on the border or during wars. Indian movie industry makes it seem that the 'other' really is the evil party.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Even that movie with Alia bhatt playing an indian spy. The movie basically is celebrating the deceit of an Indian officer to a loving and warm family in Pakistan. Yet the villain is the warm, respectful family as they are Pakistan military.

I find it offensive that the pakistani family was shown as warm and loving, even as villains. yet another subliminal propaganda from pro pakistan bollywood.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

A country and industry which does not think twice before offending its own 30 million muslim population, how could you expect them to not offend Pakistan the officially designated enemy nation.

Which movie offend India's muslim population? Can you name one pls?
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[Gabbar Singh]

Not sure why people are whining at the filmmakers when the script has essentially been written by Sanjaya Baru who was a Manmohan Singh loyalist. The book which the film is based on is, on the whole, pro Manmohan Singh not anti him.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Even that movie with Alia bhatt playing an indian spy. The movie basically is celebrating the deceit of an Indian officer to a loving and warm family in Pakistan. Yet the villain is the warm, respectful family as they are Pakistan military.

This is why I am glad that Pakistanis usually rise above this nonsense and don't respond like for like. Otherwise Im sure the Pakistani industry can tap into stories of its heroics in wars against India or actions that have caused its enemy severe harm on the border or during wars. Indian movie industry makes it seem that the 'other' really is the evil party.

Resident Pakistanis are generally a lot more magnanimous in nature compared to Indians.

NRI Indians and Pakistanis are both weird, confused, hateful and ignorant.

I love resident Pakistanis. They are amazing joyous people. I think its just the poor schooling, Pak army sponsored propaganda that dumbs them down otherwise they are amazing people.

 

[enkidu_]

Anyone seen the trailer to a movie called Surgical strike?

Im not sure how bollywood thinks its ok to offend its Pakistani audience by releasing such hate movies.

Pak audiences are the main culprits, Bollywood just cather to its natural audience, Pak watching B-wood would be like Jews applauding to Leni Riefenstahl and other cinematic works commissioned or approved by Goebbels.

 

[Swashbuckler]

Anyone seen the trailer to a movie called Surgical strike?

Im not sure how bollywood thinks its ok to offend its Pakistani audience by releasing such hate movies.

Sadly some people (Bollywood, news channels, celebs, cricketers, activists, businessmen) want to gain favors by appealing to the ideology of the ruling party. Even I cringe at these things, I assure you that not all Indians are like that and the irrational anti-Pakistan sentiment is localized in some (vast I admit) regions of India and has become more intense since 2014 general elections.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Pak audiences are the main culprits, Bollywood just cather to its natural audience, Pak watching B-wood would be like Jews applauding to Leni Riefenstahl and other cinematic works commissioned or approved by Goebbels.

I wonder if Mamoon has booked his ticket for the Thackeray film?

 

[Rana]

Pak audiences are the main culprits, Bollywood just cather to its natural audience, Pak watching B-wood would be like Jews applauding to Leni Riefenstahl and other cinematic works commissioned or approved by Goebbels.

Thats not necessarily true. We all know that the A list stars have always or usually taken a diplomatic stance and the best directors such as Karan Johar has always admired Pakistani talent. Yash Raj films productions more often than not have done their part to engage with the Pakistani/Muslim community across the globe. So I dont agree with Pakistanis boycotting a chance to be entertained by Indian cinema especially when its own industry cannot produce like for like quality entertainment.

Surgical strike is completely unneccesary, its adding fuel to a fire that really isnt required.

This movie called Surgical strike is right up there as the worst of its kind in anti Pakistan sentiments and whats sad about this is that

 

[enkidu_]

Thats not necessarily true. We all know that the A list stars have always or usually taken a diplomatic stance and the best directors such as Karan Johar has always admired Pakistani talent. Yash Raj films productions more often than not have done their part to engage with the Pakistani/Muslim community across the globe. So I dont agree with Pakistanis boycotting a chance to be entertained by Indian cinema especially when its own industry cannot produce like for like quality entertainment.

