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Priyantha Kumara lynching: ATC awards death sentence to 6, hands life imprisonment to 9

Sad to see the usual crowd coming over to this thread to make cheap points against PM Imran Khan.

sad to see no one of the usual supporters of pti were able to make a post regarding why PTI gave support to TLP when it stood for dharnas against Pml N. Why PTI govt released Rizvi jr and why the group was allowed to be release without any charge.................

This is the result of PTI supporting TLP against Noon league. TLP has empowered itself to an extent that now PTI itself in govt cant control TLP.

Interestingly our PM said foreigners will come to work in Pakistan, but today we also witness how their dismiss would be in Pakistan aswell.

Pakistan is currently in negotiations with TTP aswell. Whenever a blast happens in Pakistan and TTP claims responsibility, offocurse people will bash this PTI govt as they have been in negotiations with TTP who are also being empowered by the fact that they find themselves to be able to negotiate with the govt even after killing many people for the many years.
 
live confession in front of reporters...

Just a few days ago with had Imran Khan saying that we should protect the honor of the Prophet.......

Why cant PTI fans see that when the leader makes such statements who have uneducated buffoons like this one in the video who thinks they are incharge of protecting the honor of the prophet to the extent that they will lit people to the ground.
 
sad to see no one of the usual supporters of pti were able to make a post regarding why PTI gave support to TLP when it stood for dharnas against Pml N. Why PTI govt released Rizvi jr and why the group was allowed to be release without any charge.................

This is the result of PTI supporting TLP against Noon league. TLP has empowered itself to an extent that now PTI itself in govt cant control TLP.

Interestingly our PM said foreigners will come to work in Pakistan, but today we also witness how their dismiss would be in Pakistan aswell.

Pakistan is currently in negotiations with TTP aswell. Whenever a blast happens in Pakistan and TTP claims responsibility, offocurse people will bash this PTI govt as they have been in negotiations with TTP who are also being empowered by the fact that they find themselves to be able to negotiate with the govt even after killing many people for the many years.

I think my point is proven.

A bunch of murderers do not define us and attempts to make cheap political points when we should all be united in our condemnation is very basic indeed.

Anyways I have no more to add except a dua to the Almighty that He grant our people the collective wisdom to move away from this darkness. Ameen.
 
Just a few days ago with had Imran Khan saying that we should protect the honor of the Prophet.......

Why cant PTI fans see that when the leader makes such statements who have uneducated buffoons like this one in the video who thinks they are incharge of protecting the honor of the prophet to the extent that they will lit people to the ground.

Protect the honour of our Prophet PBUH

Do you understand what he meant by that? Do you think people were waiting for Imran Khan to say this before they burnt another human alive?

Think please.
 
Imran Khan comes on the State Television , calling for all Muslim countries to get United and take action against the Cartoons that are published and other blasphemous acts that are committed in the West. Raises the issue of Blasphemy on various platforms to appease the Pakistani public.

Now many people think they also have the duty towards the Noble cause of taking action against Blasphemers.

Indirectly Imran Khan has emboldened the confidence of these Aashiq-e-Rasools.

exactly, but no one wants to listen to this.

i always here the argument that its the fault of the past govt. Well TLP empowerment is the result of PTI. PTI has empowered these goons to an extent that they can do anything.

This is like having Ya Rasullah poster pasted on a public stop sign. Anyone who removes it because it obscures the sign would be punished to death.

Reminds me a scene from PK, but those elements of religiously foolishness are found more in our country
 
Not sure what part of my post justified mob violence in India. I have time and again talked against hindu nationalism in India here and believe it's the worst thing to have occurred to my country.

My point is not really difficult to understand. When a state has laws that carry the death penalty for 'hurting religious sentiments' in the country, it is inevitable that things like this will happen again and again. Sure, repealing the laws will not make these type of incidents magically disappear, but the state having such laws only enables extremists like these.

I believe religion is a net negative influence in our region, but that's too radical a thought for the subcontinent. But at the very least, I think we should not be having laws like the blasphemy law or the cow slaughter laws if we're to have any hope of catching up with the rest of the world in the 21st century. But that's for the people of Pakistan to decide, not me. My only point is don't have the blasphemy law on one hand and pretend to get shocked when things like these happen.

Blasphemy law has constitutional legitimacy in Pakistan, so it's natural that it won't be seen by citizens in Pakistan , the same way it may be seen in India. In India the same horrific incident can very well happen though in the name of religion or caste but legally one won't be able to come and justify it.
 
exactly, but no one wants to listen to this.

i always here the argument that its the fault of the past govt. Well TLP empowerment is the result of PTI. PTI has empowered these goons to an extent that they can do anything.

