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Protests in Pakistan over Ayatollah Ali Khamenei's death leave multiple dead

Bhaijaan said:
We faced a lot of persecution in this country and yet we gave our everything for this nation.

Our nation couldn’t even honour us Shia peoples biggest icon Dr Abdul Salam despite receiving Nobel prize Sunni extremists dug his grave up. Despite all this we always bled for Pakistan.
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@Freelancer bhai if this was older moderated PP you would had been banned.
 
a) Become independent and not rely on being in pockets of those that can dictate its sovereignty or forcefully make it fight their battles (by association or deal with backlash like the GCC countries are experiencing)

b) have an actual regular human being and not a bootlicker in power who can use soft power and intelligent diplomacy that respect Pak’s sovereignty but still build connections with other nations without selling out.

It’s a balance of not antagonizing yourself against the whole world but also not selling out.
 
Bhaijaan said:
We faced a lot of persecution in this country and yet we gave our everything for this nation.

Our nation couldn’t even honour us Shia peoples biggest icon Dr Abdul Salam despite receiving Nobel prize Sunni extremists dug his grave up. Despite all this we always bled for Pakistan.
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Bas kar de yaar ye ajay devgan from Deewangee impersonation.
 
I think with f22 and f35...if the country doesn't have nuclear submarines or second strike ability .the only thing protecting it is number of nukes, ability to hide their location and actual number, delivery systems and options, and preventing intelligence compromise.

If the location and number is precisely known...stealth planes can easily take them out followed by massive missile attacks to cripple air force and missile sites. Its easier said than done but hiding the exact number and location is the key.
 
Suleiman said:
a) Become independent and not rely on being in pockets of those that can dictate its sovereignty or forcefully make it fight their battles (by association or deal with backlash like the GCC countries are experiencing)

b) have an actual regular human being and not a bootlicker in power who can use soft power and intelligent diplomacy that respect Pak’s sovereignty but still build connections with other nations without selling out.

It’s a balance of not antagonizing yourself against the whole world but also not selling out.
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Agree.

This should be the approach considering today's complex geopolitics.
 
Also it helps that your primary foe is a dunce who crashes planes left right and centre even during peacetime, leave alone war.
 
Putting the military capabilities aside as I think there is no power on earth that can match a combined Israeli/US attack for firepower and technological capability.

Iran has overall performed quite well ( from a purely military geopolitical perspective) It is literally surrounded by US bases and hostile Arab nations but kept the Arabs on their knees for the past few years.

But it has no real allies ( apart from a transactional relationship with Russia) .
However in my eyes the main lesson is that oppressive and inflexible power structures give rise to dissatisfaction that can be very easily penetrated by foreign intelligence agencies and render security essentially pointless as insiders will give away all the secrets.
 
Our nation isn't a true sovereign republic.
The military+political elite is operating as a dictatorship and looking after its own intterests rather than that of the people in general. There is no vision of a stable democratic and economically prosperous Pakistan. With that in mind it hardly matters to the common public if in future our nukes are taken our or our regimes are changed. Our situation is that of slaves. Change of masters hardly makes any difference to us. 50% of our population is below poverty line. What Pakistaniyat or pride do you expect from the people?
 
More than 35 People's killed in Pakistan, jabki unka war se koi lena dena ni. .

Itne to USA , Israel, UAE, Oman, Bahrain, Kuwait, Saudi, Qatar jo war main hai vha bhi casuality ni hui.

Idiots hai sab ke sab.
 
Varun said:
So for Pakistani Shias, Khamenei > Imran Khan?
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You can often find Sunni extremists blasting Shia mosques and killing people in Pakistan. However, Shias in Pakistan do not usually show aggression against the government; instead, they protest for Khamenei.
For Shias, Khamenei >>>> Imran.
 
psyoptica said:
Pakistanis have affinity to religious extremism. They will get their rights trampled and not protest but a foreign religious leader who has no affiliation to Pakistan will get these idiots to come out and burn down their own country. Bunch of losers
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They will never go to the level of those LOSERS who will kill people for consuming a BEEF BURGER
 
Cover Drive Six said:
You can often find Sunni extremists blasting Shia mosques and killing people in Pakistan. However, Shias in Pakistan do not usually show aggression against the government; instead, they protest for Khamenei.
For Shias, Khamenei >>>> Imran.
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I have a strong feeling you’re a failed Bollywood screenwriter, but I’ll give you this, you do tell some very nice stories.
 
psyoptica said:
Pakistanis have affinity to religious extremism. They will get their rights trampled and not protest but a foreign religious leader who has no affiliation to Pakistan will get these idiots to come out and burn down their own country. Bunch of losers
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If Iran assassinated the pope and his family , catholics would also do violent protests in many countries.
 
emranabbas said:
I have a strong feeling you’re a failed Bollywood screenwriter, but I’ll give you this, you do tell some very nice stories.
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You can feel strongly about whatever your brain is tuned into, but that will not change the facts.
Sunni extremists bombing Shia mosques and killing thousands is a fact, not a story.
Shias protesting against Khamenei’s death is a fact, not a story.
 
