Possibilities of Bangladesh cricket team's success in 2019 World Cup

[jeeteshssaxena]

I think they have a realistic chance,

but for that they need to be in the form of their life,
bang'desh can beat the likes of afg,sl,wi and as we saw last time in champions trophy they can also beat nz
now the biggest challenge for them will be to beat south africa(which i think is quite possible).Sa team is at an all time low so yeah they can do it.
Sabbir is like bang'desh own version of umar akmal if he improves his mental game ,he has all the talent to become a world class player.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Shakib is better than any player currently playing for Pakistan. No, i m not saying it just because he's a bangladeshi. His superior stats across all formats speak for his greatness.

U might consider a 37 years old finished product like Hafeez as the savior of Pakistan, but that doesn't change the fact that he will not manage to bag a position in this Bangladesh team. Shakib is the second greatest allrounder to ever come out of Asia.

Let me show u how BD is superior than pak

Tamim > Imam

Liton= Fakhar ( debatable since liton is technically way more superior)

Mushfiqur> Sarfaraz

Sabbir< Babar

Shakib> Shadab + Hafeez + Malik

Mahamudullah > Imad/Malik

Mehedi> Shadab

Mortaza< Hasan

Fizz> Amir/Junaid/Shaheen

Rubel= Junaid/ Shaheen


U can clearly see that only two Pak players who will manage to get into BD side r Babar and Hasan Babar will replace sabbir and hasan will replace mortaza.

Apart from these two not a single Pak player from current Pak side will manage to enter BD side since BD has superior player in every single position. While players like Shakib, Mahamudullah, Tamim, Fizz, Mushfiqur will walk into the current Pak side without breaking a sweat.

agree with everything but the bolded part

 

[Bigbb]

Shakib is better than any player currently playing for Pakistan. No, i m not saying it just because he's a bangladeshi. His superior stats across all formats speak for his greatness.

U might consider a 37 years old finished product like Hafeez as the savior of Pakistan, but that doesn't change the fact that he will not manage to bag a position in this Bangladesh team. Shakib is the second greatest allrounder to ever come out of Asia.

Let me show u how BD is superior than pak

Tamim > Imam

Liton= Fakhar ( debatable since liton is technically way more superior)

Mushfiqur> Sarfaraz

Sabbir< Babar

Shakib> Shadab + Hafeez + Malik

Mahamudullah > Imad/Malik

Mehedi> Shadab

Mortaza< Hasan

Fizz> Amir/Junaid/Shaheen

Rubel= Junaid/ Shaheen


U can clearly see that only two Pak players who will manage to get into BD side r Babar and Hasan Babar will replace sabbir and hasan will replace mortaza.

Apart from these two not a single Pak player from current Pak side will manage to enter BD side since BD has superior player in every single position. While players like Shakib, Mahamudullah, Tamim, Fizz, Mushfiqur will walk into the current Pak side without breaking a sweat.

Well clearly it's your opinion and I respect it.
Have a good day.

 

[cricketerB94]

Fakhar > The Whole Bangladesh Team

Period.

He actually won something for Pakistan, was man of the match against arch rivals in a final and was phenomenal in Pakistan's champions trophy success.

On the other hand, all the pseudo explosive Bangladesh cricketers could do was crying like a baby whenever they were close to winning anything.

 

[BDfanforever]

In comparison, that is the same chance which pak hockey had to win the recently concluded Hockey WC.

I recall Pak and India used to be powerhouse in field hockey in the past. Once more teams started to play, they became mediocre. Imagine there comes a day when Belgium defeats both India and Pakistan in Cricket in world cup match.

 

[Ronaldo7]

I recall Pak and India used to be powerhouse in field hockey in the past. Once more teams started to play, they became mediocre. Imagine there comes a day when Belgium defeats both India and Pakistan in Cricket in world cup match.

More teams coming wasn't the reason. The reason was that the pitch where hockey was played was changed from grass to astroturf. The dynamics of the game changed. Astro turf was not readily available in pakistan or in the subcontinent in general due to its cost unlike here (the uk) so the technique couldn't be adapted. Also, the interest went down miles after the world cup 1992 victory. So no new players emerged. India won gold medals in hockey in the 50s or 60s but then didn't really go onto become a powerhouse. On the other hand, pakistan won 5 world cups which is still a record.

pakistanis will only lose interest in cricket when football becomes the most played sport in pakistan.

 

[JattMaula]

Not sure why my fellow posters need to act so goody goody and give diplomatic responses like "BD is a good team but they have slim chance to reach top 4" or "It depends on how Tamim bats" or "BD surely can surprise few teams" etc etc.

I was reading all the posts and not a single honest reply. The fact is BD is a rubbish cricket team and have got absolutely ZERO chance what so ever in WC 2019. This should have been the unanimous response. Trust me...many posters knows this already but somehow try to act diplomatic and dont call spade a spade.

A team that has yet to win even a tri series in their history is dreaming about world cup semi final spot? Lol. They would do good even if they win 1 game.
#FACT

I certainly am not acting cliffs bhai. I genuinely thing Bangladesh have decent chance of qualifying for semis.

 

[RainMan_]

agree with everything but the bolded part

Why don't u agree with the bolded part my friend. Yes, Fizz is currently suffering from injury but still this half fit fizz is way better than bowlers like Amir, Junaid, Wahab or perhaps any bowler currently playing for Pakistan

Fizz's bowling stat in last 12 months in odis


And here is Amir's and Junaid's stat in last 1 year





Amir with his 100 bowling avg in last 12 months wouldn't manage to get the chance to warm up the bench of BD team leave alone getting picked in the main 11. Same with Junaid. He would have been picked in the squad but he wouldn't manage to play in the main 11 ahead of Rubel. Rubel has an x factor. He can run through the batting lineup on his day.

