"PSL second only to IPL" : Ramiz Raja

[karthikc]

Former Pakistan batsman turned commentator Ramiz Raja has lauded the star-studded Pakistan Super League and has rated the T20 extravaganza second only to the bumper T20 attraction IPL. The third edition of the PSL gets underway today and Ramiz believes this edition will take PSL to even more unprecedented heights.
“Pakistan Super League has been a success story from all angles. Every year the player profile keeps increasing and improving and money keeps pouring in. Making their debuts in PSL 3 and vying for attention will be Chris Lynn, Colin Ingram and Jofra Archer. In per-match ratio term Pakistan Super League is second only to Indian Premier League. As the ride takes us into year three, you will get to see a larger canvas of players, a new team making an appearance and potential greats trying to outdo the known performers,” Ramiz, who played 57 Tests and 198 ODIs for Pakistan, wrote in his column for TOI.


Comprising five teams in the previous two editions, the addition of a sixth franchise, Multan Sultans promises to spice up the event. According to Ramiz, the addition of a formidable three-pronged left-arm pace battery that includes Mohammad Irfan, Sohail Tanveer and Junaid Khan gives them a straight-up advantage.
“Multan Sultans is the latest addition to the Pakistan Super League. It is now a six team event. Sultans’ strategy to pick three left arm quicks in Mohd. Irfan, Sohail Tanveer and Junaid Khan is an interesting one. This choice of angle though can be a double- edged sword. It is a plot bordering on lack of variety and as such a predictable line for opposition strikers to target and make hay with little effort,” Ramiz said.

“The spin cupboard however seems bare and shows inexperience with just Imran Tahir to lend help and hope. They have as strength, players who have international league experience in Kieron Pollard, Shoaib Malik, who will captain them, Sohail Tanveer and Kumar Sangakkara. It could be a good group to prop up a new side and provide calmness to the dugout.”

The addition of former West Indies captain and considered the most attacking batsman in the history of the game, Viv Richards as the mentor of Quetta Gladiators bodes well for the franchise that has reached the final of the PSL in its previous two editions.
“Quetta Gladiators have Viv Richards as a mentor and that’s where they beat the rest of the field as you couldn’t head hunt a greater sage than the great man. He has been an inspiration for Gladiators and has worked well with captain Sarfraz Ahmad. Quetta Gladiators have been the finalist in both the PSLs. Their win percentage is best for any team and this could be a result of a consistent team selection. Their three major overseas players Watson, Pietersen and Rossouw are available throughout the tournament which is an added advantage. They also have two of the world’s most exciting T20 stars in Rashid Khan and Jofra Archer, albeit for a few matches. Jofra was a steal for a few thousand grand, as a replacement player after being sold for $1.1 million at the IPL,” Ramiz said.

Defending Champions Peshawar Zalmi, led by the two-time World T20 winning captain Darren Sammy, start as favourites. Possessing a lethal bowling attack, the franchise will be extremely tough to overcome.

“Peshawar Zalmi are the current champions of the Pakistan Super League. The word Zalmi is a Pashto language word meaning youth. From the logo of the team which is a fusion of traditional Peshawari turban with cricket stumps to performance, Zalmi’s are every bit Puktoons: proud and hard working, playing with a never-say die approach and youthfully entertaining,” Ramiz said.

“Sammy, their captain, had become the toast of the nation when he braved security to travel to Lahore and won the title without Shahid Afridi, who sat out injured. Peshawar’s strength is in its bowling. Wahab Riaz is the leading wicket taker in the tournament with 30 wickets and he will share the spoils with Pakistan’s latest poster boy Hassan Ali. They will be followed by Shakib-Al-Hasan and Muhammad Asghar to suppress the strikers with left arm spin. Their major problem though will be unavailability of players. Evin Lewis, Tamim Iqbal and Shakib-Al-Hasan will be partly available. Another headache will be to find and field an all-rounder in the playing XI since Afridi has moved to Karachi Kings and Sammy has shown reluctance to bowl.”

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...ly-to-ipl-ramiz-raja/articleshow/63024687.cms

 

[ipl_fan]

BBL and CPL say HI

 

[Madplayer]

BBL and CPL say HI

Pakistani talent alone makes PSL better than BPL and CPL quality wise.

 

[Savak]

Initially i thought Big Bash Leagues and County League might be better but the atmosphere in the county leagues is just like county cricket i.e. very relaxed and measured.

