"PSL second only to IPL" : Ramiz Raja

[cricketjoshila]

For Pakistan fans PSL is the best. I dont understand how any Pak fan inc Rameez can say IPL is better. There are no Pakistan players so would any Pak fan think it's better for them?

Money, trashy bollywood music, girls dancing or fireworks doesn't make a sporting tournament, it's the quality of sport on offer.


Karachi Kings or any PSL team could easily beat any IPL team. It's a shame the champions league ended , probably because the IPL teams didn't as well as the Indians hoped.

Lots of Pakistan fans on this very thread say IPL is better.

Top players from every country bar Pakistan play in the IPL thats the quality.

Before you name the 11 players from the psl team, ask them if they will play for their psl team or ipl team if picked by both.

 

[Major]

some really stupids posts in this thread.

Forget IPL. DOnt even discuss it. Its way at the top

PSL each year has to arrange an opening ceremony and do heavy marketing just to attract others.

BBL doesnt even ahve to do that, yet their stadiums are full. Also BBL achieves that without foreign players, PSL cant achieve that with foreign players.

and the most important thing.

PSL operates in 1 city. It doesn;t operate simultaneously in other cities. When they shift to Sharjah, the whole caravan has to go.

BBL and others leagues operate simultaneously.

 

[AssassinatedDevil]

IPL is definitely bigger but the quality of matches on offer are similar imo. IPL has bigger players playing in it but that doesn't mean quality is necessarily better.

 

[USofA]

PSL has huge potential to get to a comfortable second place. We haven't even tapped into rich Pakistani business men like Sadruddin Hashwani, Mian Mohammad Mansha Natt, Malik Riaz, Shahid Khan (USA), inviting rich Arabs from Saudi-a-Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait and co, maybe even a few Chinese investors to buy PSL Franchises. I can easily envision a situation where we have a PSL Franchise team named after the top 3-4 cities from every province in Pakistan and where we have like 16-20 teams where we have the best chance of tapping into every possible talent in Pakistan and inviting foreign players to take part.

The PSL has not even been played in Pakistan yet. So much untapped potential. The amount that the broadcasters will offer in TV rights and the sponsors will offer to the PCB will skyrocket.

I don't think the TV rights are tied to where the games are played. As long as it is in prime time for the target audience. So I think that the PCB can/should have made a better deal now. Though not sure what their current TV deal is. By the way what is the current TV deal?

Also, I don't think they have tapped all the revenue sources to it's potential. A good example would be the digital platform. It has huge revenue potential and is the present and future as to how fans will consume the sport. Have the PCB addressed this revenue stream? Have they tapped the fourth largest cricket market (in terms of revenue potential) - USA? What about UK, another revenue market.

 

[cricketjoshila]

All ipl matches played in UAE were housefull

 

[Savak]

some really stupids posts in this thread.

Forget IPL. DOnt even discuss it. Its way at the top

PSL each year has to arrange an opening ceremony and do heavy marketing just to attract others.

BBL doesnt even ahve to do that, yet their stadiums are full. Also BBL achieves that without foreign players, PSL cant achieve that with foreign players.

and the most important thing.

PSL operates in 1 city. It doesn;t operate simultaneously in other cities. When they shift to Sharjah, the whole caravan has to go.

BBL and others leagues operate simultaneously.

Cricket stadiums in Australia are always full even for test matches let alone ODI's and T-20 games.

 

[Savak]

All ipl matches played in UAE were housefull

Maybe the fact that large number of Indians overseas vs Pakistani's may have played a part?

 

[Nitya85]

Indians are the ones who are having nightmares playing against Pakistan.

I dont watch the IPL so why not post the the XI for last years winners and explain to me why you think they would beat any PSL XI?

Calm down bouy...Why getting Hyper

 

[Kaptan]

IPL is definitely bigger but the quality of matches on offer are similar imo. IPL has bigger players playing in it but that doesn't mean quality is necessarily better.

Better players means better quality ? No ?

 

[Pakistanian]

I think the Big Bash is the best cause of the competitiveness and stadiums. It reminds me of baseball games here.

 

[Nitya85]

Why is Pakistani talent best in the world? Can you tell me which Pakistani batsman is the best in the world?

Babar Azam
Kamran Akmal
Ahmed Shehzad
Fakar Zaman

 

[cricketjoshila]

Maybe the fact that large number of Indians overseas vs Pakistani's may have played a part?

There is a large pakistani diaspora in GCC countries.

 

[Savak]

There is a large pakistani diaspora in GCC countries.

Yes but still much lesser than the Indians

 

[IndianFan2018]

For Pakistan fans PSL is the best. I dont understand how any Pak fan inc Rameez can say IPL is better. There are no Pakistan players so would any Pak fan think it's better for them?

Money, trashy bollywood music, girls dancing or fireworks doesn't make a sporting tournament, it's the quality of sport on offer.


Karachi Kings or any PSL team could easily beat any IPL team. It's a shame the champions league ended , probably because the IPL teams didn't as well as the Indians hoped.

Wrong info brother...Out of 6 times CSK and MI teams won the Champions League tournament twice each.


AUS domestic teams New South Wales and Sydney Sixers won each time.

So, Champions League was shelved not because IPL teams not doing well, because Indian fans didn't care to turn-up to matches not involving IPL teams

 

[CanadianG00se]

MI were even beaten by lahore lions in champions league. LOL

and When was that? Oh yes when their players were injured and were weak team.

So basically MI when beaten is same team as now?

 

[BlackShadow]

Why is Pakistani talent best in the world? Can you tell me which Pakistani batsman is the best in the world?

Because they are currently ranked #1 in a format where rankings change every second series. Not only that, format also happens to be the one that isn't taken seriously by most top teams.

 

[WengerOut]

Because they are currently ranked #1 in a format where rankings change every second series. Not only that, format also happens to be the one that isn't taken seriously by most top teams.

Pakistani players are best in every non quantifiable things . Like talent , exciting , " when they are motivated they can beat even Barcelona FC" etc etc. Those are fallback statements they lean on when they run out of logical arguments.

 

[AssassinatedDevil]

There is a large pakistani diaspora in GCC countries.

Much less Pakistanis than Indians in the GCC.

 

[Jabo]

BBL is better than PSL

 

[R3verse Swing]

Let the record reflect. The only reason why top players are able to play in the IPL and not PSL, is national duties and scheduling.

Nothing to do with love of IPL or India.

Keep dreaming.

 

[Napa]

Still IPL is far greater than any other league. Heck even if u combined all the leagues, still wouldn’t even be half the money IPL is generating. As of now IPL is even bigger than ICC events in terms of money. Now, I wouldnt call that being ‘staurated’

The next stage will be IPL expanding with more teams and a longer season.