Here is Rubel's stat in last 12 months

 

[Ronaldo7]

Why don't u agree with the bolded part my friend. Yes, Fizz is currently suffering from injury but still this half fit fizz is way better than bowlers like Amir, Junaid, Wahab or perhaps any bowler currently playing for Pakistan

Fizz's bowling stat in last 12 months in odis
View attachment 90485

And here is Amir's and Junaid's stat in last 1 year

View attachment 90486

View attachment 90487

Amir with his 100 bowling avg in last 12 months wouldn't manage to get the chance to warm up the bench of BD team leave alone getting picked in the main 11. Same with Junaid. He would have been picked in the squad but he wouldn't manage to play in the main 11 ahead of Rubel. Rubel has an x factor. He can run through the batting lineup on his day.

Here is Rubel's stat in last 12 months
View attachment 90489

Amir would be your main bowler fgs. Who do you actually think Bangladesh is?
The aus of the 90s? The wi of the 70s?

Bangladesh is a failed cricket team. Afg are matching you ALREADY. Look at how many matches they've played. They were in division 5 10 years ago playing with jersey barely beating them.
They were in division FIVE
They beat u by 130 runs in the first match of the asia cup only 10 years later.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/...l-icc-world-cricket-league-division-five-2008

You're the same team since 2008. You've not improved at all. Where is all this arrogance coming from?

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Why don't u agree with the bolded part my friend. Yes, Fizz is currently suffering from injury but still this half fit fizz is way better than bowlers like Amir, Junaid, Wahab or perhaps any bowler currently playing for Pakistan

Fizz's bowling stat in last 12 months in odis
View attachment 90485

And here is Amir's and Junaid's stat in last 1 year

View attachment 90486

View attachment 90487

Amir with his 100 bowling avg in last 12 months wouldn't manage to get the chance to warm up the bench of BD team leave alone getting picked in the main 11. Same with Junaid. He would have been picked in the squad but he wouldn't manage to play in the main 11 ahead of Rubel. Rubel has an x factor. He can run through the batting lineup on his day.

Here is Rubel's stat in last 12 months
View attachment 90489

Fizz is awesome in asia but he failed completely every time he stepped out of asia.
For ex, take his recent performance in nz.
He was ineffective in ct 2017 as well and i don't think that he will be a better option than amir/junaid.
Shaheen is way better than rubel and even though fakhar is not in form, he is a dangerous player who can change the match anytime.

 

[Hyperion66]

More teams coming wasn't the reason. The reason was that the pitch where hockey was played was changed from grass to astroturf. The dynamics of the game changed. Astro turf was not readily available in pakistan or in the subcontinent in general due to its cost unlike here (the uk) so the technique couldn't be adapted. Also, the interest went down miles after the world cup 1992 victory. So no new players emerged. India won gold medals in hockey in the 50s or 60s but then didn't really go onto become a powerhouse. On the other hand, pakistan won 5 world cups which is still a record.

pakistanis will only lose interest in cricket when football becomes the most played sport in pakistan.

Please don't waste your energy on that guy, he has a habit of pulling stuff out of his backside without knowing jack and running away when confronted.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Please don't waste your energy on that guy, he has a habit of pulling stuff out of his backside without knowing jack and running away when confronted.

[MENTION=9211]BDfanforever[/MENTION] is actually a pretty neutral guy. This guy [MENTION=146500]RainMan_[/MENTION] is biased .

 

[Hyperion66]

[MENTION=9211]BDfanforever[/MENTION] is actually a pretty neutral guy. This guy [MENTION=146500]RainMan_[/MENTION] is biased.

I don't mind rainman, there is nothing wrong about being optimistic about your own team, on the other hand all that fanforever guy does is whining about how small and insignificant cricket is compared to other sports and how uncool it is to follow cricket. Typical desi sadakchap self-hating mentality.

 

[Ronaldo7]

I don't mind rainman, there is nothing wrong about being optimistic about your own team, on the other hand all that fanforever guy does is whining about how small and insignificant cricket is compared to other sports and how uncool it is to follow cricket. Typical desi sadakchap self-hating mentality.

Fair enough. I haven't really seen him talking bad about cricket yet. Maybe I'll see that form soon too. It's good to be optimistic but not deluded like the RainMan_ is.

 

[light]

You don't think Haris and Hafeez can walk into the Bangladesh side? Lol

Hafeez of today won't even get in Afgan side let alone bangladesh. Bro plz, just stop embarassing yourself.

 

[MenInG]

An ankle injury to Mustafizur Rahman added to Bangladesh's injury concerns ahead of the ICC Men's Cricket World Cup 2019.

Rahman, the young pace bowler, hurt his left ankle at training recently. According to local media reports, he could be sidelined for two weeks and while he is expected to be named in the squad for the World Cup, he could miss the initial stages of a pre-tournament training camp.

“There is no fracture-related injury [but] there is some pain in the ligament, a lateral ankle sprain," Bangladesh Cricket Board chief physician Dr Debashish Chowdhury was quoted as saying in the Daily Star. "He had suffered this kind of sprain before but predictions regarding these injuries are difficult.

Mushfiqur Rahim is still feeling the effects of an injury sustained during the Asia Cup Mushfiqur Rahim is still feeling the effects of an injury sustained during the Asia Cup
"He will rest partially with little exercise in between and his condition will be reassessed two weeks from now."

Bangladesh already have a long list of injury concerns and the latest will come as an added worry before they pick their squad for the World Cup, the deadline for which is 23 April.

Among the batsmen, Mushfiqur Rahim, who suffered a broken rib-cage in the Asia Cup also had to deal with finger injury during the recent tour of New Zealand. While his finger is healed, the rib still needs rest, reports suggested. Mahmudullah, meanwhile, aggravated a shoulder injury while diving on the field in New Zealand. He has reportedly started batting at the nets again after rehabilitation, although he isn't bowling yet.