This is like having Ya Rasullah poster pasted on a public stop sign. Anyone who removes it because it obscures the sign would be punished to death.

Reminds me a scene from PK, but those elements of religiously foolishness are found more in our country

PTI empowered them to come to power. Now they are getting bigger than PTI themselves.
 
I think my point is proven.

A bunch of murderers do not define us and attempts to make cheap political points when we should all be united in our condemnation is very basic indeed.

Anyways I have no more to add except a dua to the Almighty that He grant our people the collective wisdom to move away from this darkness. Ameen.

You might think its political points, but PTI empowering TLP is a fact.

United against what? The time went a united parliament or a country was needed is long gone now.

PTI should had never stood with TLP when TLP under Rizvi was charging down against PMLN because they tried to amend some laws that people shouldn't be forced to believe in the finality of the prophethood.

PTI was only looking at its own benefit at the time which was to result in the downfall of the govt.

PMLN was forced to accept the demands of TLP. Whenever you accept the demands of TLP you empower them. THese people realized that by taking Islamabad/Pindi hostage they can force anything. later on wehn PTI govt came in power they got the govt to bow down to their demands 3-4 times.

Interestingly in the 2021 dharna they did, PPP and PMLN made sure that no one give support to TLP. Why couldn't PTI do the same back in 2017?

TLP is empowered to the extent that supporters of Rizvi post posters of him and posters saying Labaik or Islamic scripture in places that are not required. You try to tackle them they will respond in a way which we saw today.

The current govt will be blamed for this
 
Most are spectator.
In sub-continent, in such incident, most become spectator instead of stopping the act of barbarism.

No they don't, it's one thing is to be a spectator to a tamaasha of domestic squabble, here they are killing and putting a man on fire. Each and every spectator should be thrown behind bars in this case.
 
Protect the honour of our Prophet PBUH

Do you understand what he meant by that? Do you think people were waiting for Imran Khan to say this before they burnt another human alive?

Think please.

It was a statement that was never needed.

If you dig into the Pakistani history, this is what our leaders do. When they are losing public support, use the religion card and you can win a few people.

Im a supporter of ZAB, but ZAB also made this same mistake. 50 years later, we still have not learned from our mistakes. Mixing religion with politics ends badly.

Pakistani awaam is uneducated, for them anything could be blasphemy.
 
You don't get what I'm really trying to say do you..There was a poor man called Mohammed Akhlaq who once got lynched by hindutva fundamentalists in UP because they accused him of eating beef. Turns out he wasn't really eating beef, and was only eating mutton, but that doesn't matter.

Saying the mob shouldn't be taking justice into their own hands and that only the state should punish people after carrying out detailed investigations is like saying the hindutva mob shouldn't have killed Akhlaq but only the state should have carried out justice and ascertained whether he was eating beef or mutton. The fact that people think we need a law to punish people by death because their religious sentiments are hurt in the 21st century is beyond cave man mentality. It shouldn't really matter if Akhlaq was eating beef or mutton, even if intentionally caused blasphemy against the Hindu religion (which he did not btw), he shouldn't be punishable by death according to the laws and any state or 'legal system' that has laws and provisions to do so is no different in mentality from the extremist mob who killed Akhlaq 6 years back or this poor Sri Lankan man today.

It should be a pretty basic thing to understand.

Let's do stone killing, burning man alive, and hand-chopping but only after the state has conducted an investigation of hurting religious sentiments. That would make it all right.
 
This is not a religious crowd in that sense. They are basically aam admi in the street with tshirts ans jeans, that's the level of extremism and radicalization.

Rubbish.

You do not judge people by what they wear.

Here is one of Pakistan's most respected Islamic scholar's tweet.


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This is no good.
There’s a law in place if blasphemy was committed.

More so, TLP has disowned the event. Rightly so.
 
Yes we can blame the city of Sialkot, people's literacy levels and even Imran going soft on TLP all we want, but that would merely be looking away from the root cause of the issue. The fact of the matter is that blasphemy is punishable by death according to the constitution of Pakistan. The mob merely carried out what's written in the constitution, but in unlawful manner.

I posted in an another thread on blasphemy laws that no Pakistani poltician can ever dare to change the status of the blasphemy laws in the country and anyone who dares to do so would be publicly assassinated. Just two days later, this happens. Until the root cause is tackled, this issue won't really die down. But for that to happen, you would have to get acceptance from the majority.

The root cause is not going to be resolved here in near future. You are one level away from the root cause.
 
RAWALPINDI: Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Qamar Javed Bajwa on Friday condemned the cold-blooded murder of a Sri Lankan national in a Sialkot factory and directed all-out support to civil administration to arrest the perpetrators, ARY NEWS reported quoting Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR).

