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Proposed 2019-2023 FTP: Pakistan to play 121 matches across all formats [Update Post #190]

You need to avoid posting fakenews if you wish to be taken seriously. "Poor, poor cricket team" compared to its neighbors??? Neighbors is plural but obviously you are referring to Pakistan and not SL or Bangladesh. India beat Pakistan the first Test series they played in 1952/53. And it was ranked #1 for a period of 15 months starting April 1973.

Exactly and Pakistan was a terrible team in the 1960s...

Pakistan however did better than India 1954 to 1962 and post 1985 to 2000.
 
You need to avoid posting fakenews if you wish to be taken seriously. "Poor, poor cricket team" compared to its neighbors??? Neighbors is plural but obviously you are referring to Pakistan and not SL or Bangladesh. India beat Pakistan the first Test series they played in 1952/53. And it was ranked #1 for a period of 15 months starting April 1973.

My post was for a different purpose, not to disrespect IND, you should have understood that from the post. It's a 5 country universe and 3 series in 45 years .... I know about the ranking, you don't need to post that. In 1952, IND won at home 2-1, to a side playing first series, 4 years after independence - you can boast for that for sure. Till 1990s, if you notice it was WI & PAK that toured AUS almost every year either for Test series or WSC, compared to IND - that's for the cricket on field, not the ranking table.

Any way, I would appreciate if you kindly keep my entire post intact in future, if you are to refer it - so that the context is understood, cut piece never represents a good taste.
 
I can answer your question with examples, you might not like that though.

Let me tell you a story from history. British-India (BI) was given Test status in 1934, by 1948 that BI was scratched to 2 parts and both part got Test status by 1951. <b>Now, IND was a poor, poor cricket team, compared to it's neighbors</b> and two established cricket power was hardly interested to invite IND till 1980s. It was 1952, then 1967, then 1971, 1974, 1979 in UK and for AUS it was even worse - 1948, 1968, 1978 - 3 tours in 45 years.

The reason was simple - IND wasn't a crowd puller for hosting cricket. Now, what should BCCI do - one route is to create PSL & National T20; another route is to make substitutes, developed own team and close the gap. IND didn't play SAF, played PAK in 3 series before 1961 (then 17 years gap), while NZ was even poorer team that time. So, only option to play quality cricket (& develop) was WI - 1948, 1951, 1958, 1961, 1966, 1970, 1974, 1976, 1978 ..... and those were BIG, BIG series - 5/6 Tests, 10-12 FC matches for 4 months tour.

PAK is facing a similar situation (for whom, lets not go to that) - and PCB has burnt BCB's boat, didn't respond to SAF's call, former PCB chairman had called Poms cheat, and don't play WI for more than 2 Tests & 3 ODI .......... Add to that fixing issues, doping ...... obviously only avenue left in SRL & ZIM.

Regarding, sweet time, I actually feel it's PCB that takes sweeter time than anyone else.

Here is your entire post. It doesn't in any way absolve you of posting fakenews. It quite clearly says "IND was a poor, poor cricket team, compared to it's neighbors" which remains crap context notwithstanding.

If a cricketing nation does not want to invite the #1 ranked team, then it is not due to the poor quality of the #1 ranked team.
 
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Here is your entire post. It doesn't in any way absolve you of posting fakenews. It quite clearly says "IND was a poor, poor cricket team, compared to it's neighbors" which remains crap context notwithstanding.

If a cricketing nation does not want to invite the #1 ranked team, then it is not due to the poor quality of the #1 ranked team.

You are trying to sell that No. 1 too much, it's not needed - PAK went to AUS/NZ as No. 1 team, then Ian Chappel made that comment...... go & check India's tour record to AUS in 1948 & 1968 - you should have realized why it's 3 series in 45 years, that too the 3rd one (1978) was against Packer reject AUS - ACB needed a team to counter Kerry Packer, so they called IND for a 5 Test series under Bob Simpson, who retired almost 10 years back.
 
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IND's market potential was bigger in cricket even in 1960s, 70s, 80s - but if you notice, from 1970, PAK toured AUS in 1971, 1976, 1979, 1981, 1984 (5 Test), 1986 (Perth Challenge Cup), 1988 (WSC), 1990.

