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PSL is too exciting and should not be watched by people with weak hearts

Saj said:
I was referring to the best innings so far - Ronchi, Smith and referring to Sanga's consistency.
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Yeah, i agree with your previous post. My point was even average players can do well with the right intent. Pitches are slow but not as bad as it made out to be
 
Another boring and sluggish match with a sub-par score of 183. What a poor and embarrassing league.
 
Well you can't say that wasn't exciting. The winning side seemed to change with every ball.
 
Frankly speaking that was a very poor and embarassing match of the ESL
 
Mate its PSL not ESL, goes to shows how uncircumspect you have been about the league. It was not at all embarassing perhaps it lacks high scoring batsmanship but thats about it. Other aspects of the game have been adequate and satisfactory.
 
Brilliant game!!! Thrilled to see a 19 yr old finished the game in style. His confidence right now must have sky rocketing..
 
sohailmm said:
Mate its PSL not ESL, goes to shows how uncircumspect you have been about the league. It was not at all embarassing perhaps it lacks high scoring batsmanship but thats about it. Other aspects of the game have been adequate and satisfactory.
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[MENTION=143344]babajee[/MENTION] :91:
 
sohailmm said:
Mate its PSL not ESL, goes to shows how uncircumspect you have been about the league. It was not at all embarassing perhaps it lacks high scoring batsmanship but thats about it. Other aspects of the game have been adequate and satisfactory.
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He's being sarcastic :srt
 
sohailmm said:
Mate its PSL not ESL, goes to shows how uncircumspect you have been about the league. It was not at all embarassing perhaps it lacks high scoring batsmanship but thats about it. Other aspects of the game have been adequate and satisfactory.
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Words like ESL and flukes are pseudo-calls. [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] is just trying to lure pseudos to the thread. [MENTION=143344]babajee[/MENTION] [MENTION=1650]Usman Chadda[/MENTION]
 
rizwanak said:
When sir viv hugged Hassan khan, best moment of the day
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That kid would probably remember it for the rest of his life. This is why PSL is important. Experts can go to hell.
 
Good match today and much-needed for the tournament.

Really pleased for Hassan Khan who is a good kid.
 
I have watched cricket since 1992 but can not remember a domestic game like this, the complete drama and confusion till the end.
 
A much needed great game in the PSL today!

A bonus that both teams managed to score 160+
 
IAJ said:
I have watched cricket since 1992 but can not remember a domestic game like this, the complete drama and confusion till the end.
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You forgot the game between Mumbai Indians vs Delhi Daredevil (where dravid threw his hat on the ground)
 
What a terrible match..I mean cricket shouldn't be exciting like this? Where are the 200 plays 201 scores??
 
Simmons messed it up. Never saw a bowler bowl a no ball on the last ball either!!!
 
[MENTION=143344]babajee[/MENTION] was today's match poor and embarrassing? I couldn't catch most of it. Seems like it went to super over so suggests it was really poor and embarrassing.
 
Mamoon said:
Regardless of what the standard of cricket is and what level it is being played at, it is inevitable that there will be some close encounters and tight finishes, and such matches are always exciting.

Nonetheless, it does not change the fact that the PSL is a minnow league. The standard of cricket is rubbish, and the overall package is very poor.
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Here is your answer [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION]
 
babajee said:
Here is your answer [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION]
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Haye mein sadqay jawan.... has our friend made any appearances in recent times? Seems like he always gets "busy" at the most appropriate times such as PSL exciting matches or CT final.
 
Empty stadium league? :))

I dont think people tune in to cricket to count the number of spectators
 
Sometimes feel we overhype the excitement and how many matches are close encounters, but with games like these, have to admit the PSL is up there in terms of dramatic close games.
 
HuzaifaE said:
Sometimes feel we overhype the excitement and how many matches are close encounters, but with games like these, have to admit the PSL is up there in terms of dramatic close games.
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Happened to watch a clip. Today's match was amateurish at best at the end..no professionalism from players organizers or umpires..
 
Bleedgreen4ever said:
What is your idea of a dramatic match?
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I could give you a whole list of exciting matches but today's was mediocre at best...batsmen and bowlers were trying to outdo each other in mediocrity...I haven't seen a match where a bowler bowls a huge no ball when 3 runs are required of the last ball...and Lahore batting was terrible as well not to mention running between wickets..the umpires and organizers too joined the mediocrity with no one knowing what was needed to win..so amateurish..
 
Oxfordchamp said:
I could give you a whole list of exciting matches but today's was mediocre at best...batsmen and bowlers were trying to outdo each other in mediocrity...I haven't seen a match where a bowler bowls a huge no ball when 3 runs are required of the last ball...and Lahore batting was terrible as well not to mention running between wickets..the umpires and organizers too joined the mediocrity with no one knowing what was needed to win..so amateurish..
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:facepalm:

Follow a different sport bro.
 