There is also no hype in Big Bash but the quality of cricket and the crowd is electric.

Bangladesh Premier League is poor

I would the following is the correct order

1) IPL
2) Big Bash League
3) PSL
4) CPL
5) BPL

PCB should compensate players for missing out on BPL and perhaps CPL but make them available for Big Bash and the County Leagues purely on the basis of quality of cricket exposure.

 

[Salman]

Lack of booze, scantly clad women, partying and night clubs is what PSL is lacking to compete with the IPL, nothing else!

 

[Hitman]

Lack of booze, scantly clad women, partying and night clubs is what PSL is lacking to compete with the IPL, nothing else!

Not the money, right?

 

[Syed1]

Can't argue with that. IPL is clearly ahead but PSL is definitely better than BPL, Natwest T20, Ram Slam, BBL and CPL. Heck most of the major talents in BPL and CPL are Pakistani exports. I'm sure PSL will get even more "enjoyable" once it moves to Pakistan.

 

[DeadBall]

In terms of quality I'd say BBL and PSL are about equal and have high quality close matches. Although in the BBL it is because of the batting and in the PSL it is due to the bowling.

 

[Salman]

Not the money, right?

The money is already there, PSL will always lack the other bits to make the whole package appealing to the international cricket crowd. India did have to pimp themselves out a fare little bit in the beginning to get to where they are with the IPL.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Lack of booze, scantly clad women, partying and night clubs is what PSL is lacking to compete with the IPL, nothing else!

Also lacking are Steve Smith Mitchell Starc ABDV Rabada and a whole list of other star players from around the world. But let that not cloud your opinion of IPL.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

For me BBL is also a bit better quality wise but PSL has it’s own place IMO and I love it.

IPL
BBL
PSL and CPL
other leagues.

That’s how I would rank the leagues.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The money is already there, PSL will always lack the other bits to make the whole package appealing to the international cricket crowd. India did have to pimp themselves out a fare little bit in the beginning to get to where they are with the IPL.

What is the purse of a PSL team? What is the amount of money received by the highest paid IPL player?

I see players from every country lining up to get a IPL contract, didnt think they wete pimping themselves. Can you tell me who did India pimp itself to? Remember you said India and not IPL or bcci, even though almost all IPL teams are owned by Indians or Indian companies.

IPL is there where it is today because bcci and Indians invested money in it so that foreign players find it attractive monetarily to make it their priority league.

 

[cricketjoshila]

For me BBL is also a bit better quality wise but PSL has it’s own place IMO and I love it.

IPL
BBL
PSL and CPL
other leagues.

That’s how I would rank the leagues.

Pretty much agree with this.

 

[Kohli The King of Chase]

Ipl
bbl
psl
cpl
bpl

 

[Oxfordchamp]

Atleast ramiz was not stupid enough to say psl is better than IPL...

 

[wasimjunior]

In terms of quality I'd say BBL and PSL are about equal and have high quality close matches. Although in the BBL it is because of the batting and in the PSL it is due to the bowling.

Comical. BBL standard arguably worse than BPL. Aus players not available and you have some second rate club players who can’t catch

 

[Adijazz1706]

BBL has even less foreigners than the PSL, the stadia and broadcast are better and that's it.

 

[Madplayer]

In terms of quality I'd say BBL and PSL are about equal and have high quality close matches. Although in the BBL it is because of the batting and in the PSL it is due to the bowling.

BBL also has good crowds unlike PSL.

 

[Savak]

Big Bash League doesn't really pay that high. I think the players are paid at par in both BBL and PSL

 

[BreadPakoda]

So BBL was much better than IPL until PSL arrived.
Now BBL is inferior to both IPL and PSL.

 

[English August]

New Pakistani benchmark for excellence ==> being second only to India!

Well played, boys!

 

[Bleedgreen4ever]

Ipl
bbl
psl
cpl
bpl

Correct

 

[Hitman]

The money is already there, PSL will always lack the other bits to make the whole package appealing to the international cricket crowd. India did have to pimp themselves out a fare little bit in the beginning to get to where they are with the IPL.

As much as the IPL? Here is your post -

Lack of booze, scantly clad women, partying and night clubs is what PSL is lacking to compete with the IPL, nothing else!