IND toured 1978, 1981, 1986 and finally 1991 (5 Test). In only 3 WSC as part of Test tour, never as the 3rd team; neither for the Perth Challenge Cup (AUS, WI, PAK, ENG).

And this is after that Rank 1 of 1973 ......


please don't try to make every other meaning of every post - there is a fine line between nationalism and jingoism. I am here not to humiliate anyone or glorify anyone - just presenting an argument.
 
You need to avoid posting fakenews if you wish to be taken seriously. "Poor, poor cricket team" compared to its neighbors??? Neighbors is plural but obviously you are referring to Pakistan and not SL or Bangladesh. India beat Pakistan the first Test series they played in 1952/53. And it was ranked #1 for a period of 15 months starting April 1973.

India had beaten WI and England away in early 70s.They were a far bettter team than "neighbours".But then again the poster doesnt rate sunil gavaskar.
 
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IND's market potential was bigger in cricket even in 1960s, 70s, 80s - but if you notice, from 1970, PAK toured AUS in 1971, 1976, 1979, 1981, 1984 (5 Test), 1986 (Perth Challenge Cup), 1988 (WSC), 1990.

IND toured 1978, 1981, 1986 and finally 1991 (5 Test). In only 3 WSC as part of Test tour, never as the 3rd team; neither for the Perth Challenge Cup (AUS, WI, PAK, ENG).

And this is after that Rank 1 of 1973 ......


please don't try to make every other meaning of every post - there is a fine line between nationalism and jingoism. I am here not to humiliate anyone or glorify anyone - just presenting an argument.

India's market was not big in 1970s and 80s as it was a closed economy.There were only a hanful of private companies abd even fewer foreign ones.You need to read about Indian economy before making such comments.

Secondly you dont need to sell being no.1 Being no.1 is in itself an achievement.

India didnot tour Australia because Aussies were not keen on return tours as they used to get murdered in India. Greg Chappel and Dennis Lillee never played in India, wonder why.

Its well known what you intend to do when you post about India or Indian players.
 
India's market was not big in 1970s and 80s as it was a closed economy.There were only a hanful of private companies abd even fewer foreign ones.You need to read about Indian economy before making such comments.

Secondly you dont need to sell being no.1 Being no.1 is in itself an achievement.

India didnot tour Australia because Aussies were not keen on return tours as they used to get murdered in India. Greg Chappel and Dennis Lillee never played in India, wonder why.

Its well known what you intend to do when you post about India or Indian players.

AUS toured IND 4 times between 1952 to 1970s,

Won 2-0 in 1956, Won 2-1 in 1959, drew 1-1 in 1966, won 3-1 in 1969 ..... it's called murder, and for that they were scared to tour IND.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...team=6;template=results;type=team;view=series

It's well known about your intention whenever you post in PP - this time you murdered it though.
 
You are trying to sell that No. 1 too much, it's not needed - PAK went to AUS/NZ as No. 1 team, then Ian Chappel made that comment...... go & check India's tour record to AUS in 1948 & 1968 - you should have realized why it's 3 series in 45 years, that too the 3rd one (1978) was against Packer reject AUS - ACB needed a team to counter Kerry Packer, so they called IND for a 5 Test series under Bob Simpson, who retired almost 10 years back.

Not only do you post fakenews, but you follow up with confused posts.

I am not contesting that India played very little in Australia etc. the first few decades after independence. You are trying to create the impression that I disagreed when I did not.

Just admit that "IND was a poor, poor cricket team, compared to it's neighbors" is fake and you may get some respect. Instead of trying to change the topic.

Read [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]'s post below to understand why India and Australia played little in the first 3 decades. Australian pacers knew they would be defeated on Indian pitches by Gavaskar.
 
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India's market was not big in 1970s and 80s as it was a closed economy.There were only a hanful of private companies abd even fewer foreign ones.You need to read about Indian economy before making such comments.

Secondly you dont need to sell being no.1 Being no.1 is in itself an achievement.

India didnot tour Australia because Aussies were not keen on return tours as they used to get murdered in India. Greg Chappel and Dennis Lillee never played in India, wonder why.

Its well known what you intend to do when you post about India or Indian players.

By the way, when you are in mood, please do educate me about the impact of India's close economy on ACB's accounts, when it comes to invite IND in their country to play cricket. I need to learn .............
 
Not only do you post fakenews, but you follow up with confused posts.

