PSL is showing that Pakistan has youngsters who can play modern-day cricket.

[RyanRyan10]

Youngsters are stepping up in the PSL.


Yasir Khan scored 83 off 46
Kamran Ghulam 37 off 20

Mohammad Haris 47 off 28
Abdul Samad 33 off 11

At the same time, senior players like Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan scored at low strike rates in the same match.

Yesterday, Shamyl Hussain struck 52 off 24.

This clearly shows that Pakistan has young players who can bat with intent and match modern-day demands. These players need to be backed and given consistent opportunities if Pakistan wants to become a force again.

 

[Varun]

How strong are the attacks they are facing though? Do the attacks include bowlers who are part of other international sides?

 

[RyanRyan10]

How strong are the attacks they are facing though? Do the attacks include bowlers who are part of other international sides?

Babar & Rizwan faced the same attacks

 

[DeadlyVenom]

How strong are the attacks they are facing though? Do the attacks include bowlers who are part of other international sides?

They are good enough attacks for franchise level but nowhere near the top international attacks.

 

[RyanRyan10]

Arafat Minhas scored 25 (11) as a finisher

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Arafat Minhas scored 25 (11) as a finisher

This guy needs to be groomed as a future star. Potential match winner.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Good, now repeat it in international cricket, but for that they need to be given chances, but will it happen?

 

[Devadwal]

Youngsters are stepping up in the PSL.


Yasir Khan scored 83 off 46
Kamran Ghulam 37 off 20

Mohammad Haris 47 off 28
Abdul Samad 33 off 11

At the same time, senior players like Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan scored at low strike rates in the same match.

Yesterday, Shamyl Hussain struck 52 off 24.

This clearly shows that Pakistan has young players who can bat with intent and match modern-day demands. These players need to be backed and given consistent opportunities if Pakistan wants to become a force again.

Haven't watched Yasir khan so can't comment .

Kamarn Ghulam? Not a T20 but good player for ODI and test cricket .

Haris - perfect defination of grabage players. . watch enough to pass the judgement.

Abdul samad - recently watched against Bangladesh and he is nothing special same for shamyl hussain. .

 

[Devadwal]

Btw @The Bald Eagle where is second coming of inzy gone ? I haven't seen him since Asia cup

 

[Omer2002]

This guy needs to be groomed as a future star. Potential match winner.

Defo has potential to overtake nawaz for sure..look what a batsman bracewell has become in his old age

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Btw @The Bald Eagle where is second coming of inzy gone ? I haven't seen him since Asia cup

Hahah ...gone missing... hopefully will come back strong. Iqbal hamesha darr se he ata ha

 

[GudduBadmash]

It’s hard to argue with this

Babar and Rizwan have so far been shown up by the talented and fearless youngsters.


I know international cricket is different but can never begrudge a player when they perform

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Good, now repeat it in international cricket, but for that they need to be given chances, but will it happen?

There has to be some sort of pathway

We aren't like India or England at the moment where there is good strong experienced players who can shield and manage the youngsters.

Throwing youngsters into a damaged squad means they can be lambs to the slaughter.

We mismanaged bilateral cricket for many years by never resting seniors. Now when those seniors are done, there is nobody experienced who can take their place.

These youngsters are good, but we gotta invest further like a team tours, play them in low stakes bilaterals etc .

 

[usman.sandhu]

Youngsters are stepping up in the PSL.


Yasir Khan scored 83 off 46
Kamran Ghulam 37 off 20

Mohammad Haris 47 off 28
Abdul Samad 33 off 11

At the same time, senior players like Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan scored at low strike rates in the same match.

Yesterday, Shamyl Hussain struck 52 off 24.

This clearly shows that Pakistan has young players who can bat with intent and match modern-day demands. These players need to be backed and given consistent opportunities if Pakistan wants to become a force again.

Mohammad Haris and Kamran Ghulam are not youngsters, they've played for Pakistan and failed. Shamyl Hussain was brutally exposed in the recently concluded ODI series in Bangladesh.

And not to forget, the youngsters are playing against our rotten core (failed international players);also not to forget that PSL has really low quality players as in-form international stars are playing in IPL.

Sorry to burst your bubble but these performances mean nothing...

PSL is a very ordinary league with sub-standard cricket unfortunately...

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Mohammad Haris and Kamran Ghulam are not youngsters, they've played for Pakistan and failed. Shamyl Hussain was brutally exposed in the recently concluded ODI series in Bangladesh.

And not to forget, the youngsters are playing against our rotten core (failed international players);also not to forget that PSL has really low quality players as in-form international stars are playing in IPL.

Sorry to burst your bubble but these performances mean nothing...

PSL is a very ordinary league with sub-standard cricket unfortunately...

Mohammad Haris is 24. What is he if not a youngster?

 

[usman.sandhu]

Mohammad Haris is 24. What is he if not a youngster?

Tried and tested failure - we have enough of them please let's not promote him over and over again

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I don't mean to be cynical but PSL has unearthed many players for Pakistan in the past. Most of them are in our national team right now.... how many of them have gone on to become reliable match-winners for Pakistan?