The ISPR quoted the army chief as saying that the cold-blooded murder of Sri Lankan- Priyantha Kumara- by a mob at Sialkot is extremely condemnable and shameful.

“Such extrajudicial vigilantism cannot be condoned at any cost,” the military’s media wing said.

COAS General Qamar Javed Bajwa further directed all-out support to the civil administration to arrest perpetrators of the heinous crime and bring them to justice.

Earlier, Prime Minister Imran Khan termed the burning alive of a Sri Lankan manager at a Sialkot factory by a mob as a shameful day for Pakistan and announced that he was personally overseeing the probe.

In a message from his personal Twitter handle, the prime minister said that the horrific vigilante attack on a factory in Sialkot and the burning alive of a Sri Lankan manager is a day of shame for Pakistan.

“I am overseeing the investigations and let there be no mistake all those responsible will be punished with full severity of the law,” he said while announcing that arrests are in progress.

The condemnation and orders of strict action came hours after private factory employees tortured their foreign manager to death and set his body on fire in Sialkot on Friday.

The tragic incident took place at a factory located at Sialkot’s Wazirabad Road, where a foreign factory manager was brutally tortured by the workers with sticks.

This was not it, the enraged people showed no mercy and set the severely injured foreign manager on fire, as a result of which he was burnt to death.

https://arynews.tv/coas-qamar-bajwa-directs-all-out-support-to-arrest-sialkot-perpetrators/
 
Horrific. RIP to the man.

The same punishment should be dished out to those responsible.
 
New Delhi, Dec 3 The Sri Lanka government said on Friday that it expects that Pakistan authorities will take required action to investigate and ensure justice in an alleged incident of torture and burning of the body of a Sri Lankan national in Sialkot earlier in the day, the Daily Mirror reported.

"The Foreign Ministry has received reports of an alleged incident of torture and burning of body of a Sri Lankan in Sialkot," Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Sugeeshwara Gunaratna said.

He also said that the Sri Lanka High Commission in Islamabad is in the process of verifying the details of the incident from the Pakistan authorities, the report said.

According to Pakistan media, a mob in Sialkot on Friday tortured the General Manager of Rajko Industries in Sialkot to death over blasphemy allegations, before burning his body.

Rajko Industries is the company that had made the cricket jersey and gear for the Pakistan team for the T20 World Cup, the report said.

Sialkot district police officer Umar Saeed Malik identified the victim as Priyantha Kumara.

Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan said the "horrific, vigilante attack" on the

https://english.lokmat.com/politics...ice-for-citizen-tortured-to-death-in-sialkot/
 
This is no good.
There’s a law in place if blasphemy was committed.

More so, TLP has disowned the event. Rightly so.

This is what your TLP represents, disowning this incident won't change the fact that they were demanding the death penalty for a Christian woman.
 
Rubbish.

You do not judge people by what they wear.

Here is one of Pakistan's most respected Islamic scholar's tweet.


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That's what not I meant actually that to judge people on their dresses. But it is also true that certain generalizations exist for good reasons. Will you be able to judge from their dresses that they can do such a horrible act and still claim legitimacy with a straight fact in front of the camera? This is not a gun wielding Jihadi group who have gone through special trainings to kill people. They are really part of the aam admi fabric from the looks of it.
 
No they don't, it's one thing is to be a spectator to a tamaasha of domestic squabble, here they are killing and putting a man on fire. Each and every spectator should be thrown behind bars in this case.

I do not do well with emotional comments nor I am capable of responding to them well.

Asking for throwing each and every spectator behind the bas is probably the most emotional asking to do by any government.

Wisdom is needed, out of all 3 major political party, only PTI government is some what able to achieve it.


Another general theme is blaming PTI government for the rise of TLP. TLP didn't come to being over night. Pakistani will not and should not go on killing spree, no government unless until it is an totalitarian government, Pakistan isn't. Any Pakistani government will negotiate until it can no longer, no matter what counter emotional response you get by anyone or how they play with words to support their emotional comment.

Then, this narrative, the Pakistani awam is uneducated, so the PM of Pakistan should not make "correct/right religious comments", that will be interpreted wrongly by the masses of uneducated. Instead of electing government that will try to improve the quality of education and enhanced the wisdom of the mass, again, the only government had taken any initiative on that is, PTI, the PM refrain to say anything about religion - again, it is an emotional response.

Many are here to only score political points, one individual was upset PM, IK, had not twitted, we all knew, IK would, this incident is just un-ignorable, but he jumped the gun too quick because that person wanted to score quick political points.

Pakistan has issue, that has to do with blasphemy laws and TLP, violent approach is not the answer, at least for now.
 