Surgical strike is completely unneccesary, its adding fuel to a fire that really isnt required.

This movie called Surgical strike is right up there as the worst of its kind in anti Pakistan sentiments and whats sad about this is that

The names you quoted are all Punjabi’s, more specifically belonging to a caste, the Khatri’s, which has roots in Pakistan, this « pro Pak » stance is mere nostalgia nothing ideological or deep. Ali Zafar did say Yash Chopra used to talk him in Lahori Punjabi dialect and offer him kheer but Chopra roots were in Lahore to begin with... you want some numbers ? These peoples (the Johars, the Kapoors, the Dhawans, the Kohlis, the Chopras, the Anands, etc) are 3-4 millions in a population of 1.3 billion, and not all are doves either. The more they’ll get replaced by other Hindu communities, the more the anti Pak sentiments will gain momentum, it’s a matter of time, because such are the popular sentiments.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The glorification of a hardline Hindutva like Thackeray can only entrench the Indian yearning for a more strident Hinduism, otherwise why make the film? It would be like Pakistani film producers releasing a movie about Lashkar e Taiba spokesmen.

Thackeray intrigues me, why the love and veneration for such a bigot? Even Sachin Tendulkar was a disciple.

 

[GBK_Fan]

Sadly some people (Bollywood, news channels, celebs, cricketers, activists, businessmen) want to gain favors by appealing to the ideology of the ruling party. Even I cringe at these things, I assure you that not all Indians are like that and the irrational anti-Pakistan sentiment is localized in some (vast I admit) regions of India and has become more intense since 2014 general elections.

So a movie on surgical strikes is about the ruling party? Do you feel the same about Kargil?

Also it’s really cringeworthy that South Indians like yourself play the north south divide even when it comes to war. So you have no empathy about the terror attacks faced by your countrymen up north because you never really had Chennai being bombed by ISI?

 

[GBK_Fan]

The glorification of a hardline Hindutva like Thackeray can only entrench the Indian yearning for a more strident Hinduism, otherwise why make the film? It would be like Pakistani film producers releasing a movie about Lashkar e Taiba spokesmen.

Thackeray intrigues me, why the love and veneration for such a bigot? Even Sachin Tendulkar was a disciple.

Thackeray was a bigot no doubt about it, but he was a much needed one in 1992. You see all these Bollywood movies romanticising gangsters from the 1980s and 90s, those gangsters suddenly turned Islamic during the Babri riots. A bigot like Thackeray helped large portions of Mumbai being burned to the ground by these gangsters. I was a kid back then and the number of stories any Mumbai native can share with you, will tell you why Thackeray is revered here.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Reading up some non-biased biopics of Thackeray, seems he was a big fan of Hitler and advocated treating India's Muslims in a similar manner to the Jews in Germany.

 

[Swashbuckler]

So a movie on surgical strikes is about the ruling party? Do you feel the same about Kargil?

Also it’s really cringeworthy that South Indians like yourself play the north south divide even when it comes to war. So you have no empathy about the terror attacks faced by your countrymen up north because you never really had Chennai being bombed by ISI?

No. I have no problem with war movies or those glorifying counter terror ops, surgical strikes whatever.

What I said about "some people trying to gain favors with ruling dispensation" holds true based on the fact that there was a communally inflammatory comment about 72 virgins in the trailer. It is blatant hate speech directed towards Muslims, something that has become a fashion since Sanghis got power.

Don't start the north-south nonsense with me and don't hide behind the cloak of nationalism/Indian Army. Judging by your posts you seem to be a Hindutva follower, I have no time for that ideology and thankfully neither does my state. I don't wish to engage with your kind, so it will be better if we can part on civil terms rather than allow the exchange to get nasty.

 

[GBK_Fan]

No. I have no problem with war movies or those glorifying counter terror ops, surgical strikes whatever.

