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Predict the outcome of the Australia versus India ODI series

Predict the outcome of the Australia versus India ODI series

  • Australia 3-0 India

    Votes: 10 52.6%

  • Australia 2-1 India

    Votes: 4 21.1%

  • India 3-0 Australia

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • India 2-1 Australia

    Votes: 5 26.3%
  • Total voters
    19
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Two strong ODI outfits, which team will win?

Australia have home advantage and they will benefit from that.

However, India won the last bilateral series between these two teams, so it looks like it will be a close contest.
 
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It's gonna be a very tight series. Indians got the batting firepower and match-winning bowlers so I'll vote 1-2 to India.

Although won't be surprised if Aussies win it 2-1.
 
Rohit being out is too big a blow for India to overcome. I'm going 2-1 Australia.
 
Aussie middle order and lower middle order is inconsistent. Think india will win.

Aus should bring back handscomb, let marnus be a test specialist.
 
Rohit is an immense loss. India have the resources to cope reasonably well without him, but his absence makes Australia favorites in my view.

Nevertheless, regardless of the outcome, it is going to be a great series between two incredible teams.
 
When Australians get on top from the beginning of tour, usually the hey dont let you rise from then on. From that point of view, it's important to start the tour solid with few wins. The team is capable batting wise but remains to be seen how the white ball bowling line up bowls in Australia.
The series depends on how well India can bowl.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
When Australians get on top from the beginning of tour, usually the hey dont let you rise from then on. From that point of view, it's important to start the tour solid with few wins. The team is capable batting wise but remains to be seen how the white ball bowling line up bowls in Australia.
The series depends on how well India can bowl.
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This Australian team is a top side, among the three best sides in the world alongside India and England, but people have a habit of overrating them because of the past heroics of the great Australian side.

All this talk of them not allowing anyone to recover in a series and their big game mentality does not apply to this Australian team.

We heard the same last year during the World Cup when some Australian fans wouldn’t stop talking about how they turn up in World Cups, but then we saw what happened to them in the semifinal.

Similarly, they had a golden chance of winning the Ashes in England for the first time since 2001, but they got pasted in the 5th Test and the series ended 2-2.

In UAE two years ago, the drew the first Test vs Pakistan from an unlikely position but didn’t capitalize on that momentum and got butchered in the second Test.

Langer made an inspiring speech in the dressing room after that Test and we saw it on Amazon prime, but none of that helped the team turn up in the second Test.

Moreover, we saw their grand surrender in India in 2016 after they thumped India in the first Test.

Generally speaking, it is hard for any touring side to win a series if they do win the first Test, especially if it is a long tour. However, that is not unique to this Australian side and neither do they have any special abilities.
 
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Mamoon said:
This Australian team is a top side, among the three best sides in the world alongside India and England, but people have a habit of overrating them because of the past heroics of the great Australian side.

All this talk of them not allowing anyone to recover in a series and their big game mentality does not apply to this Australian team.

We heard the same last year during the World Cup when some Australian fans wouldn’t stop talking about how they turn up in World Cups, but then we saw what happened to them in the semifinal.

Similarly, they had a golden chance of winning the Ashes in England for the first time since 2001, but they got pasted in the 5th Test and the series ended 2-2.

In UAE two years ago, the drew the first Test vs Pakistan from an unlikely position but didn’t capitalize on that momentum and got butchered in the second Test.

Langer made an inspiring speech in the dressing room after that Test and we saw it on Amazon prime, but none of that helped the team turn up in the second Test.

Moreover, we saw their grand surrender in India in 2016 after they thumped India in the first Test.

Generally speaking, it is hard for any touring side to win a series if they do win the first Test, especially if it is a long tour. However, that is not unique to this Australian side and neither do they have any special abilities.
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As an Indian fan, one thing we have overcome is fear of playing Australian fast bowlers. We did that long time ago. So that hostility and fear isn't there no more. Things got even better when we found depth and quality in lower batting order.

In past few years the difference has been how we can match up to the task in the field and with the ball. Australian grounds are huge, lot of running and diving and them Aussies ensure to make the difference in fitness standards hurt.

If you have a quality team which can match up to the Aussies strength and conditioning size then it's game on because pitches have no demons in them u like our sub par SC pitched. Great tracks to bat. Capable batsmen should score a ton of runs down under.
 
Mamoon said:
This Australian team is a top side, among the three best sides in the world alongside India and England, but people have a habit of overrating them because of the past heroics of the great Australian side.

All this talk of them not allowing anyone to recover in a series and their big game mentality does not apply to this Australian team.