 

[CanadianG00se]

The next stage will be IPL expanding with more teams and a longer season.

They should also hold a small overseas tour for Overseas Indians like myself. Indians in Canada haven't witness game ever since Sahara cup was scrapped in 90s.

IPL have huge potential to grow further and break into top 10 leagues going around.

 

[Napa]

In a saner world, we could have had an IPPL - India Pakistan Premier League. This would be a mega event involving ten teams from India and six from Pakistan, and would feature top players from all around the cricketing world. It would run for two months, with matches being held in both countries, and the finals alternating between the two countries every year. It would be without doubt, the finest T-20 tournament in the world. It would be jointly organized by the BCCI and PCB, with both boards sharing the proceeds.

All right, time to stop dreaming now

Actually IPL by itself can be everything you dream about. It is already by far "the finest T-20 tournament in the world". It could add a couple of teams from Bangladesh, three from Australia, a couple from England... and run for 4 months instead of 2.

 

[Napa]

You mean APL - Asian Premier League. 16 teams in 2 divisions : 8 from India, 4 from PAK and 4 based in Dhaka, Colombo, Dubai & Chittagong/Kathmandu/Abu Dhabi with all Asian players considered as “home grown” (that’s Kohli can play for Karachi, Dubai, Colombo or Dhaka franchise, still considered as local player).

Too idealistic, makes you depressed seeing what could have been and what currently is.. smh

The thing that is most likely to happen is that IPL will end up like the NBA. The top talent from around the world will come to India and play. There may be a couple of Bangladeshi, Sri Lankan or even Australian teams like NBA has a few Canadian teams.

This is going to happen simply because economics dictates it should happen.

 

[Napa]

Let the record reflect. The only reason why top players are able to play in the IPL and not PSL, is national duties and scheduling.

Nothing to do with love of IPL or India.

Keep dreaming.

Record reflect what???

You think Stokes who was paid $2 million to play in the IPL would play for $0.25 million?

 

[CanadianG00se]

The thing that is most likely to happen is that IPL will end up like the NBA. The top talent from around the world will come to India and play. There may be a couple of Bangladeshi, Sri Lankan or even Australian teams like NBA has a few Canadian teams.

This is going to happen simply because economics dictates it should happen.

NBA just have one Canadian team

IPL should never include teams from other nations. It will kill the league and might not work due to different cricket boards involved in it. The only way it can work is if BCCI/IPL have an absolute authority and no interference from other boards, or else it will be epic fail.

Lastly, IPL on its own can become everything that an APL could ever be. IPL will gain absolute nothing from such merger.

 

[MMHS]

The thing that is most likely to happen is that IPL will end up like the NBA. The top talent from around the world will come to India and play. There may be a couple of Bangladeshi, Sri Lankan or even Australian teams like NBA has a few Canadian teams.

This is going to happen simply because economics dictates it should happen.

True - it's a PAK forum, so I gave 4 teams to PAK out of 16, otherwise posters will get upset and kill this nice thread - ideal is in a 20 team APL, 2 from PAK, 1 each for BD, SRL & UAE - rest from IND or may be 2 from BD as well, since Chittagong actually is one of the fastest growing city now.

 

[MMHS]

NBA just have one Canadian team

IPL should never include teams from other nations. It will kill the league and might not work due to different cricket boards involved in it. The only way it can work is if BCCI/IPL have an absolute authority and no interference from other boards, or else it will be epic fail.

Lastly, IPL on its own can become everything that an APL could ever be. IPL will gain absolute nothing from such merger.

It had 2 actually - Vancouver shifted to Memphis. The main reason for that is not economy actually, rather the talent gap & popularity as well. For example, Canada has 6 (or 8) Ice hockey teams, which again is not proportionate and no NFL team, but 4 MSL team.

Considering all factors, in a 16 team APL, 11+5 is feasible. May be 13/14+7/6 in a 20 league tournament.

 

[CanadianG00se]

It had 2 actually - Vancouver shifted to Memphis. The main reason for that is not economy actually, rather the talent gap & popularity as well. For example, Canada has 6 (or 8) Ice hockey teams, which again is not proportionate and no NFL team, but 4 MSL team.

Considering all factors, in a 16 team APL, 11+5 is feasible. May be 13/14+7/6 in a 20 league tournament.

It doesnt matter how many teams were in past, as of now just one team is part of NBA. Secondly, you didnt replied when i asked will BD/Pak/SL will accept complete authority by IPL/BCCI? NBA have complete ruling over rules and regulations and Toronto team have to comply, regardless of what Canadian authority thinks. If they object, most likely team will be moved to US. Similarly, I do not see Pakistan or BD complying to IPL rules and regulations that is set by BCCI. Moreover, these countries dont even have stable relations among themselves, so expecting a collaboration is practically not possible.
Lastly, IPL have nothing to gain from those markets.

 

[MMHS]

It doesnt matter how many teams were in past, as of now just one team is part of NBA. Secondly, you didnt replied when i asked will BD/Pak/SL will accept complete authority by IPL/BCCI? NBA have complete ruling over rules and regulations and Toronto team have to comply, regardless of what Canadian authority thinks. If they object, most likely team will be moved to US. Similarly, I do not see Pakistan or BD complying to IPL rules and regulations that is set by BCCI. Moreover, these countries dont even have stable relations among themselves, so expecting a collaboration is practically not possible.
Lastly, IPL have nothing to gain from those markets.

North American leagues are actually owned by franchise themselves. The owners appoint a commissioner to regulate the tournament for them. In that regard, BCCI or any other board, even ICC actually doesn’t come here.

I didn’t respond because it’s redundant to discuss NBA/NHL in cricket world which without understanding the model of operation. Cricket, still is run by autonomous boards/Association of separate countries and overall international game/tournament is governed by ICC. US Olympics can’t force franchise to release their players for Olympics or world cups (only NBA & NHL - NFL & MLB doesn’t have such issues). Also, in NA sports, it’s the owner (s) decide where they want to base their franchise - depending on many other factors apart from economy only. For example Montreal MLB franchise (Expos) are now Washington based, Minneapolis Lakers are now at LA, Settle SuperSonics are now OKC Thunders.

What BCCI would get is a valid question, but my post wasn’t for that, if you could follow it a bit more carefully from inception. Couple of posters did notice & understood that, hence they stopped with one response, sadly you are bragging here.

 

[CanadianG00se]

North American leagues are actually owned by franchise themselves. The owners appoint a commissioner to regulate the tournament for them. In that regard, BCCI or any other board, even ICC actually doesn’t come here.

