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"PSL final WILL be held in Lahore" : Najam Sethi [updates #82 #90 and #116]
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Security threat in Pakistan remains excessive and unmanageable: FICA
Whether the retinue of overseas cricketers make the trip or not, the final of the 2017 Pakistan Super League (PSL) will be held in Lahore in March, confirmed the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) on Sunday (January 8).
The announcement was made even as Tony Irish, the executive chairman of the Federation of International Cricketers’ Associations (FICA), told Wisden India that the security threat for foreign players in Pakistan remained “excessive and unmanageable”.
Back in October last year, Najam Sethi, the chairperson of the PSL, had announced that while the rest of the tournament would be held in Dubai and Sharjah, the final would be staged at Gaddafi Stadium, with the participating players flying in and flying out in a nod to the delicate security situation in the country.
According to a report in Dawn, the PCB confirmed on Sunday that they were working on the logistics to try and bring the international players to Lahore, and if the cricketers in question were uncomfortable with security arrangements, the PCB would chalk out a back-up plan to replace those players with local ones for the final.
Unconfirmed reports also suggest that the PCB could hold a separate draft in the last week of February to bring in foreign players who would be willing to travel to Lahore for the final in place of those who opt out.
The tournament starts on February 9 and the final is scheduled for March 7.
Irish, however, maintained that from the point of view of FICA, Pakistan wasn’t safe to tour.
“The Pakistani players don’t have a players association so aren’t affiliated to FICA. Players from around the world affiliated to FICA do, however, seek advice from FICA relating to security risks of playing in various countries. We rely on reports from our independent security consultants. In the past, the consistent advice from the security experts has been that risks to foreign players and teams of playing in Pakistan are excessive and unmanageable,” explained Irish in an email exchange.
“We are in the process of obtaining an updated report from the security consultants and will provide recommendations to players as soon as we have received this.
“Players play in T20 leagues as individuals and therefore each player makes an individual decision on whether or not to play in this match in Lahore. FICA’s role in these circumstances is to provide players with information and recommendations which may assist them in making that decision.”
There has been no international cricket in Pakistan since the attack on the Sri Lanka team bus back in 2009, with Zimbabwe the only full-member team to tour Pakistan in 2015 for a short limited-overs series.
In a bid to revive international cricket in Pakistan, the PCB has also extended an invitation to the West Indies Cricket Board (WICB) to tour Pakistan for a two-match Twenty20 Internationals series in Lahore on March 18 and 19. Reports suggest that the WICB has been considering the proposal, but will take a final decision based on security clearances from the West Indies Players’ Association.
If West Indies do visit Pakistan, there will be two reciprocal T20Is in Lauderhill in Florida, USA, ahead of Pakistan’s tour of the Caribbean in March-April.
India had also played two T20Is in Lauderhill after their four-Test series in the Caribbean in July-August 2016, with both matches drawing good crowds.
Whether the retinue of overseas cricketers make the trip or not, the final of the 2017 Pakistan Super League (PSL) will be held in Lahore in March, confirmed the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) on Sunday (January 8).
The announcement was made even as Tony Irish, the executive chairman of the Federation of International Cricketers’ Associations (FICA), told Wisden India that the security threat for foreign players in Pakistan remained “excessive and unmanageable”.
Back in October last year, Najam Sethi, the chairperson of the PSL, had announced that while the rest of the tournament would be held in Dubai and Sharjah, the final would be staged at Gaddafi Stadium, with the participating players flying in and flying out in a nod to the delicate security situation in the country.
According to a report in Dawn, the PCB confirmed on Sunday that they were working on the logistics to try and bring the international players to Lahore, and if the cricketers in question were uncomfortable with security arrangements, the PCB would chalk out a back-up plan to replace those players with local ones for the final.
Unconfirmed reports also suggest that the PCB could hold a separate draft in the last week of February to bring in foreign players who would be willing to travel to Lahore for the final in place of those who opt out.
The tournament starts on February 9 and the final is scheduled for March 7.
Irish, however, maintained that from the point of view of FICA, Pakistan wasn’t safe to tour.
“The Pakistani players don’t have a players association so aren’t affiliated to FICA. Players from around the world affiliated to FICA do, however, seek advice from FICA relating to security risks of playing in various countries. We rely on reports from our independent security consultants. In the past, the consistent advice from the security experts has been that risks to foreign players and teams of playing in Pakistan are excessive and unmanageable,” explained Irish in an email exchange.
“We are in the process of obtaining an updated report from the security consultants and will provide recommendations to players as soon as we have received this.
“Players play in T20 leagues as individuals and therefore each player makes an individual decision on whether or not to play in this match in Lahore. FICA’s role in these circumstances is to provide players with information and recommendations which may assist them in making that decision.”
There has been no international cricket in Pakistan since the attack on the Sri Lanka team bus back in 2009, with Zimbabwe the only full-member team to tour Pakistan in 2015 for a short limited-overs series.
In a bid to revive international cricket in Pakistan, the PCB has also extended an invitation to the West Indies Cricket Board (WICB) to tour Pakistan for a two-match Twenty20 Internationals series in Lahore on March 18 and 19. Reports suggest that the WICB has been considering the proposal, but will take a final decision based on security clearances from the West Indies Players’ Association.
If West Indies do visit Pakistan, there will be two reciprocal T20Is in Lauderhill in Florida, USA, ahead of Pakistan’s tour of the Caribbean in March-April.
India had also played two T20Is in Lauderhill after their four-Test series in the Caribbean in July-August 2016, with both matches drawing good crowds.
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FICA is advicinng foreign players not to be part of the Final in Lahore. Bad blow to Pakistan.
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This could be a masterstroke if PCB has already asked the Players and they are willing to fly in, play and fly out.
It will be a disaster if PCB hasn't spoken to anyone and just announced.
We have to wait and see
It will be a disaster if PCB hasn't spoken to anyone and just announced.
We have to wait and see
FICA said 2 days that they will compile their report, and they have it compiled within 2 days? Something doesn't seem right.