This is not a religious crowd in that sense. They are basically aam admi in the street with tshirts ans jeans, that's the level of extremism and radicalization.

If we were to judge people on their attire then every Indian is a beef lyncher and mosque destroyer.

Less generalization will help.
 
A Sri Lankan factory manager in Pakistan has been beaten to death and set ablaze by a mob, police confirmed, in an incident local media reported was linked to alleged blasphemy.

The incident took place in Sialkot, about 200km (125 miles) southeast of the capital Islamabad, on Friday.

Few issues are as galvanising in Pakistan as blasphemy, and even the slightest suggestion of an insult to Islam can supercharge protests and incite lynchings.

Prime Minister Imran Khan said he was overseeing the investigation into “the horrific vigilante attack”, as he called it “a day of shame for Pakistan”.

“Let there be no mistake all those responsible will be punished with full severity of the law,” he tweeted.

A police official in Sialkot, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the case, said investigators believed the attackers had accused the manager of blasphemy for tearing down a poster with Islamic holy verses.

Several gruesome video clips shared on social media showed a mob beating the prone victim while chanting slogans against blasphemy.

Other clips showed his body set ablaze, as well as the overturned wreckage of what was said to be his car.

Many in the mob made no attempt to hide their identity and some took selfies in front of the burning corpse.

Punjab government spokesman Hassaan Khawar told reporters in Lahore that police have already arrested 50 people.

“CCTV footage is being carefully looked into as we have been directed to complete the inquiry within 48 hours,” he said.

The slogans chanted in the social media videos were the same used by supporters of the Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP) – an anti-blasphemy party.

The TLP has in the past paralysed the country with protests, including an anti-France campaign after Paris-based satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo last year republished cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad.

Mob killings over accusations of blasphemy have been frequent in Pakistan, where the crime can carry the death sentence.

Tahir Ashrafi, Khan’s adviser for interfaith harmony, condemned the killers in a recorded video statement shared on social media.

“It is a barbaric act and against Islam’s teaching,” he said.

A senior Pakistan official told AFP news agency that Islamabad had been in touch with Sri Lankan diplomats over the incident “and have assured them that all those involved in the heinous crime will be brought to justice”.

Rights groups say accusations of blasphemy can often be wielded to settle personal vendettas, with minorities largely the target.

“Today’s event underscores the urgency with which an environment that enables abuse and puts lives at risk must be rectified,” Amnesty International South Asia said in a tweet under the hashtag #Sialkot, which was trending in Pakistan.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021...y-manager-lynched-and-set-on-fire-in-pakistan
 
This is no good.
There’s a law in place if blasphemy was committed.

More so, TLP has disowned the event. Rightly so.

lol, TLP has disowned the event.... :)

Watch the video of the killers they are chanting the slogan of TLP.

Even if TLP wasnt directly involved, their mantra is infused in the brains of these people. TLP is directly responsible for this because of the ideas they have preached that anyone can be killed by the public that has committed blasphemy
 
lol, TLP has disowned the event.... :)

Watch the video of the killers they are chanting the slogan of TLP.

Even if TLP wasnt directly involved, their mantra is infused in the brains of these people. TLP is directly responsible for this because of the ideas they have preached that anyone can be killed by the public that has committed blasphemy

And so if someone chants TLP slogans, we can say for a fact that they are card carrying members of the TLP?
 
And so if someone chants TLP slogans, we can say for a fact that they are card carrying members of the TLP?

Neo Nazis dont have anything to do with the Nazi govt that existed in the past. Yet neo nazis have taken heavy influence from the Nazi govt that existed. So the group that has infused that ideology would obviously be critisized.


You know what the basis of TLP is? The party doesnt exist to run the govt. They made this party to protect the honor of the Prophet only. La Baik Ya Rasul Allah is actually become the tarana of TLP.

Ashiq e Rasool vigilantes get their ideological conformation from TLP. One doesnt have to be a member of a particular group to be dangerous.
 
It should be a pretty basic thing to understand.

Let's do stone killing, burning man alive, and hand-chopping but only after the state has conducted an investigation of hurting religious sentiments. That would make it all right.

This is human rights minister, Shireen Mazari's statement:

"Horrific & condemnable act of the mob attack on factory & murder of Sri Lankan manager in Sialkot. Mob violence cannot be acceptable under any circumstance as state has laws to deal with all offences. Punjab govt's action must & will be firm and unambiguous."

Basically saying, "Guys, why do you take the laws into your own hands. The state has the laws to deal with these kind of offences and the state can punish them with death sentence if convicted".
 
If we were to judge people on their attire then every Indian is a beef lyncher and mosque destroyer.