What I said about "some people trying to gain favors with ruling dispensation" holds true based on the fact that there was a communally inflammatory comment about 72 virgins in the trailer. It is blatant hate speech directed towards Muslims, something that has become a fashion since Sanghis got power.

Don't start the north-south nonsense with me and don't hide behind the cloak of nationalism/Indian Army. Judging by your posts you seem to be a Hindutva follower, I have no time for that ideology and thankfully neither does my state. I don't wish to engage with your kind, so it will be better if we can part on civil terms rather than allow the exchange to get nasty.

Wow!! Your kind really?

First up am a Southie too and unlike you I do understand why certain regions of the country are more anti Pakistan than the rest. It does not take a lot to realise that people in Mumbai or up north will be more anti Pakistan than the rest. Anyway my assessment of you seems to be spot on and your intellectual bankruptcy needs no more highlighting. Good luck.

 

[Swashbuckler]

Reading up some non-biased biopics of Thackeray, seems he was a big fan of Hitler and advocated treating India's Muslims in a similar manner to the Jews in Germany.

Words can't express my disgust for this man, want to use strong language to describe him but this is a family forum.

His anti Muslim stance is well known (named in Srikrishna report for his role in inciting violence in the Bombay riots) but his hatred wasn't limited to them. His brand of politics was based on hatred of others and the enemy kept changing. On his orders his goons attacked South Indians in the 60s and 70s, mainly Tamils and it came to such a point that Tamils couldn't even converse in their mother tongue in public places because of safety reasons. He was also anti Bihar/UP, amidst the anti-North flames fanned by Shiv Sena when Sachin said that "he is Indian first and Maharashtrian later", that "Mumbai belongs to all of India", even he wasn't spared by the lunatic hate-monger. I think Sachin keeps mum on political reasons these days due to that episode with don Thackeray.

Worst part is he got a state funeral broadcast on national TV, his clout in Mumbai was scary. IMO that was one of the lowest of all lows in Indian politics and a massive capitulation by Congress (then ruling party in Maharashtra) to the rabid Hindutva elements.

 

[Swashbuckler]

Thackeray intrigues me, why the love and veneration for such a bigot? Even Sachin Tendulkar was a disciple.

Among the famous and high profile disciples, Fear !!!

In Bombay/Mumbai the Thackerays used to have lots of clout, they have it even now although in a much reduced scale. Bollywood celebs and cricketers based there are forced to pay obeisance to his family. Bal Thackeray and his followers/allies had hands in real estate, money laundering, contract killings, extortion business, protection racket etc. They also used to settle businesses outside the purview of law and had tentacles in the police, courts, bureaucracy, intelligence etc. Court cases drag on for years but these guys could do that in much shorter time via violence, intimidation, contacts etc, so they had a significant presence in Bollywood (eg to facilitate production deals, payment) and among the business houses and higher society in the city. Also as another poster said when the underworld was at its peak Thackeray was someone who could protect the high profile targets (mostly in the film industry), something even beyond the capability of police force.

Forget Sachin even Congress politicians, Ambani, Amitabh, Dilip Kumar, Sanjay Dutt (saved by Bal Thackeray in 1993) and the Khans are disciples of Thackeray and his family. Bal's nephew is as vitriolic as him but Aamir Khan is his close friend and invites him to all his screenings. It always helps when you have a don watching over you, and it is risky business going against such a person.

 

[CricketCartoons]

His anti Muslim stance is well known (named in Srikrishna report for his role in inciting violence in the Bombay riots) but his hatred wasn't limited to them. His brand of politics was based on hatred of others and the enemy kept changing. On his orders his goons attacked South Indians in the 60s and 70s, mainly Tamils and it came to such a point that Tamils couldn't even converse in their mother tongue in public places because of safety reasons. He was also anti Bihar/UP, amidst the anti-North flames fanned by Shiv Sena when Sachin said that "he is Indian first and Maharashtrian later", that "Mumbai belongs to all of India", even he wasn't spared by the lunatic hate-monger. I think Sachin keeps mum on political reasons these days due to that episode with don Thackeray.

