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PTI's Tsunami March on 14th August [Mega Thread]

additional secretary ECP who has retired revealing what went on in the last election on ARY just now....all ROs were appointed by CJ instead of the norm in which ECP appoints them...
 
Mamoon said:
I study in a sarkari medical college and these expenses compared to a private medical college is absurd. If I don't provide services here in the future, that would be money and resources wasted on me.

I don't claim to be a true patriot and I don't turn my patriot meter to full when I log in, which seems to be the case with every expatriate Pakistani and armchair insafiyan.
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If I go on the site you are always on there, when do get to time to study or look after your patients?
 
I have holidays these days and there is plenty of online work nowadays. Gone are the days of those massive heavy books. Posting on pakpassion is manageable.

I am still a student, don't look after patients. I work with a few doctors at a hospital twice a week. I will be offline from September though, won't get much time.
 
Some explosive stuff on Mubashir Luqman's show on ARY. If even half the things this guy, Afzal Khan is saying are true, this should be grounds for a re-election.

Problem is:
1) Afzal Khan has retired from the EC and atm we only have his word as evidence. I'm afraid unless he comes out with something concrete as proof, the govt is just going to say he's a disgruntled employee looking for cheap fame.

2) Other channels won't report on this because of their childish rivalries. Therefore this won't get the attention the news deserves.

3) Luqman himself is not so credible. Every now and then he manufactures fairy tales. His credibility isn't too high even by Pakistani journalist standards.

EDIT: All other Pak channels now reporting this news. This is gonna be big.
 
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As a retired Add. Secretary of EC his disclosure carries wait. He is not some low level employee - he was an Additional Secretary!
 
Vegitto1 said:
As a retired Add. Secretary of EC his disclosure carries wait. He is not some low level employee - he was an Additional Secretary!
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No doubt. Afzal Khan will be under fire though. I think if additional whistleblowers come forward or he can come up with concrete proof(not sure how that will be possible) his case will be really strong. Just get the feeling this confession alone may be swept under the carpet.
 
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People's mandate stolen in 2013 elections, says ex-ECP additional secretary

http://www.dawn.com/news/1127449/pe...13-elections-says-ex-ecp-additional-secretary

ISLAMABAD: Former additional secretary of the Election commission of Pakistan Muhammad Afzal Khan has alleged that the general elections in May 2013 were rigged and that the people's mandate was ‘stolen’.

He said that former chief justices Iftikhar Chaudhry and Tassadduq Jillani were also involved in rigging the vote.

Khan made the allegation during an interview on a private television channel, in which he said that Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif did not win the elections in a free and fair manner.

He said during the interview that the Chief Election Commissioner Justice (retd) Fakhruddin G Ebrahim had shut his eyes on the rigging.

The former additional secretary said that the Election Commission had been put under tremendous pressure during the alleged rigging.

Khan said that judges were also involved in fixing the vote and that hearings of voter fraud was deliberately delayed.
 
Here are his earthshaking disclosures:

1) Organized vote fraud changed the outcome of the polls altogether

2) EX-CJ Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry played a role in the poll rigging

3) Ex Chief Election Commissioner of Pakistan, Fakhruddin G Ebrahim, chickened out

4) Ebrahim had turned a blind eye to the massive rigging as he was scared of whistleblowing

5) How did Chaudhry Nisar know that sealed votes were unverifiable?

6) 'Everyone' manipulated the vote according to his 'might'

7) The posting of Returning Officers (ROs) was ECP's job not ex-CJ's

8) Justice (Retd) Riaz Kiani is 90% responsible for corrupting ECP

http://www.samaa.tv/pakistan/25-Aug-2014/ex-ecp-official-says-100s-of-punctures-were-fixed-in-polls
 
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Mamoon said:
This is the tolerance, education, civility and behavior of the enlightened 'insaafiyans'.