I am not contesting that India played very little in Australia etc. the first few decades after independence. You are trying to create the impression that I disagreed when I did not.

Just admit that "IND was a poor, poor cricket team, compared to it's neighbors" is fake and you may get some respect. Instead of trying to change the topic.

Read [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]'s post below to understand why India and Australia played little in the first 3 decades.

I read it, it's a murder case.
 
AUS toured IND 4 times between 1952 to 1970s,

Won 2-0 in 1956, Won 2-1 in 1959, drew 1-1 in 1966, won 3-1 in 1969 ..... it's called murder, and for that they were scared to tour IND.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...team=6;template=results;type=team;view=series

It's well known about your intention whenever you post in PP - this time you murdered it though.

More fakenews from you. You conveniently leave out the 1970s, when India won 4 Tests against Australia to Australia's 3 Tests. Obviously [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] is talking about the 1970s and not the 1950s and 1960s as he speaks of Chappel and Lillie.
 
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IND's market potential was bigger in cricket even in 1960s, 70s, 80s - but if you notice, from 1970, PAK toured AUS in 1971, 1976, 1979, 1981, 1984 (5 Test), 1986 (Perth Challenge Cup), 1988 (WSC), 1990.

IND toured 1978, 1981, 1986 and finally 1991 (5 Test). In only 3 WSC as part of Test tour, never as the 3rd team; neither for the Perth Challenge Cup (AUS, WI, PAK, ENG).

And this is after that Rank 1 of 1973 ......


please don't try to make every other meaning of every post - there is a fine line between nationalism and jingoism. <b> I am here not to humiliate anyone or glorify anyone - just presenting an argument.</b>

"IND was a poor, poor cricket team, compared to it's neighbors" would have been an argument if you were able to back it up with data. The data says it is fakenews.
 
More fakenews from you. You conveniently leave out the 1970s, when India won 4 Tests against Australia to Australia's 3 Tests. Obviously [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] is talking about the 1970s and not the 1950s and 1960s as he speaks of Chappel and Lillie.

Sorry bro, have to disappoint again - after 1969, AUS came in 1979, with a team without Lillee, Thompson & Chappels - and lost 2-0; their first loss in IND. Those 4 Test wins explanation is given early as well, without convenience - Packer reject AUS, led by Simpson. And, I did include that 1978 tor as well - that's why 3 tours in 45 years ........ easily could have posted 2 Series in 38 .........

May be attempt to murder case this time.
 
This thread had been a nightmare for me - whatever I wrote, backfired :)

Anyway, my intention wasn't to hurt anyone, neither to prove something - would appreciate if it ends here.
 
Sorry bro, have to disappoint again - after 1969, AUS came in 1979, with a team without Lillee, Thompson & Chappels - and lost 2-0; their first loss in IND. Those 4 Test wins explanation is given early as well, without convenience - Packer reject AUS, led by Simpson. And, I did include that 1978 tor as well - that's why 3 tours in 45 years ........ easily could have posted 2 Series in 38 .........

May be attempt to murder case this time.

The logic of your posts is difficult to follow, probably due to their lack.
[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] said something simple, Lillee and (Greg) Chappell were afraid of touring India. You counter by producing the results of 1950s and 1960s, when these gentlemen were not in the Australian team.

You keep mentioning WSC, but that did not start till 1977. India was the #1 ranked team in 1973-74, which gives us at least a 5-year time period during the 1970s when India had a very strong team and Australia (with Lillee and Chappell in the team) chose not to tour for reasons other than WSC. So you have given no reasonable argument against Joshila's view that Lillee and Chappell did not tour India because they were afraid.
 
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This thread had been a nightmare for me - whatever I wrote, backfired :)

Anyway, my intention wasn't to hurt anyone, neither to prove something - would appreciate if it ends here.

Think before you say things like "poor, poor cricket team" due to your bias rather than facts and you will be spared nightmares.
 
AUS toured IND 4 times between 1952 to 1970s,

Won 2-0 in 1956, Won 2-1 in 1959, drew 1-1 in 1966, won 3-1 in 1969 ..... it's called murder, and for that they were scared to tour IND.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...team=6;template=results;type=team;view=series

It's well known about your intention whenever you post in PP - this time you murdered it though.

but if you notice, from 1970, PAK toured AUS in 1971, 1976, 1979, 1981, 1984 (5 Test), 1986 (Perth Challenge Cup), 1988 (WSC), 1990.

