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Mohsin_Pak786 said:Like Wazeeri said, not test material. In ODIs he's effective in the initial overs with the ball swinging. In test's he wont be able to do anything special, he hasn't got any pace or anything
Ghoshtbuster said:It is generally accepted that the white ball swings more than the red ball. Thus, Praveen's (lol, girls name) ability to swing the ball would appear exaggerated in ODI cricket compared to Test cricket.
Could be used as a specialist swing bowler though, in conditions which are certian to favour swing over spin.
He has a very good average for First Class (as you posted in the OP) - so he definatly is doing the right things in domestic cricket.tmac4real said:that's what I'm saying. Like instead of taking Pathan next time (when they take him) give a chance to Praveen.
Here in India 'Praveen' is a name for guys, not girls. What about in Pakistan ?Ghoshtbuster said:It is generally accepted that the white ball swings more than the red ball. Thus, Praveen's (lol, girls name) ability to swing the ball would appear exaggerated in ODI cricket compared to Test cricket.
Could be used as a specialist swing bowler though, in conditions which are certian to favour swing over spin.
I dont know. I think it may be unisex. But sounds feminine, just like Naseem :dnabublubhuyan said:Here in India 'Praveen' is a name for guys, not girls. What about in Pakistan ?
Ghoshtbuster said:I dont know. I think it may be unisex. But sounds feminine, just like Naseem :dna
Don't insult the great man.Ghoshtbuster said:I dont know. I think it may be unisex. But sounds feminine, just like Naseem :dna
Ghoshtbuster said:It is generally accepted that the white ball swings more than the red ball. Thus, Praveen's (lol, girls name) ability to swing the ball would appear exaggerated in ODI cricket compared to Test cricket.
Could be used as a specialist swing bowler though, in conditions which are certian to favour swing over spin.
DHONI183 said:I think there is bit of a confusion here. The female name which we often hear of Pakistani girls is 'Parveen' and not 'Praveen' (which surely is an Indian name for boys).
Edit:
Just found the meanings of the both names:
'Praveen' means "skilled" in Sanskrit language.
'Parveen' Means "the Pleiades" in Persian language.
DHONI183 said:'Praveen' means "skilled" in Sanskrit language.
'Parveen' Means "the Pleiades" in Persian language.
rahulrulezz said:most people here are saying that he is not a flat pitch bowler...as a matter of fact, he was choosen on his perfomance on flat pitches... in my opinion, out of all the bowlers, he is the most effective on flat pitches... he has far better average and strike rate in domestic circuit and is miles ahead of any other fast bowler in domestic circuit... and we all know our domestic circuit should actually be called 'flat pitches circuit'
Random Aussie said:To replace Zaheer or Ishant?)
India have decent pace bowlers these days.
tmac4real said:there are more than two pacers...
Random Aussie said:So ahead of RP Singh or Sreesanth?
And India only play 2 pacers in Tests....
tmac4real said:when they play 3, half the time someone is injured, that's how pathan gets his chances...Praveen is as good as Pathan with balls and Pathan has got some test callups.
rahulrulezz said:most people here are saying that he is not a flat pitch bowler...as a matter of fact, he was choosen on his perfomance on flat pitches... in my opinion, out of all the bowlers, he is the most effective on flat pitches... he has far better average and strike rate in domestic circuit and is miles ahead of any other fast bowler in domestic circuit... and we all know our domestic circuit should actually be called 'flat pitches circuit'
Bumblebee said:i was just wondering, where praveen kumar is??
Is he injured or dropped? if he is dropped i think it is unfair cause the guy is a decent bowler! Helped us win in Australia (bowled brilliantly in both the finals) and also bowled decently in the Asia cup and kitply cup certainly better then irfan pathan!
Luton Bad Boy said:Why are you worried, when you have the bowling riches of Praveen Kumar, Amit Mishra, Ishant Sharma, Sreesanth, Zaheer Khan, Harbhajan Singh.....this bench strength is excellent to have and is unlike Pakistan's non-playing and non-existent stars which are Mohammad Asif, Umar Gul, Shoaib Akhtar, Danish Kaneria, Saeed Ajmal
indeed. but he is a good lad.thugacation said:P Kumar has not been as effective in the sub-continent as he has been outside
nope , not test material .....wudnt play him even for odi's on flat pitches !
P Kumar has not been as effective in the sub-continent as he has been outside
may be I was wrong , am impressed for now . He could be deadly in England . would be my pick for the 3rd seamer
TBH his pace increased in 1 test he was about 72-74 and now is about 76-78 with most deliveries.Won't be effective against better batsmen. He swings the ball which can pose a problem but his lack of pace will not trouble the best as they will be able to bat outside their crease, come down the track to reduce the impact of his swing.
Similar thing happened to Asif in England last year where the likes of Pietersen and Trott could walk across the crease, come down the track and bat outside their crease. However, against Amir they couldn't as he was much faster hence why he did better than Asif.
Praveen Kumar is slower than Asif who averaged low 80s and Kumar seems to average around 75mph. Against the poor quality of batsmen he is currently bowling at his swing alone is good enough to trouble them however against England swing alone will not work it will have to be at pace otherwise it can be counter attacked and similar to a fast spinner.
he does not have sufficient pace to trouble batsman, needs to be 82-85mph atleast
He needs to be atleast 80-83mph to trouble good batsmen. And I do not see that happening. However, from whatever I have seen of him, he looks promising and can trouble the English batsmen in English conditions.
Youngsta beauty
He is the most lethal swing bowler in world cricket right nowAnd is also working up serious pace man, was bowling at 70mph yesterday
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Somebody who bowls normally at 75 mph, touching 85 mph is almost impossible. And I do not feel he intends or is working on increasing pace. I do not like his runup. No way can he generate pace with that action. Although he looks physically strong and tall to bowl at around 80-85 mph.
Youngsta beauty
He is the most lethal swing bowler in world cricket right nowAnd is also working up serious pace man, was bowling at 70mph yesterday
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nope never checked or called even in domesticGood bowler, but what is up with that run up? Looks like a spinner jogging in....
Also, I thought I saw a little bend in his arm. Has he been checked/cleared for chucking in the past?
dale steyn by far in terms of impact. In terms of movement maybe PK but steyns phenomenal pace with his late outswing are simply lethalHe's not eyecatching or all that quick, but has fantastic control of line and length.
Would it be unfair to say that he bowls the best outswinger in international cricket at the moment - perhaps Dale Steyn or Jimmy Anderson might disagree with that ?
He's not eyecatching or all that quick, but has fantastic control of line and length.
Would it be unfair to say that he bowls the best outswinger in international cricket at the moment - perhaps Dale Steyn or Jimmy Anderson might disagree with that ?
A bowler who can swing the ball both ways ( and he is capable of doing this on the flattest of pitches ) is worth his weight in gold, He can be our Asif
As far as i know the girl form of the name "Praveen" is "Praveena" and Praveen is a boys name.
Source: Personally know two Praveen's and a Praveena.![]()
He is a street smart bowler, and that's what is required these days![]()
There is a difference between PK and asif. Asif was a seamer didnt really swing the ball in the air.