Rubel Hossain, the pace bowler, suffered a side strain during a domestic game and is resting, while Taskin Ahmed, his fellow pacer,is striving to be fully fit after time on the sidelines for an ankle injury. As for all-rounder Mohammad Saifuddin, he has concerns with his elbow, but is continuing to play domestic cricket.

The Cricket World Cup gets underway on May 30 in England and Wales. Bangladesh's preparation will include a tri-nation one-day international series in Ireland against the home side and West Indies.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/1175596

 

[Ronaldo7]

Hafeez of today won't even get in Afgan side let alone bangladesh. Bro plz, just stop embarassing yourself.

You're just exaggerating that he's bad. Firstly, obviously he'll get into the afghan team. Secondly, Ban have only one world class allrounder which is Shakib. Hafeez is no.4 in the allrounder ranking.
So you're embarrassing yourself coz you don't even know the facts and you're still making assumptions.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Hafeez of today won't even get in Afgan side let alone bangladesh. Bro plz, just stop embarassing yourself.

Btw what do u even mean by 'won't get into afg side let alone ban?'
Ban require another good allrounder after Shakib. Afg don't.
Also, Afg are on the same level as Bangladesh in Odis so don't know why You're underestimating Afg. Lol.

 

[RainMan_]

An ankle injury to Mustafizur Rahman added to Bangladesh's injury concerns ahead of the ICC Men's Cricket World Cup 2019.

Rahman, the young pace bowler, hurt his left ankle at training recently. According to local media reports, he could be sidelined for two weeks and while he is expected to be named in the squad for the World Cup, he could miss the initial stages of a pre-tournament training camp.

“There is no fracture-related injury [but] there is some pain in the ligament, a lateral ankle sprain," Bangladesh Cricket Board chief physician Dr Debashish Chowdhury was quoted as saying in the Daily Star. "He had suffered this kind of sprain before but predictions regarding these injuries are difficult.

Mushfiqur Rahim is still feeling the effects of an injury sustained during the Asia Cup Mushfiqur Rahim is still feeling the effects of an injury sustained during the Asia Cup
"He will rest partially with little exercise in between and his condition will be reassessed two weeks from now."

Bangladesh already have a long list of injury concerns and the latest will come as an added worry before they pick their squad for the World Cup, the deadline for which is 23 April.

Among the batsmen, Mushfiqur Rahim, who suffered a broken rib-cage in the Asia Cup also had to deal with finger injury during the recent tour of New Zealand. While his finger is healed, the rib still needs rest, reports suggested. Mahmudullah, meanwhile, aggravated a shoulder injury while diving on the field in New Zealand. He has reportedly started batting at the nets again after rehabilitation, although he isn't bowling yet.

Rubel Hossain, the pace bowler, suffered a side strain during a domestic game and is resting, while Taskin Ahmed, his fellow pacer,is striving to be fully fit after time on the sidelines for an ankle injury. As for all-rounder Mohammad Saifuddin, he has concerns with his elbow, but is continuing to play domestic cricket.

The Cricket World Cup gets underway on May 30 in England and Wales. Bangladesh's preparation will include a tri-nation one-day international series in Ireland against the home side and West Indies.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/1175596

Really really sad news.

Surprising to see how easily this guy gets injured.

It's getting annoying to be honest. He has now made it a habit of getting injured before every single important series or tournament.

 

[Chokli]

Bangladesh have to play like cornered tigers if they are to win the 2019 World Cup

 

[Mainul]

I don't think that Bangladesh will do well in this edition.
The cause is we have the weakest bowling among the top 8 teams. We don't have any intimidating pacer or magic spinner. Rather we have got some dibly dobly pacer. Apart from Shakib other bowlers aren't worthy of any mention. In batting. Liton, Soumya are too erratic and inconsistent. But overall batting isn't that bad.

 

[pakistani pride]

Fakhar > The Whole Bangladesh Team

Period.

He actually won something for Pakistan, was man of the match against arch rivals in a final and was phenomenal in Pakistan's champions trophy success.

On the other hand, all the pseudo explosive Bangladesh cricketers could do was crying like a baby whenever they were close to winning anything.

Bangla team is NOTHING compared to the PAK team. Respecting every one but PAKISTAN has a big big history in cricket. Won the WC, WT20, ICC CT.

What has the Bangla team achieved?
People forget that winning or performing in big ICC EVENTS a tough one.

There is a reason the likes of NZ,ENG and SA hardly win trophies. It requires something special.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Lol its so stupid to compare particular players to others, especially bowlers

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

And sorry but the Bangladesh bowling attack is absolutely toothless and will have a very tough time at the WC because guys like Mustafizur, Mehidy Hasan Miraz, Rubel, Mashrafe are bowlers who can do well on Asian wickets but will get tonked all over in England. The batting will have to do all the heavy-lifting and the problem for Bangladesh is that even if their batting gets 300+ on the board there's no telling whether their bowling can defend it or not. Especially against top quality sides. We already saw this at the Champions Trophy in Bangladesh's games against England and India. Where their batting got good totals on the board but the bowlers failed to do anything

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I don't think that Bangladesh will do well in this edition.
The cause is we have the weakest bowling among the top 8 teams. We don't have any intimidating pacer or magic spinner. Rather we have got some dibly dobly pacer. Apart from Shakib other bowlers aren't worthy of any mention. In batting. Liton, Soumya are too erratic and inconsistent. But overall batting isn't that bad.

Lot depends on Tamim, Shakib, Mushfiqur and Mahmudullah

Two of Sabbir, Liton Das or Soumya will also have to step up

 

[RainMan_]

Bangla team is NOTHING compared to the PAK team. Respecting every one but PAKISTAN has a big big history in cricket. Won the WC, WT20, ICC CT.

What has the Bangla team achieved?
People forget that winning or performing in big ICC EVENTS a tough one.