Cover Drive Six said:
You can feel strongly about whatever your brain is tuned into, but that will not change the facts.
Sunni extremists bombing Shia mosques and killing thousands is a fact, not a story.
Shias protesting against Khamenei’s death is a fact, not a story.
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and you know more than Shia's and the people of Pakistan that whose attacking who while sitting in slums of india?
Sunni and Shia's have always had good relations it's your Taliban extremist Wahabi brothers who have been attacking shia's so stop blaming sunni's.

not only Shia's of Pakistan but also Sunni's of Pakistan are mourning and protesting for Khamenei

so you keep you hindutva bull **** to yourself
 
emranabbas said:
and you know more than Shia's and the people of Pakistan that whose attacking who while sitting in slums of india?
Sunni and Shia's have always had good relations it's our Islamist extremist Wahabi brothers who have been attacking shia's so stop blaming sunni's.

not only Shia's of Pakistan but also Sunni's of Pakistan are mourning and protesting for Khamenei

so you keep you hindutva bull **** to yourself
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Fixed it for you. Now you can take your Islamist bull **** with you.
 
This is to explain Muslim and non Muslims what Aya Khamanei represented for Shias. Keep in mind he is not just another Ayatollah (there are close to 80-90 of them globally). He holds the position of Supreme leader.

He is like the highest ranking pope.
To Sunnis, his position and respect is that of a Khalifa (it’s not about you agree or disagree with this but rather to explain the emotions involved)
 
KingKhanWC said:
If Iran assassinated the pope and his family , catholics would also do violent protests in many countries.
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If Netenyahu had been assassinated by the Iranians, I believe Starmer and the rest of the Five Eyes nations would have declared war on Iran. There are different standards for the British Raj and the third world.
 
How embarrasing. Such cringey people, these protestors with no life.

Maybe come out to the streets and protest the imprisonment of your own leader Imran Khan ?
 
emranabbas said:
here its fixed



is this not the guy who showed your female Indian journalist her aukat?
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What are you trying to prove by posting random pictures?
You guys should be the last people to talk about “aukat.”
Where was your aukat when you sided with Trump and he is now killing Iranians in the war?
Where is your aukat when you agreed to Trump’s peace mission to work with Israel?

Aukat sir...Aukat


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rballer said:
This is to explain Muslim and non Muslims what Aya Khamanei represented for Shias. Keep in mind he is not just another Ayatollah (there are close to 80-90 of them globally). He holds the position of Supreme leader.

He is like the highest ranking pope.
To Sunnis, his position and respect is that of a Khalifa (it’s not about you agree or disagree with this but rather to explain the emotions involved)
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He also happens to be a ruthless dictator, unike the Pope.
 
RexRex said:
How embarrasing. Such cringey people, these protestors with no life.

Maybe come out to the streets and protest the imprisonment of your own leader Imran Khan ?
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They did. The army turned their guns on the protestors, pretty sure it was covered on here.
 
Cover Drive Six said:
What are you trying to prove by posting random pictures?
You guys should be the last people to talk about “aukat.”
Where was your aukat when you sided with Trump and he is now killing Iranians in the war?
Where is your aukat when you agreed to Trump’s peace mission to work with Israel?

Aukat sir...Aukat
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it was not a random picture it was the picture of your government with Wahabi Taliban brothers of yourss who are killings shia's so don't you don't you dare blame Sunni's when Sunni's and Shia's are living peacefully.

what's this got to do with trump or anything why are you flip flopping?

but this Taliban Wahabi are your friends i poseted picture to show you its your friends who are killings shia's so stop blaming sunnis and your still up their backside after they humilated your indian journalist in public
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
They did. The army turned their guns on the protestors, pretty sure it was covered on here.
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As you would expect them to.

In similar circumstances against the same army, the Bangladeshis stood firm and got a country.