We heard the same last year during the World Cup when some Australian fans wouldn’t stop talking about how they turn up in World Cups, but then we saw what happened to them in the semifinal.

Similarly, they had a golden chance of winning the Ashes in England for the first time since 2001, but they got pasted in the 5th Test and the series ended 2-2.

In UAE two years ago, the drew the first Test vs Pakistan from an unlikely position but didn’t capitalize on that momentum and got butchered in the second Test.

Langer made an inspiring speech in the dressing room after that Test and we saw it on Amazon prime, but none of that helped the team turn up in the second Test.

Moreover, we saw their grand surrender in India in 2016 after they thumped India in the first Test.

Generally speaking, it is hard for any touring side to win a series if they do win the first Test, especially if it is a long tour. However, that is not unique to this Australian side and neither do they have any special abilities.
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I think the test Australian side has become very strong now with the inclusion of Marnus Labuschagne. Other top teams have good bowling attack as well but in batting it would come down to the two best players to perform as most teams have only two quality batsmen to rely on away from home. But now Australia has Smith, Warner and Marnus and that is what makes them a very strong team.

India have Kohli and Pujara. NZ have Kane and Rosco and England have Root and Stokes. But Australia have Smith, Warner and Marnus.
 
So before it was a blessing in disguise but now Rohit's absence will affect the outcome of this series lol? For more info read 'Rohit Sharma dropped from all formats' thread. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
So before it was a blessing in disguise but now Rohit's absence will affect the outcome of this series lol? For more info read 'Rohit Sharma dropped from all formats' thread. :inti
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I know your comprehending abilities leave a lot to desire but seriously? :inti


All the focus on this tour is on the Tests. So when one hears "Rohit Sharma to miss Aussie tour", their attention automatically shifts to it's impact on the test series. So, indeed it is a blessing in disguise. Obviously he'll be missed in Lois as he's arguably our best white ball player. But no-one will care if India gets swept in both ODIs and T20s even if we draw the Test series.
 
India will win 2-1. If Rohit was in the team, we would have won 3-0.
 
Ab Fan said:
I think the test Australian side has become very strong now with the inclusion of Marnus Labuschagne. Other top teams have good bowling attack as well but in batting it would come down to the two best players to perform as most teams have only two quality batsmen to rely on away from home. But now Australia has Smith, Warner and Marnus and that is what makes them a very strong team.

India have Kohli and Pujara. NZ have Kane and Rosco and England have Root and Stokes. But Australia have Smith, Warner and Marnus.
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Yep. Contrary to what people say, australian bowlers isn't their main strength although it is probably their best every attack tbh. It is Smith and Warner that make the difference. Those boys from Australia are lucky they don't have to face the mighty Smith otherwise their averages would have been inflated.

McGrath and everyone are lucky not to have faced a guy like Smith. I truly respect this guy regardless whether he is a cheater or not. The best batsman I have ever seen in my life. Absolute monster.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
As an Indian fan, one thing we have overcome is fear of playing Australian fast bowlers. We did that long time ago. So that hostility and fear isn't there no more. Things got even better when we found depth and quality in lower batting order.

In past few years the difference has been how we can match up to the task in the field and with the ball. Australian grounds are huge, lot of running and diving and them Aussies ensure to make the difference in fitness standards hurt.

If you have a quality team which can match up to the Aussies strength and conditioning size then it's game on because pitches have no demons in them u like our sub par SC pitched. Great tracks to bat. Capable batsmen should score a ton of runs down under.
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Yea india closed the gap in terms of fitness standards which is why they won last time but I still think toss will decide the winner in this series.
 
Ab Fan said:
I think the test Australian side has become very strong now with the inclusion of Marnus Labuschagne. Other top teams have good bowling attack as well but in batting it would come down to the two best players to perform as most teams have only two quality batsmen to rely on away from home. But now Australia has Smith, Warner and Marnus and that is what makes them a very strong team.

India have Kohli and Pujara. NZ have Kane and Rosco and England have Root and Stokes. But Australia have Smith, Warner and Marnus.
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We have Mayank who is every bit as good as marnus. He smacked the aussie attack off the couch.
 
3-0 to Australia.India stand no chance against full strength Australian side.Even in one of the tour if I remember correctly Australian A side completely annihilated Indian full strength side few years ago.
 
choudhary6964 said:
3-0 to Australia.India stand no chance against full strength Australian side.Even in one of the tour if I remember correctly Australian A side completely annihilated Indian full strength side few years ago.
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India beat full strength Australia in India last time.
India beat full strength Australia in the world cup.
India beat weaker Australia side in 2018.