I didn’t respond because it’s redundant to discuss NBA/NHL in cricket world which without understanding the model of operation. Cricket, still is run by autonomous boards/Association of separate countries and overall international game/tournament is governed by ICC. US Olympics can’t force franchise to release their players for Olympics or world cups (only NBA & NHL - NFL & MLB doesn’t have such issues). Also, in NA sports, it’s the owner (s) decide where they want to base their franchise - depending on many other factors apart from economy only. For example Montreal MLB franchise (Expos) are now Washington based, Minneapolis Lakers are now at LA, Settle SuperSonics are now OKC Thunders.

What BCCI would get is a valid question, but my post wasn’t for that, if you could follow it a bit more carefully from here nceptoon. Couple of posters did notice & understood that, hence they stopped with one response, sadly you are bragging here.

Not bragging unlike you i live in practical world. You’re comparing North America with Sub Continent. India and Pakistan are like volcano that about to erupt. One small incident in either country and they will scrap any and every deal they may have including sports. So, until these two countries have stable relations any such league is mere a dream and not workable. And lastly, there is no way BCCI will ever let go of power they have through IPL. I like your optimism but sadly its not practical

 

[KingKhanWC]

All i will say is common players that represent both teams will have to make a choice and you dont need rocket science to know who they would chose.

Players that do not feature in IPL but are part of PSL mostly second choice players. Anyways lets compare two Champion teams from last year

PSL
Peshawar Zalmi

D Malan
K Akmal (WK)
M Samuels
M Hafeez
Khushdil Shah
I Ahmed
D Sammy (c)
C Jordan
W Riyaz
Hasan Ali
M Ashgar

Bowling looks pretty decent with Hasan Ali and Jordan in the ranks. D Sammy with his military trundler will get carted around, whereas W Riyaz will undo all the hardwork Hasan and Jordan would do. I havent followed M. Ashgar so not sure about him but he is no Shane Warne that will rip through lineups.

Batting is pretty thin with Malan and Kakmal opening. Samuels is perhaps the weakest link in this lineup as he takes sometime before he gets going that is if he gets going. Hafeez can have one good day followed by some mediocre numbers, on his day deadly but very inconsistent.

Now lets compared with IPL Champs Mumbai Indians

L Simmons
P Patel
A Rayudu/ Nitish Rana
R Sharma(c)
KH Pandya
K Pollard
H Pandya
K Sharma
M Johnson
J Bumrah
L Malinga/McClenagan

Batting is very strong compared to PZ. Simmons may not be a big name in business but he can provide steady starts, P Patel could play good knock but very inconsistent. A Rayudu or N Rana both are pretty good strikers and can clear the long rope specially against spinners. However, they arent reliable, not just yet. R Sharma on his day is probably the most dangerous batsman going around. He alone can take the game away from PZ in matter of 2-3 overs. Hasan Ali magic can restraint him but if he is bowled out 2 overs upfront then he may not bowl in middle overs. Then comes the trinity of Dasher, Pandya brothers and Pollard. These three actually were pivotal of MI’s success last year. All three can also bowl one or two over if other bowlers are having off day.
M Johnson and Bumrah were top bolwers of last year’s IPL. Malinga may not be as good as he was yesteryears so He would swap with McClenagan who is definately an upgrade over ageing Malinga.

Well in my view MI start as heavy favourites, however its a game of cricket so anyone can win. Since, there wont be a game between these two sides, we can only assume the outcome

The main XI for Zamli was different last season. Afridi was injured for the final but was important in getting them there.

Kamran Akmal
DJ Malan
M Samuels
Hafeez
Afridi
Haris Sohail
D Sammy
C Jordan
Wahab Riaz
Hasan Ali
Ashgar

Led by a two time world T20 winning captain. Malan is one of Englands best batsmen atm. Samuels has played two match wining innings in the World T20 to help windies to the trophy. Afridi can change the game in a few mins with both bat and ball. The bowling is very good , all good death bowler with a good mix of spinners.

I dont know much about the IPL team but I think Zalmi would can beat them without much of a problem.

 

[Artaxerxes]

some really stupids posts in this thread.

Forget IPL. DOnt even discuss it. Its way at the top

PSL each year has to arrange an opening ceremony and do heavy marketing just to attract others.

BBL doesnt even ahve to do that, yet their stadiums are full. Also BBL achieves that without foreign players, PSL cant achieve that with foreign players.

and the most important thing.

PSL operates in 1 city. It doesn;t operate simultaneously in other cities. When they shift to Sharjah, the whole caravan has to go.

BBL and others leagues operate simultaneously.

Are we discussing the quality of cricket and the competitiveness or attendance figures?. PSL is played outside Pakistan in cities with relatively small populations hence the low attendances.It will be a different story if PSL was played in Pakistan.Anyway what is the fascination with India?.Why do we have to compare our cricket with Indian cricket?.I don't see English people comparing English football with Italian or Spanish football all the time.

 

[CanadianG00se]

The main XI for Zamli was different last season. Afridi was injured for the final but was important in getting them there.

Kamran Akmal
DJ Malan
M Samuels9
Hafeez
Afridi
Haris Sohail
D Sammy
C Jordan
Wahab Riaz
Hasan Ali
Ashgar

Led by a two time world T20 winning captain. Malan is one of Englands best batsmen atm. Samuels has played two match wining innings in the World T20 to help windies to the trophy. Afridi can change the game in a few mins with both bat and ball. The bowling is very good , all good death bowler with a good mix of spinners.

I dont know much about the IPL team but I think Zalmi would can beat them without much of a problem.

I highly doubt Zalmi can defeat MI, but we can have different opinions.

 

[Napa]

Whether PSL is ahead of or behind BBL misses an important point. When PSL started, I and I daresay most others did not expect it to be the success it has become.

Great job by the PCB making the PSL a success in so short a time.

 

[big_gamer007]

The thing that is most likely to happen is that IPL will end up like the NBA. The top talent from around the world will come to India and play. There may be a couple of Bangladeshi, Sri Lankan or even Australian teams like NBA has a few Canadian teams.

This is going to happen simply because economics dictates it should happen.

Let’s hope it happens and when it does maybe in next 15-20 years hopefully there is peace and prosperity in the entire sub continent for everyone to enjoy top quality cricket..

 

[Varun]

Let’s hope it happens and when it does maybe in next 15-20 years hopefully there is peace and prosperity in the entire sub continent for everyone to enjoy top quality cricket..

And experience the death of test cricket in the process?

No thanks.

 

[big_gamer007]

And experience the death of test cricket in the process?