What's your excuse?
 
emranabbas said:
it was not a random picture it was the picture of your government with Wahabi Taliban brothers of yourss who are killings shia's so don't you don't you dare blame Sunni's when Sunni's and Shia's are living peacefully.

what's this got to do with trump or anything why are you flip flopping?

but this Taliban Wahabi are your friends i poseted picture to show you its your friends who are killings shia's so stop blaming sunnis and your still up their backside after they humilated your indian journalist in public
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First, that Taliban guys he is a believer, a Muslim, and then someone’s friend, lol.
You said you are going to enlighten others by converting them to Islam. Let’s enlighten the Taliban first. :uak


According to you guys, Trump is an evil person who is killing Shias and Palestine's, yet you guys are sharing a bed with him and participating in Israel’s cause while humiliating the Ummah.🤡
 
Cover Drive Six said:
First, that Taliban guys he is a believer, a Muslim, and then someone’s friend, lol.
You said you are going to enlighten others by converting them to Islam. Let’s enlighten the Taliban first. :uak


According to you guys, Trump is an evil person who is killing Shias and Palestine's, yet you guys are sharing a bed with him and participating in Israel’s cause while humiliating the Ummah.🤡
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if you don't know anything about Islam and the sects of islam its best if you shut up and not get involved in an Islamic debate.
so shut your mouth stop blaming sunni's for attacks on shia when its the the guy who your prime ministers is sleeping in bed with.

that is none of your concern about internal Muslim matters you and India are not invited in our internal matters so is best if you just buzz of instead embarrassing your self 🤡 🤡 🤡
 
emranabbas said:
if you don't know anything about Islam and the sects of islam its best if you shut up and not get involved in an Islamic debate.
so shut your mouth stop blaming sunni's for attacks on shia when its the the guy who your prime ministers is sleeping in bed with.

that is none of your concern about internal Muslim matters you and India are not invited in our internal matters so is best if you just buzz of instead embarrassing your self 🤡 🤡 🤡
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When you can’t answer the facts, your only response is, “This is our Muslim matter, don’t get involved.” :D


It’s okay, dude. You can solve your “Muslim matters” by sharing a bed with Trump, who is killing Muslims.:uak
 
Cover Drive Six said:
When you can’t answer the facts, your only response is, “This is our Muslim matter, don’t get involved.” :D


It’s okay, dude. You can solve your “Muslim matters” by sharing a bed with Trump, who is killing Muslims.:uak
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I can answer, but I don’t need to answer you. The Sunni–Shia–Wahhabi issue goes back over 1,500 years. It’s a deep religious and historical matter that you clearly don’t understand.

To even begin to grasp it, you’d need to study Islamic history from the time of the Prophet ﷺ — starting with the Khulafa-e-Rashideen, then the era of Muawiyah and Yazid, and continuing all the way to Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab.

So ask yourself: are you actually ready to debate this and defend Wahhabism?

That’s why I’m saying this is a religious matter. You jumping into it without knowledge will only end up embarrassing you.
 
Varun said:
More than good enough, chanting "God save the King" has long been your way to go of course.
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No one actually chants God save the King here. Most are too embarrassed by the royal family to even acknowledge them these days. Your views of Britain are quaint but more chance of hearing "you can stick your chicken tikka up your ar*e!"
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
No one actually chants God save the King here. Most are too embarrassed by the royal family to even acknowledge them these days. Your views of Britain are quaint but more chance of hearing "you can stick your chicken tikka up your ar*e!"
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Whatever makes you fit in - but remember, there's no point doing rona-dhona about Imran Khan if you can't put your money where your mouth is.
 
Varun said:
Whatever makes you fit in - but remember, there's no point doing rona-dhona about Imran Khan if you can't put your money where your mouth is.
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It's not my fault if you see my neutral comments about Imran Khan's leadership qualities as rona dhona.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
It's not my fault if you see my neutral comments about Imran Khan's leadership qualities as rona dhona.
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your comments about Imran khan are far from neutral you seem really sucked into Imran khan you actually go out of your way to pick fights and defend imran khan.

respect to brother @DeadlyVenom he is the most neutral person on this forum no matter what the topic is, i have Hugh Hugh respect for hi, he might even be a PTI support i don't know but he's the most fairest person here.
 
emranabbas said:
I can answer, but I don’t need to answer you. The Sunni–Shia–Wahhabi issue goes back over 1,500 years. It’s a deep religious and historical matter that you clearly don’t understand.

To even begin to grasp it, you’d need to study Islamic history from the time of the Prophet ﷺ — starting with the Khulafa-e-Rashideen, then the era of Muawiyah and Yazid, and continuing all the way to Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab.

So ask yourself: are you actually ready to debate this and defend Wahhabism?

That’s why I’m saying this is a religious matter. You jumping into it without knowledge will only end up embarrassing you.
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ho asked for your Islamist Wahhabi lectures, lol? 🤡 🤡

My point is, you are sleeping with Trump, who is killing Muslims.

And that Taliban guys is a believer and Muslim first right? Please enlighten him:uak:uak

Where is your Ummah chest-thumping when you join Trump’s peace mission for Israel?:ROFLMAO:
 
Cover Drive Six said:
ho asked for your Islamist Wahhabi lectures, lol? 🤡 🤡

My point is, you are sleeping with Trump, who is killing Muslims.