ESL, then poor and embarrassing, have tired to listen that. Any thing new for upcoming matches is ?
 
Oxfordchamp said:
I could give you a whole list of exciting matches but today's was mediocre at best...batsmen and bowlers were trying to outdo each other in mediocrity...I haven't seen a match where a bowler bowls a huge no ball when 3 runs are required of the last ball...and Lahore batting was terrible as well not to mention running between wickets..the umpires and organizers too joined the mediocrity with no one knowing what was needed to win..so amateurish..
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Some fans are never satisfied.

If it's one thing that I hate more than Misbah's captaincy it's pessimistic and negative fans
 
srh said:
CT final was one of the worst day ever in the history of cricket, just ask [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] :((
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Haha CT17 Final was something, was great viewing seeing us finally beat india and that too in the final :D. It was complete destruction though haha.

The first game that comes to mind however with that much emotion and excitement as yesterday was the W20 2016 Final, Carlos Brathwaite! It was the stuff of dreams, last over first 4 balls, 4 sixes!!
 
It appears that people are still struggling to distinguish between high quality cricket and entertaining/exciting cricket.

Entertainment and excitement can be cheap, but high quality cricket comes at a cost. PSL is a league that is largely composed of dead cricketers, looking to maximize their earnings after retiring from international cricket.

The quality of bowling is mediocre and the batting is minnow level. In addition, the pitches are not cut for T20 cricket and the less said about the empty seats, the better.

The production is pretty average as well. Overall, it is a poor product. Close matches will always be entertaining and exciting, irrespective of the level it is being played at. However, it does not say anything about the quality of cricket.

The ongoing World Cup qualifiers have had some nail-biting matches as well, but it is essentially minnows vs minnows. The PSL is no different in this regard. You can count the world class players in the PSL on your fingers, because 80% of the players on show are nothing but mediocre.

Of all the T20 leagues out there, PSL has by far the worst pool of overseas players. That itself make it the worst T20 league at the moment.
 
Mamoon said:
It appears that people are still struggling to distinguish between high quality cricket and entertaining/exciting cricket.

Entertainment and excitement can be cheap, but high quality cricket comes at a cost. PSL is a league that is largely composed of dead cricketers, looking to maximize their earnings after retiring from international cricket.

The quality of bowling is mediocre and the batting is minnow level. In addition, the pitches are not cut for T20 cricket and the less said about the empty seats, the better.

The production is pretty average as well. Overall, it is a poor product. Close matches will always be entertaining and exciting, irrespective of the level it is being played at. However, it does not say anything about the quality of cricket.

The ongoing World Cup qualifiers have had some nail-biting matches as well, but it is essentially minnows vs minnows. The PSL is no different in this regard. You can count the world class players in the PSL on your fingers, because 80% of the players on show are nothing but mediocre.

Of all the T20 leagues out there, PSL has by far the worst pool of overseas players. That itself make it the worst T20 league at the moment.
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BBL has much worse pool.

Plus you cannot rate a league on the basis of international cricketers it's not our fault that most stars are busy at this time.

The crowd is an issue but considering the low population of Pakistanis in Dubai even this much is a blessing
 
[MENTION=143344]babajee[/MENTION] I thought only the quality of cricket is bad, now the production is bad too :91:


If only we had DLP maximum sixer, or Gogo Pan masala four, or Shahi meva wicket, or Gul Ahmed banyaan team huddle:))
 
Really good matches overt he last 6 or 7 days. Keep it up!

Sad to see Lahore go but they did not go without a fight, instead they raged!
 
Bleedgreen4ever said:
BBL has much worse pool.

Plus you cannot rate a league on the basis of international cricketers it's not our fault that most stars are busy at this time.

The crowd is an issue but considering the low population of Pakistanis in Dubai even this much is a blessing
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The pool of foreign players is poor in the BBL as well, but they have an advantage over the PSL on other fronts. Firstly, the Australian domestic cricketers are superior to our domestic cricketers, and the infrastructure of the stadiums, the atmosphere and production quality of the BBL is at a different level to the PSL.

Of course, if the BBL is held in the UAE it will look poor. However, all things considered, it is better than the PSL and the BPL.

I agree that rating a league based on the quality of overseas players is not the only measure. However, the PSL falls flat in other measures as well.

Awful batting? - check
Mediocre bowling? - check
poor pitches? - check
poor atmosphere? - check
poor production? - check

All this talk of how the bowling is brilliant in the PSL which is why we see low scores etc. etc. is nonsense. The quality of bowling in the PSL is substandard at best. No contemporary world class fast bowler is playing in the PSL, in fact the only proven world class bowler on show is Tahir.