Apparently, tabdeeli and change is limited to the removal of the PM only. the rules don't apply to Imran Khan and his bandwagon.
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It comes from the top. What kind of example is IK setting when he constantly uses foul below the belt language for everyone except people of his own party. PTI trolls on FB and Twitter are legendary for their abuse of any disagreeing journo, politician or celebrity.
 
s28 said:
Here are his earthshaking disclosures:

1) Organized vote fraud changed the outcome of the polls altogether

2) EX-CJ Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry played a role in the poll rigging

3) Ex Chief Election Commissioner of Pakistan, Fakhruddin G Ebrahim, chickened out

4) Ebrahim had turned a blind eye to the massive rigging as he was scared of whistleblowing

5) How did Chaudhry Nisar know that sealed votes were unverifiable?

6) 'Everyone' manipulated the vote according to his 'might'

7) The posting of Returning Officers (ROs) was ECP's job not ex-CJ's

8) Justice (Retd) Riaz Kiani is 90% responsible for corrupting ECP

http://www.samaa.tv/pakistan/25-Aug-2014/ex-ecp-official-says-100s-of-punctures-were-fixed-in-polls
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Btw, these are theories and assumptions, where is the evidence.
 
Whistleblower is the evidence. Never heard of Watergate ? Twisted minds may choose to conveniently forget.
 
Talat Hussain in twitter meltdown. Maryam Nawaz has stopped bleating and posting pictures of her dad.
 
saadibaba said:
Btw, these are theories and assumptions, where is the evidence.
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I'm sceptical too at this stage. Atm the only thing we have to go upon is the fact that the accuser was high up in the ECP.

He himself says he has no written evidence of any sort. I think its perfectly possible there is little/no paper trail/solid evidence that can actually back his words, assuming he's telling the truth. I guess you'd have to conduct vote audits/other procedures. What he's alleging also seems hard to prove. How do you prove someone is shirking from his duties or influencing others illegally or beyond his legal limits? Its mostly subjective.

If you've worked in Pakistan you'll know the paperwork here often doesn't reflect the reality of what goes on.
 
saadibaba said:
Btw, these are theories and assumptions, where is the evidence.
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Ok so now you ask a person who witnessed a rape/murder, to provide evidence?
What do you want him to get for you? some DNA samples? Weapon/fingerprints?

This isn't his job. He was a very influential person in the election commission and if he is making these disclosures, they carry hell of a lot of weight. Now it is up to the culprits to be forced to resign, and get a full-fledged fair investigation under-way.
 
BudMarsh said:
I'm sceptical too at this stage. Atm the only thing we have to go upon is the fact that the accuser was high up in the ECP.

He himself says he has no written evidence of any sort. I think its perfectly possible there is little/no paper trail/solid evidence that can actually back his words, assuming he's telling the truth. I guess you'd have to conduct vote audits/other procedures. What he's alleging also seems hard to prove. How do you prove someone is shirking from his duties or influencing others illegally or beyond his legal limits? Its mostly subjective.

If you've worked in Pakistan you'll know the paperwork here often doesn't reflect the reality of what goes on.
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Also his announcement seems to be coming as if on cue. Did he just woke up. What was he smoking for the last year or so that he just thought of confessing. IMO, the powers who are driving this and using IK as a pawn (like before) thought that the timing is ripe for a big announcement, just that extra push to make Nawaz resign and decided to play this card. In any case, still waiting for the umpires raised finger. Now almost longing to hear those golden words, "Mere Aziz Hamwatnoon".


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Batsmen with integrity would go without umpires finger going up if they knicked it or been caught out.
 
s28 said:
Batsmen with integrity would go without umpires finger going up if they knicked it or been caught out.
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I think a batsman with true integrity won't even come to play this dirty game in the first place.


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So it seems intel agencies have phone call recordings of SS and Rana Sanaullah ordering IG to open fire.

Bhutto was hanged for lot less.