Your post clearly mentions the factors, and it also says there are no other factors (which includes money) that are preventing the PSL to compete with the IPL.

 

[Nitya85]

Pakistani talent alone makes PSL better than BPL and CPL quality wise.

You right.
Pakistan me talent to bahot hai

 

[Gotham Cronie]

Lack of booze, scantly clad women, partying and night clubs is what PSL is lacking to compete with the IPL, nothing else!

Somebody's never been to Dubai....

 

[Saj]

I think the BBL is still ahead of the PSL for now.

 

[OoparCut]

I think the BBL is still ahead of the PSL for now.

CPL is quite good - they have the same problem as PSL in terms of slow pitches, but the league is competitive, the players are having fun the caribbean and it shows. Talent pool is quite impressive as well.

I think the PSL needs to grow a lot more before it can claim the 3rd spot.

 

[indipper]

Define better!

 

[waleed88]

If our investors stop investing in rubbish crap like Masters of the Cricket league and T10 cricket league, we can invest in the PSL even further, and somewhat increase the revenue generated, we can somehow attract bigger stars since the rostrum is more clear for Foreign players to enter with the addition of news teams.

Multan Sultans formed basically a rejection XI from the other teams of the PSL, which allowed other teams to invest in new players.

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

As other has mentioned it as well I think BBL is ahead of PSL as well. Great domestic talent + great crowds as well. I saw a few games and stadiums were pretty much full. Another aspect of BBL i like is they are not reliant on overseas talent. Only 2 overseas players pr. team.

Once PSL is fully shifted to Pakistan and every team plays at their hometown than it will be in same league as BBL.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Pakistan commentators/players/admins should refrain from making such claims. PSL is still in its infancy and haven’t reached the full potential yet. It has no doubt to be second best league in terms of pure entertainment and cash but as of now they are probably joint 3rd with CPL. Maybe when PSL is completely moves to Pakistan then we can compared to BBL. Until then it just claims without any substance.

 

[AssassinatedDevil]

IPL is the undisputed king for now.

BBL is good but not many foreign players which is the problem. They have players from New Zealand, England and West Indies but those are mostly players that don't play for their national teams anymore. There are exceptions ofcourse like Shadab khan and Rashid Khan but BBL teams don't sign up players from the subcontinent. Their Aussie players who play for the national side aren't able to play in the BBL because of their cricketing calendar. They are mostly playing bilaterals against other nations.


PSL will continue and grow and I have no doubt it will eclipse BBL purely because of the amount of international players in it.

 

[Savak]

Pakistan commentators/players/admins should refrain from making such claims. PSL is still in its infancy and haven’t reached the full potential yet. It has no doubt to be second best league in terms of pure entertainment and cash but as of now they are probably joint 3rd with CPL. Maybe when PSL is completely moves to Pakistan then we can compared to BBL. Until then it just claims without any substance.

I think PSL is better than CPL already. The correct ranking would be

1) IPL
2) Big Bash
3) PSL
4) County
5) CPL
6) BPL

 

[Savak]

The criteria has to be the following

1) Cash, Brand, Monetary Value
2) Quality and Amount of Foreign players
3) Salaries paid to players
4) Viewership
5) Quality of playing wickets. Runs scored, Wickets taken, Fielding and Fitness standards of players

 

[PakLFC]

IPL has become saturated. PSL's best days are still ahead of them, it can still grow lots more in coming years.

 

[CanadianG00se]

IPL has become saturated. PSL's best days are still ahead of them, it can still grow lots more in coming years.

Still IPL is far greater than any other league. Heck even if u combined all the leagues, still wouldn’t even be half the money IPL is generating. As of now IPL is even bigger than ICC events in terms of money. Now, I wouldnt call that being ‘staurated’

 

[PakLFC]

Still IPL is far greater than any other league. Heck even if u combined all the leagues, still wouldn’t even be half the money IPL is generating. As of now IPL is even bigger than ICC events in terms of money. Now, I wouldnt call that being ‘staurated’

In my view the IPL is saturated but everything eventually becomes like that. With India being the largest Cricket playing country it is only natural for the IPL to be the most successful. India is bigger then all other Cricket playing countries combined as well.

 

[CanadianG00se]

In my view the IPL is saturated but everything eventually becomes like that. With India being the largest Cricket playing country it is only natural for the IPL to be the most successful. India is bigger then all other Cricket playing countries combined as well.