The low scores have more to do with the fact that the batting is comically bad. Overall, whether you take the quality of foreign players into account or not, PSL is the worst league out there.

However, it can and should surpass the BPL and the CPL if it is held in Pakistan.

Pakistan cricket is largely irrelevant today, but it is still a bigger brand than Bangladesh cricket and Caribbean cricket. However, it will never get close to the BBL and the IPL for different reasons. In fact, even BBL is lightyears below the IPL, which is a completely different ball game altogether.
 
I was surprised today by an Indian colleague of mine who generally never thinks much of PSL; he called me first thing in the morning and said "did you see the KKvLQ game last night?" - I was a bit embarrassed as I had gone to sleep before it finished!

Fact is that PSL is a huge thing for Pakistan and Pakistanis and long may it continue!
 
Syed1 said:
[MENTION=143344]babajee[/MENTION] I thought only the quality of cricket is bad, now the production is bad too :91:


If only we had DLP maximum sixer, or Gogo Pan masala four, or Shahi meva wicket, or Gul Ahmed banyaan team huddle:))
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IDK if anything can ever be good about PSL ever :)))

Such a crappy C-grade league
 
Mamoon said:
The pool of foreign players is poor in the BBL as well, but they have an advantage over the PSL on other fronts. Firstly, the Australian domestic cricketers are superior to our domestic cricketers, and the infrastructure of the stadiums, the atmosphere and production quality of the BBL is at a different level to the PSL.

Of course, if the BBL is held in the UAE it will look poor. However, all things considered, it is better than the PSL and the BPL.

I agree that rating a league based on the quality of overseas players is not the only measure. However, the PSL falls flat in other measures as well.

Awful batting? - check
Mediocre bowling? - check
poor pitches? - check
poor atmosphere? - check
poor production? - check

All this talk of how the bowling is brilliant in the PSL which is why we see low scores etc. etc. is nonsense. The quality of bowling in the PSL is substandard at best. No contemporary world class fast bowler is playing in the PSL, in fact the only proven world class bowler on show is Tahir.

The low scores have more to do with the fact that the batting is comically bad. Overall, whether you take the quality of foreign players into account or not, PSL is the worst league out there.

However, it can and should surpass the BPL and the CPL if it is held in Pakistan.

Pakistan cricket is largely irrelevant today, but it is still a bigger brand than Bangladesh cricket and Caribbean cricket. However, it will never get close to the BBL and the IPL for different reasons. In fact, even BBL is lightyears below the IPL, which is a completely different ball game altogether.
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Clearly, March 11 is still hurting.

You are in the shock and denial part of the grief cycle.

It’s ok, just take deep breaths. No need to worry.
 
babajee said:
Clearly, March 11 is still hurting.

You are in the shock and denial part of the grief cycle.

It’s ok, just take deep breaths. No need to worry.
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What was special about March 11? A substandard match that was made exciting due to comedy of errors. Lahore made a hash of what should have been a straightforward chase after the start that they got, and Karachi blew it away in the end in hilarious fashion.
 
Mamoon said:
What was special about March 11? A substandard match that was made exciting due to comedy of errors. Lahore made a hash of what should have been a straightforward chase after the start that they got, and Karachi blew it away in the end in hilarious fashion.
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Another example of shock and denial. :))
 
babajee said:
Another example of shock and denial. :))
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The irony is strong here.

PSL is low standard cricket. A fact that cannot be whitewashed or denied under the guise of excitement and entertainment. Close games and nail-biting finishes do not make up for the low quality overseas players (save for a few big name, dead cricketers), the empty stadiums and the poor pitches.
 
Mamoon said:
The irony is strong here.

PSL is low standard cricket. A fact that cannot be whitewashed or denied under the guise of excitement and entertainment. Close games and nail-biting finishes do not make up for the low quality overseas players (save for a few big name, dead cricketers), the empty stadiums and the poor pitches.
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Why don’t you voice your concerns to your favourite Najam Sethi?
 
babajee said:
Why don’t you voice your concerns to your favourite Najam Sethi?
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He has done as much as he can, but certain things are not in his control. He cannot force the Pakistani expats in the UAE to watch the games, he cannot force the top players in the world to play in the PSL because we do not have the money, and he is not a curator.

He is smart enough to know the limitations of the PSL, but the only thing that he can do is to work within the limitations.

Considering the constraints, no could have done a better job with the PSL than what he has done. If you want me to be positive, I would agree that considering how handicapped Pakistan cricket has become (although it is entirely self-inflicted), the PSL is as good as it could have been under the circumstances.

However, we need to accept the fact that it is a low quality league. Pakistan cricket has a poor image, we are not marketable, player are not willing to play in Pakistan and the PCB is a weak board both in terms of money and power.