Weaker Australia beat weaker india side in India back in 2018. That was it.

That weaker Australia side actually had better odi specialist players like Khawaja and some other blokes like jhye who is a better odi bowler than Hazelwood.

But yea I agree India stand no chance now in Australia. Should just give up and go home. Only the mighty Pakistanis can show us how to beat Aussies in Aussie. We need to learn from them. Wonder what their secret is.
 
tyron_woodley said:
India beat full strength Australia in India last time.
India beat full strength Australia in the world cup.
India beat weaker Australia side in 2018.

Weaker Australia beat weaker india side in India back in 2018. That was it.

That weaker Australia side actually had better odi specialist players like Khawaja and some other blokes like jhye who is a better odi bowler than Hazelwood.

But yea I agree India stand no chance now in Australia. Should just give up and go home. Only the mighty Pakistanis can show us how to beat Aussies in Aussie. We need to learn from them. Wonder what their secret is.
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LOL.Why are you getting your knicker in a twist.It's my opinion man. I don't think India stand a chance and arrogant fans like you deserve to be humiliated.
 
choudhary6964 said:
3-0 to Australia.India stand no chance against full strength Australian side.Even in one of the tour if I remember correctly Australian A side completely annihilated Indian full strength side few years ago.
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India won 3 out of the last 4 ODIs against full strength Australia. What makes you think they stand no chance?

I agree Australia are favourites on home soil, but even without Rohit, we should still have a chance.
 
Mesozoic said:
India won 3 out of the last 4 ODIs against full strength Australia. What makes you think they stand no chance?

I agree Australia are favourites on home soil, but even without Rohit, we should still have a chance.
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Didn't India lost the ODI series early this year at home 1-2 Vs Australia?
 
[MENTION=151350]Mesozoic[/MENTION] [MENTION=139595]Ab Fan[/MENTION]
is this toughest LOI series in last 10 years?
 
King_Kohli said:
[MENTION=151350]Mesozoic[/MENTION] [MENTION=139595]Ab Fan[/MENTION]
is this toughest LOI series in last 10 years?
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Second toughest I think. That series in 2018 against England without Bumrah & Bhuvi was tougher IMO.
 
King_Kohli said:
[MENTION=151350]Mesozoic[/MENTION] [MENTION=139595]Ab Fan[/MENTION]
is this toughest LOI series in last 10 years?
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Not really. Both teams will probably rest a few players, particularly, in T20s. Aussies are beatable in LO format. Their M.O and fifth bowling option is weak.

Tests gonna be toughest since 2011 IMO.
 
Ab Fan said:
Not really. Both teams will probably rest a few players, particularly, in T20s. Aussies are beatable in LO format. Their M.O and fifth bowling option is weak.

Tests gonna be toughest since 2011 IMO.
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Who rested in ODI series from Aus?

We don't have part time blowers, all 5 bowlers has to complete their quota.
Aus has 7 bowling options, Stoinis and Maxwell can bowl few overs.
 
szrana007 said:
how many odi series, India lost in the last decade ? I only know about NZ this year and Pak in 2013.
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Many.

Home series against Australia last year.

England away 2018.

Australia away 2016.

South Africa at home 2015.

Bangladesh away 2015.

New Zealand away 2014

South Africa away 2013


Many more in the 2010-12 period.
 
3-0 to aussies as Ind are without rohit and Aus have the home advantage. Kohli too is'nt in great form.
But I wont be surprised if Ind win the series as they are a top ODI side but have a feeling they are lacking balance big time with Pandya not bowling.
 
Mesozoic said:
Many.

Home series against Australia last year.

England away 2018.

Australia away 2016.

South Africa at home 2015.

Bangladesh away 2015.

New Zealand away 2014

South Africa away 2013


Many more in the 2010-12 period.
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Aus home 2019 too
 
King_Kohli said:
Who rested in ODI series from Aus?

We don't have part time blowers, all 5 bowlers has to complete their quota.
Aus has 7 bowling options, Stoinis and Maxwell can bowl few overs.
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Their fifth bowler is Stoinis and Maxwell. That is weak. They don't have Mitchell Marsh I think so that can be advantage for us. We are surely an overall better LOI side than Australia but without Rohit, it is even steven.
 