No thanks.

Test cricket will still be played the iconic series atleast.. Like when African cup of nation happens African players are unavailable similarly when ashes happen England/Aus players would be unavailable.. And other iconic series will still happen..

Indian series will happen in the off season like euro/WC..

 

[Hitman]

Let the record reflect. The only reason why top players are able to play in the IPL and not PSL, is national duties and scheduling.

Nothing to do with love of IPL or India.

Keep dreaming.

Who claimed so? The reason is love for money, which the BCCI provides. No other board can provide so much money as the BCCI does, and that's the reason every player with a brain prefers playing in the IPL rather than any other league.

 

[Hitman]

Let the record reflect. The only reason why top players are able to play in the IPL and not PSL, is national duties and scheduling.

Nothing to do with love of IPL or India.

Keep dreaming.

) So it's not because of the money?

 

[Mamoon]

Let the record reflect. The only reason why top players are able to play in the IPL and not PSL, is national duties and scheduling.

Nothing to do with love of IPL or India.

Keep dreaming.

That is some smashing insight. I was under the impression that all the players are lining up to play in the IPL because they love India and want the Indian passport.

Thank you for being so exceptionally obvious, but you are quite wrong. The reason why the IPL is the best T20 league in the world while the PSL is third class is not scheduling - it is only about the money.

Indian cricket is far more lucrative than Pakistan cricket with a lot more financial muscle. Obviously, it has a lot do with the fact that India as a country is bigger, safer and more resourceful than Pakistan. In addition, it also has a much better reputation and marketability globally.

The money involved in the IPL is life changing and it started to challenge the commitment and the patriotism of the cricketers. In order to avoid the friction between the boards and the players, the ICC decided to give the IPL a dedicated window.

Hypothetically speaking, if PCB becomes richer than the BCCI, all the players who are playing in the IPL would have happily give up their IPL contracts to play in the PSL in the UAE, and the ICC would then give the PSL a dedicated window.

More money -> quite a few players eager to forego national duty to play -> trouble between the boards and the players -> ICC providing a dedicate league to resolve the issue.

It is quite baffling that you think (or should I say dream?) that people are not aware of why the top players are able to play in the IPL and not the PSL.

Give more money than the IPL to the likes of de Villiers, Warner, Starc, Maxwell, Boult, Rabada etc. and see how they come running.

 

[Savak]

That is some smashing insight. I was under the impression that all the players are lining up to play in the IPL because they love India and want the Indian passport.

Thank you for being so exceptionally obvious, but you are quite wrong. The reason why the IPL is the best T20 league in the world while the PSL is third class is not scheduling - it is only about the money.

Indian cricket is far more lucrative than Pakistan cricket with a lot more financial muscle. Obviously, it has a lot do with the fact that India as a country is bigger, safer and more resourceful than Pakistan. In addition, it also has a much better reputation and marketability globally.

The money involved in the IPL is life changing and it started to challenge the commitment and the patriotism of the cricketers. In order to avoid the friction between the boards and the players, the ICC decided to give the IPL a dedicated window.

Hypothetically speaking, if PCB becomes richer than the BCCI, all the players who are playing in the IPL would have happily give up their IPL contracts to play in the PSL in the UAE, and the ICC would then give the PSL a dedicated window.

More money -> quite a few players eager to forego national duty to play -> trouble between the boards and the players -> ICC providing a dedicate league to resolve the issue.

It is quite baffling that you think (or should I say dream?) that people are not aware of why the top players are able to play in the IPL and not the PSL.

Give more money than the IPL to the likes of de Villiers, Warner, Starc, Maxwell, Boult, Rabada etc. and see how they come running.

You don't have to give the exact or more money, but something close by. If Warner is getting $1.5 million in the IPL then PSL needs to offer him atleast $1 million for him to consider playing in the PSL as well. PSL needs to be scheduled better and somewhere in June-October. If the PSL is held just before the IPL then naturally the top most players are going to preserve themselves rather than take the risk of injury, bad form before the IPL especially if the PSL is only offering a top pay of $250,000

 

[Mamoon]

You don't have to give the exact or more money, but something close by. If Warner is getting $1.5 million in the IPL then PSL needs to offer him atleast $1 million for him to consider playing in the PSL as well. PSL needs to be scheduled better and somewhere in June-October. If the PSL is held just before the IPL then naturally the top most players are going to preserve themselves rather than take the risk of injury, bad form before the IPL especially if the PSL is only offering a top pay of $250,000

Absolutely. I agree.

At the moment, there is zero incentive for the top players to play in the PSL.

 

[CanadianG00se]

And experience the death of test cricket in the process?

No thanks.

People like yourself who loves test cricket in India are significant minority. I highly doubt BCCI cares about what few test purists have to say.

Sooner we get rid off Test the better.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

IPL is definitely ahead of PSL so is Big Bash. If you look at the atmosphere of Big Bash, it is electric. Packed stadiums and loud crowds and the standard of cricket is very good as well. What I like about BBL is that it's not a copy of IPL. They made a tournament with their own convenience, their own rules and it's paying off.

PSL is still IMO a bit nascent, but being our own product, I definitely prefer it over other leagues but that doesn't mean its better than others.

 

[Mamoon]

IPL is definitely ahead of PSL so is Big Bash. If you look at the atmosphere of Big Bash, it is electric. Packed stadiums and loud crowds and the standard of cricket is very good as well. What I like about BBL is that it's not a copy of IPL. They made a tournament with their own convenience, their own rules and it's paying off.

PSL is still IMO a bit nascent, but being our own product, I definitely prefer it over other leagues but that doesn't mean its better than others.

One advantage that the Big Bash has is the quality of production/infrastructure. Australian stadiums are world class and far better than what we have in the UAE or even in India, and coverage is always great. The pitches and outfield are excellent as well.

You can host the PSL in Australia with the same set of players and it will look much better. The atmosphere there is always very good due to the said reasons.

Host the BPL in UAE or India, and people will realize how mediocre it actually is. The factors that make the BPL good have nothing to do with the BPL itself.

 

[Savak]

IPL is definitely ahead of PSL so is Big Bash. If you look at the atmosphere of Big Bash, it is electric. Packed stadiums and loud crowds and the standard of cricket is very good as well. What I like about BBL is that it's not a copy of IPL. They made a tournament with their own convenience, their own rules and it's paying off.

PSL is still IMO a bit nascent, but being our own product, I definitely prefer it over other leagues but that doesn't mean its better than others.