Their report seems to be based on severely outdated information. For example, it says:
Their report seems to be based on severely outdated information. For example, it says:
By saying that Pakistan CONTINUES to experience significant attacks, they are suggesting that things have not changed at all since 2009. When in fact, there has been a 75% reduction in terrorist violence since 2009. Whoever is compiling this report is doing so based on old data. Who are their security experts, are they actually in Pakistan or compiling their reports from abroad?
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What is the point of playing in Lahore if international players dont come?
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It is not up to the players. The boards can just decide not to give them NOCs.
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PCB’s response to FICA statement
Lahore, January 10, 2017:
FICA has done great disservice to the cause of cricket in general and Pakistan cricket in particular by advising players not to play in the PSL Final in Lahore next March because of “security reasons”.
FICA has cited unnamed “expert Security Consultants” for “updated security advice” that claims Pakistan is “at an extremely elevated state of insecurity.”
This is a careless and cavalier approach to an issue of great importance. FICA sits thousands of miles away from Pakistan and cannot name even one credible security expert, yet makes a sweeping negative statement about the security situation in Lahore. FICA’s claim that “westerners and luxury hotels have been attacked” is contrary to the facts on the ground that prove that not a single foreigner or hotel has been attacked in Lahore in the last five years.
FICA’s claim that “targeted attacks” are predicted to continue is belied by the fact that Lahore is the show piece of the government that has secured the services of UK based “safe city” security project.
PCB has recently hosted Kenya, Zimbabwe, Bangladesh (Women), Afghanistan and Malaysian national cricket teams in Lahore and Karachi without any problem. In the case of PSL Final in Lahore for one day, the government has guaranteed protection by over 3000 army and police personnel in Lahore. PCB will provide armored buses for travel along with VVIP security protocols.
It may also be noted that a group of foreign players including Jonty Rhodes, Brain Lara, Curtly Ambrose, Glenn McGrath, Dean Jones, Mark Butcher, Marvin Atapatu, Herschelle Gibbs, Damien Martyn, Andy Roberts, Danny Morrison, Sanath Jayasuriya, Andrew Symonds, Ajay Jadeja, Robin Smith, Cameron Delport etc are regular visitors to Pakistan on assignment with Pak TV and are available to vouchsafe the safety and security of foreign cricketers in the country.
PSL has already received confirmation from top international players to play in Lahore and PCB is determined to bring cricket home to Pakistan.
Lahore, January 10, 2017:
FICA has done great disservice to the cause of cricket in general and Pakistan cricket in particular by advising players not to play in the PSL Final in Lahore next March because of “security reasons”.
FICA has cited unnamed “expert Security Consultants” for “updated security advice” that claims Pakistan is “at an extremely elevated state of insecurity.”
This is a careless and cavalier approach to an issue of great importance. FICA sits thousands of miles away from Pakistan and cannot name even one credible security expert, yet makes a sweeping negative statement about the security situation in Lahore. FICA’s claim that “westerners and luxury hotels have been attacked” is contrary to the facts on the ground that prove that not a single foreigner or hotel has been attacked in Lahore in the last five years.
FICA’s claim that “targeted attacks” are predicted to continue is belied by the fact that Lahore is the show piece of the government that has secured the services of UK based “safe city” security project.
PCB has recently hosted Kenya, Zimbabwe, Bangladesh (Women), Afghanistan and Malaysian national cricket teams in Lahore and Karachi without any problem. In the case of PSL Final in Lahore for one day, the government has guaranteed protection by over 3000 army and police personnel in Lahore. PCB will provide armored buses for travel along with VVIP security protocols.
It may also be noted that a group of foreign players including Jonty Rhodes, Brain Lara, Curtly Ambrose, Glenn McGrath, Dean Jones, Mark Butcher, Marvin Atapatu, Herschelle Gibbs, Damien Martyn, Andy Roberts, Danny Morrison, Sanath Jayasuriya, Andrew Symonds, Ajay Jadeja, Robin Smith, Cameron Delport etc are regular visitors to Pakistan on assignment with Pak TV and are available to vouchsafe the safety and security of foreign cricketers in the country.
PSL has already received confirmation from top international players to play in Lahore and PCB is determined to bring cricket home to Pakistan.
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It is impressive to note the number of ex-cricketers who have visited Pakistan as analysts for PTV sports.. that in itself is a pretty good example of good care being taken of foreign cricketers here
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Good,strong reply by the PCB
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Thats more like it, strong response. We are ready to host.
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Not a wise decision. I'm sure international players like KP and McCullum will pull out. PCB said they will replace the intl players with domestic players from other PSL teams. What? There will be no credibility left of PSL tournament. If your team is out, no worries! You can replace an international and be part of the winning squad.
Safe or no safe, don't think international players will be willing to come except few windies and bdesh. We all know anything can happen in Pakistan. There was even a bomb blast when Zimbabwe came over. Too much risk. I do understand having UAE as homeground is expensive so they are trying to bring it home.
Safe or no safe, don't think international players will be willing to come except few windies and bdesh. We all know anything can happen in Pakistan. There was even a bomb blast when Zimbabwe came over. Too much risk. I do understand having UAE as homeground is expensive so they are trying to bring it home.
The whole point of providing security is so that if someone tries to attack you, they are unsuccessful. When Zimbabwe came over, the bomber could not pass the first ring of security, meaning the security plan worked, yes? It's completely contradictory to say that Pakistan is unable to provide security to players, but when that security actually works they say "well there was a bomb blast".
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Very good and appropriate response. If West Indies Security Experts conclude that Security is adequate it will further weaken FICA's stance.
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I don't remember the details of the blast but if I recall 2 people were killed. Why take the risk? Does that mean civilians life doesn't matter? Or the security is only for the players and not for the local people. So 2 people getting killed is a no biggie now. Recently Morgan and Hales refused to tour BD where international cricket is normal so I can understand other players hesitancy when it comes to touring Pak.
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From what i read, Intl players will be replaced by 5-6 Lahore/Karachi players. This is so weird.
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It was a gas cylinder blast, nothing criminal.
Sindh and Punjab is safe to host cricket. PCB will end up broke and finished if we wait for the perfect day for when heaven on earth will be in Pakistan and there is no crime. If you look at Germany and France and Turkey it can happen anywhere. I dont see sports teams backing away from these countries.