What a beautiful example of national unity that a muslim from UP is paying respect to Balasaheb despite some haters and anti nationals accusing him of being anti UP and anti muslim. Respect for Nawazuddin. Hope it gets the national award, or dada saheb phalke award, it doesn't deserve anything less.

 

[gazza619]

Among the famous and high profile disciples, Fear !!!

In Bombay/Mumbai the Thackerays used to have lots of clout, they have it even now although in a much reduced scale. Bollywood celebs and cricketers based there are forced to pay obeisance to his family. Bal Thackeray and his followers/allies had hands in real estate, money laundering, contract killings, extortion business, protection racket etc. They also used to settle businesses outside the purview of law and had tentacles in the police, courts, bureaucracy, intelligence etc. Court cases drag on for years but these guys could do that in much shorter time via violence, intimidation, contacts etc, so they had a significant presence in Bollywood (eg to facilitate production deals, payment) and among the business houses and higher society in the city. Also as another poster said when the underworld was at its peak Thackeray was someone who could protect the high profile targets (mostly in the film industry), something even beyond the capability of police force.

Forget Sachin even Congress politicians, Ambani, Amitabh, Dilip Kumar, Sanjay Dutt (saved by Bal Thackeray in 1993) and the Khans are disciples of Thackeray and his family. Bal's nephew is as vitriolic as him but Aamir Khan is his close friend and invites him to all his screenings. It always helps when you have a don watching over you, and it is risky business going against such a person.

Interesting info. Such a shame that people are forced to shake hands with the criminals. I wonder why people like Thackray are allowed to get so powerful. I think we can also blame the parliamantary democratic system for this mess. Everybody is worried about their vote bank..and hence there is no such thing as right or wrong...

 

[Rafa]

Why South Indian Rajni cozying up with Thackeray ?

 

[Swashbuckler]

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Why South Indian Rajni cozying up with Thackeray ?

Rajini is a Marathi just like Thackeray, his real name is Shivaji Rao Gaekwad. He shifted to Tamil film industry only in his mid 20s.

And forget about him, anyone who is in Bal Thackeray's presence cozies up with him.

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He is of Mumbai.

 

[Rafa]

Rajini is a Marathi just like Thackeray, his real name is Shivaji Rao Gaekwad. He shifted to Tamil film industry only in his mid 20s.

And forget about him, anyone who is in Bal Thackeray's presence cozies up with him.

Samples:

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He is of Mumbai.

Interesting Facts.

 

[JaDed]

Sadly some people (Bollywood, news channels, celebs, cricketers, activists, businessmen) want to gain favors by appealing to the ideology of the ruling party. Even I cringe at these things, I assure you that not all Indians are like that and the irrational anti-Pakistan sentiment is localized in some (vast I admit) regions of India and has become more intense since 2014 general elections.

Pakistan makes such movies too so relax, Waar showed India in poor light, so it's ok countries always show other countries in poor light, Hollywood or Even all the world war movies to date have always shown Allies in good ight, the same Allies that colonized half the world !

 

[JaDed]

Steven Segal one is so surprising lol knew about others though,biggest irony was him praising Miandad.

 

[JaDed]

Interesting info. Such a shame that people are forced to shake hands with the criminals. I wonder why people like Thackray are allowed to get so powerful. I think we can also blame the parliamantary democratic system for this mess. Everybody is worried about their vote bank..and hence there is no such thing as right or wrong...

In any country anyone can become so powerful , are you saying the Democratic system of America doesn't produce shady leaders? Like look at the President right now!

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

In any country anyone can become so powerful , are you saying the Democratic system of America doesn't produce shady leaders? Like look at the President right now!