Big Bash is like any Australian match. Australian Cricket stadiums are always packed whether they play a test match, odi or T-20 in Australia. Australia is a Cricket loving nation and probably the only western nation with such a strong cricket following.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

One advantage that the Big Bash has is the quality of production/infrastructure. Australian stadiums are world class and far better than what we have in the UAE or even in India, and coverage is always great. The pitches and outfield are excellent as well.

You can host the PSL in Australia with the same set of players and it will look much better. The atmosphere there is always very good due to the said reasons.

Host the BPL in UAE or India, and people will realize how mediocre it actually is. The factors that make the BPL good have nothing to do with the BPL itself.

BPL is Bangladesh Premier League not Big Bash
If PSL was held in Australia, it would be a big flop cause our batters and bowlers both will struggle badly there as they do these days.

 

[Mamoon]

The pool of foreign players is the only factor that decides the quality of a T20 league. Everything else is highly subjective and irrelevant.

 

[Mamoon]

BPL is Bangladesh Premier League not Big Bash
If PSL was held in Australia, it would be a big flop cause our batters and bowlers both will struggle badly there as they do these days.

Yes I know, sorry it was a typo. I meant the BBL.

Our players will flop in Australia, but the atmosphere and production would be far better than what it is in the UAE.

 

[KingKhanWC]

The pool of foreign players is the only factor that decides the quality of a T20 league. Everything else is highly subjective and irrelevant.

Nonsense. You are only allowed to field 4 foriegners. The majority of players in the IPL are Indian and the majority in the PSL are Pakistanis. Pakistanis in the PSL are better players than Indians in the IPL and the foriegners may only slightly be better in the IPL.

A PSL XI would have no issues beating any IPL XI.

Do you wish you were Indian?

 

[Mr.Q]

Watched the KK vs PZ match. The picture quality, graphics etc are fine. But the quality of cricket is actually very poor IMO. Big bash is leagues ahead of this. Not even thinking about a comparison with the IPL. PSL gives the young players from Pakistan a stage to perform, which is great. But that's the only positive I see.

 

[Mamoon]

Nonsense. You are only allowed to field 4 foriegners. The majority of players in the IPL are Indian and the majority in the PSL are Pakistanis. Pakistanis in the PSL are better players than Indians in the IPL and the foriegners may only slightly be better in the IPL.

A PSL XI would have no issues beating any IPL XI.

Do you wish you were Indian?

I think your delusions are beyond any cure known to man, so I do not where to start and where to finish.

It does not matter how many international players are allowed in one team per game - the difference is that the four foreign players that the IPL teams field are some of the top cricketers on the planet.

Almost 90% of the world's best cricketers are on show in the IPL, and Pakistan does not have the best cricketers in the world anymore so the IPL is not missing out on much. Apart from 1-2, our players are not good enough to play in the IPL.

In comparison, most of our foreign players are has been expired cricketers who are here to enjoy their retirement. Unless we get hold of players like Warner, de Villiers, Maxwell, Starc, Boult, Steyn, Williamson, Rabada, Finch, de Kock, Miller etc. etc., we cannot compare the PSL to the IPL any shape or form.

Secondly, the Pakistani players that play in the PSL are not better than the Indian players in the IPL. India is far ahead of Pakistan when it comes to player production and development.

The best IPL teams would beat the best PSL teams 8/10 times anywhere in any conditions.

I do not know what I wish, but I am glad that I am not you.

 

[Hitman]

I think your delusions are beyond any cure known to man, so I do not where to start and where to finish.

It does not matter how many international players are allowed in one team per game - the difference is that the four foreign players that the IPL teams field are some of the top cricketers on the planet.

Almost 90% of the world's best cricketers are on show in the IPL, and Pakistan does not have the best cricketers in the world anymore so the IPL is not missing out on much. Apart from 1-2, our players are not good enough to play in the IPL.

In comparison, most of our foreign players are has been expired cricketers who are here to enjoy their retirement. Unless we get hold of players like Warner, de Villiers, Maxwell, Starc, Boult, Steyn, Williamson, Rabada, Finch, de Kock, Miller etc. etc., we cannot compare the PSL to the IPL any shape or form.

Secondly, the Pakistani players that play in the PSL are not better than the Indian players in the IPL. India is far ahead of Pakistan when it comes to player production and development.

The best IPL teams would beat the best PSL teams 8/10 times anywhere in any conditions.

I do not know what I wish, but I am glad that I am not you.

Now this is a massive KO punch )

 

[KingKhanWC]

I think your delusions are beyond any cure known to man, so I do not where to start and where to finish.

It does not matter how many international players are allowed in one team per game - the difference is that the four foreign players that the IPL teams field are some of the top cricketers on the planet.

Almost 90% of the world's best cricketers are on show in the IPL, and Pakistan does not have the best cricketers in the world anymore so the IPL is not missing out on much. Apart from 1-2, our players are not good enough to play in the IPL.

In comparison, most of our foreign players are has been expired cricketers who are here to enjoy their retirement. Unless we get hold of players like Warner, de Villiers, Maxwell, Starc, Boult, Steyn, Williamson, Rabada, Finch, de Kock, Miller etc. etc., we cannot compare the PSL to the IPL any shape or form.

Secondly, the Pakistani players that play in the PSL are not better than the Indian players in the IPL. India is far ahead of Pakistan when it comes to player production and development.

The best IPL teams would beat the best PSL teams 8/10 times anywhere in any conditions.

I do not know what I wish, but I am glad that I am not you.

lol Im glad you're not me either, your fabrications are well known on this forum. And I dont love India more than Pakistan.

Pakistan are ranked no.1 in T20's. The best PSL XI made up of PSL players would beat any IPL XI. Williamson is a poor T20 player, shows how much you actually know. I said they may a few better foriegners but nothing so superior their quality of cricket is better because it's not.

 

[UP]

IPL is the king. They throw millions on players and even some of their U-19 kids are millionaires. End of story. All other random leagues are just LOL except BBL (just because it is played on packed Australian world class stadiums). Leagues are all about $$$ and other stuff comes after.

It doesn’t matter what fans with green tinted glasses think who is better.

 

[Nitya85]

Nonsense. You are only allowed to field 4 foriegners. The majority of players in the IPL are Indian and the majority in the PSL are Pakistanis. Pakistanis in the PSL are better players than Indians in the IPL and the foriegners may only slightly be better in the IPL.

A PSL XI would have no issues beating any IPL XI.

Do you wish you were Indian?

Pakistani in PSL are better than Indians in IPL
Okkkkkkkk

 

[Suleiman]

BBL and CPL are ahead, they produce more entertaining cricket because let's face it people come to watch t20s for sixes, fours, it's like a carnival, and after IPL, BBL is the competition that does it best followed by CPL.