Pakistan is ready to host sport, its been peaceful, country is growing and everyone is hungry for some international cricket. The show must go on.
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I cannot believe I am seeing this. I honestly did not expect even a reply from PCB to the FICA being so ruthless and nonchalant but this is the sort of professionalism PCB needs.
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Exactly. Looking at the future of the world based on current circumstances, it appears as though nowhere in the world can ever be declared "safe" again. Its either now or never. Especially because PCB rarely gets a good, committed official and right now, it has two and it is best if they make most of the opportunity to bring cricket back into Pakistan right now..
It was definitely a suicide blast. They just said gas cylinder to 'keep things down'. Yes, unfortunately these incidents been happening everywhere. I would love to see cricket back home but not at the expense of people dying.
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What is your source? Just intuition. I'm sorry but unless you have proof, I don't buy your theory. Also, nobody has to die if Paksitan is able to provide adequate security (which they are based on Zimbabwe series).
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Conspiracy theories which are self depracating. Only Pakistanis think like this nobody else.
We need money and we need tours. Stop falling into the trap of thinking you are not good enough. Look how England traveled to BD right after the attack.
We are ready, it has to happen or our cricket will die too.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/05/zimbabwe-play-odi-lahore-suicide-attack-150530083337692.html
Al Jazeerq. Pretty reputable I would say. Pakistan can't even take responsibility of their own people security so how do we expect to take for others?
No conspiracy just bitter facts. People like you must also think India was behind Amir and Asif getting banned so they can win the World Cup. Lol
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wow.... Brutal reply from PCB
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This is a News report that was made before any proper investigations were made. It was later on declared that it was an Auto-Rickshaw gas cylinder explosion - not something out of the ordinary, happens all the time in Pakistan.
Any-who, Pakistan does not assign 3000 police and army personnel and four bulletproof buses along with snipers at every corner of the city for their own people, do they? You have different priorities for different people.
Very professional & to the point response by PCB. This is the right way to counter any argument - with logic & acceptable examples. Next step can be press briefings with the International players touring/commenting in PAK.
I always thought SK (& NS as well) are very good administrators - they do know how to handle such situations or media. Unfortunately, they have not much experience in technical issues of cricket, neither have the age to dig in deep & learn. May be, what can help PCB is a professional Director of Cricket with full authority, coming from experience in managing technical roles at CA or ECB; who'll look after the Cricket side of PCB.
I always thought SK (& NS as well) are very good administrators - they do know how to handle such situations or media. Unfortunately, they have not much experience in technical issues of cricket, neither have the age to dig in deep & learn. May be, what can help PCB is a professional Director of Cricket with full authority, coming from experience in managing technical roles at CA or ECB; who'll look after the Cricket side of PCB.
Ok sure nothing ordinary. Let's move on. What do you have to say about Pakistani players replacing the Int'l ones from other teams? That will be weird.
Yes, the cup shouldn't be held in Lahore since replacing 2-3 international players from a side will look weird!
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Yeah, that is absurd. I'm hoping none of the players back out.
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FICA RESPONDS TO PCB STATEMENT REGARDING PAKISTAN SUPER LEAGUE (PSL) FINAL IN LAHORE
The Federation of International Cricketers’ Associations (FICA) today responded to a statement issued by the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) in which the PCB criticised FICA for its alleged “careless and cavalier approach” to security issues relating to the playing of the PSL final in Lahore, and stated that FICA has done great disservice to the cause of cricket in general and to Pakistan cricket.
FICA relies on advice given by expert security consultants, Eastern Star International (ESI), in relation to security risks to players and teams who may contemplate playing in what may be considered high-risk cricket environments. ESI are highly credible specialist security consultants with many years of experience working in cricket. ESI has supplied security services over several years to a number of cricket boards and international teams around the world and to the International Cricket Council (ICC).
FICA has gone through a similar process to that followed in previous years relating to players playing cricket in Pakistan. It obtained advice from ESI related to security risks to cricketers playing in the PSL final in Lahore in January 2017.
FICA sent a confidential memorandum to players’ associations and to affiliated cricketers, and their agents, highlighting the advice received from ESI relating to the elevated security risk for them of playing in Pakistan. The elevated risk is in line with advice from government agencies and diplomatic missions of several countries regarding travel by foreigners to Pakistan.
FICA recognises that players play in T20 leagues around the world as individuals and that players make individual choices relating to whether or not they wish to participate in a league or match. FICA’s memorandum to players and player agents accordingly did not advise players not to participate in the PSL final in Lahore, but informed players that they do so at their own risk and that players should check any insurance cover that may apply.
Since the 2009 terrorist attack on the Sri Lankan team in Lahore Pakistan has played bi-lateral home series matches against ICC full member countries in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) for security reasons. The only full member men’s team to tour Pakistan in this time was Zimbabwe in 2015. The ICC declined to send its match officials to Pakistan to officiate in this series for security reasons. A suicide bomber detonated an explosive device outside the stadium in Lahore shortly before the 2nd ODI of the series, killing himself and a policeman.
The PCB is staging all PSL matches, except the planned final in Lahore, in the UAE for security reasons. Several months ago the PCB consulted FICA in relation to provisions of the standard player contract for the PSL. When FICA expressed possible security concerns relating to playing the final in Lahore the PCB was not responsive to FICA on this issue.
“Players around the world from affiliated countries have always looked to FICA to provide them with information relating to security risks of playing in various parts of the world”, said Tony Irish, FICA’s Executive Chairman. “It is our responsibility to provide this information, which we obtain from highly credible security experts, so that players can make informed decisions.”
“We have great sympathy for fans and players in Pakistan who have not been able to consistently watch international teams and high quality foreign players playing cricket in their country for several years. FICA has no vested interest in this matter and is completely independent of the PSL. We consider the PSL a good opportunity for players and we would like to see it succeed. However the safety and security of players is, and will continue to be, a high priority matter for FICA.”
The Federation of International Cricketers’ Associations (FICA) was established in 1998 to co-ordinate the activities of all national players’ associations which protect the interests of professional cricketers’ throughout the world. It brings together the world’s cricketers’, regardless of nationality, religion, political persuasion or race, under an international body focused on matters of general interest to the game and its players.