Trump is a businessman made good, he was never the leader of a militant religious organisation like Shiv Sena, neither did he make statements admiring Adolf Hitler's treatment of the Jews. Trump is an embarrassment to his country, but you can't really compare him with Thackeray.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Interesting info. Such a shame that people are forced to shake hands with the criminals. I wonder why people like Thackray are allowed to get so powerful. I think we can also blame the parliamantary democratic system for this mess. Everybody is worried about their vote bank..and hence there is no such thing as right or wrong...

It's their country, I suppose those film stars have to show obeisance to the Hindutva overlords and then they may be allowed to prosper even if Thackeray openly despised Muslims as a collective. That is the life of Muslims as a minority in India, they should probably be grateful for small mercies.

 

[JaDed]

It's their country, I suppose those film stars have to show obeisance to the Hindutva overlords and then they may be allowed to prosper even if Thackeray openly despised Muslims as a collective. That is the life of Muslims as a minority in India, they should probably be grateful for small mercies.

Yeah but what prompted Javed Miandad from the land of Mr.Jinnah to come and sit near Thackeray ,also notice how he sits down to him?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Yeah but what prompted Javed Miandad from the land of Mr.Jinnah to come and sit near Thackeray ,also notice how he sits down to him?

You seem to know more about this than me, so perhaps you can tell me. What did prompt Javed Miandad to sit down to Bal Thackeray? I thought Miandad was related through marriage to the Indian Muslim gangster Dawood Ibrahim? Why would Thackeray even invite such a rogue to his company?

 

[JaDed]

You seem to know more about this than me, so perhaps you can tell me. What did prompt Javed Miandad to sit down to Bal Thackeray? I thought Miandad was related through marriage to the Indian Muslim gangster Dawood Ibrahim? Why would Thackeray even invite such a rogue to his company?

I didn't make any assumptions about Thackeray you did and you made a phrase on Hindutva overlords , why is Miandad there is a question to you Mr.Rishwat , why is Bal Thackeray a Hindu overlord to famous Pakistani Muslim Cricketer and sitting below him.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

I didn't make any assumptions about Thackeray you did and you made a phrase on Hindutva overlords , why is Miandad there is a question to you Mr.Rishwat , why is Bal Thackeray a Hindu overlord to famous Pakistani Muslim Cricketer and sitting below him.

Tells you more about Thakray as a person.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I didn't make any assumptions about Thackeray you did and you made a phrase on Hindutva overlords , why is Miandad there is a question to you Mr.Rishwat , why is Bal Thackeray a Hindu overlord to famous Pakistani Muslim Cricketer and sitting below him.

I don't know bro. I am not a Pakistani cricketer, I am a Brit of Indian origin. So please enlighten us as to why Miandad was sitting below Bal Thackeray as per your assessment.

 

[JaDed]

I don't know bro. I am not a Pakistani cricketer, I am a Brit of Indian origin. So please enlighten us as to why Miandad was sitting below Bal Thackeray as per your assessment.

I have no assessment, you had one about Hindutva overlords, nice to know about your Indian origins and you hating India every bit.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I have no assessment, you had one about Hindutva overlords, nice to know about your Indian origins and you hating India every bit.

Thanks bro, indeed I am of Indian origin, although the Pakistani argument is that India never existed until after the Brits gave it the name but I feel we can use it for ourselves.

So then as to your assertion, now that you have made it, please share your theory as to why Miandad the Pakistani cricketer is sitting below overlord Bal Thackeray. What do you think this signifies?

 

[gazza619]

Thanks bro, indeed I am of Indian origin, although the Pakistani argument is that India never existed until after the Brits gave it the name but I feel we can use it for ourselves.

So then as to your assertion, now that you have made it, please share your theory as to why Miandad the Pakistani cricketer is sitting below overlord Bal Thackeray. What do you think this signifies?

I am not supporting Miandad here, I mean he already has a controversial family links to Dawood Ibrahim.

