Products of Favoritism and Nepotism

[saadsahabjee]

Kindly add name of a player who you think do no deserve to be a part of National Squad.

List as follows mine

Asad Shafiq

Test Avg 39
Odi Avg 24

Azhar Ali
Test Avg 42
Odi Avg 36

Umer Amin
His name keeps popping up every now and then from nowhere , i do not know how.

Test avg 12
Odi avg 18

Wahab Riaz
One SPell Wonder

Test bowling avg 35
Odi bowling avg 35

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[Forum363]

In the history of cricket, I am yet to see a player who has benefited from this more than Kamran Akmal.

Please can someone give an example of a worse batsman to ever play consistently for Pakistan in our cricketing history? And yes he’s a keeper too .... a keeper who has dropped hundreds of catches and deliberately underperformed (eg the Sydney Test).

Yet so many fans and journalists continued to justify his selection.

 

[saadsahabjee]

Kamran akmal

Odi matches 157
Odi Average 26.00

Test Matches 53
Test Average 31.00

 

[ElRaja]

In the history of cricket, I am yet to see a player who has benefited from this more than Kamran Akmal.

Please can someone give an example of a worse batsman to ever play consistently for Pakistan in our cricketing history? And yes he’s a keeper too .... a keeper who has dropped hundreds of catches and deliberately underperformed (eg the Sydney Test).

Yet so many fans and journalists continued to justify his selection.

kamran post 2005 tour of england was a completely different to the player pre 2005. he was a very good wicket keeper, and his hundred against india in mohali was a brilliant knock for a youngster. hes also continued to perform on domestic level. theres lot to say about his deterioration as a player, but i dont think his selection was nepotistic imo.

 

[gazza619]

I really really really dont like the word nepotism.

Its all silly talk. We all do nepotism. Where there is a gathering of humans, there is nepotism. Its in our house, in our neighbourhood, in our mosques, churches, offices, on this forum, you name the place, and its there.

Nepotism is not an issue, its a reality. The real issue is the reaction or shall i say overreaction of certain people towards nepotism and this worries me the most.

 

[coy0607]

the poster child for this thread would be Hafeez - performances are simply irrelevant when judging Hafeez

 

[gazza619]

Kamran akmal

Odi matches 157
Odi Average 26.00

Test Matches 53
Test Average 31.00

The average is OK as his strike rate was always good. The real worry was the gazillion drop catches!

 

[Forum363]

kamran post 2005 tour of england was a completely different to the player pre 2005. he was a very good wicket keeper, and his hundred against india in mohali was a brilliant knock for a youngster. hes also continued to perform on domestic level. theres lot to say about his deterioration as a player, but i dont think his selection was nepotistic imo.

He just got lucky at the beginning of his career. It’s not like he was setting the world on fire. Pre-2005, he was average, and because he was young he could have taken his game to another level etc. However he then became terrible. So an overall crap career. But even if we agree that he was some very talented player at the beginning..

How many matches did he play after 2005? Why was he selected so much despite performing so badly if it wasn’t for nepotism?

His performance at domestic level shows that’s his limit. He was never good enough for international cricket. But whereas the other domestic quality players such as awais Zia, Imran father, Faisal iqbal got little chances (despite having connections themselves and being far better than Kami) Kamraan got a hell of a lot more games then them.

No other explanation except he had some connections.

 

[Forum363]

The average is OK as his strike rate was always good. The real worry was the gazillion drop catches!

Ah yes. A ground-breaking strike rate of 84. Even in that era it was average. Especially when you’re scoring 20 runs a match.

 

[Rayyman]

Umar Amin should definitely play T20Is

He was the best batsman in the National T20 Cup, but he gets no opportunities in PSL.

Pakistan’s batting order in the Aus. tour was:
Fakhar
Babar
Rizwan
Haris
Iftikhar
Khushdil

He’s definitely good enough to get in.

Azhar and Asad have been pretty good Test players. Azhar is trash now, but Asad has been consistent in the last 1/2 years now.

Agreed on Wahab. He has been good for a few spells here and there but inconsistent. He himself admitted to it. In T20Is he is a great bowler tho.

 

[ElRaja]

He just got lucky at the beginning of his career. It’s not like he was setting the world on fire. Pre-2005, he was average, and because he was young he could have taken his game to another level etc. However he then became terrible. So an overall crap career. But even if we agree that he was some very talented player at the beginning..

How many matches did he play after 2005? Why was he selected so much despite performing so badly if it wasn’t for nepotism?

His performance at domestic level shows that’s his limit. He was never good enough for international cricket. But whereas the other domestic quality players such as awais Zia, Imran father, Faisal iqbal got little chances (despite having connections themselves and being far better than Kami) Kamraan got a hell of a lot more games then them.

No other explanation except he had some connections.

there was no credible alternative, and he averaged 50+ in pak, and around 40 from tests 20 to 45, in his last 6 or so tests he completely fell away and was dropped. hes also the only pak keeper with two 150+ scores, and non of his major scores were against minnows, and his hundred in lahore was one of the greatest test knocks by a pak batsmen considering the situation and result.

im no fan of kami, but he wasnt a nepotistic selection, he was simply the best of a bad bunch.

 

[Markhor]

Shoaib Malik.

35 Tests, 287 ODIs, and 113 T20Is.

ODI avg of 30 in Aus, 13 in Eng and 10 in NZ. Still made it to the 2019 World Cup squad, and is likely to play in next year's World T20.

 

[MMHS]

No MoHa - really?

 

[Zaz]

Kami like most have said was a player with great potential and showed around 2005 great ability too with bat and gloves He was originally in there on merit

Its the fact he deteriorated so unbelievably when he shouldve kicked on which most people just couldnt understand

He shouldnt have played post 2009 The fact that he did was because there were no credible alternatives and pakistan always thought wrongly he would hopefully turn the corner and become the player he was supposed to be

 

[Varun]

From India:

Rohan Gavaskar
Stuart Binny

 

[Greenstorm]

More than half of current squad in England.

 

[Extra_Cover]

Quite a few from Pakistan off late. The list below are those cricketers who have spent at least a decade in international circuit, yet when they take the field the opposition is never really intimidated by their presence. The list includes recent cricketers only.
- Azhar Ali
- Asad Shafiq
- Shoaib Malik
- Mohammad Hafeez
- Sarfraz Ahmad
- Asif Ali
- Anwar Ali
- Wahab Riaz
- Umar Gul (except for the 2009-2010 phase)

Recently retired / Inactive:
- Shahid Afridi
- Younus Khan (ODI)
- Salman Butt
- Misbah (ODI)

I will not put Ahmad Shahzad and Umar Akmal in these categories as they were never favourites, in fact their media game and fan following was so strong that it pushed the selectors to select them previously.

 

[saadsahabjee]

Ahmed Shahzad


The king of Nepotism
Imran Farhat

 

[saadsahabjee]

The average is OK as his strike rate was always good. The real worry was the gazillion drop catches!

Odis
Jos butler avg 41
Ms Dhoni avg 51
Mushfiq avg 37
De cock avg 45

Kamran's average is mediocre at best.

 

[saadsahabjee]

Add mohammad rizwan as well.