There is a reason the likes of NZ,ENG and SA hardly win trophies. It requires something special.

History has got nothing to do here.

Pak haven't even achieved 25% of what WI have achieved in their entire cricket history. But that same WI just got whitewashed by BD.

Obviously Pak will have some trophies in their trophy cabinet since they have been playing this sport for over 70 years now. Let bd play for same amount of time. I m sure they will also same number of trophies if not more.

 

[Mueez]

Pakistan vs Bangladesh overall record in ODI’s:

31-5

 

[Ronaldo7]

History has got nothing to do here.

Pak haven't even achieved 25% of what WI have achieved in their entire cricket history. But that same WI just got whitewashed by BD.

Obviously Pak will have some trophies in their trophy cabinet since they have been playing this sport for over 70 years now. Let bd play for same amount of time. I m sure they will also same number of trophies if not more.

We won our first world cup after 19 years of our first odi match. You're 33 years and counting and not even close to winning.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Pakistan vs Bangladesh overall record in ODI’s:

31-5

1st win 1999 wc
2nd 3rd 4th win IN ONE SERIES 2015
5th win 2018 asia cup

That one series really messed up our record. They've beaten india more times than they've beaten us in fewer matches.

 

[Mueez]

1st win 1999 wc
2nd 3rd 4th win IN ONE SERIES 2015
5th win 2018 asia cup

That one series really messed up our record. They've beaten india more times than they've beaten us in fewer matches.

Not to forget in 2015 we fielded our all-time low ODI team.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Not to forget in 2015 we fielded our all-time low ODI team.

You know the head to head record is bad when you can name all the matches won one team.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Not to forget in 2015 we fielded our all-time low ODI team.

Azhar was our captain. Lol. That was his first series I think.

 

[Mueez]

You know the head to head record is bad when you can name all the matches won one team.

Hahaha good one )

 

[Chokli]

Not to forget in 2015 we fielded our all-time low ODI team.

we even lost to the BCB XI

http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/...s-tour-match-pakistan-tour-of-bangladesh-2015

 

[Ronaldo7]

You know the head to head record is bad when you can name all the matches won one team.

By one team***

 

[Chokli]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/...stan-1st-odi-pakistan-tour-of-bangladesh-2015

apart from Saad Nasim, that's not a bad squad at all.

Bangladesh played really well to beat us

 

[Ronaldo7]

we even lost to the BCB XI

http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/...s-tour-match-pakistan-tour-of-bangladesh-2015

Lol. Is there anymore proof needed that the 2015 team was our worst?
Still I see some indians bringing that up every single time.

 

[Mueez]

we even lost to the BCB XI

http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/...s-tour-match-pakistan-tour-of-bangladesh-2015

When Rahat the destroyer is playing, there is too much

 

[Ronaldo7]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/...stan-1st-odi-pakistan-tour-of-bangladesh-2015

apart from Saad Nasim, that's not a bad squad at all.

Bangladesh played really well to beat us

They even beat Ind and sa.
Also wasn't this when Ajmal used his new action?

 

[Mueez]

They even beat Ind and sa.
Also wasn't this when Ajmal used his new action?

Yeah it was.

Ajmal 2.0 was never the same as Ajmal 1.0

 

[Chokli]

that was a dark, dark, dark period in Pakistan Cricket.

with all due respect to Bangladesh

 

[topspin]

Bangladesh fans ought to know they may get beaten by Afghanistan, let alone make last 4. So stop dreaming!

Also I have no expectation Pakistan will make the cut for the last 4 either but I’m sure we’ll manage more wins and beat Bangladesh again.

 

[Bangladesh_Fan]

Bangladesh fans ought to know they may get beaten by Afghanistan, let alone make last 4. So stop dreaming!

Also I have no expectation Pakistan will make the cut for the last 4 either but I’m sure we’ll manage more wins and beat Bangladesh again.

Pakistan hasn't beaten Bangladesh in an ODI in last 4/5 years so yeah Pakistan will beat Bangladesh again for sure.

Our best chance of going through is beating Pak, WI, SL, Afg and one of Ind/Aus/NZ/SA. The first four teams we can beat and have beaten before most recently beating WI both home and away and Pak SL Afg in Asia Cup 2018 , the next four will be tougher opponents but we did go though in champions trophy beating one of them.

 

[Bigbb]

Pakistan hasn't beaten Bangladesh in an ODI in last 4/5 years so yeah Pakistan will beat Bangladesh again for sure.

Our best chance of going through is beating Pak, WI, SL, Afg and one of Ind/Aus/NZ/SA. The first four teams we can beat and have beaten before most recently beating WI both home and away and Pak SL Afg in Asia Cup 2018 , the next four will be tougher opponents but we did go though in champions trophy beating one of them.

Lol you're saying as if we faced each other like 11 or 12 times. It's just 4 games for god's sake. And that too 3 odis in your home way back in 2015 , when Pak odi team was at an all time low . The team is completely different now and will thrash Bangladesh more often than not in any format. I know you'll bring up the recent Asia cup game but we struggled to beat even Afghanistan then . That would give you an idea about how shot they were mentally.

 

[saeed5646]

Pakistan hasn't beaten Bangladesh in an ODI in last 4/5 years so yeah Pakistan will beat Bangladesh again for sure.

Our best chance of going through is beating Pak, WI, SL, Afg and one of Ind/Aus/NZ/SA. The first four teams we can beat and have beaten before most recently beating WI both home and away and Pak SL Afg in Asia Cup 2018 , the next four will be tougher opponents but we did go though in champions trophy beating one of them.

History has got nothing to do here.

Pak haven't even achieved 25% of what WI have achieved in their entire cricket history. But that same WI just got whitewashed by BD.

Obviously Pak will have some trophies in their trophy cabinet since they have been playing this sport for over 70 years now. Let bd play for same amount of time. I m sure they will also same number of trophies if not more.