Sanjay Manjarekar's ODI XI for 1st game( based on principle of playing specialists):-

Mayank
Dhawan
Kohli(c)
Iyer
Rahul(wkt)
Manish
Shami
Kuldeep
Chahal
Bumrah
Saini/Shardul

:))) :))) :)))
 
Ab Fan said:
Sanjay Manjarekar's ODI XI for 1st game( based on principle of playing specialists):-

Mayank
Dhawan
Kohli(c)
Iyer
Rahul(wkt)
Manish
Shami
Kuldeep
Chahal
Bumrah
Saini/Shardul

:))) :))) :)))
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This joker still hating Jadeja :((
 
choudhary6964 said:
LOL.Why are you getting your knicker in a twist.It's my opinion man. I don't think India stand a chance and arrogant fans like you deserve to be humiliated.
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Yes yes you are right. India have no chance at all. Let's just pack our bags and go home. Why waste time. leave it for world class teams like Pakistan to encounter Australia away.
India is a loser team. Pakistan is great team. Best team. God given talent. Too much phasst, spin power.
We have to watch tapes of Pakistani players to learn how to battle vs Aussies.
 
tyron_woodley said:
Yes yes you are right. India have no chance at all. Let's just pack our bags and go home. Why waste time. leave it for world class teams like Pakistan to encounter Australia away.
India is a loser team. Pakistan is great team. Best team. God given talent. Too much phasst, spin power.
We have to watch tapes of Pakistani players to learn how to battle vs Aussies.
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LOL keep blabbering man India ain't winning anything on this tour that's for sure.
 
I wonder if the Rohit vs Virat thing will escalate if India loses. Reminds me of Pak’s 90s environment.

For the team’s sake hopefully India takes the series (I’m predicting 2-1).
 
choudhary6964 said:
LOL keep blabbering man India ain't winning anything on this tour that's for sure.
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Yea I know that. We have been trained to lose from watching Pakistan play often. Desi follows desi. Hopefully we both pick up soon. We need you guys to show us the way. We are struggling at the moment after a tough IPL.
 
India with a very good chance of making it 0-1 in their favour!
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Early call ... I think Australia will beat India this tour in all formats convincingly ... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AUSvIND?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AUSvIND</a></p>— Michael Vaughan (@MichaelVaughan) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelVaughan/status/1332205688660107266?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
KoyoAli said:
You do have a history of making some big claims now that I think about it
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Mayank did he not smash Australia in tests? I referred to tests not odi.
He is still new in odi and has done pretty well. He laid good foundations. Could have been better but it's ok.
 
tyron_woodley said:
Mayank did he not smash Australia in tests? I referred to tests not odi.
He is still new in odi and has done pretty well. He laid good foundations. Could have been better but it's ok.
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He is older than Labu and I don't see him performing at this level. I do accept that he is a very good batsman. But he needs performances like Labu to be called on par with him.
 
Thunderbolt14 said:
I wonder if the Rohit vs Virat thing will escalate if India loses. Reminds me of Pak’s 90s environment.

For the team’s sake hopefully India takes the series (I’m predicting 2-1).
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Looks like I was horribly wrong. Still, I think India can win the last match of the series if they bowl better, really need Bumrah and Shami to take 1 more wicket each in the first 10 overs.
 
KoyoAli said:
He is older than Labu and I don't see him performing at this level. I do accept that he is a very good batsman. But he needs performances like Labu to be called on par with him.
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He performed vs Australia right off the couch vs their bowling in the last test series. He is a world class batsman. Labu performed well at home and in a couple of games back in England due to county exposure.

Mayank hasn't played in England or s.africa yet. Wait till he gets there and you shall see.

In odi's he is still new and labu isnt that good in odi either. Mayank has done his job in odi. He is fine.

Besides Mayank is an opener. Far far more difficult to open than bat in the middle order.
 
tyron_woodley said:
He performed vs Australia right off the couch vs their bowling in the last test series. He is a world class batsman. Labu performed well at home and in a couple of games back in England due to county exposure.

Mayank hasn't played in England or s.africa yet. Wait till he gets there and you shall see.

In odi's he is still new and labu isnt that good in odi either. Mayank has done his job in odi. He is fine.

Besides Mayank is an opener. Far far more difficult to open than bat in the middle order.
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Well I am talking about Rahul and a century in Aus is still an achievement but come on now, Yasir shah has one against the same bowling. Rahul needs to assert himself more or it can be an avg tour for him
 
KoyoAli said:
Well I am talking about Rahul and a century in Aus is still an achievement but come on now, Yasir shah has one against the same bowling. Rahul needs to assert himself more or it can be an avg tour for him
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Yea fair enough. Rahul with so much skill yet he is mentally weak sometimes. He needs to perform better in tests
 
Mayank is not a better batsman than KL Rahul and Labuschagne.