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Just going through the timeline of Afzal Khan on twitter, this guy is a genuine insaafian. Lol. Along with his full fledged support for the Azaadi march and evisceration of journalists not towing PTI's line, he wrote on twitter to SMQ that he would like to meet him when he is in Islo back in May 2014. Neural observer whose zameer just woke up, I don't think so.


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saadibaba said:
Just going through the timeline of Afzal Khan on twitter, this guy is a genuine insaafian. Lol. Along with his full fledged support for the Azaadi march and evisceration of journalists not towing PTI's line, he wrote on twitter to SMQ that he would like to meet him when he is in Islo back in May 2014. Neural observer whose zameer just woke up, I don't think so.


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Lol, why don't you answer some of the questions raised in the video I posted rather than resorting to name calling
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Ring a bell? I wonder who said this?
 
Fastandfurious said:


Ring a bell? I wonder who said this?
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Can you not concise his points in a coherent post. I prefer reading the points so I can highlight and answer them rather than just watching hours of video on demand.

BTW, you edited my quote, very sneaky of you. My quote was


Originally Posted by saadibaba
Lol, why don't you answer some of the questions raised in the article I posted rather than resorting to name calling like your potty mouth leader.
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saadibaba said:
This banner is accusing Maulana Diesel of pedophilia but the line below it says "KPK is ours now" so what does this mean, that only PTI can do Bachabazi in KPK from now onward?
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Or it may mean KPK was not ours before and so Bachabazi was going on, now KPK is ours and so we would not allow Bachabazi anymore.

But I agree that it should have been more clear so that people with less intelligence can easily understand it
 
saadibaba said:
Can you not concise his points in a coherent post. I prefer reading the points so I can highlight and answer them rather than just watching hours of video on demand.

BTW, you edited my quote, very sneaky of you. My quote was
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My point was that your remark was hypocritical. Don't need a reply as I won't read your posts anymore.
 
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saadibaba said:
Btw, these are theories and assumptions, where is the evidence.
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It's a confession of a person who is part of the system.

When a getaway driver names people involved in a robbery, he isn't making allegations but a confession because he isn't going to get off free is he? Since Afzal Khan was part of it he will be punished like the rest
 
Vegitto1 said:
It's a confession of a person who is part of the system.

When a getaway driver names people involved in a robbery, he isn't making allegations but a confession because he isn't going to get off free is he? Since Afzal Khan was part of it he will be punished like the rest
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But if that "whistle blower" has a vested interest in taking down the govt., his status as a whistle blower will come into question. And even whistle blowers need evidence, otherwise it becomes his word against others word.
 
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My point was that your remark was hypocritical. Don't need a reply as I won't read your posts anymore.
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Yes, asked you for a simple task to put his points on paper so I can answer them and you ran away with you tail between your legs. Typical of Insafians. Ask them to use their brains instead of mindlessly posting videos and interviews of their Quaid and they get offended as if using ones brain in the make believe world of PTIistan is next to blasphemy.
 
[MENTION=1853]D[/MENTION]esmukh: More Butts emerge. Dawn News says the PTI men who beat Aaj journalists were Imran Butt and Omar Butt.

What is wrong with these Butts.
 
As i posted in other thread:

Nawaz Sharif being involved in money laundering isn't a secret.
Nawaz Sharif being involved in tax evasion isn't a secret.
Nawaz Sharif being involved in foreign investment & his overseas assets aren't secret.
Nawaz Sharif bribing journalists, judges, courts isn't a secret.
Nawaz Sharif awarding his family & relatives isn't a secret.
Nawaz Sharif using power to increase wealth isn't a secret.
Nawaz Sharif taking money from establishment to rig election isn't secret.
etc
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BUT Nawaz Sharif can't ever be involved in election rigging, Imran Khan is just desperate to become PM otherwise Nawaz Sharif and Zardari are saving democracy and Imran is conspiring against democracy.
 