I am all for celebrating good performances such as the ones OP named but at the same time we should also temper our expectations and not overhype. Just let them perform and if they do well they will make it to the team at some point and we will find out if they are good enough.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Tried and tested failure - we have enough of them please let's not promote him over and over again

It’s beyond stupid to write someone off who is just 24 years old, and has shown flashes of talent. Just because someone has failed doesn’t mean their career is over. If you learn from your failures, they can be a powerful step toward becoming a better player.

 

[usman.sandhu]

It’s beyond stupid to write someone off who is just 24 years old, and has shown flashes of talent. Just because someone has failed doesn’t mean their career is over. If you learn from your failures, they can be a powerful step toward becoming a better player.

It is beyond stupid to keep pushing for someone's inclusion who has shown time and again that he has no situational awareness, has a flawed technique, has no idea what to do against quality spin and most importantly refuses to work on his technique and address his flaws..

Mohammad Haris believes the only way to play cricket is "boom or bust" irrespective of what's happening in the match, we have enough of these one-hit wonders, please let's not glamorize our weaknesses by hyping up "tulle-baaz batsmen"..

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

It is beyond stupid to keep pushing for someone's inclusion who has shown time and again that he has no situational awareness, has a flawed technique, has no idea what to do against quality spin and most importantly refuses to work on his technique and address his flaws..

Mohammad Haris believes the only way to play cricket is "boom or bust" irrespective of what's happening in the match, we have enough of these one-hit wonders, please let's not glamorize our weaknesses by hyping up "tulle-baaz batsmen"..

Seems you have trouble reading because I don't recall pushing for his inclusion. Simply said that he is 24 and has alot of time on his hands to learn from his failures and get better. Unlike certain others I am not so dense where I act like I know how the future will turn out. That would make me beyond stupid.

 

[usman.sandhu]

Seems you have trouble reading because I don't recall pushing for his inclusion. Simply said that he is 24 and has alot of time on his hands to learn from his failures and get better. Unlike certain others I am not so dense where I act like I know how the future will turn out. That would make me beyond stupid.

I don't have trouble reading, I just happen to identify an agenda peddler when I see one and have the guts to call him out..

I'll say it again, and keep saying it so that agenda peddler like ge the message - stop pushing to include below par players in the team based on one-off fluke performances...

 

[Rana]

Shamyl
Sameer
Arafat
Momin
Ahmed Daniyal


All of these young guns have come to the party so far. Yasir is an experienced pro so I won’t count him as a youngster. He’s ready to play for Pakistan I recon, he’s on or around Sahibzada’s level.

 

[Savak]

Everyone felt the same way when Saim Ayub showed initial spark in the PSL. Everyone can see what Saim Ayub has done under pressure against the best teams on the big stage against the Asia Cup, T20 WC.

Unless the quality of the foreign stock is elite and the domestic players significantly up skill themselves, psl performances need to be taken with a pinch of salt.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

It’s frustrating to see our batters can’t even spank a long time retiree like Siddle.

 

[kron]

Shamyl
Sameer
Arafat
Momin
Ahmed Daniyal


All of these young guns have come to the party so far. Yasir is an experienced pro so I won’t count him as a youngster. He’s ready to play for Pakistan I recon, he’s on or around Sahibzada’s level.

Congrats @mominsaigol for making it in psl. I know he already has a stake in one of the clubs and comes from wealth anyway. This shows determination and strong mental fortitude given he never really needed to even tread this path.

 

[kron]

I don't mean to be cynical but PSL has unearthed many players for Pakistan in the past. Most of them are in our national team right now.... how many of them have gone on to become reliable match-winners for Pakistan?

I am all for celebrating good performances such as the ones OP named but at the same time we should also temper our expectations and not overhype. Just let them perform and if they do well they will make it to the team at some point and we will find out if they are good enough.

Just like how indian players are at a disadvantage because they don’t get exposure to other franchise leagues due to bcci’s rule about restricting Indian players from playing abroad, Pakistani players too are at a disadvantage because they are not facing the most elite bowlers in psl. Most top bowlers play in ipl as they get far more lucrative contracts and in addition, the timing of psl which happens to clash with ipl makes it even more difficult for them to buy any top foreign bowlers.

So both Indian and Pakistani players are at a disadvantage to be fair. If anything sena players have clear distinct advantage over these 2 since they all get to experience various conditions across the globe. IPL is basically their second home. That’s why SA players could win the test series too in India although India shot themselves in the foot anyway due to their own selection woes.

 

[Suleiman]

RyanRyan BhaiBhai has more faith in Pak talent than even the Pakistanis.

I understand where both are coming from, and in the case of Pakistanis, look, in such a cricket crazed nation it is only a matter of time where a team is put together that wins at least 1 big tournament or series in the next 5-10 years.

If 2017 can happen, that too as what was the worst team on paper losing series before and after the CT event against no halwa teams, just the best till the start to the final, then tournaments with easier odds can be won.