And that Taliban guys is a believer and Muslim first right? Please enlighten him:uak:uak

Where is your Ummah chest-thumping when you join Trump’s peace mission for Israel?:ROFLMAO:
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oh shut up and stop flip flopping you still need to prove that Sunni's are killings Shia's in Pakistan
stop running away from the topic and dropping other topics like a cowards do.
 

Seeing Nigerian Shias blows my mind. But killing Khamenei was always going to have global consequences as unlike Maduro, he was both a political and spiritual leader.
 
emranabbas said:
I can answer, but I don’t need to answer you. The Sunni–Shia–Wahhabi issue goes back over 1,500 years. It’s a deep religious and historical matter that you clearly don’t understand.

To even begin to grasp it, you’d need to study Islamic history from the time of the Prophet ﷺ — starting with the Khulafa-e-Rashideen, then the era of Muawiyah and Yazid, and continuing all the way to Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab.

So ask yourself: are you actually ready to debate this and defend Wahhabism?

That’s why I’m saying this is a religious matter. You jumping into it without knowledge will only end up embarrassing you.
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Cover Drive Six said:
ho asked for your Islamist Wahhabi lectures, lol? 🤡 🤡

My point is, you are sleeping with Trump, who is killing Muslims.

And that Taliban guys is a believer and Muslim first right? Please enlighten him:uak:uak

Where is your Ummah chest-thumping when you join Trump’s peace mission for Israel?:ROFLMAO:
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History and Now

It is true that the issue of Shia-Sunni goes back 1400 years but Muslims lived with each other and side-by-side if we ignore dynastic kingship etc.

Iran and Saudi Arabia are both responsible for ramping up the sectarian tensions and fueling it and funding it with money.

When you Saheeh Bukhari, you will find Shia narrators in it so obviously this wasn't a do or die issue in Islam and people found a way to tolerate each other. The abuse and killings and bombings became mainstream only after Afghan (Soviet) Jihad from both sides.​

I and many others lived before 1979 and after 1979. I don't know anything about Shia'ism but take a look at Fatwaas from 1970s onwards and before.

Take a look at the Fatwa (around 1850) and Mufti Rasheed Ahmed Gangohi-RA clearly states that he does not consider Shia Kaafir


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A few pages previously, he specifically states that those Shia who curse Sahaba etc are considered "Kaafir" by some so that is the clarification in this Fatwa.

Fatatw-e-Alamgiri, the most authoritive book of Hanafi Fatwaas also does not blanket consider Shias Kaafir.


In the 1980s and now in Pakistan, most Deobandees are near unanimous that Shia are Kaafir so you have to ask what changed???

Same on Shia side! Historically, they did not go around cursing Sahaba and inciting trouble.
 
KingKhanWC said:
If Iran assassinated the pope and his family , catholics would also do violent protests in many countries.
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But he’s not the pope. He’s a political figure and a very polarising one. I get that people are upset but they need to use common sense when lashing out anger. You can’t go attacking the US consulate. There are consequences
 
psyoptica said:
But he’s not the pope. He’s a political figure and a very polarising one. I get that people are upset but they need to use common sense when lashing out anger. You can’t go attacking the US consulate. There are consequences
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Emotions take over and he’s more important to the Shia’s . They are 12fers, it’s different . Pakistan government is also ordering live ammunition and is allowing their yank masters. People know this , this could pave the way for a downfall of choor
 
rballer said:
Devotee?

I am a muqalid of him which you don’t know. Now p** off. Talking to your ilk, I always feel dirty.
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Tough luck. Cussing at me is not going the change the fact that your guru Khamenei is now worm-food. Maybe if he hadn't brutally killed all his domestic critics, he wouldn't be such a reviled figure amongst Iranians worldwide.

Chain murders of Iran - Wikipedia

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RexRex said:
Tough luck. Cussing at me is not going the change the fact that your guru Khamenei is now worm-food. Maybe if he hadn't brutally killed all his domestic critics, he wouldn't be such a reviled figure amongst Iranians worldwide.

Chain murders of Iran - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
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This Khamenei is just a dictator under religious garb. He is no different to the plethora of dictators around the world. The difference is Just the attire.
 
emranabbas said:
oh shut up and stop flip flopping you still need to prove that Sunni's are killings Shia's in Pakistan
stop running away from the topic and dropping other topics like a cowards do.
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Dude, either you’re dumb or pretending like nothing is happening in Pakistani Shia mosques. Who is carrying out the bombings in Pakistani mosques? Aren’t they Sunni extremists?
 
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