Provisional census results put Pakistan’s population at 207.774 million

[Major]

ISLAMABAD: The provisional results of the 6th Population and Housing Census were presented on Friday and as per the findings, Pakistan's populations stands at 207.774 million.

According to the press release of the Pakistan Bureau of Statistics, as many as 32 million households were included in the census throughout Pakistan. Out of the total lot, 20 million households were included from the rural areas of the country while 12 million were from the urban areas.



Important takeaways from the census include an overall increase in the population from the 1998 census by 57% and from the 1981 census by 146.6%.

Punjab's population is the highest at 110 million while Sindh follows next with 47 million, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa third with 30 million, Balochistan fourth at 12 million.

FATA has a population of roughly 5 million people while the Islamabad Capital Territory has a population of 2 million.

https://www.samaa.tv/pakistan/2017/...-put-pakistans-population-at-207-774-million/

 

[Syed1]

Didn't Samaa post a news like two weeks ago that population is more than 220+ as per census. I think [MENTION=26195]DW44[/MENTION] made a thread on it.

 

[Markhor]

Can breathe a sigh of relief that the figure isn't as high as what Samaa reported which was 220m.

Still it's a big percentage increase from the last census, possibly the highest rise in the region. Pakistan Government must prioritise the population issue through investment in family planning education and expanding employment and educational opportunities for women.

Also I'd like to know what are the political consequences of the census - how will this affect National Assembly seat distribution ?

 

[Musakhel]

This is excluding ajk and gilgit so total population is probably 213m.

 

[troodon]

Still less than the population of Uttar Pradesh.

 

[saeedhk]

The biggest problem but the least-discussed problem that Pakistan is facing.

 

[last_knight]

The biggest problem but the least-discussed problem that Pakistan is facing.

Controversial. Fair and sincere use of resources can turn this problem into an asset. If we go by our history of having used resources corruptly, it indeed is a problem.

 

[shah_1]

How does Pakistan Bureau of Statistics define Urban population? This is BS according to me, a lot of rural areas have been urbanised, the cities are ever expanding but do they just count the people in a city within a boundary defined 70 years ago.

I read a article years ago about this same topic, in 1998 census that DHA Lahore was under rural area.

 

[Slog]

Didn't Samaa post a news like two weeks ago that population is more than 220+ as per census. I think [MENTION=26195]DW44[/MENTION] made a thread on it.

Can breathe a sigh of relief that the figure isn't as high as what Samaa reported which was 220m

This excludes Gilgit Baltistan and AJK so most likely with them it is around 220mn

Also I'd like to know what are the political consequences of the census - how will this affect National Assembly seat distribution

Whatever they are they wont be applicable for next elections

AFAIK only if the results had been announced by June (which was the timeline) would there be enough time for delimitations etc to do halqa bandi for next election

As far as National Assembly is concerned the effect will be realized in 2023

 

[DW44]

It's 219 million including AJK and GB.

 

[shah_1]

It's 219 million including AJK and GB.

1998 census it was around .8 million in GB and 3 million in AJK

I don't expect such a rise of population so my guess is around 213 million

 

[DW44]

Growth rates between 1998 and 2017:

Punjab : 2.39%
KPK : 3.24%
Balochistan : 3.78%
Sindh : 2.70%
FATA : 2.70%

With the exception of FATA, which has seen a massive outflow of people to "mainland" Pakistan due to the war there, those growth rates correlate directly with the female literacy rates and the status of women in those provinces. This is why women's rights are important. You treat them like animals, it will have far reaching consequences that we are simply not equipped to deal with. This, right here, is exhibit A. Even Punjab's growth rate, by far the lowest of the bunch, is absolutely disgraceful.

 

[Varun]

Amazing that Pakistan has a full Billion+ people fewer than us in spite of being a fairly large country with so many variables in common with us.

Learn, India. Learn.

 

[Pakpak]

Amazing that Pakistan has a full Billion+ people fewer than us in spite of being a fairly large country with so many variables in common with us.

Learn, India. Learn.

Its because of the huge population that India is a massive economic power. Had your population been like ours you'd been the same level that Bangladesh and we are.

 

[Varun]

Its because of the huge population that India is a massive economic power. Had your population been like ours you'd been the same level that Bangladesh and we are.

With only a few hundred million out here like Pakistan we'd be quality over quantity though.