IND toured 1978, 1981, 1986 and finally 1991 (5 Test). In only 3 WSC as part of Test tour, never as the 3rd team; neither for the Perth Challenge Cup (AUS, WI, PAK, ENG).

And this is after that Rank 1 of 1973 ....
You talk about post 1970s period and then post Aussie wins pre 1970s.


You post about tours from 1970s and then talk about aussie wins pre 1970s.

There is a reason why Australia has won only 1 series in India in 48years.

My intention is clear, i dont lie and i dont pretend.
 
The logic of your posts is difficult to follow, probably due to their lack.
[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] said something simple, Lillee and (Greg) Chappell were afraid of touring India. You counter by producing the results of 1950s and 1960s, when these gentlemen were not in the Australian team.

You keep mentioning WSC, but that did not start till 1977. India was the #1 ranked team in 1973-74, which gives us at least a 5-year time period when India had a very strong team and Australia chose not to tour for reasons other than WSC. So you have given no reasonable argument against Joshila's view that Lillee and Chappell did not tour India because they were afraid.

Why dragging it? CJ tried to out smart taking bullish about murder, obviously not for that few months in late 1970s & early 80s - I just posted one link. My post started from 1950 to 1980 ... For the sake of saying, AUS toured IND in 1986, and drew that series as well with one of their historical weakest/inexperienced sides and you are talking about Lille, Chappel didn't tour IND to save their life (murder case).

This is really frustrating that, some of you really can drag something until it ends bitter. This has become a common practice that few of you'll sermon each other by tagging in a post and then scratch each others' back -
please don't do this with me - if I start that, I can call half of PP to do lip service for me, and you won't like that, which I also hate to do.
 
By the way, when you are in mood, please do educate me about the impact of India's close economy on ACB's accounts, when it comes to invite IND in their country to play cricket. I need to learn .............

When you are in mood look up why India touring any country is financially beneficial for that country.Why does a board earn more from a tour by india than any other team.Who pays the money?
 
When you are in mood look up why India touring any country is financially beneficial for that country.Why does a board earn more from a tour by india than any other team.Who pays the money?

Thanks, perfectly explained.

Till late 70s, it was the gate money and local sponsors for Radio/tv and title sponsor like B&H, which was the majority contributor of the coffer - that tells that it's the local crowd and radio listener that paid the money before Kerry Packer taught them what are other avenues ............... it also tells why 3 tours in 45 years ..............
 
Thanks, perfectly explained.

Till late 70s, it was the gate money and local sponsors for Radio/tv and title sponsor like B&H, which was the majority contributor of the coffer - that tells that it's the local crowd and radio listener that paid the money before Kerry Packer taught them what are other avenues ............... it also tells why 3 tours in 45 years ..............

Please do read what was the original issue between Packer and ACB.
 
Thanks, perfectly explained.

Till late 70s, it was the gate money and local sponsors for Radio/tv and title sponsor like B&H, which was the majority contributor of the coffer - that tells that it's the local crowd and radio listener that paid the money before Kerry Packer taught them what are other avenues ............... it also tells why 3 tours in 45 years ..............

Bcci gave money to tv channel to broadcast live(5 minute late) on tv at those time.
 
tell me more, about 1950s, 1960s, 1970s issues ....

You claimed Indian team was poor poor.It was not.

You claimed Indian market potential was great in 60s 70s, it was not.

You post results from pre 1970s and then talk about India not touring Australia as much as Pakistan in 70s and 80s.

As [MENTION=142162]Napa[/MENTION] said, you lie and then you try to cover and then you get confused.
 
You claimed Indian team was poor poor.It was not.

You claimed Indian market potential was great in 60s 70s, it was not.

You post results from pre 1970s and then talk about India not touring Australia as much as Pakistan in 70s and 80s.

As [MENTION=142162]Napa[/MENTION] said, you lie and then you try to cover and then you get confused.

Only truth remains is that AUS didn't tour IND being scared of murder, rest are confusing indeed.
 
PCB better line up matches against Netherlands, Namibia and others.
 
Reports suggest that there has been a revision in favour of Pakistan

The new [unconfirmed] picture looks like this:

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Pakistan and South Africa should schedule another test series between them given that they only play 30 and 32 tests respectively.