But given that we can't even host it in our own country and have to outsource it to a crap place like UAE with dead wickets and stuffed animals, we're doing the best we can and should 100% support it.

 

[Mamoon]

lol Im glad you're not me either, your fabrications are well known on this forum. And I dont love India more than Pakistan.

Pakistan are ranked no.1 in T20's. The best PSL XI made up of PSL players would beat any IPL XI. Williamson is a poor T20 player, shows how much you actually know. I said they may a few better foriegners but nothing so superior their quality of cricket is better because it's not.

Williamson is still better than most of the international players on show in the PSL, and I actually forgot about the likes of Stokes etc.

The "best" PSL XI may beat some of the IPL teams, but the "best" IPL XI would destroy our so-called number one ranked T20 team, let alone the PSL teams.

The best IPL XI would probably look something like this:

Warner
de Kock
Kohli
de Villiers
Stokes
Dhoni
Pandya
Maxwell/Chahal
Yadav
Starc
Bumrah

Then you have players like Smith, Amla, Bhuvneshwar, Gambhir, Raina etc. who would walk into any the Pakistan team, let alone any PSL franchise.

But no, the Denlys, Mills, Ingrams, Patels, Ronchis, Boparas, Delports, Iftikhars, Rizwans, Manzoors, Samis, Irfans, Junaids, Haris Sohails, Babar Azams, Umar Akmals etc. etc. are better and will beat the IPL teams black and blue.

The problem is that you confuse your fantasies with reality and facts.

 

[Mamoon]

Speaking of T20 rankings, the third ranked Indian team would beat the top ranked Pakistani team 8/10 times on average. Kohli alone is worth more than half of our so-called number one T20 team.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Williamson is still better than most of the international players on show in the PSL, and I actually forgot about the likes of Stokes etc.

The "best" PSL XI may beat some of the IPL teams, but the "best" IPL XI would destroy our so-called number one ranked T20 team, let alone the PSL teams.

The best IPL XI would probably look something like this:

Warner
de Kock
Kohli
de Villiers
Stokes
Dhoni
Pandya
Maxwell/Chahal
Yadav
Starc
Bumrah

Then you have players like Smith, Amla, Bhuvneshwar, Gambhir, Raina etc. who would walk into any the Pakistan team, let alone any PSL franchise.

But no, the Denlys, Mills, Ingrams, Patels, Ronchis, Boparas, Delports, Iftikhars, Rizwans, Manzoors, Samis, Irfans, Junaids, Haris Sohails, Babar Azams, Umar Akmals etc. etc. are better and will beat the IPL teams black and blue.

The problem is that you confuse your fantasies with reality and facts.

Lets keep one thing in mind, your love for Indian cricket over Pakistan cricket is also well known apart from making up bed time stories.

Bias is fine but to claim Williamson is better than most PSL cricketers in T20 is laughable. Babar Azam is the no.1 T20 ranked batsmen but yet you deceitfully place him alongside Samit Patel in your list. Stop this deceitfulness, you're only fooling yourself.

You have listed 6 foreign players in team, more than half are not Indian. So I assume you dont see the Indians as being good enough to make most of the XI lol.

I would post my PSL XI but I dont want to upset you as it would contain mostly Pakistani players.

 

[Mamoon]

Lets keep one thing in mind, your love for Indian cricket over Pakistan cricket is also well known apart from making up bed time stories.

Bias is fine but to claim Williamson is better than most PSL cricketers in T20 is laughable. Babar Azam is the no.1 T20 ranked batsmen but yet you deceitfully place him alongside Samit Patel in your list. Stop this deceitfulness, you're only fooling yourself.

You have listed 6 foreign players in team, more than half are not Indian. So I assume you dont see the Indians as being good enough to make most of the XI lol.

I would post my PSL XI but I dont want to upset you as it would contain mostly Pakistani players.

Firstly, just because I think Indian cricket is far better than Pakistani cricket does not mean that I love Indian cricket "over" Pakistan cricket, or that I wish that I was Indian.

Secondly, I did not say that Williamson is better than most PSL cricketers. I said that "Williamson is still better than most of the international players on show in the PSL, and I actually forgot about the likes of Stokes etc."

By international, I meant "overseas". There are a few Pakistani batsmen who are potentially better than Williamson in this format, and apart from Sangakkara and Pietersen (who is pretty much finished), he is still better than a lot of the overseas nobodies playing in the PSL.

Babar Azam is an average T20 batsman. The number one ranking means nothing because I can easily list 15-20 batsmen who are better than him in this format.

In no particular order (off the top of my head):

1) Kohli

2) Warner

3) Munro

4) Root

5) de Villiers

6) de Kock

7) du Plessis

8) Amla

9) Miller

10) Finch

11) Roy

12) Hales

13) Guptill

14) Rohit

15) Dhawan

16) Rahul

17) Fakhar

18) Kusal Perera

19) Lewis

20) Stokes

21) Buttler

22) Bairstow

23) Morgan

24) Maxwell

25) Lynn

And I think there are more if I put some thought to it. Babar is not better than any of these names in T20 cricket, and none of the teams would swap any of the said player to have Babar in their T20 team.

I have listed 6 foreign players because they are some of the top cricketers in the world.

Warner, de Kock, de Villiers, Starc and Stokes are better than any player India has in their respective positions minus Kohli, although it was a very tough call between de Kock, Rohit and Dhawan.

I should have probably have written it as de Kock/Rohit/Dhawan to make it clear.

5 Indian players make this team, but at best 1-2 Pakistani players would make. Certainly no batsman will.

You can make as many PSL XIs as you wish, they won't get close to the best IPL XI.

 

[pakistani pride]

Speaking of T20 rankings, the third ranked Indian team would beat the top ranked Pakistani team 8/10 times on average. Kohli alone is worth more than half of our so-called number one T20 team.

Maybe you can keep the cheerleading till the moment Sarfarazs team actually plays a T20 game vs Kohli.

Daayummm...

 

[Mamoon]

Maybe you can keep the cheerleading till the moment Sarfarazs team actually plays a T20 game vs Kohli.

Daayummm...

Yes indeed, because we cannot deduce anything from the gulf in quality between the two sides on paper. Yes exceptions happen (for example, the Champions Trophy Final), but more often than not, the better team on paper is the one that wins most of the matches on the ground.

India would beat Pakistan more often than not in every format. They are simply a far better team now.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Big Bash is like any Australian match. Australian Cricket stadiums are always packed whether they play a test match, odi or T-20 in Australia. Australia is a Cricket loving nation and probably the only western nation with such a strong cricket following.