On what grounds is Ipl saturated to you, assuming you follow IPL closely. If not, then your opinion is purely based on personal grounds and have no facts to back it up.

 

[sjahmed23]

PSL needs to move to Pakistan with the level of broadcasting seen in UAE.

 

[Mp812]

So BBL was much better than IPL until PSL arrived.
Now BBL is inferior to both IPL and PSL.

Ouch that hurt

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Crowd attendance wise IPL > BBL >> CPL > PSL
In terms of pay IPL >>> others (someone can arrange bbl, bpl, cpl, psl order as i am not aware how much are avg players paid here)

I will not talk about quality as these are T20's

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

PSL needs to move to Pakistan with the level of broadcasting seen in UAE.

How many USD does a player make on avg in PSL per season?

 

[MMHS]

Crowd attendance wise IPL > BBL >> CPL > PSL
In terms of pay IPL >>> others (someone can arrange bbl, bpl, cpl, psl order as i am not aware how much are avg players paid here)

I will not talk about quality as these are T20's

Actually, I myself am surprised to notice BPL is 3rd in the list among all cricket leagues in terms of attendance. For 2015 (BPL), 2016 (IPL), 2016-17 (BBL) figures -

Total: IPL 1,544K (60 games), BBL 1,054K (35 game), BPL 742K (34 games)
Per game: BBL 30K, IPL 26K, BPL 22K
Per week: IPL 77K, BPL 65K, BBL 60K

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Actually, I myself am surprised to notice BPL is 3rd in the list among all cricket leagues in terms of attendance. For 2015 (BPL), 2016 (IPL), 2016-17 (BBL) figures -

Total: IPL 1,544K (60 games), BBL 1,054K (35 game), BPL 742K (34 games)
Per game: BBL 30K, IPL 26K, BPL 22K
Per week: IPL 77K, BPL 65K, BBL 60K

Thanks mate, any idea how much are players paid on avg in BBL, BPL?

 

[MMHS]

Thanks mate, any idea how much are players paid on avg in BBL, BPL?

No idea, but BPL's payment is obnoxiously high for two reasons - 1. there is no individual cap, teams are allowed a total cap which allows teams to over pay few top players. 2. They are using "pay as you play" concept, which allows them to hire players even for 2 games at obnoxiously high pay, as long the season total pay out doesn't exceed limit.

To ensure payment, from last year they are asking franchise to provide bank draft to BPL for their possible highest cap - BPL'll settle the payment.

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

Who cares about all XPLs except IPL...all are same...low quality and contrymen hyped.

 

[Mamoon]

IPL should not be compared to the BBL, PSL, BPL and CPL.

It is first world vs third world type discussion etc. BBL, PSL, BPL and CPL are competing with each other; they are not competing against the IPL.

After 3 years, the PSL has been as good as it could have been under the circumstances, but we need to add more teams periodically and produce flatter wickets.

150-160 is generally match winning in the PSL and this makes for boring T20 cricket. Now this is subjective of course, especially for those who view the PSL with their green-tinted glasses and appreciate the "balance between bat and ball", but the general public prefers high scoring T20s.

PSL will increase in popularity if we score more 200+ scores, more sixes and hundreds.

 

[mmkextreme_1]

IPL should not be compared to the BBL, PSL, BPL and CPL.

It is first world vs third world type discussion etc. BBL, PSL, BPL and CPL are competing with each other; they are not competing against the IPL.

After 3 years, the PSL has been as good as it could have been under the circumstances, but we need to add more teams periodically and produce flatter wickets.

150-160 is generally match winning in the PSL and this makes for boring T20 cricket. Now this is subjective of course, especially for those who view the PSL with their green-tinted glasses and appreciate the "balance between bat and ball", but the general public prefers high scoring T20s.

PSL will increase in popularity if we score more 200+ scores, more sixes and hundreds.

Number 1 thing that needs to happen for the PSL to get to the next level is coming back to Pakistan.

The atmosphere in these games in the UAE is just not there.

PCB really need to get there act together and renovate/build new stadiums.

PSL also needs to increase player pay, this will put more pressure by players on their boards to allow them a free window to come play in the PSL. I think the platinum category player needs to be making around 500-750K.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Number 1 thing that needs to happen for the PSL to get to the next level is coming back to Pakistan.