The way I see it, we may not have captured Kashmir, but the Kashmiris have captured us. I wonder if there's some sort of symbolism at work here.
 
saadibaba said:
This banner is accusing Maulana Diesel of pedophilia but the line below it says "KPK is ours now" so what does this mean, that only PTI can do Bachabazi in KPK from now onward?
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Have to admit... that was a bit funny.

EDIT: unlike your other posts in this thread...
 
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saadibaba said:
But if that "whistle blower" has a vested interest in taking down the govt., his status as a whistle blower will come into question. And even whistle blowers need evidence, otherwise it becomes his word against others word.
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not at all, in his case he could be from mars it would make no difference. the information is so detailed and the names quoted are so extensive, it will be a simple matter to corroborate it, as long as there are no deliberate attempts to pervert the course of justice. he was recognised as an insider too, so whatever his affiliation, and whatever the reason for his timing are speculative and irrelevant in the face of that tsunami of news.

it is consistent with the widespread reported corruption and legal cases in fact that have been brought against the likes of sharif and zardari. its obvious as to why they have been colluding and enjoying their last supper. once justice prevails, both are going to be locked away for a very long time. if in fact they are found guilty of treason which is a very realistic possibility, i wonder whether there is a risk of capital punishment.

all the little minions and demons that have been supporting them and eating from the filthy scraps falling from their table must be starting to panic too.
 
godzilla said:
not at all, in his case he could be from mars it would make no difference. the information is so detailed and the names quoted are so extensive, it will be a simple matter to corroborate it, as long as there are no deliberate attempts to pervert the course of justice. he was recognised as an insider too, so whatever his affiliation, and whatever the reason for his timing are speculative and irrelevant in the face of that tsunami of news.

it is consistent with the widespread reported corruption and legal cases in fact that have been brought against the likes of sharif and zardari. its obvious as to why they have been colluding and enjoying their last supper. once justice prevails, both are going to be locked away for a very long time. if in fact they are found guilty of treason which is a very realistic possibility, i wonder whether there is a risk of capital punishment.

all the little minions and demons that have been supporting them and eating from the filthy scraps falling from their table must be starting to panic too.
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First of all the affiliation matters. Some PML-N supporter at the ECP can tomorrow come out and say he saw no rigging at all or accuse Afzal Khan of something sinister than would you believe his every word despite knowing his affiliations.

Hang them all for what I care. This whole political process is a joke anyways as the Army has shown once again who is really in power and how any breach of their domain or space is simply not acceptable.



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saadibaba said:
Btw, these are theories and assumptions, where is the evidence.
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Siraj-Ul-Haq has vouched for Afzal Khan's credibility. He and a number of other people have said that Afzal khan is an honest man!
 
saadibaba said:
First of all the affiliation matters. Some PML-N supporter at the ECP can tomorrow come out and say he saw no rigging at all or accuse Afzal Khan of something sinister than would you believe his every word despite knowing his affiliations.

Hang them all for what I care. This whole political process is a joke anyways as the Army has shown once again who is really in power and how any breach of their domain or space is simply not acceptable.



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first of all it doesnt matter what affiliation there is whatsoever. if an ex-ec actor comes out tomorrow, what matters is what he says. for anyone who heard this guy speak today, its very difficult to see how this is not going to have very serious ramifications. if a pmln guy comes out with just as serious levels of details, i think it would be very difficult for people to ignore him despite his affiliation.

whoever is guilty i agree should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. i disagree with you that this is because of the influence of the army, i believe they should be prosecuted on the principle of justice.

you seem to avoid the questions about the ppp and corruption and your take on it.
 
godzilla said:
first of all it doesnt matter what affiliation there is whatsoever. if an ex-ec actor comes out tomorrow, what matters is what he says. for anyone who heard this guy speak today, its very difficult to see how this is not going to have very serious ramifications. if a pmln guy comes out with just as serious levels of details, i think it would be very difficult for people to ignore him despite his affiliation.

whoever is guilty i agree should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. i disagree with you that this is because of the influence of the army, i believe they should be prosecuted on the principle of justice.

you seem to avoid the questions about the ppp and corruption and your take on it.
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If you don't think Army has anything to do with this than you my friend should be awarded the title of being the most naive person on this forum, maybe deliberately naive.