But I am thinking if Thackray invited Miandad and then when they were sat in the living room, Thackray’s seat was higher then the other guests, what do you do in this situation?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I am not supporting Miandad here, I mean he already has a controversial family links to Dawood Ibrahim.

But I am thinking if Thackray invited Miandad and then when they were sat in the living room, Thackray’s seat was higher then the other guests, what do you do in this situation?

Need to address that question to Jaded as he is the one who thinks it holds special significance.

 

[shaz619]

They might get bad press for movies like the one in OP but Bajrangi Bhaijaan was the polar opposite so there is good and bad everywhere

 

[JaDed]

Thanks bro, indeed I am of Indian origin, although the Pakistani argument is that India never existed until after the Brits gave it the name but I feel we can use it for ourselves.

So then as to your assertion, now that you have made it, please share your theory as to why Miandad the Pakistani cricketer is sitting below overlord Bal Thackeray. What do you think this signifies?

I have no idea what it signifies, in the case you defined I guess Pakistani Muslim have to show respect too , the premise is that if Pakistan finally has independence then why is Miandad there to show his obeisance to these overlords.

And lets be clear here you are the one that has put this "assertion" of Hindutvaoverlords here and how Muslims in India have to show them respect so why is Miandad there now?

So kindly remember the question was based on your logic for Indian Muslims, and just turning tables around and talking about Miandad here so plz say.

 

[enkidu_]

They might get bad press for movies like the one in OP but Bajrangi Bhaijaan was the polar opposite so there is good and bad everywhere

Again you peoples should stop idealizing based on ethnic outliers. BB’s director and lead actor are both of paternal Pashtun descent, an ethnic group found into the tens of millions in PK and few thousands in India ; obvously these peoples will have to show PK in relatively good terms based on racial allegiance if anything. Remember when SRK said in front of Afridi and co he’s happy when PK wins because it was like his father team winning, somethings Indian media back then highlighted in negative terms.

Yet Pashtuns are not even 0.1% of India’s population and the other ethnic group summoned to showcase Bollywood’s « peaceful » nature, Punjabi-Khatris (Kapoor, Malhotra, Dhawan, Kohli, Chopra, ...type of names), are barely 0.5% of India’s population ; in other words, the peoples you all fetishise as doves don’t represent 99% of Hindus, the towering majority following the Modi-Doval doctrine on PK (international isolation, sponsoring ethnic sub-nationalism, hydro-warfare, etc).

Worse than not recognising your enemy is to consider him a well wisher.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I have no idea what it signifies, in the case you defined I guess Pakistani Muslim have to show respect too , the premise is that if Pakistan finally has independence then why is Miandad there to show his obeisance to these overlords.

And lets be clear here you are the one that has put this "assertion" of Hindutvaoverlords here and how Muslims in India have to show them respect so why is Miandad there now?

So kindly remember the question was based on your logic for Indian Muslims, and just turning tables around and talking about Miandad here so plz say.

My logic for Indian Muslims was as a collective group, you introduced a single example of a Pakistani as a counterpoint. I think that is not comparable so only confuses the issue. I am not the only one who is describing Thackeray as a Hindutva overlord by the way, he is commonly referred to in similar fashion based on his activity and rank in Mumbai at the time.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Looks like it won't stop. Propaganda machinery in full flow! Presenting to you the latest gift from Bollywood - Narendra Modi Biopic! )