Too bad outside mirpur No body rate bd.This is called cricket knowledge

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Eoin Morgan "Pakistan are probably second or third favourites for the World Cup. They hold the Champions Trophy and played extremely well to win that in England and we’re all looking forward to the series against Pakistan before the World Cup" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EngvPak?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#EngvPak</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CWC19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CWC19</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1117340594890772480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 14, 2019</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[pakistani pride]

History has got nothing to do here.

Pak haven't even achieved 25% of what WI have achieved in their entire cricket history. But that same WI just got whitewashed by BD.

Obviously Pak will have some trophies in their trophy cabinet since they have been playing this sport for over 70 years now. Let bd play for same amount of time. I m sure they will also same number of trophies if not more.

History has a lot to do. When PAK enters a WC they have a history behind them a legacy. They know previous teams have been able to do it. Bangla is playing ODI cricket for well over 30 years. What have they achieved in all those years?

Playing for decades is also no means to decide you will win a lot.

How many ICC trophies have teams like ENG, SA and NZ won comnined vs the 3 of PAK?

 

[Hyperion66]

OP is being polite and and many of his points make sense but he needs to stop crying about umpiring bias if he wants to be taken seriously here. Also why such emphasis on BD being new to cricket? OP is making BD look like some of the Bollywood actors of the 90's who used to appear every year as newcomers. BD has been playing cricket for over 3 decades now with pretty much nothing to show for, posters are right pointing that out.

 

[RainMan_]

We won our first world cup after 19 years of our first odi match. You're 33 years and counting and not even close to winning.

Wrong.

Bangladesh got the right to play international cricket after winning the CT in 97. They have become a full icc member in 2000. Even our main first class structure was established in 2000.

This means even 20 years haven't passed since BD have been playing international cricket seriously and as a full icc member. Still we have achieved so much within such a short period of time that after srilanka we r regarded as one of the fastest improving cricket teams in the history of cricket.


As for Pakistan, they became the full member of icc 52 and won the world Cup 40 years later in 92. I'm sure if we have had the experience of playing international cricket for 40 years we would've won my major tournaments as well.

 

[RainMan_]

Lol you're saying as if we faced each other like 11 or 12 times. It's just 4 games for god's sake. And that too 3 odis in your home way back in 2015 , when Pak odi team was at an all time low . The team is completely different now and will thrash Bangladesh more often than not in any format. I know you'll bring up the recent Asia cup game but we struggled to beat even Afghanistan then . That would give you an idea about how shot they were mentally.

Yup, u r right bud.

This Bangladesh team is really strong. Yes, I agree that winning outside Asia will not be easy. But pls keep in mind that we were the quarter finalist of 2015 wc which took place in Australia, semifinalist of CT that took place in England.

Anyway, thx accepting that BD is an unstoppable force in Asian condition especially in ODIs.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Wrong.

Bangladesh got the right to play international cricket after winning the CT in 97. They have become a full icc member in 2000. Even our main first class structure was established in 2000.

This means even 20 years haven't passed since BD have been playing international cricket seriously and as a full icc member. Still we have achieved so much within such a short period of time that after srilanka we r regarded as one of the fastest improving cricket teams in the history of cricket.


As for Pakistan, they became the full member of icc 52 and won the world Cup 40 years later in 92. I'm sure if we have had the experience of playing international cricket for 40 years we would've won my major tournaments as well.

Lol. You're wrong.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/...hn-player-gold-leaf-trophy--asia-cup--1985-86

It has been 33 years since your first odi. As for achievement, what have u achieved?
You haven't won a SINGLE AWAY ODI series against a top 5 team. You're not improving. Once Mushfiqur and Shakib retire your cricket standards will fall drastically.

 

[RainMan_]

Pakistan vs Bangladesh overall record in ODI’s:

31-5

Of course a class 10 student who has been studying for 12/13 years will perform better against a class 1 student if they r evaluated by using the same question paper.

Point is, they way BD has improved in cricket as a young team is truly remarkable.

Our recent 4-0 record over Pakistan will surely inspire us in the upcoming wc match against Pakistan.

 

[Titan24]

Why don't u agree with the bolded part my friend. Yes, Fizz is currently suffering from injury but still this half fit fizz is way better than bowlers like Amir, Junaid, Wahab or perhaps any bowler currently playing for Pakistan

Fizz's bowling stat in last 12 months in odis
View attachment 90485

And here is Amir's and Junaid's stat in last 1 year

View attachment 90486

View attachment 90487

Amir with his 100 bowling avg in last 12 months wouldn't manage to get the chance to warm up the bench of BD team leave alone getting picked in the main 11. Same with Junaid. He would have been picked in the squad but he wouldn't manage to play in the main 11 ahead of Rubel. Rubel has an x factor. He can run through the batting lineup on his day.

Here is Rubel's stat in last 12 months
View attachment 90489

Funny, when comparing Rubel with Amir and Junaid you are using filtered stars for last 12 months but, are not even coming near to any of the stats when you are trying to compare the batting lineup.

 

[Titan24]

I guess outside some posters here, no cricket follower let alone any cricket expert will compare some teams and some players with BD team and players the way its being done in this thread and also that 2nd best Asian team thread.

No disrespect to BD team but some camparisons are pretty odd.

Rubel being better than Amir and Junaid by filtering it out for 12 months is laughable to say the least.

In such way with selective period stats it can be proved Shadab is a better all rounder than Shakib let alone Mehdi who has career bowling avg of 35 and takes almost 1 wicket every game.

 

[RainMan_]

I guess outside some posters here, no cricket follower let alone any cricket expert will compare some teams and some players with BD team and players the way its being done in this thread and also that 2nd best Asian team thread.

No disrespect to BD team but some camparisons are pretty odd.