While hard to hope that Pakistan wins an Aussie series in Australia soon, since tests are more than having 2-4 good games straight like a tournament, the other prizes are still on the table. It only takes 3-5 truly world class players on the right day to click on a given day.

Again, keep it realistic, but this is sport.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Shamyl has certainly shown why he could be a good choice in all formats... He needs to keep quiet and focus on his shortcomings now.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I don't have trouble reading, I just happen to identify an agenda peddler when I see one and have the guts to call him out..

I'll say it again, and keep saying it so that agenda peddler like ge the message - stop pushing to include below par players in the team based on one-off fluke performances...

No you definitely have trouble reading. Best wishes on rectifying that.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Just like how indian players are at a disadvantage because they don’t get exposure to other franchise leagues due to bcci’s rule about restricting Indian players from playing abroad, Pakistani players too are at a disadvantage because they are not facing the most elite bowlers in psl. Most top bowlers play in ipl as they get far more lucrative contracts and in addition, the timing of psl which happens to clash with ipl makes it even more difficult for them to buy any top foreign bowlers.

So both Indian and Pakistani players are at a disadvantage to be fair. If anything sena players have clear distinct advantage over these 2 since they all get to experience various conditions across the globe. IPL is basically their second home. That’s why SA players could win the test series too in India although India shot themselves in the foot anyway due to their own selection woes.

That's true but Indian players at least get to play in the best and most competitive league in the world, where they face the best international players in the world and are exposed to high-pressure situations consistently. PSL is a good product but interms of quality and competitiveness I wouldn't put it in the same category as IPL or SA20. The gulf between PSL and those two leagues is pretty significant.

 

[Rana]

Everyone felt the same way when Saim Ayub showed initial spark in the PSL. Everyone can see what Saim Ayub has done under pressure against the best teams on the big stage against the Asia Cup, T20 WC.

Saim Ayub won Pakistan an ODI series in Australia and South Africa

 

[DeadlyVenom]

That's true but Indian players at least get to play in the best and most competitive league in the world, where they face the best international players in the world and are exposed to high-pressure situations consistently. PSL is a good product but interms of quality and competitiveness I wouldn't put it in the same category as IPL or SA20. The gulf between PSL and those two leagues is pretty significant.

You are quite right, how do you think we can bridge this gap and ensure these players get the exposure to high-quality modern cricket?

The default answer on the forum seems to be these lads must play mroe Pakistan FC cricket, but i believe it is a recipe for disaster.

 

[kron]

Saim Ayub won Pakistan an ODI series in Australia and South Africa

They were good wins tbh albeit with 2 3 key players missing for Sa and Aus?

Regardless great wins. Think Pakistan favours and prefer odi. Their best format

 

[kron]

You are quite right, how do you think we can bridge this gap and ensure these players get the exposure to high-quality modern cricket?

The default answer on the forum seems to be these lads must play mroe Pakistan FC cricket, but i believe it is a recipe for disaster.

A tours. And more franchise cricket overseas.

 

[shaz619]

Everyone felt the same way when Saim Ayub showed initial spark in the PSL. Everyone can see what Saim Ayub has done under pressure against the best teams on the big stage against the Asia Cup, T20 WC.

Unless the quality of the foreign stock is elite and the domestic players significantly up skill themselves, psl performances need to be taken with a pinch of salt.

Saim is out of nick at the moment, especially in T20’s, but did the sauces not pick up the return on our investment in him with the ODI’s, couldn’t the sauces identify in Saim you might have a suitable replacement for Fakhar Zaman in the future

 

[DeadlyVenom]

A tours. And more franchise cricket overseas.

I'm an advocate of more franchise cricket overseas but these leagues dnt often exist to give a chance to youngsters of other countries. They will pick same names over and over.

PCB should try some a team pentangular type cups but they are strained financially. It's one of the reasons I have been saying we should trim down domestic FC to free up costs to pursue these options.

This may get mocked but I think we should arrange a t10 psl in another window in Pakistan too. T10 cricket isn't "real" cricket but can help develop pressure power hitting skills.

 

[kron]

I'm an advocate of more franchise cricket overseas but these leagues dnt often exist to give a chance to youngsters of other countries. They will pick same names over and over.

PCB should try some a team pentangular type cups but they are strained financially. It's one of the reasons I have been saying we should trim down domestic FC to free up costs to pursue these options.

This may get mocked but I think we should arrange a t10 psl in another window in Pakistan too. T10 cricket isn't "real" cricket but can help develop pressure power hitting skills.

Yea I am not sure about T10.

I would say develop test wickets. Make it bouncy and get players to hit through the line. Lots of cuts, pulls need to be developed. Bowlers will build skills and would inevitably want to bowl fast given they have pitches that are conducive to fast bowling. Batters will be forced to adapt and learn to play strokes.

And lots of A tours. As much as possible for young gen.

Yea and I agree about quadrangular or triangular series etc