The atmosphere in these games in the UAE is just not there.

PCB really need to get there act together and renovate/build new stadiums.

PSL also needs to increase player pay, this will put more pressure by players on their boards to allow them a free window to come play in the PSL. I think the platinum category player needs to be making around 500-750K.

I think player pay for each category will be increased from next season

 

[mhraja]

IPL is a total different thing. PSL or any other league can't compete with IPL.

However PSL has been doing good compared to other leagues. BBL is being considered better because of the good crowds etc. Once PSL is back in Pakistan it would be very similar if not more. Other day there was a friendly between IU and QG and it was advertised well for a week. Result was a full house in Pindi stadium.

Yes better batting wickets could add entertaining factor to it. I remember last year Sharjah leg with small boundaries and flat wickets lit up the PSL and everything after that was great to watch.

 

[mmkextreme_1]

I think player pay for each category will be increased from next season

Source?

What is the pay for the Platinum category?

 

[mmkextreme_1]

IPL is a total different thing. PSL or any other league can't compete with IPL.

However PSL has been doing good compared to other leagues. BBL is being considered better because of the good crowds etc. Once PSL is back in Pakistan it would be very similar if not more. Other day there was a friendly between IU and QG and it was advertised well for a week. Result was a full house in Pindi stadium.

Yes better batting wickets could add entertaining factor to it. I remember last year Sharjah leg with small boundaries and flat wickets lit up the PSL and everything after that was great to watch.

I just hope PCB can get better stadiums for these games. With HD broadcast quality, only then can we have a successful staging of a great PSL in Pakistan.

For example, that IU vs QG exhibition match had pathetic broadcast quality and the stadium was embarrassing. School stadiums here in the US are MUCH better.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Source?

What is the pay for the Platinum category?

I heard it on some news channel a few days ago but nothing on the net,tbf.

Currently pay for the platinum category is $250000

 

[mmkextreme_1]

I heard it on some news channel a few days ago but nothing on the net,tbf.

Currently pay for the platinum category is $250000

Oh ok. Would be great and would definitely be a greater incentive for other players to join.

I keep reading online the pay for the platinum category is $140k, how is that so? Or did they increase it?

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Oh ok.

I keep reading online the pay for platinum category is $140k, how is that so? Or did they increase it?

Just read up on it.In the first season Icon players were paid 200000-250000.I was confusing this with that.Wikipedia states that Platinum players are payed between 140000-210000,but it's wikipedia so don't know the truth in that

 

[Savage]

"PSL second only to IPL" : Ramiz Raja

This probably would've been true if PSL was taking place in Pakistan.PSL is arguably third after IPL & BBL.

 

[sjahmed23]

How many USD does a player make on avg in PSL per season?

Why should money matter? People pay to watch premier talent and skills and not how much money each player makes.... you can throw millions of dollars at a mediocre player but that will still make him mediocre.

 

[Bhaijaan]

BBL used to be the best premier league in the world on PakPassion until PSL arrived.

Now it's behind PSL. I like these guys.

 

[rhony]

IPL is the undisputed king for now.

BBL is good but not many foreign players which is the problem. They have players from New Zealand, England and West Indies but those are mostly players that don't play for their national teams anymore. There are exceptions ofcourse like Shadab khan and Rashid Khan but BBL teams don't sign up players from the subcontinent. Their Aussie players who play for the national side aren't able to play in the BBL because of their cricketing calendar. They are mostly playing bilaterals against other nations.


PSL will continue and grow and I have no doubt it will eclipse BBL purely because of the amount of international players in it.

This..There is more interest in PSL than BBL in Asia where most of the money is

 

[rhony]

Also lacking are Steve Smith Mitchell Starc ABDV Rabada and a whole list of other star players from around the world. But let that not cloud your opinion of IPL.

Forget that. No other league has Kohli, Dhoni, Rohit and co. Indian players are the biggest draw because of the sheer number of supporters

 

[Gotham Cronie]

If the PSL ever got as lengthy and bloated like the IPL, I would lose interest.

 

[JaDed]

"PSL second only to IPL" : Ramiz Raja

This probably would've been true if PSL was taking place in Pakistan.PSL is arguably third after IPL & BBL.

True , Pakistani crowd is way better than what we get in UAE, it was better when they changed locations looked good last time.