It is, that's why BBL is such an amazing league to watch because of the atmosphere and energy even though the foreign contingent is pretty low in BBL, the star attraction is their home players.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Firstly, just because I think Indian cricket is far better than Pakistani cricket does not mean that I love Indian cricket "over" Pakistan cricket, or that I wish that I was Indian.

Secondly, I did not say that Williamson is better than most PSL cricketers. I said that "Williamson is still better than most of the international players on show in the PSL, and I actually forgot about the likes of Stokes etc."

By international, I meant "overseas". There are a few Pakistani batsmen who are potentially better than Williamson in this format, and apart from Sangakkara and Pietersen (who is pretty much finished), he is still better than a lot of the overseas nobodies playing in the PSL.

Babar Azam is an average T20 batsman. The number one ranking means nothing because I can easily list 15-20 batsmen who are better than him in this format.

In no particular order (off the top of my head):

1) Kohli

2) Warner

3) Munro

4) Root

5) de Villiers

6) de Kock

7) du Plessis

8) Amla

9) Miller

10) Finch

11) Roy

12) Hales

13) Guptill

14) Rohit

15) Dhawan

16) Rahul

17) Fakhar

18) Kusal Perera

19) Lewis

20) Stokes

21) Buttler

22) Bairstow

23) Morgan

24) Maxwell

25) Lynn

And I think there are more if I put some thought to it. Babar is not better than any of these names in T20 cricket, and none of the teams would swap any of the said player to have Babar in their T20 team.

I have listed 6 foreign players because they are some of the top cricketers in the world.

Warner, de Kock, de Villiers, Starc and Stokes are better than any player India has in their respective positions minus Kohli, although it was a very tough call between de Kock, Rohit and Dhawan.

I should have probably have written it as de Kock/Rohit/Dhawan to make it clear.

5 Indian players make this team, but at best 1-2 Pakistani players would make. Certainly no batsman will.

You can make as many PSL XIs as you wish, they won't get close to the best IPL XI.

Didnt Root, Amla, Hales, Morgan, Guptill go unsold in this years IPL? If so you're listing people who aren't even in the league this year lol. You really cant help yourself with making up stories.

I would stop putting thought into it, Babar is no1 ranked batsmen, this is more accurate than your mind as it's based on performances. T20 is a format where it's hard for any XI to dominate another XI if they both made up of good T20 cricketers. Pakistan are no.1 and Azam is also no.1, sorry if this upsets Indians fans like yourself. PSL XI would beat IPL on the day.

 

[Mamoon]

Didnt Root, Amla, Hales, Morgan, Guptill go unsold in this years IPL? If so you're listing people who aren't even in the league this year lol. You really cant help yourself with making up stories.

Which shows the quality of the league. PSL would do anything to get names like Root and Amla on board. Amla scored heavily last year but he still failed to find a franchise, while Guptill is one of the top Limited Overs batsmen in the world as well. All of these players easily make any PSL team.

I would stop putting thought into it, Babar is no1 ranked batsmen, this is more accurate than your mind as it's based on performances. T20 is a format where it's hard for any XI to dominate another XI if they both made up of good T20 cricketers. Pakistan are no.1 and Azam is also no.1, sorry if this upsets Indians fans like yourself. PSL XI would beat IPL on the day.

Yes indeed, it is certainly in line with your usual crackpot theories that we have the privilege to be enlightened with in the TP forum.

Number one rankings do not hide deficiencies. We were also number one in Tests in Sep 2016 before we got a much needed reality check. Our batting is too weak to hold onto the number one ranking.

PSL XI might beat the IPL XI "on the day", but "on the day" means nothing. In other words, it is called fluke.

Pakistan thumped India in the Champions Trophy Final "on the day", but how many games would Pakistan win against India out of ten? Probably three at best.

IPL > PSL

Any IPL franchise > Any PSL franchise

IPL best XI > PSL best XI

India > Pakistan in all three formats

Indian domestic players > Pakistani domestic players

That is the truth - take it or leave it. Your green-tinted glasses and phobia of Indian cricket will not change the reality.

 

[backfootpunch]

Didnt Root, Amla, Hales, Morgan, Guptill go unsold in this years IPL? If so you're listing people who aren't even in the league this year lol. You really cant help yourself with making up stories.

I would stop putting thought into it, Babar is no1 ranked batsmen, this is more accurate than your mind as it's based on performances. T20 is a format where it's hard for any XI to dominate another XI if they both made up of good T20 cricketers. Pakistan are no.1 and Azam is also no.1, sorry if this upsets Indians fans like yourself. PSL XI would beat IPL on the day.

I'm a Pakistan fan and I would take any of those international players over Babar in a heartbeat in T20s. It's irrelevant whether some of these players got unsold in IPL because they're still far better than this overrated "number 1 T20 batsman" - of course he's even better than Kohli right?

Like Babar's batting rankings no one takes the T20 rankings seriously and one of the main reasons for that is because it keeps changing series by series in the T20I calendar.

 

[Darkrai]

How exactly is PSL second only to IPL? What makes it better than the rest? Is it making ton of money that i'm not aware of? Last i heard, some teams had trouble with money, they refused to pay pcb. So financially it's clearly not doing great. And how could it? the stadium are almost always mostly empty. I don't know how much profit it generates from broadcast, but i highly doubt it makes up for the empty stadiums-especially when you say it's the second best. I will say that matches have been very close in the past two seasons, it's been competitive, but asides from that i don't see what make it superior to the rest of the leagues. It certainly could be second only to IPL or even perhaps eventually match it if it was held in Pakistan.

 

[backfootpunch]

Which shows the quality of the league. PSL would do anything to get names like Root and Amla on board. Amla scored heavily last year but he still failed to find a franchise, while Guptill is one of the top Limited Overs batsmen in the world as well. All of these players easily make any PSL team.



Yes indeed, it is certainly in line with your usual crackpot theories that we have the privilege to be enlightened with in the TP forum.

Number one rankings do not hide deficiencies. We were also number one in Tests in Sep 2016 before we got a much needed reality check. Our batting is too weak to hold onto the number one ranking.

PSL XI might beat the IPL XI "on the day", but "on the day" means nothing. In other words, it is called fluke.

Pakistan thumped India in the Champions Trophy Final "on the day", but how many games would Pakistan win against India out of ten? Probably three at best.

IPL > PSL

Any IPL franchise > Any PSL franchise

IPL best XI > PSL best XI

India > Pakistan in all three formats

Indian domestic players > Pakistani domestic players

That is the truth - take it or leave it. Your green-tinted glasses and phobia of Indian cricket will not change the reality.