Less generalization will help.

You can think that way if you want to. It's the failure of the Indian government to take prompt measures against such barbaric act and set a precedence for deterrence for such incidents. It's also a failure of certain section of Indian civil society to remain mum and not do enough against such acts when it happens before their eyes. It is also a fact that hate culture is being nurtured in the Indian society by the political masters for decades for their own vested interests.

With all that said it is also a fact the net number of mosques have only gone up in India to cater to the growing minority population with each passing year. The same can't be said about religious minorities in India's neighborhood. Ofcourse India is not a perfect country but I hope you get the point. We can only make things better if we acknowledge the current state.
 
You can think that way if you want to. It's the failure of the Indian government to take prompt measures against such barbaric act and set a precedence for deterrence for such incidents. It's also a failure of certain section of Indian civil society to remain mum and not do enough against such acts when it happens before their eyes. It is also a fact that hate culture is being nurtured in the Indian society by the political masters for decades for their own vested interests.

With all that said it is also a fact the net number of mosques have only gone up in India to cater to the growing minority population with each passing year. The same can't be said about religious minorities in India's neighborhood. Ofcourse India is not a perfect country but I hope you get the point. We can only make things better if we acknowledge the current state.

Why does every Indian resorts to numbers when they are directed to look within themselves when they make a generalize comment.

If we were to judge people on their attire then every Indian is a beef lyncher and mosque destroyer.

Above comment was to your comment about someone attire, a statement, itself, is generalizing someone based on what they wear or how they appear. - Every beef lyncher in India is almost wearing western clothes.

lol at comparing, not competing with you, just told you, you have made a generalize statement, which has more to do with your environment because you associate extremism with someone who wear "shalwar kameez and a topi".
 
Absolutely disgraceful.

Embarrassing really and gives out such a bad image of a country that is trying to improve its standing around the world.

Where was the security?

I mean what is wrong with people !
 
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Why does every Indian resorts to numbers when they are directed to look within themselves when they make a generalize comment.



Above comment was to your comment about someone attire, a statement, itself, is generalizing someone based on what they wear or how they appear. - Every beef lyncher in India is almost wearing western clothes.

lol at comparing, not competing with you, just told you, you have made a generalize statement, which has more to do with your environment because you associate extremism with someone who wear "shalwar kameez and a topi".

No , I don't. Radicalization does not have a dress code , that I agree.

My point was that these people looks to be a regular crowd on the street and not just some trained militant group who follows specific decorum which usually is a fringe of the society.
 
Arresting people after the crime is not a solution and does not solve anything. Even if these people are sentenced to death, so what? It will not bring back the victim.

The interesting thing to note is that these perpetrators will happily die and accept capital punishment because they will consider themselves as Jihadis who sacrificed their lives defending Islam.

What we require is a change in mindset so that these hate crimes are not committed in the first place. Once they are committed, it doesn’t matter if the government can take action or not.

Unfortunately, this mindset cannot be be changed when you have a PM who openly supports and provides patronage to extremist elements and is heavily influenced by sectarianism.

Imran has completely destroyed Pakistan’s global image and is rightfully viewed as a supporter of extremism.

Errrrr, nope. Pakistan's "global image" has been one of an absolute shitpit since the 70s tbh.
 
There should be an international boycott on Pakistani sporting goods for this incident. I know nothing will come out of it but a message will be sent to the extremist elements in Pakistan that there are consequences for things like that.
 
Imran Khan comes on the State Television , calling for all Muslim countries to get United and take action against the Cartoons that are published and other blasphemous acts that are committed in the West. Raises the issue of Blasphemy on various platforms to appease the Pakistani public.

Now many people think they also have the duty towards the Noble cause of taking action against Blasphemers.

Indirectly Imran Khan has emboldened the confidence of these Aashiq-e-Rasools.

Where did IK state to go out and lynch people to death?!
 
No , I don't. Radicalization does not have a dress code , that I agree.

My point was that these people looks to be a regular crowd on the street and not just some trained militant group who follows specific decorum which usually is a fringe of the society.

As an Indian (if i'm correct) that shouldn't surprise you.
 
There should be an international boycott on Pakistani sporting goods for this incident. I know nothing will come out of it but a message will be sent to the extremist elements in Pakistan that there are consequences for things like that.

Why such boycott be placed only on a 3rd world countries? when the first world kill internationally?
 
I wish IMF or some other country could somehow arm twist Pakistan into implementing Police Reforms. The fact that Punjab police stood their and watched is ridiculous. They are now posting images of the culprits caught on twitter and fb to show how effective Punjab Police are, yet they were not able to stop the actual crime happening infront of them.