Rubel being better than Amir and Junaid by filtering it out for 12 months is laughable to say the least.

In such way with selective period stats it can be proved Shadab is a better all rounder than Shakib let alone Mehdi who has career bowling avg of 35 and takes almost 1 wicket every game.

I meant no disrespect towards Pak. I was trying to explain why bowlers like Amir or Junaid wont manage to enter BD side. Nothing else.

If Amir can start performing well with the ball then he might get a place in BD squad.

 

[Ronaldo7]

I meant no disrespect towards Pak. I was trying to explain why bowlers like Amir or Junaid wont manage to enter BD side. Nothing else.

If Amir can start performing well with the ball then he might get a place in BD squad.

Didn't know BD was considered to be Aus of the 90s by some Bangaldeshis. You find out new things every day wow.

 

[Titan24]

I meant no disrespect towards Pak. I was trying to explain why bowlers like Amir or Junaid wont manage to enter BD side. Nothing else.

If Amir can start performing well with the ball then he might get a place in BD squad.

Only if Shakib would have been a better all rounder than Shadab he might have gotten a place in PAK squad.

 

[giri26]

Bangladesh World Cup squad: Key questions

Bangladesh are all set to announce their 15-man squad for the ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup 2019 on Tuesday, 16 April. With their last ODI assignment a 3-0 defeat to New Zealand, several issues are currently at play for the Tigers.

With their last ODI assignment a 3-0 defeat to New Zealand, several issues are currently at play for the Tigers. Here's a look at five of the most pressing.

1. Should Imrul Kayes return to the side? Kayes’ omission seemed baffling prior to the tour of New Zealand, and as Bangladesh struggled for runs from their top order across the three-match series, his omission became even more puzzling. While Kayes struggled against West Indies at the end of last year, prior to that, three innings against Zimbabwe in October accumulated 349 runs at an average of 116. It seems hard not to envision the left-hander in Bangladesh’s 15-man squad.

2. Who’s fit? Herein lies a significant issue for Bangladesh, with a significant number of injury concerns ahead of the tournament. Their leading left-arm seamer Mustafizur Rahman is currently struggling with an ankle problem, Mahmudullah has only recently started training after a shoulder injury, while Rubel Hossain has a side strain. While the BCB’s chief physician, Debashis Chowdhury, told AFP that all should be fit come the World Cup, it does not bode well for the side ahead of their tri-nation tournament against Ireland and West Indies, set to begin on 5 May.

3. Before the World Cup gets underway, Bangladesh will contest a tri-series against Ireland and West Indies, the squad for which will be announced at the same time as the World Cup squad.

The Tigers are set to name 17 players to head to Ireland, and have suggested that for those players left out of the initial World Cup squad, it will be a last chance to curry favour and encourage a late alteration to the group for the main event. Make sure to follow both announcements closely.

4. It’s no secret that Bangladesh’s main weapon, historically, has been their spinners, and to an extent that remains true. Left-armer Shakib Al Hasan and off-spinner Mehidy Hasan Miraz have been two of their standout bowlers in recent times, each claiming over 20 wickets at economy rates near four an over than five an over since the start of 2018.

Beyond them however, their slow bowling options look thin, with no other twirler taking more than six wickets in that time. Will they back their tried and tested method and pick some back-ups, or rely on Mahmudullah’s part-time offerings should one of their main two tweakers sustain an injury?

5. Since the start of 2018, a neat XI of players have made it into double digits in ODI caps for Bangladesh, and it would be surprise if any of that core group don’t win selection.

Outside of them however, it’s all up for grabs, with plenty of players having been given a chance without fully establishing themselves. Most have legitimate reasons to be hopeful, but none can be fully sure of their places, and so the announcement promises to be fascinating.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/1179704

 

[The_Odd_One]

Pakistan hasn't beaten Bangladesh in an ODI in last 4/5 years so yeah Pakistan will beat Bangladesh again for sure.

Our best chance of going through is beating Pak, WI, SL, Afg and one of Ind/Aus/NZ/SA. The first four teams we can beat and have beaten before most recently beating WI both home and away and Pak SL Afg in Asia Cup 2018 , the next four will be tougher opponents but we did go though in champions trophy beating one of them.

Pakistan even almost lost a side match against Bangladesh before CT until Faheem played a fluke inning taking full advantage of a ridiculously short boundary.

Delusional Pakistani posters taking Pakistan vs Bangladesh match lightly are setting themselves up for a well deserved humiliation.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Pakistan even almost lost a side match against Bangladesh before CT until Faheem played a fluke inning taking full advantage of a ridiculously short boundary.

Delusional Pakistani posters taking Pakistan vs Bangladesh match lightly are setting themselves up for a well deserved humiliation.

We were a very new side in the Ct17. Now we are more experienced. There's a big difference. Our practice and the actual match against you will prove this.

 

[gazza619]

Pakistan even almost lost a side match against Bangladesh before CT until Faheem played a fluke inning taking full advantage of a ridiculously short boundary.

Delusional Pakistani posters taking Pakistan vs Bangladesh match lightly are setting themselves up for a well deserved humiliation.

Well i have no doubt in my mind that there is not much difference quality wise between the two sides. If Bangladesh wins, it will not be claimed as an upset and that is the bottom line really.

 

[MMHS]

Well i have no doubt in my mind that there is not much difference quality wise between the two sides. If Bangladesh wins, it will not be claimed as an upset and that is the bottom line really.

That's true, no doubt about it. In terms of tournament favorites, PAK should be among top 5 (which is higher than the rank), and we'll be in bottom half.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Well i have no doubt in my mind that there is not much difference quality wise between the two sides. If Bangladesh wins, it will not be claimed as an upset and that is the bottom line really.

After beating a side 4 times in a row, don't think calling another win an upset would be justified. But still feel people are underrating pakistan too much against bangladesh.