PPP got what it deserved in the last elections, how a democracy should work rather than being ruled by a mob lead by an egomaniac.
 
Seriously how can someone still say there isn't evidence for the elections being rigged?
 
saadibaba said:
If you don't think Army has anything to do with this than you my friend should be awarded the title of being the most naive person on this forum, maybe deliberately naive.

PPP got what it deserved in the last elections, how a democracy should work rather than being ruled by a mob lead by an egomaniac.
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im not sure whether in a panic for not being able to answer simple questions about this revelation today, or whether youre running out of tangential excuses to avoid discussing the meat of the allegations, but you misunderstood my comment. i didnt mean to intimate the army had nothing to do with 'any of this', i meant to say that i would agree with 'hanging them all' solely on account of justice if they are found guilty, not because of any reason related to the army - i didnt comment on whether i believe the army controls the electoral process or not.

corruption is indicative of egomania, just as name calling is indicative of stupidity.

it is a disgustingly, filthy mentality that would think that losing an election is just recompense for charges of treason, money laundering, corruption, theft, possibly murder, fraud and so on, or that a system that delivers this form of recompense is a good system that is just.
 
godzilla said:
im not sure whether in a panic for not being able to answer simple questions about this revelation today, or whether youre running out of tangential excuses to avoid discussing the meat of the allegations, but you misunderstood my comment. i didnt mean to intimate the army had nothing to do with 'any of this', i meant to say that i would agree with 'hanging them all' solely on account of justice if they are found guilty, not because of any reason related to the army - i didnt comment on whether i believe the army controls the electoral process or not.

corruption is indicative of egomania, just as name calling is indicative of stupidity.

it is a disgustingly, filthy mentality that would think that losing an election is just recompense for charges of treason, money laundering, corruption, theft, possibly murder, fraud and so on, or that a system that delivers this form of recompense is a good system that is just.
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I'm honestly not sure what you are saying anymore. You have resorted to name calling yourself but you also think its an indication of stupidity. Calm down, Im afraid your BP might get too high and you might end up having a heart attack or something. Also,I've heard about PPP's corruption but murder, treason, etc. please enlighten me as I have no clue what you are talking about.


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Vegitto1 said:
Siraj-Ul-Haq has vouched for Afzal Khan's credibility. He and a number of other people have said that Afzal khan is an honest man!
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Why does he need vouching for anyways and that too by Army stooges. Daal main kuch kaala hai kiya?


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saadibaba said:
I'm honestly not sure what you are saying anymore. You have resorted to name calling yourself but you also think its an indication of stupidity. Calm down, Im afraid your BP might get too high and you might end up having a heart attack or something. Also,I've heard about PPP's corruption but murder, treason, etc. please enlighten me as I have no clue what you are talking about.


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ahh yes bp. nice one. a lot easier to throw out a school yard jibe that even ten year olds find trite than actually address the simple questions you dont have answers for because they expose you.

talking of stupidity, this might help to enlighten you, its just one helpful hint, i hope you might be able to do the rest yourself: http://bit.ly/1qevsIC
 
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ahh yes bp. nice one. i didnt name call, i stated facts.

talking of stupidity, this might help you: http://bit.ly/1qevsIC
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Your name calling is stating facts, my name calling is name calling, huh! Insafians like their leader do have a way with always claiming the moral highground.

Still waiting for the murder or treason charges that you so conveniently added to your list of things PPP should be hanged for. The link you listed was for Zardari and Corruption. What happened. Said things you shouldn't have.....managed to make a fool of yourself didn't you, just like your leader.



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We cannot believe Afzal Khan until the matter is investigated - No concrete evidence. But we can say that army is behind all this with utmost conviction without any proof - Noora Logic!
 