FICA Players’ Association Representatives
Australian Cricketers’ Association – Alistair Nicholson
Cricketers’ Welfare Association of Bangladesh - Debabrata Paul
New Zealand Cricket Players’ Association – Heath Mills
Professional Cricketers’ Association (UK) – David Leatherdale
South African Cricketers’ Association – Tony Irish
Sri Lankan Cricketers’ Association - Ken De Alwis
West Indies Players’ Association – Wavell Hinds
FICA Structure
President – Jimmy Adams
Executive Chairman – Tony Irish
Chief Operating Officer – Tom Moffat
The Federation of International Cricketers’ Associations (FICA) today responded to a statement issued by the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) in which the PCB criticised FICA for its alleged “careless and cavalier approach” to security issues relating to the playing of the PSL final in Lahore, and stated that FICA has done great disservice to the cause of cricket in general and to Pakistan cricket.
FICA relies on advice given by expert security consultants, Eastern Star International (ESI), in relation to security risks to players and teams who may contemplate playing in what may be considered high-risk cricket environments. ESI are highly credible specialist security consultants with many years of experience working in cricket. ESI has supplied security services over several years to a number of cricket boards and international teams around the world and to the International Cricket Council (ICC).
FICA has gone through a similar process to that followed in previous years relating to players playing cricket in Pakistan. It obtained advice from ESI related to security risks to cricketers playing in the PSL final in Lahore in January 2017.
FICA sent a confidential memorandum to players’ associations and to affiliated cricketers, and their agents, highlighting the advice received from ESI relating to the elevated security risk for them of playing in Pakistan. The elevated risk is in line with advice from government agencies and diplomatic missions of several countries regarding travel by foreigners to Pakistan.
FICA recognises that players play in T20 leagues around the world as individuals and that players make individual choices relating to whether or not they wish to participate in a league or match. FICA’s memorandum to players and player agents accordingly did not advise players not to participate in the PSL final in Lahore, but informed players that they do so at their own risk and that players should check any insurance cover that may apply.
Since the 2009 terrorist attack on the Sri Lankan team in Lahore Pakistan has played bi-lateral home series matches against ICC full member countries in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) for security reasons. The only full member men’s team to tour Pakistan in this time was Zimbabwe in 2015. The ICC declined to send its match officials to Pakistan to officiate in this series for security reasons. A suicide bomber detonated an explosive device outside the stadium in Lahore shortly before the 2nd ODI of the series, killing himself and a policeman.
The PCB is staging all PSL matches, except the planned final in Lahore, in the UAE for security reasons. Several months ago the PCB consulted FICA in relation to provisions of the standard player contract for the PSL. When FICA expressed possible security concerns relating to playing the final in Lahore the PCB was not responsive to FICA on this issue.
“Players around the world from affiliated countries have always looked to FICA to provide them with information relating to security risks of playing in various parts of the world”, said Tony Irish, FICA’s Executive Chairman. “It is our responsibility to provide this information, which we obtain from highly credible security experts, so that players can make informed decisions.”
“We have great sympathy for fans and players in Pakistan who have not been able to consistently watch international teams and high quality foreign players playing cricket in their country for several years. FICA has no vested interest in this matter and is completely independent of the PSL. We consider the PSL a good opportunity for players and we would like to see it succeed. However the safety and security of players is, and will continue to be, a high priority matter for FICA.”
The Federation of International Cricketers’ Associations (FICA) was established in 1998 to co-ordinate the activities of all national players’ associations which protect the interests of professional cricketers’ throughout the world. It brings together the world’s cricketers’, regardless of nationality, religion, political persuasion or race, under an international body focused on matters of general interest to the game and its players.
FICA Players’ Association Representatives
Australian Cricketers’ Association – Alistair Nicholson
Cricketers’ Welfare Association of Bangladesh - Debabrata Paul
New Zealand Cricket Players’ Association – Heath Mills
Professional Cricketers’ Association (UK) – David Leatherdale
South African Cricketers’ Association – Tony Irish
Sri Lankan Cricketers’ Association - Ken De Alwis
West Indies Players’ Association – Wavell Hinds
FICA Structure
President – Jimmy Adams
Executive Chairman – Tony Irish
Chief Operating Officer – Tom Moffat
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The heads of this organisation is bribed and they have vested interests. They thought they could release another generic statement like they will keep doing for eternity.This duplicity can no longer be tolerated.
Pakistan has every right to host cricket and we will. Lahore is ready. 2 tours for Pakistan can earn us 50 million. We can transform our cricket. They are all scared of this.
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The people who live in Pakistan still know that they are not safe , when terrorists can easily target the highly secured areas then how are we going to provide adequate security to the touring teams. We should wait for the right time , may be 5 more years and things will be good. At the moment only an incompetent security adviser will allow someone to tour Pakistan.
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You have no clue. Turkey, Paris and Berlin are all in the same situation, doesn't mean life has to stop.
Dozens of foreign cricket pundits have visited Lahore over the last year doing work for PTV. Zimbabwe tour was successful. Country is growing and terrorism stats have gone down to pre 2006 levels.
Like I said there is no such thing as a perfect climate because its impossible. If we wait 5 years Pakistan cricket will die and the enemy who funded the 2009 attack on the SL team will win.
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When SA, Eng, India last visited Pakistan the figures/deaths by terror attacks was double what it is now.
We are never going to have a European utopia, we will be waiting forever if we start waiting. The top teams won't come but atleast we will make some money if the others come.
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Yah terror attacks are less frequent now but the one on the police academy showed what terrorists are capable of and how inadequate are the security measures in Pakistan. If someone plans an attack on a team , it will be hard to fail it given our poor record in even keeping our supposedly secured areas secured.
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Nobody is playing cricket in Quetta or Peshawar.
Lahore is hundreds of miles away and security like what was given to Zimbabwe is full spectrum.
Do you know how many foreign diplomats and head states visit Lahore every year? They are all safe. All you are doing is repeating what your puppet master is saying, totally conditioned.
Im so happy Pakistanis are now becoming more confident with themselves, we also deserve what the world has, we are not an exception to the rule anymore.