All these factors has resulted in the mediocrity that the PSL is today. It is fine to lament these reasons and think of ways to make it better, but we should be prepared to call a spade what it is. Pretending that the PSL is great and is better than the IPL etc. will not help it become better in the future.
 
Mamoon said:
All these factors has resulted in the mediocrity that the PSL is today. It is fine to lament these reasons and think of ways to make it better, but we should be prepared to call a spade what it is. Pretending that the PSL is great and is better than the IPL etc. will not help it become better in the future.
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IPL isn’t anywhere near as good as you say it is.
 
pakistani pride said:
Why do you actually watch the PSL?
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I watch all cricket if time permits. Same reason why I follow Pakistan cricket to the point where I have to talk about it on the Internet every day, even though I know for a fact that Pakistan cricket is and will continue to be mediocre.
 
Given the circumstances we were in (before PSL started amd even now), PSL has done a remarkable job no matter what the critics say.

What is the purpose of such a private league:

1. To generate revenue for PCB (which will be spent on the brttermemt of cricket in thr country).
2. To generate money for our local players by giving them lucrative contracts which will ultimately help the players, their families and will inspire more and more people to play the game.
3. To produce quality young players by giving them a proper platform where they can compete against top quality intl players and can also learn from them by playing alongside the greats of the game and under different intl coaches.
4. To make PSL a brand which can be marketed not only in Pakistan but also across the globe where it can generate great interest and fulfil the top 3 points/goals mentioned above.
5. To provide entertainment for the Pakistani cricket fan base where they can enjoy the rivalries between different cities and parts of the country and also see their national playerd playing against each other and along other intl. Stars.



From the 5 main points above, I think PSL has done a great job in meeting the objectives of its purpose of existence. Point 4 is partially achieved where it has gained the local fan base interest but there is a long way to go before it becomes household name for the international crixket fans. PSL has already given Pakistan cricket some future stars in Shadab, Hassan Ali and we will see.many more inshallah.
So theres alot of great things that PSL has done but it needs to keep up the good work. Once the PSL comes to Pakistan completely, it will become the next big thing after IPL as Pakistan is the second largest market after India in the cricket world and the craze and passion is second to none. And the fact that people here are starved for cricket will only add to the value to the PSL.
 
how can you have 2 Super over matches in just few days, its poor, pathetic and cause of embarrassment for us.
[MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION]
 
Lonewarrior said:
how can you have 2 Super over matches in just few days, its poor, pathetic and cause of embarrassment for us.
[MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION]
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It is poor and embarrassing just because it is a Pakistani product, as per experts.
 
TBH, PSL has been getting better and better after a poor start this season.

PSL has really good bowling standard, better than most of the other leagues. I do not care what anyone says when I can form my own opinion by actually watching these matches.
 
Mamoon said:
I watch all cricket if time permits. Same reason why I follow Pakistan cricket to the point where I have to talk about it on the Internet every day, even though I know for a fact that Pakistan cricket is and will continue to be mediocre.
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You sound as if watching PSL is your job and you get paid it. Cant understand why some1 would watch a product one terms as mediocre.
 
[MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] It has been great, only negative I'd say is the attendance. Am sure more people came in the first two seasons, even on Jummah holiday not as many people about, where has everyone gone? Need to sort this out
 
Nidahas Trophy which I thought was a complete waste of time has better game atmosphere. That Bangladesh chase with thousands of fans roaring behind the home team made a really enjoyable viewing experience.

In PSL commentators try really hard to sound excited but it just feels so empty & forced.
 
Syed1 said:
[MENTION=143344]babajee[/MENTION] I thought only the quality of cricket is bad, now the production is bad too :91:


If only we had DLP maximum sixer, or Gogo Pan masala four, or Shahi meva wicket, or Gul Ahmed banyaan team huddle:))
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Gul Ahmed banyaan team huddle is a great idea :misbah
I suggest [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] as the mascot for this event :uakmal naiker is a must :yk
 
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srh said:
Gul Ahmed banyaan team huddle is a great idea :misbah
I suggest [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] as the mascot for this event :uakmal naiker is a must :yk
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Maybe that'll attract some new sponsors because it seems like a few are deserting already.

To be called "XYZ" six, there must be an "XYZ" willing to pay for it.

PSL will bend backwards to get someone willing to sponsor. LOL.
 
Because the UAE isn't Pakistan. How hard is it to understand? Indians only watch India and the UAE has more of them who can spend..
 
Great league great for pak, great for society and overall great for top domestic players to earn some cash for their families
 
Who cares how good PSL is compared to other leagues. If it's doing good for Pakistan cricket, that's enough. Set realistic targets and strive hard to achieve them. It doesn't matter whether it's better than other leagues or not.
 
Madness! I cannot believe they bowled a spinner for the final over! Incredible finish!
 
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