Read this,

The Sharif brothers,however,offered Qadri to submit a new application excluding the names of the PM,CM and other senior PML-N officials so that it can be entertained by the Punjab gov.
 
saadibaba said:
Your name calling is stating facts, my name calling is name calling, huh! Insafians like their leader do have a way with always claiming the moral highground.

Still waiting for the murder or treason charges that you so conveniently added to your list of things PPP should be hanged for. The link you listed was for Zardari and Corruption. What happened. Said things you shouldn't have.....managed to make a fool of yourself didn't you, just like your leader.



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Fool? Here we go again. Speaking of foolish, no, the edit was because I realised the audience wasn't likely to understand a construct as subtle as irony. Or differentiate between a generalism and a specificity.

Murder and treason are the hang ups? It's possible to google those too. Forgive me for assuming you might be able to enter three words into a google search. You can add benazir to it too if you want further practice at PPP type extreme investigation.

How about the other categories? Happy to ignore those? Embezzlement, theft and fraud no real culpable issue for a ppp supporter? Not really surprising, is it.

I understand how difficult it will be for you to justify the stance you've taken, so much so that you might not realise that zarari was the head of the PPP - that's the mysterious link - elected by PPP officials after the not very curious demise of his wife. Don't really want to suggest google yet again to you but...
 
If the army wanted to topple the government it would have done so a long time ago and very easily.
 
BTW- how did the Noora counter marches go in Pindi yesterday? I can imagine a sitting govt with a huge majority must have filled out the twin cities
 
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This doesn't deserve a new thread. It was said as a light hearted comment when he was speaking to the crowd just to keep them going and give them a laugh - He is not looking to get married in the near future
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but a lot of conversation went on geo news later on about his marriage
 
I always thought that IK was wrong about Geo and the jang group but having seen their biased coverage and their poorly written and one sided editorials, I am convinced that like his allegations about the electoral commission,he is also right about this.
 
So one notice by Ifikhar Ch. was enough for Imran to hide his tail between his legs?
 
Mamoon said:
So one notice by Ifikhar Ch. was enough for Imran to hide his tail between his legs?
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Fake news - He said during his speech today that he has not apologised for anything from Iftikhar Ch.
 
Bewal Express said:
BTW- how did the Noora counter marches go in Pindi yesterday? I can imagine a sitting govt with a huge majority must have filled out the twin cities
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:tuq ne kafan pehn lia ha God forbid but i fear we have another lal masjid in our hands stooge khwaja gave a verdict as per the desire of :nawaz
 
I fear bloodshed. Massive PML N rally on the roads of RWP right now. Molana Fazl ur Rahman rally merged with N rally. The plan looks, if you don't let me play, I wont either. God bless Pakistan.
 
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one thing i like about this long march is that normal folks of Pakistan have finally get an entry into the red zone. These normal guys probably would have been humiliated, beaten up or even shot to death in other case. Heck I have seen a Pakistani selling Gola Gunda (Slurpee) and another Pakistani Boot polisher working in red zone.
 
News Sources says there is a Operation expected against the long march in next 24 hours after SC decision. Lost all the respect for Supreme Court of Pakistan today after another biased decision where was SC when 14 people were murdered and 85 injured on CM order 2 months ago? Where was SC when 3 years people were in front of SC and parliament during lawyers movement? Where was SC when hundreds and thousands of billions rupees corruption was done in last 14 months.

Shame just shame for this pathetic decision against the long march. This RedZone is a part of Pakistan yeh kisi ke baap ki jaageer nae hai na Mian sahab ko jahez main mila hai.
 
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2 Anchor persons Dr Moeed Pirzada and Fawad Chaudhary thrown out of Express News on PML (N) order because they were not talking in favor of Shareefs.

Btw saw another anchor person Imran Khan from Express News doing his show on Dunya News today. Is Dunya News a partner channel of Express News? Every person that leave Express News joins Dunya News :P Kamran Shahid, Mubashar Lucman, Imran Khan (Anchor) and many more examples.
 