If FICA, in consulation with their security appointed security consultants, have come to the conclusion, that in their opinion, Pakistan is still a security risk for players, what is wrong with it. It is their opinion, and their responsibility to their affialiated player associations to provide advice. If the players still want to go, then fine.
Now, simply because PCB need touring teams to come does not mean that FICA has to stay quiet. Again, it is their responsibility to provide advice to the players. No reason to lambast FICA for doing this.
Jimmy Adams is listed as the president of FICA btw. Same Jimmy Adams that has now been appointed as Director of Cricket by the WICB. Hmmm....
Now, simply because PCB need touring teams to come does not mean that FICA has to stay quiet. Again, it is their responsibility to provide advice to the players. No reason to lambast FICA for doing this.
Jimmy Adams is listed as the president of FICA btw. Same Jimmy Adams that has now been appointed as Director of Cricket by the WICB. Hmmm....
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Guys I get this is an emotional issue but lets look at the facts.
- A suicide bomber killed a policeman attempting to get into an ODI the last time a team toured.
- Pakistan, while in better shape than before, is still hardly what would be described as "safe".
- Virtually every single foreign department of every single country warns against travelling there.
- Professional security agencies, who have now been named by the FICA, have analysed the situation and warned against it.
- By offering players and fans an army of security and tanks and planes or whatever, while the aim is understandable (to keep players safe) I can't think of any foreign cricketer who wants to know he requires a battalion, tanks and helicopters to not die while doing his job. It builds up the image in his mind that if this much security is required, there must be a lot of people nearby who want to see him dead or injured.
- Claiming conspiracy, every agency or person who disagrees with you is corrupt, compromised, secret RAW lunch room employee, Indian etc etc implies you have zero argument or proof whatsoever and are just getting understandably emotional over a complex issue but ultimately not helping in any way.
PSL should be held in Pakistan without foreign cricketers anyway. If the aim is to get cricket back to the country why this hasn't been done yet astounds me. I'd be confident that matches would sell out even with 0 foreign cricketers.
- A suicide bomber killed a policeman attempting to get into an ODI the last time a team toured.
- Pakistan, while in better shape than before, is still hardly what would be described as "safe".
- Virtually every single foreign department of every single country warns against travelling there.
- Professional security agencies, who have now been named by the FICA, have analysed the situation and warned against it.
- By offering players and fans an army of security and tanks and planes or whatever, while the aim is understandable (to keep players safe) I can't think of any foreign cricketer who wants to know he requires a battalion, tanks and helicopters to not die while doing his job. It builds up the image in his mind that if this much security is required, there must be a lot of people nearby who want to see him dead or injured.
- Claiming conspiracy, every agency or person who disagrees with you is corrupt, compromised, secret RAW lunch room employee, Indian etc etc implies you have zero argument or proof whatsoever and are just getting understandably emotional over a complex issue but ultimately not helping in any way.
PSL should be held in Pakistan without foreign cricketers anyway. If the aim is to get cricket back to the country why this hasn't been done yet astounds me. I'd be confident that matches would sell out even with 0 foreign cricketers.
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The gas cylinder blast was an accident and happened 3 miles away from the stadium. If you think this is not the case then you are the conspiracy theorist clutching at straws.
The rest of your post is just your standard vague western idealism. Paris is a hotbed for terrorism and its a mess with frequent incidents now but I don't hear you going all holier than thou over them.
We all know where terrorism in Pakistan orginiates from, I would'nt expect you to understand the intricaties of regional geopolitics but I have been around a lot longer than 2001 and know what we are. Syria, Middle East or North Africa we are not, terrorism in Pakistan is funded and supported by foreign agencies. 2 dossiers have been made and there is 1 currently being circulated in the UN. The 2009 incident was funded from outside of the country for a very specific reason. Like I said I don't expect you to know what really goes on in the world outside of your Sky News bubble.
Pakistan is ready to host international sport, big market and huge earning potential and nobody is going to stop this from happening anymore.
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The teams visiting us have no concern at all where the terrorism is planned and from where it gets it's funds. They are only concerned about their security , many of the srilankan players were badly injured in 2009 and sadly we do have the same government in Punjab which failed to provide security to srilankan team despite terror threats. The truth is that even if we are ready to host international sport the rest of the world will take much much longer time to believe that than the residents of Pakistan. Let's see a year pass by where don't see an incident like Quetta police academny , APS school , Karachi airport etc then we can say that yes we have situation under control. At the moment no need to invite anyone and put their lives at risk.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Just by saying that they do not have vested interests doesn't establish that they don't.
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5 more years.. The situation is perfect for cricket right now given that security is provided. I think its time you accept that nowhere in the world is it any long safe to host international cricket without some sort of risk. Even in one of the safest countries of the world, Poland, international celebrities are given security. Does that mean that country is not safe? There is a different level of security for every place.
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When your own government ministers are proclaiming that something is a suicide bomb attack then it's hardly a conspiracy theory when others suggest the same.
http://www.dawn.com/news/1185016
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I have come to a conclusion and that is that some people are simply not happy globalizing the sport. We must realise cricket is already a dying sport outside of the sub-continent anyway. The Brits are more interested in Football, Aussies in Football, hockey and other sports, New Zealand in Baseball and RSA in Rugby. Also with the racial quotas, they will see the same fate as Zimbabwe. West Indies have been in decline since as long as we can remember and the smaller islands have long stopped producing any talent.
ICC isn't ready to anything about this. Instead, they're making it worse. Firstly, by not aiding Kenya financially and forcing them to just quit the sport altogether even though they once had quite a strong side, reaching the semis of a WC. Zimbabwe is headed the same way.
By reducing the number of teams in the World Cup, they have directly said that they want cricket to remain the elitist sport it always was. And now, with ICC playing no role in bringing cricket back to Pakistan, I don't think the time when Pakistanis become more disinterested with the sport is not far away.
ICC isn't ready to anything about this. Instead, they're making it worse. Firstly, by not aiding Kenya financially and forcing them to just quit the sport altogether even though they once had quite a strong side, reaching the semis of a WC. Zimbabwe is headed the same way.
By reducing the number of teams in the World Cup, they have directly said that they want cricket to remain the elitist sport it always was. And now, with ICC playing no role in bringing cricket back to Pakistan, I don't think the time when Pakistanis become more disinterested with the sport is not far away.