 

[amax]

Its because of the huge population that India is a massive economic power. Had your population been like ours you'd been the same level that Bangladesh and we are.

lol India Population is the biggest Hinderance toward its Growth , If India has about 600 million people many regions of India would have been at turkey level uptil now

 

[Arham_PakFan]

More or less as expected.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

What's the need to discuss? Higher the numbers, stronger the Ummah.

Lmao. This is the kind of mindset that is screwing us over. Overpopulation is the biggest problem we are facing

 

[Varun]

Lmao. This is the kind of mindset that is screwing us over. Overpopulation is the biggest problem we are facing

I'm sure hafeezrocks was being sarcastic.

 

[Napa]

Amazing that Pakistan has a full Billion+ people fewer than us in spite of being a fairly large country with so many variables in common with us.

Learn, India. Learn.

Learn... what?

Number of people per capita killed in Pakistan due to terrorism last year are 20 times those killed in India (US State Govt Report). Is that what you wish to learn?

 

[Varun]

Learn... what?

Number of people per capita killed in Pakistan due to terrorism last year are 20 times those killed in India (US State Govt Report). Is that what you wish to learn?

Learn that the number of people per capita being lower in Pakistan than in India is a good thing, full stop.

Terrorism in Pakistan is a whole different kettle of fish altogether.

 

[Napa]

Its because of the huge population that India is a massive economic power. Had your population been like ours you'd been the same level that Bangladesh and we are.

lol India Population is the biggest Hinderance toward its Growth , If India has about 600 million people many regions of India would have been at turkey level uptil now

Let's see. India provides CEOs for the world's largest multinationals. It is only one of 3 countries (along with US and Russia) to send an orbiter to Mars. Its pharma firms supply affordable medicines to the world's poor. Its hospitals provide advanced medical treatment to patients from around the world. The world's largest tech firms (IBM, Accenture, Google, MS etc.) have relocated the majority of their workforce to India.

What does Turkey have in comparison in terms of modern industries? Nothing.

 

[Musakhel]

Officially we now have more people than Brazil.

 

[boomboomcheema]

Let's see. India provides CEOs for the world's largest multinationals. It is only one of 3 countries (along with US and Russia) to send an orbiter to Mars. Its pharma firms supply affordable medicines to the world's poor. Its hospitals provide advanced medical treatment to patients from around the world. The world's largest tech firms (IBM, Accenture, Google, MS etc.) have relocated the majority of their workforce to India.

What does Turkey have in comparison in terms of modern industries? Nothing.

You forgot to mention the other things India has and Turkey doesn't
1) 500 Million People living under the poverty Line
2) 60 % population without access to toilet
3) Largest number of Malnourished Children in the World

 

[Slog]

Lmao. This is the kind of mindset that is screwing us over. Overpopulation is the biggest problem we are facing

Invest in a sarcasm detector

 

[SandyB]

Didn't know Pakistan had fewer people than UP !

Puts into perspective what we are dealing with in that region.

 

[Major]

Didn't Samaa post a news like two weeks ago that population is more than 220+ as per census. I think [MENTION=26195]DW44[/MENTION] made a thread on it.

yeh but i think that was leaked news, this is confirmed

 

[srh]

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How does Pakistan Bureau of Statistics define Urban population? This is BS according to me, a lot of rural areas have been urbanised, the cities are ever expanding but do they just count the people in a city within a boundary defined 70 years ago.

I read a article years ago about this same topic, in 1998 census that DHA Lahore was under rural area.

wow; so Sindh is the only province which has more urban than rural people

 

[Major]

I wonder if the Mullah brethren is happy about this rise. They would want a double figure from this

 

[Napa]

You forgot to mention the other things India has and Turkey doesn't
1) 500 Million People living under the poverty Line
2) 60 % population without access to toilet
3) Largest number of Malnourished Children in the World

The growth of modern 21st century space, pharma, auto, software etc. industries and educational institutes that produce world class managers are more important that the absence of toilets. I would never want to live in a nation that did not have these industries and universities.

500 million people under the poverty line is fake news. As per CIA World Factbook, the percentage below the poverty line is 21.9%, which is about 270 million. As the GDP keeps growing at 7%, there will be less poverty and less hungry children.

 

[Pakistanian]

It isn't far off from most people's guesstimates

 

[Pakistanian]

The growth of modern 21st century space, pharma, auto, software etc. industries and educational institutes that produce world class managers are more important that the absence of toilets. I would never want to live in a nation that did not have these industries and universities.