 

[PakLFC]

On what grounds is Ipl saturated to you, assuming you follow IPL closely. If not, then your opinion is purely based on personal grounds and have no facts to back it up.

I do not watch the IPL at all. Saturated is an opinion, it can not be defined in a particular way. My definition of it is it's reached it's fullest potential and can not grow any more.

 

[gani999]

In a saner world, we could have had an IPPL - India Pakistan Premier League. This would be a mega event involving ten teams from India and six from Pakistan, and would feature top players from all around the cricketing world. It would run for two months, with matches being held in both countries, and the finals alternating between the two countries every year. It would be without doubt, the finest T-20 tournament in the world. It would be jointly organized by the BCCI and PCB, with both boards sharing the proceeds.

All right, time to stop dreaming now

 

[Savak]

PSL has huge potential to get to a comfortable second place. We haven't even tapped into rich Pakistani business men like Sadruddin Hashwani, Mian Mohammad Mansha Natt, Malik Riaz, Shahid Khan (USA), inviting rich Arabs from Saudi-a-Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait and co, maybe even a few Chinese investors to buy PSL Franchises. I can easily envision a situation where we have a PSL Franchise team named after the top 3-4 cities from every province in Pakistan and where we have like 16-20 teams where we have the best chance of tapping into every possible talent in Pakistan and inviting foreign players to take part.

The PSL has not even been played in Pakistan yet. So much untapped potential. The amount that the broadcasters will offer in TV rights and the sponsors will offer to the PCB will skyrocket.

 

[KingKhanWC]

For Pakistan fans PSL is the best. I dont understand how any Pak fan inc Rameez can say IPL is better. There are no Pakistan players so would any Pak fan think it's better for them?

Money, trashy bollywood music, girls dancing or fireworks doesn't make a sporting tournament, it's the quality of sport on offer.


Karachi Kings or any PSL team could easily beat any IPL team. It's a shame the champions league ended , probably because the IPL teams didn't as well as the Indians hoped.

 

[CanadianG00se]

For Pakistan fans PSL is the best. I dont understand how any Pak fan inc Rameez can say IPL is better. There are no Pakistan players so would any Pak fan think it's better for them?

Money, trashy bollywood music, girls dancing or fireworks doesn't make a sporting tournament, it's the quality of sport on offer.


Karachi Kings or any PSL team could easily beat any IPL team. It's a shame the champions league ended , probably because the IPL teams didn't as well as the Indians hoped.

And then your Alarm goes off and you wake up.

 

[English August]

I do not watch the IPL at all. Saturated is an opinion, it can not be defined in a particular way. My definition of it is it's reached it's fullest potential and can not grow any more.

You probably know nothing about marketing if you think the IPL is saturated. I can list down a number of innovations it hasn't tried right away. If the IPL hired a proper marketing / strategy firm to do this, they'll of course come up with 20 times more ideas:

- Still only 8 weeks in a year, can do much more
- Still only addresses primarily male population. Hasn't done enough to attract girls / women. That's 50% of population unaddressed / untapped
- No women's league
- No youth league
- Still predominantly a metro league. Doesn't tap into enthusiasm in class B and class C towns
- Still a single tier league. Doesn't have multiple divisions like the EPL
- Only limited to 20/20 cricket. Can try other formats
- Television the primary source of revenue. Hasn't done much in online gaming, merchandising etc.
- Not doing enough to tap international / NRI markets

 

[KingKhanWC]

And then your Alarm goes off and you wake up.

Indians are the ones who are having nightmares playing against Pakistan.

I dont watch the IPL so why not post the the XI for last years winners and explain to me why you think they would beat any PSL XI?

 

[English August]

And then your Alarm goes off and you wake up.

Here's Pakistani narrative on IPL / T20 leagues for past 10 years.

- IPL 1: Pakistani players were included, so IPL was the best thing since sliced bread.
- IPL 2: Pakistani players not included (not because India didn't want them, because their board acted smart and refused to give NOC). So IPL suddenly became corrupt, full of Bollywood tamasha etc. In parallel they continued whining why they were not included
- IPL 3/4/5: Optimism every year that Pak players would be included (so IPL becomes good) and then whining when they are not included (IPL becomes terrible)
- Now at some point PSL starts taking shape. So now T20 is the most exciting form of the game (which it was not when IPL was the only game in town)
- When PSL is hosted in Dubai, it's perfectly fine; but when IPL was forced to move to RSA for one season (due to elections in India), it was seen as a failure of IPL !!!
- Etc
- Etc
- Etc

You guys need to make up your mind!!!!