Just 4-5 days ago similar events took place in KPK. The police had to protect the accused by hiding him. The public ending up engulfing the police station. Yet, even in that case police showed itself to be weak as people dont respect them at all.
 
I feel sick.

This has brought back the trauma when in 2010s the two young brothers were lynched to death. I remember coming across that as a young boy and thinking how can humans be so numb to do something like that?

This is a dark day for Pakistan. I am ashamed to be a Pakistani. This is not religion. The family must be suffering - to see their love one’s soul being destroyed, let alone body.
 
His name was Priyantha Kumara. He worked at Rajco Industries.

Interestingly some news reports are mentioning that Rajco industries were the company that supplied the Pakistan cricket kit in the recent world t20. This is not some small company.
 
Why such boycott be placed only on a 3rd world countries? when the first world kill internationally?

Not saying Pakistan should be the only country for such a boycott. I think other countries should also be boycotted for their atrocious human rights records.
 
As an Indian (if i'm correct) that shouldn't surprise you.

Reading your posts, you have been made to believe some horrible things about India. It is up to you to find out the truth. I can for certainly say that India is much more liberal society than Pakistan, even for Indian Muslims and other minority religions.
 
His name was Priyantha Kumara. He worked at Rajco Industries.

Interestingly some news reports are mentioning that Rajco industries were the company that supplied the Pakistan cricket kit in the recent world t20. This is not some small company.

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He had been with the company for 8 years.
 
This is sad and outrageous.

It is time to see where Imran Khan and Pakistani justice stand. All the culprits should be publicly hanged.

Animals.

That is why We ordained for the Children of Israel that whoever takes a life—unless as a punishment for murder or mischief in the land—it will be as if they killed all of humanity; and whoever saves a life, it will be as if they saved all of humanity.1 ˹Although˺ Our messengers already came to them with clear proofs, many of them still transgressed afterwards through the land.

https://quran.com/5/32
 
News like this would also unnerve the Chinese who have many managers working in Pakistan. Plus will spook FDI inflows in the country. Bad all-round!
 
News like this would also unnerve the Chinese who have many managers working in Pakistan. Plus will spook FDI inflows in the country. Bad all-round!

this is also a big concern to. The chinese workers that worked on the hydroplants some haven't come back due to the blast in the bus that killed some chinese workers.

One thing i fear is that from this event, countries that have issue against the China that could emerge as a super power from the BRI would try to tackle CPEC by using such actions in future.
 
So what exactly did the guy allegedly do?
 
Imran khan on Twitter :

“ The horrific vigilante attack on factory in Sialkot & the burning alive of Sri Lankan manager is a day of shame for Pakistan. I am overseeing the investigations & let there be no mistake all those responsible will be punished with full severity of the law. Arrests are in progress”


He actually called this a vigilante attack which means he doesn’t consider the victim innocent . This is the PM of pakistan. Shame if pakistan cricket fraternity thinks like this . There should be no law for blasphemy . Having a law indicates you don’t believe your faith is strong
 
I wish IMF or some other country could somehow arm twist Pakistan into implementing Police Reforms. The fact that Punjab police stood their and watched is ridiculous. They are now posting images of the culprits caught on twitter and fb to show how effective Punjab Police are, yet they were not able to stop the actual crime happening infront of them.

Just 4-5 days ago similar events took place in KPK. The police had to protect the accused by hiding him. The public ending up engulfing the police station. Yet, even in that case police showed itself to be weak as people dont respect them at all.
Mister Einstien thanks for your wish, you cant control mob even in Western countries, dig and research, there are plenty of videos on internet.
Sad incident once again humanity failed in Sialkot.
 
my mind is numb from last many hours after reading this incident. my religion is taken as hostage by uneducated people. my country name is draged on social media. I want govt to make JIT on this issue. Involve intel agencies and all law enforcement on this. investigate this incident and punish the culprits with iron fist.
 
Mister Einstien thanks for your wish, you cant control mob even in Western countries, dig and research, there are plenty of videos on internet.
Sad incident once again humanity failed in Sialkot.

Plz, i am tored of this argument.

A mob can never dare to form infront of the pakistan army. Even the tlp vigilantes freighten off when army men clear the road.

The reason is pakistan army or the military police has been able to garner that image where people are required to respect them. Our police force on the other hand is treated as a joke as no one takes their authority seriously on front. The way you stand, the way you wear your uniform, the way you draw your weapon, your body language it has the affect.
Provincial police in this fountry is an utter joke

This wasnt a 1000+ people mob. No where in the world do mobs go around killing people, it happens in country where your police force is a joke.
 
my mind is numb from last many hours after reading this incident. my religion is taken as hostage by uneducated people. my country name is draged on social media. I want govt to make JIT on this issue. Involve intel agencies and all law enforcement on this. investigate this incident and punish the culprits with iron fist.