Allah Pakistan par reham karay something serious will happen now. We may end up with martial law tonight.
 
dhump said:
Allah Pakistan par reham karay something serious will happen now. We may end up with martial law tonight.
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I will stand with Army this time. I wasted many years protesting against Musharraf for Democracy and then of favor of CJ restoration. Ager is cheaz ka naam jamhuriat or democracy hai ko pichle 6 saal dekhi hai PML N or PPP ki federal or provisional governments main to main 100 baar laanat bhejta hun aysee democracy per muje dictatorship qabool hai or main saari umer pachtaunga ke mene apni zindagi ke chand qeemti saal in luteron or inki baadshahat ko restore kerne ke liay waste kiay.
 
CM Punjab flying for China and Zardari also flying for China in this situation clearly shows things are going to blast in next 24 to 48 hours. Humaare politicians ayse time mulk se bhaag kyun jaate hen?
 
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I will stand with Army this time. I wasted many years protesting against Musharraf for Democracy and then of favor of CJ restoration. Ager is cheaz ka naam jamhuriat or democracy hai ko pichle 6 saal dekhi hai PML N or PPP ki federal or provisional governments main to main 100 baar laanat bhejta hun aysee democracy per muje dictatorship qabool hai or main saari umer pachtaunga ke mene apni zindagi ke chand qeemti saal in luteron or inki baadshahat ko restore kerne ke liay waste kiay.
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I always thought we as a nation deserve a dictator who at-least work on public interest at ground level. I still remember time of Musharraf when Pakistan was a much safer place. IK was a hope and still better than these chors zardari and NS. I never trusted or backed thir lawyer movement it was joke of democracy and CJ is biggest crook.
 
dhump said:
Allah Pakistan par reham karay something serious will happen now. We may end up with martial law tonight.
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There wont be any martial law. Chances are Chori Nisar will be using force against the PAT workers tonight.
SS has already left for China.
 
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There wont be any martial law. Chances are Chori Nisar will be using force against the PAT workers tonight.
SS has already left for China.
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Any bloodshed or collusion will result in martial law. SS and Zaradari flying to china adds more confidence in this. Bloodshed in Islamabad may result in civil war.
 
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I always thought we as a nation deserve a dictator who at-least work on public interest at ground level. I still remember time of Musharraf when Pakistan was a much safer place. IK was a hope and still better than these chors zardari and NS. I never trusted or backed thir lawyer movement it was joke of democracy and CJ is biggest crook.
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I agree Pakistan was a much better place in Musharraf era and the District Nazim of my city spent more funds for public in 4 years then these so called MNA's spent in 60 years. Local administration was far better and now these Nooras are giving all the funds to MNAs so they can do all the corruptions they want. IK is my last hope too but trust me these guys will never let him come in power because of the reasons you already know so even in next election all these luteras party will come together and form a goverment together even if PTI get 100+ seats still they will sit in opposition. A dictator is far better then these luteras daakoos and chors. And the CJ made our Supreme Court a joke ab SC ko samoson or botles or kapre taangne per suo moto yaad ajata hai but awam ke merne per unki aankhen band hen.
 
Bashira_taeli said:
There wont be any martial law. Chances are Chori Nisar will be using force against the PAT workers tonight.
SS has already left for China.
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ALLAH na kere aysa ho but i assure you aik laash be giri to PML (N) will become history. Log Jaati Umra Rai Waind se ghaseet ker nikaleenge in shareefon ko or yaadgaar chowk per ulta latkayenge yeh ab 90s waali politics nae chalegi inki.
 
Only a dictator can bring order to this country in this current situtation.

IK was a hope, but until NS resigns or is forced to resign he will just remain a hope.

I just hope Gen. Raheel could be the Waheed Kakkar of our generation.
 
Damn, things seem to be very, very serious in Pakistan at the moment. May Allah (SWT) help and protect our Watan-e-Aziz - Ameen!
 
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