 

[light]

You're just exaggerating that he's bad. Firstly, obviously he'll get into the afghan team. Secondly, Ban have only one world class allrounder which is Shakib. Hafeez is no.4 in the allrounder ranking.
So you're embarrassing yourself coz you don't even know the facts and you're still making assumptions.

All jokes and trolling aside, here is my problem with Hafeez of 'Today'. He is not good enough of a batsmen to warrant a place in either of those two teams. I honestly don't think he even deserves a spot in team Pakistan either. You guys have better batsmen who could surely replace him. Hafeez of yesteryear was a great asset to have, could do the job of both a proper bowler and a decent batsmen. This also allowed you to play an additional bowler/batsmen depending on the situation (kinda like what Shakib/Nabi provides to their respective teams). However after the chucking incident, we all know where his bowling went.

Since I am more knowledgable about BD cricket team than AFG(they just recently started to televise their team often so am not always upto mark about some of their players - aside from the superstars)- So let's take BD cricket team for example, let's say you want to put Hafeez in there. Which spot would you bat him at? I honestly don't see a spot for him to play as a pure batsmen. You have Tamim as a proper opener, that sharkar kid isn't half bad either (on his day). You have the little keeper, Shakib and Muhamadulla. That's literally your top 5 - aside from Sabbir, mortaza and mustafizur, not sure about their current players so can't comment on if they are bad/good. So where do you bat Hafeez at? Lower down the order? Cause top 5 is cemented with batsmen who can do a better job than Hafeez himself. Would be interesting to see where you would bat him?

 

[The_Odd_One]

We were a very new side in the Ct17. Now we are more experienced. There's a big difference. Our practice and the actual match against you will prove this.

This "experienced side" could not chase 230 against Bangladesh C but somehow the same side will start as favorites against Bangladesh. Pakistani fans need to come back to earth after the thrashing this team has been getting since the CT fluke.

 

[Ronaldo7]

This "experienced side" could not chase 230 against Bangladesh C but somehow the same side will start as favorites against Bangladesh. Pakistani fans need to come back to earth after the thrashing this team has been getting since the CT fluke.

There's no arguing who's favourite when pak play ban. It obviously pak. All the bookies support that. Also we're not small favourites we're pretty big favourites.
So instead of showing so much attitude, deal with the facts.
Your sh*t attitude won't work here.

 

[Bigbb]

This "experienced side" could not chase 230 against Bangladesh C but somehow the same side will start as favorites against Bangladesh. Pakistani fans need to come back to earth after the thrashing this team has been getting since the CT fluke.

Okay now a Bangladesh fan is calling our CT win a fluke.

Your team can't even fluke an Asia cup or even a tri series lol. And you are dissing us.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Okay now a Bangladesh fan is calling our CT win a fluke.

Your team can't even fluke an Asia cup or even a tri series lol. And you are dissing us.

Pakistan is my country by birth and the US is my country of citizenship so I have nothing to do with Bangladesh. I want Pakistan to lift the trophy but I’m not delusional to think that Pakistan is some top team that they will start as heavy favorites against Bangladesh.

 

[The_Odd_One]

There's no arguing who's favourite when pak play ban. It obviously pak. All the bookies support that. Also we're not small favourites we're pretty big favourites.
So instead of showing so much attitude, deal with the facts.
Your sh*t attitude won't work here.

I get it. So, The posters who are acting like their team is a world beater are showing humbleness while someone who is showing respect to other teams has an attitude problem?

 

[Ronaldo7]

I get it. So, The posters who are acting like their team is a world beater are showing humbleness while someone who is showing respect to other teams has an attitude problem?

Dunno what you're aiming at. It's pretty clear you were showing attitude to something that isn't even right.

 

[Slim]

An umpiring error will rob Bangladesh off the world cup like every tournament.

 

[RainMan_]

An umpiring error will rob Bangladesh off the world cup like every tournament.

U can't ignore the fact that BD has always been at the receiving end of poor and biased umpiring.

 

[RainMan_]

Well i have no doubt in my mind that there is not much difference quality wise between the two sides. If Bangladesh wins, it will not be claimed as an upset and that is the bottom line really.

Agreed.

Even though BD will start as favourites but that doesn't change the fact that there's little to no difference between these two teams.

 

[Slim]

Agreed.

Even though BD will start as favourites but that doesn't change the fact that there's little to no difference between these two teams.

its always good to play bangladesh, i hope you guys visit Pakistan soon!

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Its a funny thread.

Two mediocre teams fighting over which is better with both having no realistic chance of lifting the trophy.

 

[RainMan_]

its always good to play bangladesh, i hope you guys visit Pakistan soon!

Off course my friend. Good relationship between PCB and BCB will be beneficial for both of the boards.

Whether BD should visit Pak or not is up for a debate. However, PCB should definitely invite BD for a full fledged odi and test series in UAE.

 

[Slim]

Off course my friend. Good relationship between PCB and BCB will be beneficial for both of the boards.

Whether BD should visit Pak or not is up for a debate. However, PCB should definitely invite BD for a full fledged odi and test series in UAE.

Dont think PCB would do that and i would understand if they dont. Sri Lanka has already visited Pakistan, and so have English and other players via PSL. Dont see why BCB cannot play a ODI series in Pakistan now.

 

[RainMan_]

Dont think PCB would do that and i would understand if they dont. Sri Lanka has already visited Pakistan, and so have English and other players via PSL. Dont see why BCB cannot play a ODI series in Pakistan now.

Why wouldn't PCB invite BD in UAE? What would be the reasons behind it? If PCB can invite teams like SL, WI for a full fledged series in UAE, why can't they do the same in case of BD?

BD will visit Pak if the security situation in Pak improves. Untill then I think BD will continue doing what all the other international teams have been doing as far as visiting Pak is concerned. I know it's unfair to Pak supporters. But it is what it is. Security of our national players is of utmost importance.