Perhaps a two test series in Pakistan? Most South Africans seem okay with touring the country.
 
Windies getting so many games! Good stuff.

Pakistan need to get more Tests in seriously.
 
There have been improvement but there still needs to be more. I still feel like there can be more Tests and ODI's. More series with South Africa and New Zealand would be nice
 
Our 8 t20s have been further cut...thats good news. Increase tests now.
Ideally I want 44-48 test 70 odis.
 
The two test matches increase is against Zimbabwe lol. Nothing to be happy about.
 
Need to add a few more tests to that list. In 4 years, we should be playing at a minimum 9-10 tests annually.
 
PCB gains big in updated Future Tours Programme

The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) made considerable gains in its scheduling for a new Future Tours Programme (FTP) during a workshop held in Singapore earlier this month. Last week it was reported on a version of the FTP that Full Members took into the workshop, held on December 7 and 8. By the end of the meeting members produced an updated FTP in which there were minor adjustments to the total commitments of most members. The biggest gains from that meeting, however, were for the PCB. The earlier FTP showed 104 internationals scheduled for Pakistan between May 2019 and May 2023. The updated version has them playing 121 internationals – they have two Tests, five ODIs and 10 T20Is more than in the earlier FTP. That total puts them on a more even footing with countries such as Australia (123), Bangladesh (124), South Africa (122) and New Zealand (119). It is not yet clear who the extra matches have been arranged against. The FTP will likely undergo further tweaks – though not significant ones – as members aim to present a final version at an ICC board meeting in February 2018.

Not included in the PCB’s totals is a bilateral arrangement with Cricket West Indies (CWI), which will mean more limited-overs games in the four-year period. The PCB is also thought to be involved in discussions with members for limited-overs tri-series in the next cycle. Add to that Asia Cup matches (which are not included in the FTP total) plus the obligatory ICC tournaments and they could end up not far below the number of internationals they are scheduled to end with in the current FTP (from May 2014 to May 2019): 183. There is also the pending matter of 19 matches against India, from an earlier agreement, the fate of which rests on an ICC dispute resolution process. The PCB will play 30 Tests in the new FTP, a number that officials say could have been higher had there not been three ICC tournaments in the cycle that run through the Pakistan home season, as well as an expanded six-week window for the Pakistan Super League (PSL). The World T20 in Australia in 2020 is scheduled for October-November that year, as is the Champions Trophy in India the following year (though neither tournament, traditionally, lasts that long), and the 2023 World Cup in India is across February-March. In fact, the latter will require a shifting of the PSL window for that year, likely to be brought forward.

In any case, the PCB has been eager to emphasise that its engagements in the new FTP will be about quality of contest rather than quantity. Opponents have been classified on the basis of the value they provide to a broadcast deal – by the PCB’s working, 46 percent of their total home games in the next FTP will be against high-value opponents (Australia, South Africa, England and Bangladesh), 30 percent against mid-value opponents such as New Zealand and West Indies and the remaining against low-value teams such as Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe, Ireland and Afghanistan. Nearly half of Pakistan’s away matches, it calculates, are against high-value opponents.

The four-year FTP is built around two cycles of a two-year Test league, with nine teams in it. Each team is required to play six series over two years, with the top-two sides meeting in a Test championship final in June 2021. The calendar also includes a two-year ODI league of 13 teams, which will lead into qualification for the 2023 World Cup. The Test league starts with the new FTP in May 2019, but the ODI league begins the following year (because of pre-existing commitments between sides that run from the current FTP into the start of the new one).

https://dailytimes.com.pk/163141/pcb-gains-big-updated-future-tours-programme/
 
As PCB has agreement with WICB (not part of this FTP) of series every year for the next five years so we are gonna see more ODIs and T20s than FTP currently presents. Also more series will be there for Pakistan other than FTP.
 
Is Bangladesh better test team than Pakistan and NZ?

Pak will still end up playing more with series outside the FTP, also its about the quality of opposition, Pak is getting some good series which will generate better revenue.
 
Most of BD matches are against Zim,Ireland etc.

In fact England and Australia have not even invited Bangladesh for a test series.

Bangladesh plays a higher % of their matches vs tier 2, but not most of their matches. 9 Tests out of 35 are scheduled against ZIM, IRE, and AFG. Thats a fair distribution IMO.