500 million people under the poverty line is fake news. As per CIA World Factbook, the percentage below the poverty line is 21.9%, which is about 270 million. As the GDP keeps growing at 7%, there will be less poverty and less hungry children.

Dude even middle class Indians look poor, trust me we get a lot of indian students at my college and they're obviously rich enough to study here yet you can kinda tell they're poor in compared to the poor people we have here. So realistically india's poverty rate is probably 80% or higher.

 

[Pakpak]

lol India Population is the biggest Hinderance toward its Growth , If India has about 600 million people many regions of India would have been at turkey level uptil now

You need to learn how to read. I said if India's population was near ours i.e. 200 million. 600 million is still three times larger than Pakistan.

India's massive population is the reason why you are where you're at. Look at small things like IPL, it gets ridiculous amount of sponsorship bids because of its billion people market.

Turkey. lol.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Invest in a sarcasm detector

I knew he was being sarcastic. I was building upon his point........ why do you think I said "lmao"

 

[DW44]

I wonder if the Mullah brethren is happy about this rise. They would want a double figure from this

Should be over the moon. Afterall, as our mullahs like to say, "musalmano ki fauj tayaar ho rahi hay".

 

[Major]

Should be over the moon. Afterall, as our mullahs like to say, "musalmano ki fauj tayaar ho rahi hay".

i remember how my qari use to emphasize on the importance of having alot of kids as it was very important for the muslim ummah.

 

[Napa]

Dude even middle class Indians look poor, trust me we get a lot of indian students at my college and they're obviously rich enough to study here yet you can kinda tell they're poor in compared to the poor people we have here. So realistically india's poverty rate is probably 80% or higher.

You are going to tell an Indian about India, interesting. And I should place more credence on observations made by a grad student of his fellow students than on the CIA World Factbook, even more interesting.

And I suppose this article is also made up:

http://nypost.com/2013/10/05/ibm-now-employs-more-workers-in-india-than-us/

Living in a world is delusion is hazardous to your future prospects.

 

[Black Zero]

The growth of modern 21st century space, pharma, auto, software etc. industries and educational institutes that produce world class managers are more important that the absence of toilets. I would never want to live in a nation that did not have these industries and universities.

500 million people under the poverty line is fake news. As per CIA World Factbook, the percentage below the poverty line is 21.9%, which is about 270 million. As the GDP keeps growing at 7%, there will be less poverty and less hungry children.

Local surveys done by indian planning commission and they put this number to 21.9% and I assume that's the number(21.9) cia factbook got from.
After acknowledging above, I would add that:
Poverty line is described by income from $1.9 to $3.10 (ppp), so based on this defination, these numbers actually are 44.4% (2013) to 58.01%(2010).

As per World Bank (2015), number is above 48% and WB use their own criteria (people living under national poverty line)

 

[hussain.r97]

By far Pakistan's biggest problem. The government seriously needs to invest in family planning and population control measures.

 

[Napa]

Local surveys done by indian planning commission and they put this number to 21.9% and I assume that's the number(21.9) cia factbook got from.
After acknowledging above, I would add that:
Poverty line is described by income from $1.9 to $3.10 (ppp), so based on this defination, these numbers actually are 44.4% (2013) to 58.01%(2010).

As per World Bank (2015), number is above 48% and WB use their own criteria (people living under national poverty line)

India is one of the few countries to whom WB lends money and actually gets paid back. So they are eager to push the idea of poverty in India so that they can justify their lending to India. Following the money reveals the truth about why WB's figures for Indian poverty are higher than other estimates.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Err.....this is still a huge amount of people

 

[Black Zero]

India is one of the few countries to whom WB lends money and actually gets paid back. So they are eager to push the idea of poverty in India so that they can justify their lending to India. Following the money reveals the truth about why WB's figures for Indian poverty are higher than other estimates.

1- I told you the source of cia World Factbook. .indian planning commission...so you are not putting more credence to cia world factbook, you are just relying on indian planning commission. (which is fine, but be transpatent about the actual source)
2- if I buy your "argument" about lending justification, then logically, South Sudan, Niger, Liberia etc. also paying back the WB full amount (plus some change as WB messed up their numbers and given them worse numbers).
However, sadly, your "argument" is without any merit so we should go with the number 44.4% ($1.90ppp) (2013) to 58.01% ($3.10ppp)(2010).