However, I still believe that it can still happen in future. But in order to make that to happen PCB need to show maturity and build a friendship of trust and respect with BCB. And the only way they can do that is by inviting BD in UAE on a regular basis. If these two boards can come close by playing regularly against each other then obviously BCB will consider about helping out their fellow friendly board by sending out their national team to Pakistan.

But the ball is in PCB's court now. Whether they want to build friendly relationship with BCB by inviting BD in UAE or not is to totally up to them.

 

[Mueez]

Why wouldn't PCB invite BD in UAE? What would be the reasons behind it? If PCB can invite teams like SL, WI for a full fledged series in UAE, why can't they do the same in case of BD?

BD will visit Pak if the security situation in Pak improves. Untill then I think BD will continue doing what all the other international teams have been doing as far as visiting Pak is concerned. I know it's unfair to Pak supporters. But it is what it is. Security of our national players is of utmost importance.

However, I still believe that it can still happen in future. But in order to make that to happen PCB need to show maturity and build a friendship of trust and respect with BCB. And the only way they can do that is by inviting BD in UAE on a regular basis. If these two boards can come close by playing regularly against each other then obviously BCB will consider about helping out their fellow friendly board by sending out their national team to Pakistan.

But the ball is in PCB's court now. Whether they want to build friendly relationship with BCB by inviting BD in UAE or not is to totally up to them.

I think it would be better to host Bangladesh in UAE first and then talk about hosting Bangladesh in Pakistan.

PCB should atleast take the first step.

Also the recent happenings in NZ might differ the way how players decide about going on a tour to Pak.

It is what it is.

 

[MenInG]

Mushfiqur Rahim, the Bangladesh wicket-keeper batsman, has talked up his team's chances at the ICC Men's Cricket World Cup 2019, saying they were good enough to go all the way.

Rahim will be making his fourth World Cup appearance next month, and believed the format for this edition, in which all 10 participating teams play each other in the round-robin stage, would be challenging.

However, given Bangladesh have a few experienced campaigners in their 15-man squad, he said the side could do well. "It’s a tough format, but every team will get an equal chance to prove their skill through it," he told reporters on Sunday, 28 April. "I can say the format is more comfortable for Bangladesh.

"Having most experienced players in the team, this is the strongest World Cup team that Bangladesh have ever had. We lost many finals in the recent past. Maybe, a big achievement is waiting for us in the future."

Asked if that meant his side were capable of winning the World Cup, he said: "It’s not impossible. It’s tough, but possible. I personally believe that we have the ability to reach the knockout stages, and anything can happen if we can reach that point."

I personally believe that we have the ability to reach the knockout stages and anything can happen if we can reach that point.
Mushfiqur Rahim

Rahim was also hopeful of displaying his best at the biggest stage. "Everyone wants to do well in a big event. I think I’m no exception," he said. "I have played three World Cups and scored runs for my country. It’s going to be my fourth World Cup. I’ll try to do something remarkable.

"I'll be playing in the event to surpass all the previous records of mine. As a batsman, I’ll try to help the team according to my experience."

Rahim acknowledged it was likely to be Bangladesh captain Mashrafe Mortaza's last World Cup, and said the team were determined to honour him with a "special" performance.

"There are expectations and pressure in every international game as you are representing a nation, and it’s a matter of huge pride and honour," said Rahim. "This may be our last world cup together if Mashrafe bhai is unable to play the next World Cup. We all want to do something special, at least for Mashrafe bhai."

Bangladesh's World Cup preparations will begin in earnest when they leave for Ireland on 1 May to participate in a tri-nation series, involving the hosts and West Indies. It will be their first series after being blanked 3-0 in New Zealand, and Rahim admitted "the upcoming Ireland series is very important to regroup as a unit."

Their World Cup campaign begins on 2 June at The Oval against South Africa.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/1203926

 

[giri26]

'Just another big tournament' – Mortaza wary of 'extra pressure' at World Cup

Mashrafe Mortaza, the Bangladesh captain, said he wouldn't concentrate on personal milestones to avoid "any extra pressure" at the ICC Men's Cricket World Cup 2019, but believes his team can do "something extraordinary".

The 35-year-old confirmed the 2019 World Cup would be his last, but that doesn't mean he will attach more weight to the tournament and heap pressure on himself. Instead, he will consider it as "just another big tournament".

"This is definitely my last World Cup," he said on Monday, 29 April. "I have to perform as a player, and of course, my role as captain is going to be important too. I have to fulfill my duties, but there's nothing more I can do. I don't have any personal goals. I never want to take any extra pressure.

"I am a believer in luck, so what is meant to happen, will happen. It's also not that I will do any extra preparation. It's just another big tournament for us and we want to play well to make it memorable. Nothing is impossible, but it will be very important for us to handle the ups and downs."

Mushfiqur Rahim, the wicket-keeper batsman, recently said this Bangladesh squad was the best they have sent to a World Cup. Mortaza remains wary of such claims, though, and pointed out that their squads that contested the ICC Champions Trophy 2017 and Asia Cup 2018 were similar.

"It's the same team apart from one or two players, which has been playing together for the last two-three years but we don't have any trophy to show even though we played some finals," he said.

"The team didn't do anything so significant in the meantime that they should have been termed as the best team. This kind of tag creates unnecessary pressure on the players. I don't want to say it's the best team but yes, we are going to play the World Cup with our best available team. That's it."

The World Cup, beginning on 30 May, will involve each team playing the other nine participants in a robin-round format, with the top four sides qualifying for the semi-finals. Squad depth, therefore, is likely to be key.

"No doubt this World Cup is going to be tougher for us because of the format," said Mortaza. "But I still believe we are capable of doing something extraordinary. Just we need to start the tournament on a good note. We need to take it match by match rather than thinking too far."

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/1204406