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He was fed the wrong information and jumped the gun with his statement. He later retracted it. Try again.
What is more important is to realize that the security situation has changed considerably since 2009. Fatalities due to terrorist violence are down 75%. I know perceptions take a while to change but things are really not the same as they used to be. That's the bottomline.
I will repeat what I just said earlier: The whole point of providing security is so that if someone tries to attack you, they are unsuccessful. When Zimbabwe came over, the bomber could not pass the first ring of security, meaning the security plan worked, yes? It's completely contradictory to say that Pakistan is unable to provide security to players, but when that security actually works they say "well there was a bomb blast".
This is entirely rhetorical and is not grounded in any facts. Yes, it can be described as safe. 600 civilians killed due to terrorist violence in a country of 180m cannot be called "unsafe".
Based on outdated perceptions from 2-3 years ago. They all need to update this information.
Again, based on outdated information. None of them even mentioned that terrorist violence is now at similar levels as 2006, or that it's 75% less than 2009.
Because everyone is demanding that Pakistan provide top-level security, much like what was done by Bangladesh for England. If Pakistan does not provide the security required, the knives will be out. So should they or should they not provide security?
Very few people are saying any of that, and when they say that it is generally part of a different argument with regards to who is responsible for terrorism in Pakistan.
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Please consider checking the dates bro. This is a news report from when the investigation was still in its initial stages. It was declared as a suicide bomb blast early on because of rumors. Even if there were a fire cracker people would've labelled it as a suicide blast because of the intensity of the situation.
He was fed the wrong information and jumped the gun with his statement. He later retracted it. Try again.
May be he was fed the right info and said the right thing and retracted because the truth was hurting the security image of Pakistan.
Cylinder blast,Transformer blast and what not have we heard.
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You exhibit such huge amounts of victim complex. Nobody wants to stop you hosting international cricket. The world isn't out to get Pakistan. People are just concerned over safety of foreign cricketers entering the country.
For the record I'm not even doubting the effectiveness of Pakistans security forces either. But you are trapped in a vicious cycle here. Players don't want to tour because by doing so they're seeing tanks and all sorts of incredibly high security measures protecting them which implies they are in danger. Yet those same security measures are needed otherwise nobody will go. Its a difficult situation, one that most certainly isn't helped by throwing out all criticism or objections as idiotic/fearful/conspiracy
And please, every single foreign department and security agency, poeple who's jobs and livelihoods depend on successfully analysing and assessing security risks, every one of them in the world has used outdated information and every single one is wrong?
Come on. I've gotten an insight into this country from this forum unlike any that I could've expected prior to joining but that doesn't mean I'm going to engage in fantasy and claim the country to be safe for all.
Yes their information is outdated, and to a certain extent is driven by political agenda. Iran is one of the safest countries in the world, yet many of these countries recommend against visiting Iran. The reason is simple, they tend blow a few targeting foreigners as huge cataclysms in developing countries and blow them out of proportion big time. Two Americans might get taken by Iranian government in Iran, yet the thousands of other travelers that successful visit that country mean nothing. Same applies to Pakistan. The number of foreigners attacked in Pakistan is an incredibly tiny number compared to the number of visitors.
I am sure the travel advisories and whatnot that you mention said the same things 10 or 20 years ago when cricket was still being playing in Pakistan. There are some things that never change, and these reports are like that. These reports are not backed up by up to date facts. They do not justify why a country is unsafe based on ground facts. All these advisories mention the generic boilerplate "there are still attacks" and so on. They are expecting Pakistan to be become a utopia before they change the advisories. If they do the math with up to date data they'll know that their advisories are complete crap. They just haven't bothered revising them because their perceptions have not changed in the last couple of years.
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It's funny how FICA didn't advise the Pakistan team to abandon the Xmas test in Melbourne when there was a high credible terror threat - especially after the Berlin attack.
Hmmmm I generally call a spade a spade and their statement is the same as the last few years. Total generic statement they thought they could just release to the press and get away with it.
Foriegn players have stayed in Lahore whilst working for tv such as Jonty Rhodes, Damien Martyn, Brian Lara, Ajay Jadeja, Andrew Symonds. Some stayed for 2 months.
PCB will not let FICA get away with it this time, the security offered to Zimbabwe is what is being offered guaranteed. Its not even needed Pakistanis in Lahore are peaceful, they really are. Don't judge them on 1 incident in the last 60 years of cricket.
Pakistan has helped so many countries get test level status like Bangladesh and Afghanistan, one of the first to tour Ireland. Always generous and forthcoming.
When PSL came round they offered all the good and even not so good foreign players a contract.
All Pakistan is asking for is to come visit and play some cricket for a couple of weeks and go back and decide for yourself what you think life is like in Pakistan and Lahore in particular.
I feel the Pakistani media could be doing so much more in promoting the country and changing perceptions.
Hmmmm I generally call a spade a spade and their statement is the same as the last few years. Total generic statement they thought they could just release to the press and get away with it.
Foriegn players have stayed in Lahore whilst working for tv such as Jonty Rhodes, Damien Martyn, Brian Lara, Ajay Jadeja, Andrew Symonds. Some stayed for 2 months.
PCB will not let FICA get away with it this time, the security offered to Zimbabwe is what is being offered guaranteed. Its not even needed Pakistanis in Lahore are peaceful, they really are. Don't judge them on 1 incident in the last 60 years of cricket.
Pakistan has helped so many countries get test level status like Bangladesh and Afghanistan, one of the first to tour Ireland. Always generous and forthcoming.
When PSL came round they offered all the good and even not so good foreign players a contract.
All Pakistan is asking for is to come visit and play some cricket for a couple of weeks and go back and decide for yourself what you think life is like in Pakistan and Lahore in particular.
I feel the Pakistani media could be doing so much more in promoting the country and changing perceptions.
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http://tribune.com.pk/story/1296946/pakistan-safe-international-cricket-malaysian-cricket-officials/
LAHORE: Officials of the visiting Malaysian cricket team have termed Pakistan a safe country for holding international cricket events and said they would visit the country again in April on a preparatory tour.
