PTI's Tsunami March on 14th August [Mega Thread]

[saadibaba]

Waise is march ne PM ka BM bana diya hai.

(BM = bowel movement)

 

[anakin]

Let us all rejoice now! We have succeeded!

Dunya and Samaa now breaking that the Chinese President has cancelled his visit due to security reasons. Security report mentions dharnas, violence, illegal setting up of checkposts to check police as the reasons for this decision. Had requested the evacuation of red zone.

They took Sheikh Rasheed on the line for this, and he bumbled his way through it, as usual.



Now does anyone understand why the STATE is more important than personalities?!

IK has succeeded in doing only one thing... destroyed any little reforms that could have happened.
Reforms are slow and gradual, dont cause upheavels
he went revolutionary path, despite having the path of reform open to him

He has destroyed any little respect for Pakistani institution in the eyes of the entire world,
There might be flaws in the system, but when you mock them so openly.
The elections (however rigged), gave him recognition as the leader of the people and he challenges that very process by going so outside the system.
His lack of Patience has sent Pakistan back by decades.

 

[Vegitto1]

hahaha news coming through that Chinese President has cancelled his visit to Pakistan after his team failed to provide security clearance lol.

Shame on PMLN for not being able to provide security for a foreign President. Incompetent governance!

 

[wasim-fan]

I must be mistaken. But since when do political parties provide security.

 

[blinding light]

hahaha news coming through that Chinese President has cancelled his visit to Pakistan after his team failed to provide security clearance lol.

Shame on PMLN for not being able to provide security for a foreign President. Incompetent governance!

Shame on IMRAN KHAN AND QADRI for creating this damn situation!

Listen to the reports! The government freaking bent over backwards to accommodate these anarchists! And what did you do? Wrecked the State TV, desecrated the Parliament and Pak Secratariat!

China EXPLICITLY asked to clear the red zone and you come up with this! Pathetic excuses!

Mubarak ho sab ko. Today, PMLN didn't lose. PAKISTAN LOST because of this tamasha!

 

[Vegitto1]

[MENTION=14431]blinding light[/MENTION] PMLN is in government. it's their responsibility to provide security for foreign visits lol. Shame on them for not being able to fulfil the most basic part of governance.

If government wanted the Red Zone cleared, the PM should have resigned. He himself asked Yousaf Raza Gillani to resign when he became controversial and to comeback if he was cleared. So does his logic not apply to him?

And, we have had so much investments in Pakistan over the years however I have not seen how it has benefitted the common man. Even today when it rains the whole of Lahore becomes Venice. Where is this investment going?

 

[blinding light]

PMLN is in government. it's their responsibility to provide security for foreign visits lol. Shame on them for not being able to fulfil the most basic part of governance.

If government wanted the Red Zone cleared, the PM should have resigned. He himself asked Yousaf Raza Gillani to resign when he became controversial and to comeback if he was cleared. So does his logic not apply to him?

And, we have had so much investments in Pakistan over the years however I have not seen how it has benefitted the common man. Even today when it rains the whole of Lahore becomes Venice. Where is this investment going?

Keep lolling. Keep lolling and giving these disgusting reasons which are not worth the words that would constitute their rebuttal. Hard to consider your words about Lahore and the common man given you don't even live here.

Derail the system, destroy your institutions, unite with PAT and create your own Imranistan.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Well done IK and fake mullah, put 32 billion dollars of potential investment in risk


I find it shocking people think a foreign leader can vist when a mob is sitting outside your parliament

 

[Vegitto1]

Keep lolling. Keep lolling and giving these disgusting reasons which are not worth the words that would constitute their rebuttal. Hard to consider your words about Lahore and the common man given you don't even live here.

Derail the system, destroy your institutions, unite with PAT and create your own Imranistan.

Your first paragraph suggests you have no rebuttal.

As far as living in Lahore goes. I am a practicing barrister at Lahore High Court. Now that wouldn't be possible if I didn't live there.

The system is already derailed, institutions are destroyed - we just want these to be fixed. We are sick of selective implementation of our Constitution. We are sick of politicians sacking officials who don't follow illegal orders and we are sick of these ancient bags of bones sitting in our Parliament and passing wind! Oh and we are also sick of Zardaris (Pretending to be Bhuttos) and Sharifs

 

[Vegitto1]

Well done IK and fake mullah, put 32 billion dollars of potential investment in risk


I find it shocking people think a foreign leader can vist when a mob is sitting outside your parliament

$32 Billion dollar which would have gone in Swiss accounts. We are glad that PTI and PAT stopped it.