India is progressing fast and I hope that trickle down effect takes place sooner than later and we see that poverty reduced to 21.9% (and this time in reality)

 

[Napa]

1- I told you the source of cia World Factbook. .indian planning commission...so you are not putting more credence to cia world factbook, you are just relying on indian planning commission. (which is fine, but be transpatent about the actual source)

Different sources have different estimates. However, by the same method, WHO says extreme poverty in India has reduced from 61% in 1980 to 25% in 2010, so progress is in the right direction.

2- if I buy your "argument" about lending justification, then logically, South Sudan, Niger, Liberia etc. also paying back the WB full amount (plus some change as WB messed up their numbers and given them worse numbers).
However, sadly, your "argument" is without any merit so we should go with the number 44.4% ($1.90ppp) (2013) to 58.01% ($3.10ppp)(2010).

Elementary logical error my dear fellow of the sort A -> B implies B -> A.

It is profitable for WB to give money to India.

does not imply:

Liberia receives money from WB, therefore it is profitable for the WB to give money to Liberia.

India is progressing fast and I hope that trickle down effect takes place sooner than later and we see that poverty reduced to 21.9% (and this time in reality)

Believe me, the reduction in poverty from 61% to 25% is as real as it gets.

 

[big_gamer007]

Dude even middle class Indians look poor, trust me we get a lot of indian students at my college and they're obviously rich enough to study here yet you can kinda tell they're poor in compared to the poor people we have here. So realistically india's poverty rate is probably 80% or higher.

Lol what? They probably look poor to you because of crappy dressing sense or just because they are ugly? More than 80% poverty rate? Nice trolling

 

[saeedhk]

We need istedaad instead of tadaad.

 

[SandyB]

Does anyone have the details of population density of Pak provinces ? It'd be interesting to see.

 

[MMHS]

That's almost 1.75bn population in South Asia, in an area slightly larger than Western Australia!!!. If we are to feed 20% of those 1 egg/day, we'll need 35 crore hens, or make hens lay multiple eggs in a day.

I feel, we are poor because of this population blast - and population is exploding because of poverty. One thing I have noticed in BD (I am sure, same everywhere in South Asia), that the population blast is happening in the lowest strata of income segment - people living in poorest condition doesn't have any meaning of raising kids or their basic needs - a new born baby is like a working (or sadly begging) hand from the age of 10/11, therefore they are happy in increasing family members. These parents need minimum effort or resources to raise these kids to that age level, and then they are adding pennies to the pot.

BD having a large % of female worker in RMG sector has managed to reduce the population growth to bring down at 1.3% level (net off migration, actually a bit higher, around 1.7% I believe), still the lowest income strata is contributing most in young generation bucket - that has one alarming consequences; average body mass/height is reducing in BD for the malnutrition, but dispersion between healthy & unhealthy kid is growing, because of economic polarization. Which means, the top 10% privileged kids are actually getting physically, mentally stronger (& many of them'll leave the country by 18), while the majority common kids are lagging behind their predecessors in this regard.

Looking at the population size & growth rate in PAK, and IND as well (which probably now is the most populated country, surpassing China or almost touching it), I think the biggest challenge in South Asian leadership in future is probably lies in improving human resources index. If this goes on, we'll be facing a young generation, which is robust in numbers, but less productive.

 

[Slog]

That's almost 1.75bn population in South Asia, in an area slightly larger than Western Australia!!!. If we are to feed 20% of those 1 egg/day, we'll need 35 crore hens, or make hens lay multiple eggs in a day.

I feel, we are poor because of this population blast - and population is exploding because of poverty. One thing I have noticed in BD (I am sure, same everywhere in South Asia), that the population blast is happening in the lowest strata of income segment - people living in poorest condition doesn't have any meaning of raising kids or their basic needs - a new born baby is like a working (or sadly begging) hand from the age of 10/11, therefore they are happy in increasing family members. These parents need minimum effort or resources to raise these kids to that age level, and then they are adding pennies to the pot.