“Pakistan is an ideal country for staging top cricket events and as far as security is concerned it was perfectly alright and we enjoyed playing cricket here,” manager Shankar Retinam and coach Bilal Asad told APP as the team prepared for departure after a ten-day tour to Lahore.
Haris blitz helps NCA Youth XI level series
The Malaysian team, which was beaten 3-0 in the one-day matches by the NCA Youth XI gave a scare to the home team by winning the opening T20 match. However, NCA XI hit back and won the following T20 to level the series 1-1.
Shankar said Pakistan has been deprived of international cricket in last many years and called for resumption of international cricket in Pakistan.
“Things are quite good for international cricket [in Pakistan]. Our tour ended without any hiccups and we do not see any problem here as far as security is concerned,” he said.
NCA Youth XI sweep ODI series against Malaysia
The Malaysian team manager said Pakistan has a rich cricket history which is evident from its achievements at the international level and it has produced many big players of the game.
“It is unfortunate that international cricket is not being played in Pakistan and it is in the larger interest of the game that international cricket should resume here as early as possible,” he said. “If there will be no international cricket in the country, there will be less opportunities for the young players to learn and to compete with top players of world cricket in their own backyard.”
He said it was an honour for his team to play at the famous Gaddafi Stadium and his team learned a lot during the tour and got needed exposure and experience for its coming assignments in near future.
My hunger for runs has increased, says Haris Sohail
Coach Bilal Asad, a former first-class Pakistani player, endorsed the views of the manager and said there is no security issue in Pakistan to play cricket.
“Things are perfect here for staging and playing international cricket,” he said. “Before the start of the tour, we heard similar propaganda on security but we did not listen to it and finalised our tour to Pakistan for learning and betterment of our team keeping an eye on its future commitments.”
Both the team officials expressed their gratitude to Pakistan Cricket Board for hosting the Malaysian team.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/1296946/pakistan-safe-international-cricket-malaysian-cricket-officials/
LAHORE: Officials of the visiting Malaysian cricket team have termed Pakistan a safe country for holding international cricket events and said they would visit the country again in April on a preparatory tour.
“Pakistan is an ideal country for staging top cricket events and as far as security is concerned it was perfectly alright and we enjoyed playing cricket here,” manager Shankar Retinam and coach Bilal Asad told APP as the team prepared for departure after a ten-day tour to Lahore.
Haris blitz helps NCA Youth XI level series
The Malaysian team, which was beaten 3-0 in the one-day matches by the NCA Youth XI gave a scare to the home team by winning the opening T20 match. However, NCA XI hit back and won the following T20 to level the series 1-1.
Shankar said Pakistan has been deprived of international cricket in last many years and called for resumption of international cricket in Pakistan.
“Things are quite good for international cricket [in Pakistan]. Our tour ended without any hiccups and we do not see any problem here as far as security is concerned,” he said.
NCA Youth XI sweep ODI series against Malaysia
The Malaysian team manager said Pakistan has a rich cricket history which is evident from its achievements at the international level and it has produced many big players of the game.
“It is unfortunate that international cricket is not being played in Pakistan and it is in the larger interest of the game that international cricket should resume here as early as possible,” he said. “If there will be no international cricket in the country, there will be less opportunities for the young players to learn and to compete with top players of world cricket in their own backyard.”
He said it was an honour for his team to play at the famous Gaddafi Stadium and his team learned a lot during the tour and got needed exposure and experience for its coming assignments in near future.
My hunger for runs has increased, says Haris Sohail
Coach Bilal Asad, a former first-class Pakistani player, endorsed the views of the manager and said there is no security issue in Pakistan to play cricket.
“Things are perfect here for staging and playing international cricket,” he said. “Before the start of the tour, we heard similar propaganda on security but we did not listen to it and finalised our tour to Pakistan for learning and betterment of our team keeping an eye on its future commitments.”
Both the team officials expressed their gratitude to Pakistan Cricket Board for hosting the Malaysian team.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/1296946/pakistan-safe-international-cricket-malaysian-cricket-officials/
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UAE has lost its atmosphere of mid to late 90s. Don't want to see Pakistan play matches there anymore. Pakistan need to convince test members to at least play few T20 games and then take it from there on.
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"Another balancing act in terms of growing a tournament that we are seeing at the moment is the discussion around whether or not the Pakistan Super League final should be played in Lahore. Last year's event was a great success, and I will happily admit to being pleasantly surprised by how well it all played out, not only for our team but everyone involved. Arriving in the UAE, I wasn't sure exactly what to expect, but I left thinking this had been a great thing for Pakistan cricket and the game in general.
I can understand why the organisers of the PSL are eager to get as much of the tournament played in Pakistan as possible. But I also look at the success of the first edition, a massive television audience, and the terrific way in which the competition was organised and staged in the UAE. Overseas players are led very much by the advice they receive from players associations under the umbrella of FICA, and I would hate to see the final played without their contribution."
Brad Haddin gives clues about things to come?
I can understand why the organisers of the PSL are eager to get as much of the tournament played in Pakistan as possible. But I also look at the success of the first edition, a massive television audience, and the terrific way in which the competition was organised and staged in the UAE. Overseas players are led very much by the advice they receive from players associations under the umbrella of FICA, and I would hate to see the final played without their contribution."
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haddin was superb last session i hope he does well this year also .he would be great inspiration for our
young player and they will learn alot from him
as far statement is concerned about final in lahore looks like he won,t come if united reach final but thats
fine and honestly feeling they won,t reach final this session
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I expect the West Indian players to come. They're the only ones who aren't cowards.
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Pakistan really does get any love in international cricket.
I hope we we are making note of who is by our side in and who is not for when times are good again.
I hope we we are making note of who is by our side in and who is not for when times are good again.
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http://www.dawn.com/news/1309648/pu...s-to-ensure-watertight-security-for-psl-final
LAHORE: In order to ensure foolproof security arrangements for the high-profile final of the Pakistan Super League (PSL) in Lahore on March 5, the Punjab government has advised the Pakistan Cricket Board and Sports Board Punjab not to hold any other sporting event in the province during Feb 25-March 9, Dawn has learnt.