Bhai sahab your government is the puppeteer behind this
 
It should be blasphemous to even think ripping TLP stickers of the wall is 'Blasphemy' if we are going to go by Pakistan's archaic blasphemy laws.

Blasphemy is insult to God, prophets and it's sacred objects so if these idiots think TLP falls under that umbrella then that is blasphemous itself and should punished accordingly. Will serve them right
 
It should be blasphemous to even think ripping TLP stickers of the wall is 'Blasphemy' if we are going to go by Pakistan's archaic blasphemy laws.

Blasphemy is insult to God, prophets and it's sacred objects so if these idiots think TLP falls under that umbrella then that is blasphemous itself and should punished accordingly. Will serve them right

This is what you get when you create a man made blasphemy law and not let God deal with it
 
I wonder how peaceful the soul is of "Mardemomin" in the afterlife? Where is this intolerant society heading? Thank you lord for pulling me out of this paradise of intolerant butchers.
 
Imran khan on Twitter :

“ The horrific vigilante attack on factory in Sialkot & the burning alive of Sri Lankan manager is a day of shame for Pakistan. I am overseeing the investigations & let there be no mistake all those responsible will be punished with full severity of the law. Arrests are in progress”


He actually called this a vigilante attack which means he doesn’t consider the victim innocent . This is the PM of pakistan. Shame if pakistan cricket fraternity thinks like this . There should be no law for blasphemy . Having a law indicates you don’t believe your faith is strong

I wanted to say the same but in a different thread.

Him using the word vigilante puts light on the thought process as well.
 
Just reading the news story today I’m totally disgusted, sickened and ashamed that this is happening in Pakistan.

if Imran Khan doesn’t take the most strict against these perpetrators than I will be totally done with him for good.

There is a reason I have kept saying for years that these ridiculous blasphemy laws do not work in an uneducated country like Pakistan because there are too many morons there who will always misuse it against minorities.
 
I'm sick to my stomach with this. Our beloved Prophet PBUH would never tolerate or condone this heinous action. He would go the other way and bestow his love on that unfortunate person.

Disgusting people and disgusting country! I'm sorry but this is too much.
 
good people do good stuff, evil people do evil stuff, but it takes religion to make good people do evil stuff and think its good.

people can make the usual comments about religion doesn't teach this, but its obvious that its easy enough to convince people like those in the video that it does.

and whilst i never thought id agree with [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] on anything, he is bang on abt imran, his appeasement of the religious right is one of the most dangerous socio-democratic trends in pakistan since zias time. the day he kicked out atif mian from the economic committee for being an ahmedi was a massive red flag that showd what was gonna happen.
 
It was a statement that was never needed.

If you dig into the Pakistani history, this is what our leaders do. When they are losing public support, use the religion card and you can win a few people.

Im a supporter of ZAB, but ZAB also made this same mistake. 50 years later, we still have not learned from our mistakes. Mixing religion with politics ends badly.

Pakistani awaam is uneducated, for them anything could be blasphemy.

I don’t always agree with you but on this you are 100% right.

Appeasement never works with the religious right wing, you give them an inch they will take a mile and that is what has happened in Pakistan over the last few decades in particular.

As they say - You reap what you sow.
 
No , I don't. Radicalization does not have a dress code , that I agree.

My point was that these people looks to be a regular crowd on the street and not just some trained militant group who follows specific decorum which usually is a fringe of the society.

bro, Pakistani extremist are not your typical bearded kids anymore. Infact, educated students also fall in that group.

I have been going to a CSS academy where the teachers would give us lectures about how West is evil and is involved in spreading wrong info and destabilizing Pakistan. I have sat in a class where students who have had 16 years of education laugh or have 0 emotions or sentiments about how jews were massacred in the holocaust. Basically the instructor had started off the lecture by describing the "evil zionist" and what they plan to do in jerusalam.
Same lecture I have attended in a Canadian Highschool and the emotions were different. I have learned how the hate for west has been developed to an extent that we teach history is that fashion
 
I'm actually scared to even go to pakistan

Because I don't believe in grave worshipping
Or in innovations like milad ul nabi which have no basis in islam or any proof sahaba celebrated birthdays or were at graves asking for help .

Would I be classified as a gustakh by these tlp and lynched.

Even the term labbaik ya rassolullah is an innovation there is no term like this used by sahaba.

These barelvis have stolen a tasbih from hajj , labbaik al huma labbaik and made up a term of labbaik ya rasoolullah .