But the current numbers for BD (35) and PAK (30) should be reduced by 4 Tests because PCB are almost certain to refuse to play Bangladesh given the frosty relations between the two boards. The forfeited points will surely be useful for BD.
 
Bangladesh plays a higher % of their matches vs tier 2, but not most of their matches. 9 Tests out of 35 are scheduled against ZIM, IRE, and AFG. Thats a fair distribution IMO.

But the current numbers for BD (35) and PAK (30) should be reduced by 4 Tests because PCB are almost certain to refuse to play Bangladesh given the frosty relations between the two boards. The forfeited points will surely be useful for BD.

Pakistan wont have an issue as long as it's within the league..
Pakistan's test matches will surely increase since we will arrange a bilateral 3 match test series vs Sri Lanka to bring cricket back to Pakistan.
I think around total Pakistan might play 40 test matches...keeping in mind that we also increase test matches versus Ireland and Zimbabwe by one.
 
Pakistan wont have an issue as long as it's within the league..
Pakistan's test matches will surely increase since we will arrange a bilateral 3 match test series vs Sri Lanka to bring cricket back to Pakistan.
I think around total Pakistan might play 40 test matches...keeping in mind that we also increase test matches versus Ireland and Zimbabwe by one.

But BCB will refuse to play in Pakistan and the PCB will then refuse to play in BD. Hence both series are likely to be cancelled. Of course I hope they are played rather than cancelled.
 
PCB might have to accept FTP without India matches

The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) might find itself on the crossroads regarding its case against the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI), where they are demanding compensation from the latter for not honouring the Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) between the two.

The PCB filed a case against India in the International Cricket Council’s (ICC) arbitration committee after the BCCI failed to play even one series against Pakistan in accordance with the MoU signed between the two boards that had stipulated six bilateral series over a period of eight years.

However, the members of the arbitration committee haven’t been finalised yet, which puts the PCB in a tight spot where they might have to sign the Future Tours Programme (FTP) without the matches against India included in it.

Earlier in September last year, a workshop to finalise the five-year FTP from 2019 to 2023 saw the first draft of the FTP. The draft is to be presented during the yearly ICC meeting in June, where it will be signed by all member boards.

The proposed FTP saw international matches moved backwards or forwards to make room for the Indian Premier League (IPL), while India were also granted series against the other top-ranked nations.

On the contrary, Pakistan were given significantly less ODIs, 38, to which the PCB proposed an increase in the number of matches. The PCB, in its own proposed schedule, asked for at least 45 ODIs. An increase in T20Is and Tests will see Pakistan move for 121 international matches from the proposed 104.

And if the ICC Dispute Resolution Committee forces the BCCI to honour the MoU, 24 more matches will be added to Pakistan’s schedule over five years. Meanwhile, the PCB may also receive a huge amount as compensation from the BCCI if that is the case.


PCB’s stance over FTP

The PCB, after looking at the first draft of the proposed FTP, took a stance against it in the likely scenario that India’s matches are not added to the schedule.

The Pakistan board filed a case against India seeking compensation and sources claim the BCCI has sent its reply to the ICC as well.

However, it is believed that the case can take up to three to six months to resolve, which means Pakistan will come under increased pressure to sign the FTP in June without the issue having been resolved.

It won’t be easy for Pakistan to not sign the FTP if the case against India hasn’t reached a conclusion before June, since the PCB’s disapproval will also affect the teams with which the Men in Green are scheduled to play from 2019 to 2023.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1636646/7-pcb-might-accept-ftp-without-india-matches/
 
Anybody who would have thought any other outcome might be living in fool's paradise and there are some people [MENTION=2501]Savak[/MENTION] who still think they can squeeze money from BCCI are living in the same place as well.
 
Anybody who would have thought any other outcome might be living in fool's paradise and there are some people [MENTION=2501]Savak[/MENTION] who still think they can squeeze money from BCCI are living in the same place as well.

It's not about thinking that we can squeeze money out of BCCI...It's aboyt standing up for your rights
PCB is the only body in Asia that can stand up to BCCI the other boards have no guts.

What will we lose if the decision goes against us?
Indian lobby is already against PCB so things wont get much worse.
 
It's not about thinking that we can squeeze money out of BCCI...It's aboyt standing up for your rights
PCB is the only body in Asia that can stand up to BCCI the other boards have no guts.