I would say "one off" rather than fluke only because many PPers still continue to misinterpret this and think you're referring to the performance on the day as being the fluke.

 

[Mamoon]

How exactly is PSL second only to IPL? What makes it better than the rest? Is it making ton of money that i'm not aware of? Last i heard, some teams had trouble with money, they refused to pay pcb. So financially it's clearly not doing great. And how could it? the stadium are almost always mostly empty. I don't know how much profit it generates from broadcast, but i highly doubt it makes up for the empty stadiums-especially when you say it's the second best. I will say that matches have been very close in the past two seasons, it's been competitive, but asides from that i don't see what make it superior to the rest of the leagues. It certainly could be second only to IPL or even perhaps eventually match it if it was held in Pakistan.

Simple. It is Pakistani so it is the best league in the world. That seems to be the logic some of our esteemed friends are subscribing to.

 

[Mamoon]

I would say "one off" rather than fluke only because many PPers still continue to misinterpret this and think you're referring to the performance on the day as being the fluke.

I agree. I think people have a problem with the word "fluke" more than the reasoning behind the use of word.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Which shows the quality of the league. PSL would do anything to get names like Root and Amla on board. Amla scored heavily last year but he still failed to find a franchise, while Guptill is one of the top Limited Overs batsmen in the world as well. All of these players easily make any PSL team.

You claimed these were the best IPL players but they are not even in the IPL ) Maybe they were unsold because they were thought to be rubbish but no know whats in minds of the franchises.

Yes indeed, it is certainly in line with your usual crackpot theories that we have the privilege to be enlightened with in the TP forum.

Number one rankings do not hide deficiencies. We were also number one in Tests in Sep 2016 before we got a much needed reality check. Our batting is too weak to hold onto the number one ranking.

PSL XI might beat the IPL XI "on the day", but "on the day" means nothing. In other words, it is called fluke.

Pakistan thumped India in the Champions Trophy Final "on the day", but how many games would Pakistan win against India out of ten? Probably three at best.

IPL > PSL

Any IPL franchise > Any PSL franchise

IPL best XI > PSL best XI

India > Pakistan in all three formats

Indian domestic players > Pakistani domestic players

That is the truth - take it or leave it. Your green-tinted glasses and phobia of Indian cricket will not change the reality.

Having watched India - Pak matches since I was a small child, I've seen Pakistan beat India on most occasions. It's not my phobia its' your love of everything Indian which is relevant here. Pakistan inflicted the biggest defeat in any major final to India but in your mind you know better and India would win more lol.

A PSL XI of only Pakistan players could easily beat any IPL XI. Youve got to be Indian.

 

[pakistani pride]

Yes indeed, because we cannot deduce anything from the gulf in quality between the two sides on paper. Yes exceptions happen (for example, the Champions Trophy Final), but more often than not, the better team on paper is the one that wins most of the matches on the ground.

India would beat Pakistan more often than not in every format. They are simply a far better team now.

Would, could, should...

IF IF IF AMIR gets the ball to SWING the feared Indian top 3 will be back in the dressing room within 5 overs.

We know your point.
You might already know it but such posts are highly irritating.

 

[Savak]

Simple. It is Pakistani so it is the best league in the world. That seems to be the logic some of our esteemed friends are subscribing to.

Any successful business venture needs to believe it is the best in order to be at the best.

 

[Mamoon]

You claimed these were the best IPL player but they are not even in the IPL ) Maybe they were unsold but they were thought to be rubbish but no you know whats in minds of the franchises.

Amla and co. are unsold this season but he performed very well last season, and the fact that he did not get picked now shows the quality and depth in the IPL. That is why I mentioned him.

Having watched India - Pak matches since I was a small child, I've seen Pakistan beat India on most occasions. It's not my phobia its' your love of everything Indian which is relevant here. Pakistan inflicted the biggest defeat in any major final to India but in your mind you know better and India would win more lol.

A PSL XI of only Pakistan players could easily beat any IPL XI. Youve got to be Indian.

I also grew up watching Pakistan beat India in random, insignificant matches, but soiling its pants in big matches such as World Cup games. However, times have changed and Indian cricket has left Pakistan cricket in its dust.

Yes we inflicted a record defeat but we cannot sit and talk about it for the rest of our lives, while India continues to go from strength to strength.

Yes a PSL XI of only Pakistan players could easily beat an IPL XI, but only one-off occasions. It cannot beat them consistently.

Do not worry about me. I am more Pakistani than you ever will be, and I have spent more time in Pakistan than you ever will.

 

[Mamoon]

Any successful business venture needs to believe it is the best in order to be at the best.

I agree, but some of our friends think that the PSL is already better than the IPL because it is a Pakistani venture.

Now imagine if the PSL organizers and owners start to think along the same lines. The PSL would go down the drain within a few years. You always have to strive to improve and make things bigger and better.

I am glad that the PCB is under no such illusions, and is fully aware of what needs to be done to make the PSL more successful.

 

[Mamoon]

Would, could, should...

IF IF IF AMIR gets the ball to SWING the feared Indian top 3 will be back in the dressing room within 5 overs.

We know your point.
You might already know it but such posts are highly irritating.

Yes, would, could and should is irritating, but if if if is not.

Unfortunately for Amir, India would not always play Pakistan on green-tops, and nor would all of their batsmen fail on a flat track every day.

India wipes the floor with Pakistan in all formats. Accept the reality. period.

 

[babajee]

Do not worry about me. I am more Pakistani than you ever will be, and I have spent more time in Pakistan than you ever will.

Do you like Pakistan?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Amla and co. are unsold this season but he performed very well last season, and the fact that he did not get picked now shows the quality and depth in the IPL. That is why I mentioned him.

No it doesnt, it just means there are too many players and not enough spaces. If there was no limit on foriegn players, they would have been picked as the Indians are of average quality.

I also grew up watching Pakistan beat India in random, insignificant matches, but soiling its pants in big matches such as World Cup games. However, times have changed and Indian cricket has left Pakistan cricket in its dust.

Yes we inflicted a record defeat but we cannot sit and talk about it for the rest of our lives, while India continues to go from strength to strength.

Yes a PSL XI of only Pakistan players could easily beat an IPL XI, but only one-off occasions. It cannot beat them consistently.

Do not worry about me. I am more Pakistani than you ever will be, and I have spent more time in Pakistan than you ever will.

Every game between the two is significant which is why hundreds of millions of Indians watch any India -Pak match an which is why they are very upset when India lose. Pak beat India in the last major match in the final of the CT and Pak beat India in the previous bilateral series too. It;s just your claim as an Indian loving person, India are way ahead.