 

[MMHS]

In a saner world, we could have had an IPPL - India Pakistan Premier League. This would be a mega event involving ten teams from India and six from Pakistan, and would feature top players from all around the cricketing world. It would run for two months, with matches being held in both countries, and the finals alternating between the two countries every year. It would be without doubt, the finest T-20 tournament in the world. It would be jointly organized by the BCCI and PCB, with both boards sharing the proceeds.

All right, time to stop dreaming now

You mean APL - Asian Premier League. 16 teams in 2 divisions : 8 from India, 4 from PAK and 4 based in Dhaka, Colombo, Dubai & Chittagong/Kathmandu/Abu Dhabi with all Asian players considered as “home grown” (that’s Kohli can play for Karachi, Dubai, Colombo or Dhaka franchise, still considered as local player).

 

[big_gamer007]

You mean APL - Asian Premier League. 16 teams in 2 divisions : 8 from India, 4 from PAK and 4 based in Dhaka, Colombo, Dubai & Chittagong/Kathmandu/Abu Dhabi with all Asian players considered as “home grown” (that’s Kohli can play for Karachi, Dubai, Colombo or Dhaka franchise, still considered as local player).

Too idealistic, makes you depressed seeing what could have been and what currently is.. smh

 

[CanadianG00se]

Indians are the ones who are having nightmares playing against Pakistan.

I dont watch the IPL so why not post the the XI for last years winners and explain to me why you think they would beat any PSL XI?

All i will say is common players that represent both teams will have to make a choice and you dont need rocket science to know who they would chose.

Players that do not feature in IPL but are part of PSL mostly second choice players. Anyways lets compare two Champion teams from last year

PSL
Peshawar Zalmi

D Malan
K Akmal (WK)
M Samuels
M Hafeez
Khushdil Shah
I Ahmed
D Sammy (c)
C Jordan
W Riyaz
Hasan Ali
M Ashgar

Bowling looks pretty decent with Hasan Ali and Jordan in the ranks. D Sammy with his military trundler will get carted around, whereas W Riyaz will undo all the hardwork Hasan and Jordan would do. I havent followed M. Ashgar so not sure about him but he is no Shane Warne that will rip through lineups.

Batting is pretty thin with Malan and Kakmal opening. Samuels is perhaps the weakest link in this lineup as he takes sometime before he gets going that is if he gets going. Hafeez can have one good day followed by some mediocre numbers, on his day deadly but very inconsistent.

Now lets compared with IPL Champs Mumbai Indians

L Simmons
P Patel
A Rayudu/ Nitish Rana
R Sharma(c)
KH Pandya
K Pollard
H Pandya
K Sharma
M Johnson
J Bumrah
L Malinga/McClenagan

Batting is very strong compared to PZ. Simmons may not be a big name in business but he can provide steady starts, P Patel could play good knock but very inconsistent. A Rayudu or N Rana both are pretty good strikers and can clear the long rope specially against spinners. However, they arent reliable, not just yet. R Sharma on his day is probably the most dangerous batsman going around. He alone can take the game away from PZ in matter of 2-3 overs. Hasan Ali magic can restraint him but if he is bowled out 2 overs upfront then he may not bowl in middle overs. Then comes the trinity of Dasher, Pandya brothers and Pollard. These three actually were pivotal of MI’s success last year. All three can also bowl one or two over if other bowlers are having off day.
M Johnson and Bumrah were top bolwers of last year’s IPL. Malinga may not be as good as he was yesteryears so He would swap with McClenagan who is definately an upgrade over ageing Malinga.

Well in my view MI start as heavy favourites, however its a game of cricket so anyone can win. Since, there wont be a game between these two sides, we can only assume the outcome

 

[ammar_merry]

All i will say is common players that represent both teams will have to make a choice and you dont need rocket science to know who they would chose.

Players that do not feature in IPL but are part of PSL mostly second choice players. Anyways lets compare two Champion teams from last year

PSL
Peshawar Zalmi

D Malan
K Akmal (WK)
M Samuels
M Hafeez
Khushdil Shah
I Ahmed
D Sammy (c)
C Jordan
W Riyaz
Hasan Ali
M Ashgar

Bowling looks pretty decent with Hasan Ali and Jordan in the ranks. D Sammy with his military trundler will get carted around, whereas W Riyaz will undo all the hardwork Hasan and Jordan would do. I havent followed M. Ashgar so not sure about him but he is no Shane Warne that will rip through lineups.