Where is the evidence in hadith or in duas tasbih of this being ever used by the sahaba , the arabs, or the four imams sunni schools of fiqh.
Did imam abu hanifa ever recite labbaik ya rasooullah.

Also for khadim rizvi where is there evidence where you are allowed to curse and swear did the anbiya or sahaba ever use such course language or start shouting or screaming in their sermons
 
You can't reason with people who are hell bent in killing you for whatever reason. They will not even give the time for a proper investigation. Such mass murderers just make up a reason to kill a "kafir" such is the hatred in their hearts for another human being. Even Muslim's are not safe from them let alone non-Muslims, this is what they have learnt in extremist Madrassa's preached by ignorant people. This is not gonna end when the PM justifies rape blaming the victims for their dress code.

Never mind Rasool Ullah(SAW) who these thugs claim to represent the Quaid Jinnah and Sir Allama Iqbal would be turning in their graves seeing what we have done to their dream that was Pakistan. Neither of these two greats were ever interested in Madrassa's or extremism. You would never see the founding fathers of the country support such extremism. These killers are no better then the likes of Modi or Yogi Adityanath. I am disgusted!
 
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I know i wont be able to sleep tonight. I feel so much anger in my heart towards these thugs.

If anyone hears of a way to assist the victim's family through donations and like please do let me know.
 
It's 2021, going on 2022, and we still have these kind of uncivilised atrocities going on! In a country where most of us have some sort of connection. Let that sink in.
 
I know i wont be able to sleep tonight. I feel so much anger in my heart towards these thugs.

If anyone hears of a way to assist the victim's family through donations and like please do let me know.

My thoughts exactly.

This case has caused more upset than any others in recent time.

I keep wondering what would have been going through that poor mans head.

Pakistan has unfortunately become a hell hole.
 
Just imagine being that poor Sri Lankan.

You are just there to work in Pakistan. And suddenly you get hounded by hundreds of barbarians who go after you because they get so emotional over a ridiculous law that gets misused time and time again.

I always believed religion should be a private matter but even more so in an uneducated country like Pakistan that has ridiculous religious laws protecting the majority and make the minority easy targets.

Let’s not forget Pak has a pathetic Police service that also panders to either the rich or the right wing religious bigots. Of course they were nowhere to be seen even when the poor guys body was being burnt beyond recognition.

Let’s see what action is taken in the next few days but I have little faith in Imran Khan taking decisive action that will make a meaningful difference against these type of yobs.
 
Hold up!!! what?

How is that any different than someone other than law enforcer murdering a suspected murderer on the streets? still a crime and that person will end up in jail for murder according to the law unless it is a bollywood movie.

It's "hold on", not "hold up". This is the second time you have used this phrase wrongly in the last week.

"Hold up" means something that is causing a delay.

"Hold on" means the person should think again about what he said.
 
Just imagine being that poor Sri Lankan.

You are just there to work in Pakistan. And suddenly you get hounded by hundreds of barbarians who go after you because they get so emotional over a ridiculous law that gets misused time and time again.

I always believed religion should be a private matter but even more so in an uneducated country like Pakistan that has ridiculous religious laws protecting the majority and make the minority easy targets.

Let’s not forget Pak has a pathetic Police service that also panders to either the rich or the right wing religious bigots. Of course they were nowhere to be seen even when the poor guys body was being burnt beyond recognition.

Let’s see what action is taken in the next few days but I have little faith in Imran Khan taking decisive action that will make a meaningful difference against these type of yobs.

Just seen video footage where some police are casually trying to move some of the mob back while the body burns in the background going 'chalo shabash shabash'.

This is getting even more depressing. I'm logging off.
 
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It's "hold on", not "hold up". This is the second time you have used this phrase wrongly in the last week.

"Hold up" means something that is causing a delay.

"Hold on" means the person should think again about what he said.

Appreciate the correction. Still learning English, was advised to debate in person and online to improve it.

Do you have anything to add to counter, or concur?

Here is an advice, next time, instead of reminding how many time a person was wrong, just correct it politely, that would appear more genuine.
 
Just seen video footage where some police are casually trying to move some of the mob back while the body burns in the background going 'chalo shabash shabash'.

This is getting even more depressing. I'm logging off.

Totally depressing.

And what the Hell is going to happen or change after such a shameful episode ?

Probably nothing, that’s why I will log off too.
 
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Just seen video footage where some police are casually trying to move some of the mob back while the body burns in the background going 'chalo shabash shabash'.

This is getting even more depressing. I'm logging off.

Just seen his family photo circulating on social media with his wife and 6 year old son, I can’t sleep tonight thats for sure.
Feeling Depressing and helpless,blood is boiling with anger so so Depressing 😞
 
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