As a result, the Punjab Games, which were to be organised by the Punjab Olympic Association during the last week of February, in the wake of Punjab government’s advice, have now been postponed till March 22.
However, the government instructions can create problems for the PCB which is scheduled to hold its Grade-II events of Quaid-i-Azam Trophy for the regions and Patron’s Trophy for the departmental teams from March 1 and March 4, respectively, across the country, including Punjab, well-informed sources have told Dawn.
PCB may face scheduling issues in domestic programme
The security agencies in following the government advice are not showing any relaxation whatsoever, as the officials concerned want to take every possible step to make sure the PSL final in Lahore takes place without any untoward incident.
A trouble-free PSL decider at the Gaddafi Stadium on March 5, they reckon, would be mighty important in convincing foreign sports teams to again start touring Pakistan, which has seen almost no international sports action since the dastardly terror attack on Sri Lankan cricket squad at Lahore in March 2009.
On its part, the PCB confirmed earlier this month the shifting of PSL final from Dubai to Lahore — in an attempt to convince other cricket boards about the improving security situation in Pakistan so that world’s top cricketing teams resume their visit to the country.
As it is likely that some foreign players will also be part of the teams competing in the PSL final and a huge crowd is most likely to throng the Gaddafi Stadium, the Punjab government is not taking any chances in making watertight security arrangements.
Interestingly, the PSL authorities — in order to thwart even a minor security issues due to over-crowdedness — have also suggested significant increase in ticket prices for some of the main portions of the Gaddafi Stadium, including Imran Khan enclosure and Fazal Mahmood enclosure, for the March 5 finale. Tickets for these enclosures may well be sold for Rs10,000 or more, just to control the extraordinary rush of fans. Even the tickets of general enclosures having no chairs may not be sold for less than Rs500.
Dawn has also learnt that the PSL is minutely looking into making very precise travelling plans for PSL finalist teams. The authorities concerned, in this regard, are considering two options.
In the first option, both the teams could either arrive in Lahore in the wee hours of March 5, the day of the final, to play the match in the night and return to Dubai the same night, or they could travel for the decider on March 4.
According to sources, the stay of foreign players in Lahore will not be more than 36 hours.
Though such a short stay of foreign players in Pakistan for a major cricketing final may not be enough to convince foreign national cricket teams to come here to visit and play a full series in the country, it could help the PCB ensure other cricket boards about improved security situation in Pakistan.
The sources said that the strict orders for not holding any sports events in Punjab have been issued to ensure that no untoward incident takes place in any of the cities in Punjab which could in any way jeopardise the PSL final.
LAHORE: In order to ensure foolproof security arrangements for the high-profile final of the Pakistan Super League (PSL) in Lahore on March 5, the Punjab government has advised the Pakistan Cricket Board and Sports Board Punjab not to hold any other sporting event in the province during Feb 25-March 9, Dawn has learnt.
As a result, the Punjab Games, which were to be organised by the Punjab Olympic Association during the last week of February, in the wake of Punjab government’s advice, have now been postponed till March 22.
However, the government instructions can create problems for the PCB which is scheduled to hold its Grade-II events of Quaid-i-Azam Trophy for the regions and Patron’s Trophy for the departmental teams from March 1 and March 4, respectively, across the country, including Punjab, well-informed sources have told Dawn.
PCB may face scheduling issues in domestic programme
The security agencies in following the government advice are not showing any relaxation whatsoever, as the officials concerned want to take every possible step to make sure the PSL final in Lahore takes place without any untoward incident.
A trouble-free PSL decider at the Gaddafi Stadium on March 5, they reckon, would be mighty important in convincing foreign sports teams to again start touring Pakistan, which has seen almost no international sports action since the dastardly terror attack on Sri Lankan cricket squad at Lahore in March 2009.
On its part, the PCB confirmed earlier this month the shifting of PSL final from Dubai to Lahore — in an attempt to convince other cricket boards about the improving security situation in Pakistan so that world’s top cricketing teams resume their visit to the country.
As it is likely that some foreign players will also be part of the teams competing in the PSL final and a huge crowd is most likely to throng the Gaddafi Stadium, the Punjab government is not taking any chances in making watertight security arrangements.
Interestingly, the PSL authorities — in order to thwart even a minor security issues due to over-crowdedness — have also suggested significant increase in ticket prices for some of the main portions of the Gaddafi Stadium, including Imran Khan enclosure and Fazal Mahmood enclosure, for the March 5 finale. Tickets for these enclosures may well be sold for Rs10,000 or more, just to control the extraordinary rush of fans. Even the tickets of general enclosures having no chairs may not be sold for less than Rs500.
Dawn has also learnt that the PSL is minutely looking into making very precise travelling plans for PSL finalist teams. The authorities concerned, in this regard, are considering two options.
In the first option, both the teams could either arrive in Lahore in the wee hours of March 5, the day of the final, to play the match in the night and return to Dubai the same night, or they could travel for the decider on March 4.
According to sources, the stay of foreign players in Lahore will not be more than 36 hours.
Though such a short stay of foreign players in Pakistan for a major cricketing final may not be enough to convince foreign national cricket teams to come here to visit and play a full series in the country, it could help the PCB ensure other cricket boards about improved security situation in Pakistan.
The sources said that the strict orders for not holding any sports events in Punjab have been issued to ensure that no untoward incident takes place in any of the cities in Punjab which could in any way jeopardise the PSL final.
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A man of his word. All the best for the final guys.
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And it took place without incident. 
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A lot of goodwill generated too.
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Hats off to Sethi, and a moment of silence for people with Sethiphobia.
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Compare this it Ijaz Butt, total bufoon.
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Sethi is the best thing that has happened to Pakistan cricket in a long time.
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Lahore all dressed up.
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Well done to everyone involved..made a lot of people eat their words..Pakistan cricket is here to stay..
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Congratulations to sethi and co.
He delivered and it was a great occasion.
This final has opened up the doors for future PSL knockout matches to take place in Pak, even if intl. cricket doesn't make a return.
Excellent work.
He delivered and it was a great occasion.
This final has opened up the doors for future PSL knockout matches to take place in Pak, even if intl. cricket doesn't make a return.
Excellent work.
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