BD having a large % of female worker in RMG sector has managed to reduce the population growth to bring down at 1.3% level (net off migration, actually a bit higher, around 1.7% I believe), still the lowest income strata is contributing most in young generation bucket - that has one alarming consequences; average body mass/height is reducing in BD for the malnutrition, but dispersion between healthy & unhealthy kid is growing, because of economic polarization. Which means, the top 10% privileged kids are actually getting physically, mentally stronger (& many of them'll leave the country by 18), while the majority common kids are lagging behind their predecessors in this regard.

Looking at the population size & growth rate in PAK, and IND as well (which probably now is the most populated country, surpassing China or almost touching it), I think the biggest challenge in South Asian leadership in future is probably lies in improving human resources index. If this goes on, we'll be facing a young generation, which is robust in numbers, but less productive.

Bangladesh has good control over its population

In 1971, both Pakistan and newly formed Bangladesh had similar population levels afaik

 

[MMHS]

Bangladesh has good control over its population

In 1971, both Pakistan and newly formed Bangladesh had similar population levels afaik

Problem is similar across south Asia, but may be at different magnitude. Among me & my wife's over 200 friends, mostly both professional - only 1 (now may be 2) couple has 3 kids, most of others are trying for 2nd, some 1st (And more than half of them are either in North America, AUS, Europe ... or at least in Malaysia, Singapore, UAE). Back at home, we had a family driver, 29/30 - father of 4; couple of helpers for mom's kitchen - in their teens & together they have 11 siblings working around in such jobs & all are in their teens .. means ech one about 12/13 months apart. And, the guard of the house in his mid 40s, has 7 kids - all of them are working either as rickshaw puller, day labor, garments worker or house maids - and they are earning good for their living standard.

 

[super hitter]

Unfortunately, the nature has planned something else for itself!

People will realize the importance of this overpopulation after a hundred years or so since you don't know where are the developing countries heading off to.

The infertility and homosexuality are at rise and the developed countries already have a low birth rate and a high life expectancy. That means that after a few more decades, the developed countries will go through a phase where the youth is small in number and most of the population consists of aged people. There will be a lot more burden on the upcoming younger generation than it is and not to forget, the newer generations will consist of more idle and inactive young individuals that is a consequence of the modern world of technologies. Japan will be the most effected country according to some surveys.

To sustain economic growth, the developed countries will have to literally "import people" from the developing countries that includes a vast majority of the sub continent.

The literacy rate too in the West is way better as more and more people get educated that may create a scarce of employees at the primary level as a result, bulks would turn their heads towards the developing countries due to lack of employments in accordance to their skills. The governments may make precautionary policies to sway the consequences but that would just restrict it to a certain level and AGAIN people from developing countries will be offered meaningful wages to regenerate the lapse.

This is just a small reality check and the truth is, NOTHING can sustain itself in its current state.

 

[Slog]

Unfortunately, the nature has planned something else for itself!

People will realize the importance of this overpopulation after a hundred years or so since you don't know where are the developing countries heading off to.

The infertility and homosexuality are at rise and the developed countries already have a low birth rate and a high life expectancy. That means that after a few more decades, the developed countries will go through a phase where the youth is small in number and most of the population consists of aged people. There will be a lot more burden on the upcoming younger generation than it is and not to forget, the newer generations will consist of more idle and inactive young individuals that is a consequence of the modern world of technologies. Japan will be the most effected country according to some surveys.

To sustain economic growth, the developed countries will have to literally "import people" from the developing countries that includes a vast majority of the sub continent.

The literacy rate too in the West is way better as more and more people get educated that may create a scarce of employees at the primary level as a result, bulks would turn their heads towards the developing countries due to lack of employments in accordance to their skills. The governments may make precautionary policies to sway the consequences but that would just restrict it to a certain level and AGAIN people from developing countries will be offered meaningful wages to regenerate the lapse.

This is just a small reality check and the truth is, NOTHING can sustain itself in its current state.

You are discounting impact of technlogical advancements which may make the scenarios you are painting to be irreleveant

 

[90MPH]

It's massive rise and Pakistan is now paying for it now like the Energy crisis.

PAK Government and media should encourage education/debate on this topic.

 

[Syed1]

Bachay do hi achay program needs to be revived.

 

[super hitter]

You are discounting impact of technlogical advancements which may make the scenarios you are painting to be irreleveant

What are you specifically pointing at? Alternative child birth methods?

If you're talking about surrogacy, which I suppose is the only alternative legal way of giving birth to a child, then that is very expensive and even if it gets cheaper, it'll still be practiced in small amount due to obvious reasons.