 

[UsmanhailsAfridi]

Shame on IMRAN KHAN AND QADRI for creating this damn situation!

Listen to the reports! The government freaking bent over backwards to accommodate these anarchists! And what did you do? Wrecked the State TV, desecrated the Parliament and Pak Secratariat!

China EXPLICITLY asked to clear the red zone and you come up with this! Pathetic excuses!

Mubarak ho sab ko. Today, PMLN didn't lose. PAKISTAN LOST because of this tamasha!

so sad but you know what's sadder, Pakistan has BEEN LOSING for 30+ years under Nawaz Sharif. But you still continue to put Imran and Nawaz in the same sentence. You deserve this Pakistan, nothing more.

 

[Indiafan]

so sad but you know what's sadder, Pakistan has BEEN LOSING for 30+ years under Nawaz Sharif. But you still continue to put Imran and Nawaz in the same sentence. You deserve this Pakistan, nothing more.

Expect Pakistan HASN'T been under Nawaz for 30 consecutive years. If he had been given consecutive years, he would have been thrown out after first 10-15 years. But since you again interrupted democracy, it also gave him a chance to be a hero and come back

 

[blinding light]

Your first paragraph suggests you have no rebuttal.

As far as living in Lahore goes. I am a practicing barrister at Lahore High Court. Now that wouldn't be possible if I didn't live there.

The system is already derailed, institutions are destroyed - we just want these to be fixed. We are sick of selective implementation of our Constitution. We are sick of politicians sacking officials who don't follow illegal orders and we are sick of these ancient bags of bones sitting in our Parliament and passing wind! Oh and we are also sick of Zardaris (Pretending to be Bhuttos) and Sharifs

Just one question.

Will you be dancing to this now in Lalik Chowk or Liberty Market?!

Because jiyalas don't listen to nor acknowledge logic. Even if it's been repeated a 100 times. Thus naturally, that is all I could ask. Pakistan be damned, that rock-type tarana was rad.

 

[blinding light]

Well done IK and fake mullah, put 32 billion dollars of potential investment in risk


I find it shocking people think a foreign leader can vist when a mob is sitting outside your parliament

I find it shocking they still think it is the govt's fault!

 

[Indiafan]

The system is already derailed, institutions are destroyed - we just want these to be fixed. We are sick of selective implementation of our Constitution. We are sick of politicians sacking officials who don't follow illegal orders and we are sick of these ancient bags of bones sitting in our Parliament and passing wind! Oh and we are also sick of Zardaris (Pretending to be Bhuttos) and Sharifs

Every democracy in the world has gone through the same broken institution,s the same selective implementations, etc

Only CONTINUED democracy can cure this. When you OVERTHROW someone to fix something, it is very likely the same problems will easily COME BACK again (Mushraff over threw Sharif, made changes to the constitution, isn't Sharif back?) When will you guys learn

 

[saadibaba]

Every democracy in the world has gone through the same broken institution,s the same selective implementations, etc

Only CONTINUED democracy can cure this. When you OVERTHROW someone to fix something, it is very likely the same problems will easily come back again (Mushraf over threw Sharif, made changes to constitutions, isn't Sharif back?) When will you guys learn

We are all beginning to sound like broken records here....


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[blinding light]

I feel like ripping my hair out here, [MENTION=2071]saadibaba[/MENTION]! This is insanity! This is Anti-Pakistan now!

 

[Vegitto1]

Just one question.

Will you be dancing to this now in Lalik Chowk or Liberty Market?!

Because jiyalas don't listen to nor acknowledge logic. Even if it's been repeated a 100 times. Thus naturally, that is all I could ask. Pakistan be damned, that rock-type tarana was rad.

Jiyalas are people like you who do not know the abc of democracy and keep arguing pointlessly.

had you had as much exposure as some learned people then you would know the difference between right and wrong. You keep going on about "System""System""System""System""System" like a parrot! do you even know what makes a good democracy, how it functions and why it hasn't worked in Pakistan?

I speak from experience, my own and my father's who is a former Ambassador of Pakistan. If you think that things will improve even 0.1% under PMLN and PPP then you are very much mistaken or delusional or part of the system.

 

[DrSchultz]

Mubarik ho, Mubarik ho!

 

[Indiafan]

We are all beginning to sound like broken records here....


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Yes, they repeat the same thing, they get the same reply. But it is not like they do not have live examples of these things not working. After all, every time army interfered, they did it because they though government was corrupt, they wanted to improve the country, etc. How come every time it just got worse? How come every time the same corrupt government came to power?