What will we lose if the decision goes against us?
Indian lobby is already against PCB so things wont get much worse.

Money? The case isn't being fought for free.
 
It's not about thinking that we can squeeze money out of BCCI...It's aboyt standing up for your rights
PCB is the only body in Asia that can stand up to BCCI the other boards have no guts.

What will we lose if the decision goes against us?
Indian lobby is already against PCB so things wont get much worse.

1) PCB is the only body we are not playing against hence the only body being starved of cash flowing from India, so why would any other board stand against us?

2) As [MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION] has already answered your question and as far as worse is concerned there is a saying in India "paani mein rehke magarmach se bair nahi karte" (You cannot live in Rome and fight with Pope.).
 
KARACHI: Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) Chairman Najam Sethi said Wednesday that International Cricket Council (ICC) held back its 2019-2023 Future Tours Programme (FTP) until a decision is taken on the pending India-Pakistan bilateral series case filed by the PCB in the dispute resolution committee.

“The entire FTP has been put on hold due to this case. It is significant to recall that we signed the FTP subject to the outcome of the dispute,” Sethi told media, recalling that the PCB had signed a MoU with Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) in 2014 for six bilateral series during the cycle of 2015-2023.

The PCB chief said the case proceedings have started and the dispute resolution committee has asked for witnesses from both the sides who were involved in signing the 2014 MoU.

ICC will first decide whether India is legally responsible for not honouring the MoU and then decide to what extent India is liable, he informed.

In December 2017, the PCB had stated it would not sign the revised structure of cricket competitions unless there was a valid agreement from India in the bilateral cricket series with Pakistan.

“FTP should be adjusted to reflect the decision of ICC dispute resolution panel,” PCB said in a statement.

The new FTP issued late last year had more Test matches allocated to Bangladesh (35), Sri Lanka (29) and West Indies (29) than to Pakistan (28). The proposal mentioned no series between Pakistan and India despite the 2014 MoU.

Meanwhile, the PCB head told that there will be a change in the schedule for home series against West Indies team in Lahore. The three-match T20I series will now be played on April 1, 2 and 4 instead of March 29, 30 and April 1.

https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/20...-on-india-pakistan-bilateral-series-case-pcb/
 
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1) PCB is the only body we are not playing against hence the only body being starved of cash flowing from India, so why would any other board stand against us?

2) As [MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION] has already answered your question and as far as worse is concerned there is a saying in India "paani mein rehke magarmach se bair nahi karte" (You cannot live in Rome and fight with Pope.).

Ha ha well said. When will PCB and co will understand this basic fact and move on :facepalm:
 
when is the Tri series in USA ???? between Pakistan , West Indies and Bangladesh
 
KARACHI: Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) Chairman Najam Sethi said Wednesday that International Cricket Council (ICC) held back its 2019-2023 Future Tours Programme (FTP) until a decision is taken on the pending India-Pakistan bilateral series case filed by the PCB in the dispute resolution committee.

“The entire FTP has been put on hold due to this case. It is significant to recall that we signed the FTP subject to the outcome of the dispute,” Sethi told media, recalling that the PCB had signed a MoU with Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) in 2014 for six bilateral series during the cycle of 2015-2023.

The PCB chief said the case proceedings have started and the dispute resolution committee has asked for witnesses from both the sides who were involved in signing the 2014 MoU.

ICC will first decide whether India is legally responsible for not honouring the MoU and then decide to what extent India is liable, he informed.

In December 2017, the PCB had stated it would not sign the revised structure of cricket competitions unless there was a valid agreement from India in the bilateral cricket series with Pakistan.

“FTP should be adjusted to reflect the decision of ICC dispute resolution panel,” PCB said in a statement.

The new FTP issued late last year had more Test matches allocated to Bangladesh (35), Sri Lanka (29) and West Indies (29) than to Pakistan (28). The proposal mentioned no series between Pakistan and India despite the 2014 MoU.

Meanwhile, the PCB head told that there will be a change in the schedule for home series against West Indies team in Lahore. The three-match T20I series will now be played on April 1, 2 and 4 instead of March 29, 30 and April 1.

https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/20...-on-india-pakistan-bilateral-series-case-pcb/

The MOU was signed because Pak agreed to Big 3. If there is no Big 3, why will there be an agreement? I don't get it.
 
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