Batting is pretty thin with Malan and Kakmal opening. Samuels is perhaps the weakest link in this lineup as he takes sometime before he gets going that is if he gets going. Hafeez can have one good day followed by some mediocre numbers, on his day deadly but very inconsistent.

Now lets compared with IPL Champs Mumbai Indians

L Simmons
P Patel
A Rayudu/ Nitish Rana
R Sharma(c)
KH Pandya
K Pollard
H Pandya
K Sharma
M Johnson
J Bumrah
L Malinga/McClenagan

Batting is very strong compared to PZ. Simmons may not be a big name in business but he can provide steady starts, P Patel could play good knock but very inconsistent. A Rayudu or N Rana both are pretty good strikers and can clear the long rope specially against spinners. However, they arent reliable, not just yet. R Sharma on his day is probably the most dangerous batsman going around. He alone can take the game away from PZ in matter of 2-3 overs. Hasan Ali magic can restraint him but if he is bowled out 2 overs upfront then he may not bowl in middle overs. Then comes the trinity of Dasher, Pandya brothers and Pollard. These three actually were pivotal of MI’s success last year. All three can also bowl one or two over if other bowlers are having off day.
M Johnson and Bumrah were top bolwers of last year’s IPL. Malinga may not be as good as he was yesteryears so He would swap with McClenagan who is definately an upgrade over ageing Malinga.

Well in my view MI start as heavy favourites, however its a game of cricket so anyone can win. Since, there wont be a game between these two sides, we can only assume the outcome

MI were even beaten by lahore lions in champions league. LOL

 

[PakLFC]

You probably know nothing about marketing if you think the IPL is saturated. I can list down a number of innovations it hasn't tried right away. If the IPL hired a proper marketing / strategy firm to do this, they'll of course come up with 20 times more ideas:

- Still only 8 weeks in a year, can do much more
- Still only addresses primarily male population. Hasn't done enough to attract girls / women. That's 50% of population unaddressed / untapped
- No women's league
- No youth league
- Still predominantly a metro league. Doesn't tap into enthusiasm in class B and class C towns
- Still a single tier league. Doesn't have multiple divisions like the EPL
- Only limited to 20/20 cricket. Can try other formats
- Television the primary source of revenue. Hasn't done much in online gaming, merchandising etc.
- Not doing enough to tap international / NRI markets

I know what is saturated and what is not. It may not be saturated to you but is to me. Don't think it is possible to increase the time scale seeing the commitments of international Cricket. I don't think ladies will ever be part of playing in the IPL, get real! It is Bollywood combined with Cricket where International players from various countries play with Indian ones. You may as well add "still not being played on Mars" to your silly list. Only thing possible is it's outreach to other foreign channels then again Cricket is a minority Sport.

 

[MMHS]

Too idealistic, makes you depressed seeing what could have been and what currently is.. smh

Can u imagine the potential, and size of the economy? Chinese clubs are trying to disrupt European soccer league alone, APL would have put ICC in pocket and then forget which pocket .....

 

[shane]

I dom't watch the IPL because it is basically one bad Bollywood film. I also do not watch much of the BBL but that's due to time difference. For me, the PSL and CPL are definitely the best. It's competitive cricket on fair pitches/grounds with a small, intimate number of teams.

 

[sjahmed23]

PSL is the best cricket league in the world because it has Pakistani talent. Period.

Did I forget to mention, #1 t20 side and champions trophy winner (beat team india by 150+ runs)

 

[big_gamer007]

Can u imagine the potential, and size of the economy? Chinese clubs are trying to disrupt European soccer league alone, APL would have put ICC in pocket and then forget which pocket .....

We only have ourselves to blame mate, if only we could have let aside our differences..

Oh well it’s just a dream now, maybe in future it can become a reality.

 

[cricketjoshila]

PSL is the best cricket league in the world because it has Pakistani talent. Period.

Did I forget to mention, #1 t20 side and champions trophy winner (beat team india by 150+ runs)

Why is Pakistani talent best in the world? Can you tell me which Pakistani batsman is the best in the world?