<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">जय हिन्द. జై హింద్. ஜெய் ஹிந்த். Jai Hind ������ We humbly ask for your prayers and blessings on this incredible journey. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AkhandBharat?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AkhandBharat</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PMNarendraModi?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PMNarendraModi</a> <a href="https://t.co/t0lQVka7mJ">pic.twitter.com/t0lQVka7mJ</a></p>— Vivek Anand Oberoi (@vivekoberoi) <a href="https://twitter.com/vivekoberoi/status/1082232090756698113?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Bhaijaan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Launched the official poster of film <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PMNarendraModi?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PMNarendraModi</a> in 23 languages with <a href="https://twitter.com/sureshoberoi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@sureshoberoi</a> ji, <a href="https://twitter.com/vivekoberoi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@vivekoberoi</a> , <a href="https://twitter.com/OmungKumar?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@OmungKumar</a> , Sandeep Singh in Mumbai. <br>This film is based on Hon <a href="https://twitter.com/narendramodi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@narendramodi</a> ji’s life as the Prime Minister of India. <a href="https://t.co/1A2YS5Ze68">pic.twitter.com/1A2YS5Ze68</a></p>— Devendra Fadnavis (@Dev_Fadnavis) <a href="https://twitter.com/Dev_Fadnavis/status/1082250590418231297?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[MP2011]

There wasn't a better person to play Modi than Vivek Oberoi who has been unemployed forever. And hold your breath, this crap is being directed by whom, The Omung Kumar, same person who created garbage like Marycom and that crappiest of crap, Surbjit!

 

[MP2011]

And lol at Fadnavis,

Devendra Fadnavis shared pictures from the launch and said the "film is set to create history." He also showered praises on the prime minister calling him a "world leader" and "rajyogi".

So this is what his real job as CM is, to launch film posters....

 

[BreadPakoda]

I'm not a bhakht but hopefully this movie propels the very talented Vivek Oberoi to greater heights. Although it would be very difficult even for him to display the same vivacity and glow that Modiji has, but I can't think of better actors in bollycrap for portraying visionary Modiji.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Accidental PM will unearth a lot of truths of Maun-mohan. Must be made tax free.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

What's your problem with our hardworking PM? At least respect the position of PM of the largest democracy.

Is largest democracy really something that is deserving of respect in itself? Better to look at the politics and whether they represent progress and a bright future for the country.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Is largest democracy really something that is deserving of respect in itself? Better to look at the politics and whether they represent progress and a bright future for the country.

Lol. Seems like I'm getting better with sarcasm. Was just sharing some sample statements by bhakhts.

 

[j_kazmi]

Is it normal for so many political Bollywood films to come out before an election?

 

[Bhaijaan]

Is it normal for so many political Bollywood films to come out before an election?

It wasnt nornal in Congress era.

This is BJP's style of politics. All propaganda.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">And now there’s going to be Rahul Gandhi biopic. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RahulGandhi?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RahulGandhi</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MynameisRaGa?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MynameisRaGa</a> <br><br>Watch trailer <a href="https://t.co/qbcgJZKZTG">https://t.co/qbcgJZKZTG</a></p>— Yahoo India (@YahooIndia) <a href="https://twitter.com/YahooIndia/status/1094279485153660928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 9, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[mustang]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">And now there’s going to be Rahul Gandhi biopic. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RahulGandhi?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RahulGandhi</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MynameisRaGa?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MynameisRaGa</a> <br><br>Watch trailer &#55357;&#56391;<a href="https://t.co/qbcgJZKZTG">https://t.co/qbcgJZKZTG</a></p>— Yahoo India (@YahooIndia) <a href="https://twitter.com/YahooIndia/status/1094279485153660928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 9, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

and ... the list of idiotic Bollywood biographies grows! Just for the record, none of the "biographies" produced by any Indian film industry (dare I say also Pakistan's) are true biographies that also include critical elements. These so called biographies are nothing but marketing spiels to show the subject in question in as much of a favorable light as possible.

I truly wish folks from Pakistan would open up and watch south Indian movies over Bollywood. I know some Sri Lankan who dig south Indian movies and are loving it.

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Vivek Oberoi: We are not projecting Modi ji as larger than life, he already is larger than life. We are not projecting him as a hero, he already is a hero,not only for me but for crores of people in India and abroad. Its an inspirational story which we brought to the screen. <a href="https://t.co/kxAmK22UEq">pic.twitter.com/kxAmK22UEq</a></p>— ANI (@ANI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1113361347062968321?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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