He is better than Iyer and Pandey but not as good as KLR. By the time their career ends, KLR will be a superior batsmen among them all.
 
Ab Fan said:
Mayank is not a better batsman than KL Rahul and Labuschagne.

He is better than Iyer and Pandey but not as good as KLR. By the time their career ends, KLR will be a superior batsmen among them all.
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I think Mayank is a much better limited overs batsman than Labuschagne.
 
Thunderbolt14 said:
I think Mayank is a much better limited overs batsman than Labuschagne.
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Way too early to compare.
Agzrwal will score against lesser attacks in India but he played first 5 ODI'S against NZ and Aus away.
Labu is less attacking but will be a more regular scorer.
 
Thunderbolt14 said:
I think Mayank is a much better limited overs batsman than Labuschagne.
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Depends - ODI game has changed so much that statistically you can't measure players from different position. In very limited scope (9 innings), Labus has a stats of 45+/90+ at No. 4, which is much better than Agarwal's 17+/103+ over 5 innings.

AUS was always going to win this series - question was 2-1 or 3-0. I think, unless IND wins the toss it's going to be 3-0 - even if they win the toss, it's 50-50 in 3rd ODI. A full strength AUS, in AUS is the most daunting task in cricket.
 
MMHS said:
Depends - ODI game has changed so much that statistically you can't measure players from different position. In very limited scope (9 innings), Labus has a stats of 45+/90+ at No. 4, which is much better than Agarwal's 17+/103+ over 5 innings.

AUS was always going to win this series - question was 2-1 or 3-0. I think, unless IND wins the toss it's going to be 3-0 - even if they win the toss, it's 50-50 in 3rd ODI. A full strength AUS, in AUS is the most daunting task in cricket.
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India aren't full strength though. Just saying. Not saying we can win for sure but it would be 60 40 if India were full strength.
 
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tyron_woodley said:
India aren't full strength though. Just saying. Not saying we can win for sure but it would be 60 40 if India were full strength.
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Who is missing? BKumar? It’s his great fortune for his reputation that he is missing this series and his 30 odd average against Australia didn’t get a brutal spank.
 
MMHS said:
Who is missing? BKumar? It’s his great fortune for his reputation that he is missing this series and his 30 odd average against Australia didn’t get a brutal spank.
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What about Rohit Sharma?
 
MMHS said:
Depends - ODI game has changed so much that statistically you can't measure players from different position. In very limited scope (9 innings), Labus has a stats of 45+/90+ at No. 4, which is much better than Agarwal's 17+/103+ over 5 innings.

AUS was always going to win this series - question was 2-1 or 3-0. I think, unless IND wins the toss it's going to be 3-0 - even if they win the toss, it's 50-50 in 3rd ODI. A full strength AUS, in AUS is the most daunting task in cricket.
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Like you said, ODI game has changed much - despite the lower average Mayank’s ability to accelerate is one that Labuschagne lacks.

Typically after a low sample size of innings, average is less indicative of quality but strike rate tells us a little more. For example, even Abid Ali is statistically best since Bradman and rivaling Steve Smith right now in Test cricket.

I expect Mayank’s average to rise and Labuschagne’s to fall from the stats you listed. But just from viewing both, Mayank comes across as relatively bigger in impact as a player which is what matters ultimately in ODI cricket especially in this age of flat tracks.
 
Thunderbolt14 said:
Like you said, ODI game has changed much - despite the lower average Mayank’s ability to accelerate is one that Labuschagne lacks.

Typically after a low sample size of innings, average is less indicative of quality but strike rate tells us a little more. For example, even Abid Ali is statistically best since Bradman and rivaling Steve Smith right now in Test cricket.

I expect Mayank’s average to rise and Labuschagne’s to fall from the stats you listed. But just from viewing both, Mayank comes across as relatively bigger in impact as a player which is what matters ultimately in ODI cricket especially in this age of flat tracks.
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I liked what I saw of Mayank but in the last match there was one glaring fault in Mayanks batting and that was his cover driving. Even when he drove Cummins for two boundaries his stance was very awkward and there was a tendency to ply the ball in the air. He can be easily found out. What I am amazed at is India gives chances to literally anyone except their best Talent. With Rohit gone, Gilll sitting out is a crime.
 
MMHS said:
Who is missing? BKumar? It’s his great fortune for his reputation that he is missing this series and his 30 odd average against Australia didn’t get a brutal spank.
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Bhuvi
Rohit Sharma

Bhuvi is good with the new ball and can cobtain better than Saini. We would have a very good chance to win. He also has finch'# number.
 
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