You have to respect the process if not the government. If you can break your constitution whenever you want to for whatever reason, what guarantee is that any reform brought about and any new constitution will not change? For now parties might agree under pressure. But tomorrow? You can write the best rules and have a great constitution on paper. But once you get in the habit of breaking constitution every few years, even the best rules will go the same way. Every reform which Imran suggested will also be thrown out the same way.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

Imran sends his mp's back to parliament
Not sure Imran will follow Arvind Kejriwal's lead and completely retire from politics just yet

He will just bide his time till Nawaz slips up again

 

[Vegitto1]

Every democracy in the world has gone through the same broken institution,s the same selective implementations, etc

Only CONTINUED democracy can cure this. When you OVERTHROW someone to fix something, it is very likely the same problems will easily COME BACK again (Mushraff over threw Sharif, made changes to the constitution, isn't Sharif back?) When will you guys learn

Oh please! you had Gandhi, Nehru, Vallabhai Patel, Indra Gandhi, Vajpaee - Just go and read their biographies! these were accomplished men - a role model for future politicians.

What does Pakistan has? Jinnah and Bhutto! - Former gave us Pakistan but did not survive to strengthen our institutions. The latter started of well but lost it a bit in the end and his party is now a Prime example of family dynasty. People vote for the name Bhutto and not for their policies, thats how bad things are.

When we look at Labour, Conservatives, Republicans, Democrats etc. we talk about these parties and their policies. They have had many great leaders but the Party has always been bigger than these individuals. In Pakistan we only have Bhutto and Sharifs! If we get rid of these names and let deserving people rise through the ranks, then we can allow democracy to flourish!

At this moment in time we are being sold monarchy dressed up as democracy.

 

[blinding light]

Jiyalas are people like you who do not know the abc of democracy and keep arguing pointlessly.

had you had as much exposure as some learned people then you would know the difference between right and wrong. You keep going on about "System""System""System""System""System" like a parrot! do you even know what makes a good democracy, how it functions and why it hasn't worked in Pakistan?

I speak from experience, my own and my father's who is a former Ambassador of Pakistan. If you think that things will improve even 0.1% under PMLN and PPP then you are very much mistaken or delusional or part of the system.

WRONG.

Jiyalas are people LIKE YOU who worship politicians, treat them as messiahs and fantasize them as true saviours of the country!

PAKISTAN OVER EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL - BE IT IK OR NAWAZ. Is it that hard to understand?!

I know damn well what a democracy is. And ONLY IN democracies will you find the govt bending over backwards to accommodate anarchists!!

 

[PetroDollars]

Every democracy in the world has gone through the same broken institution,s the same selective implementations, etc

Only CONTINUED democracy can cure this. When you OVERTHROW someone to fix something, it is very likely the same problems will easily COME BACK again (Mushraff over threw Sharif, made changes to the constitution, isn't Sharif back?) When will you guys learn

This time we have learnt, thats why we DEMAND a technocratic gov. backed by the army and NOT DIRECT MARTIAL LAW.

 

[Indiafan]

Oh please! you had Gandhi, Nehru, Vallabhai Patel, Indra Gandhi, Vajpaee - Just go and read their biographies! these were accomplished men - a role model for future politicians.

What does Pakistan has? Jinnah and Bhutto! - Former gave us Pakistan but did not survive to strengthen our institutions. The latter started of well but lost it a bit in the end and his party is now a Prime example of family dynasty. People vote for the name Bhutto and not for their policies, thats how bad things are.

When we look at Labour, Conservatives, Republicans, Democrats etc. we talk about these parties and their policies. They have had many great leaders but the Party has always been bigger than these individuals. In Pakistan we only have Bhutto and Sharifs! If we get rid of these names and let deserving people rise through the ranks, then we can allow democracy to flourish!

At this moment in time we are being sold monarchy dressed up as democracy.

Gandhi died soon after. Do you know the amount of corruption India had? If army had interrupted, the likes of Vajpayee would never have risen to power

How did Imran Khan rise to power? Do you think it is a co-incidence that his rise co-incided with the first time a democratic government completed it's term? No. People can only rise to power under such an environment, not under military rule. One completed term, Imran gets 40 seat. 2-3 terms and Imran might be elected PM. Lakhs voted for his this time. Soon crores would have. Not any more. And in 20-30 years if continous democracy you might have had 10 Imrans

 

[PetroDollars]

So after turning Lahore into Paris now chota ganja has turned Lahore into Venice, We have progressed so much under them. $500m for metro bus, underpasses and flyovers were there not needed YET NO SEWAGE SYSTEM

 

[Indiafan]

This time we have learnt, thats why we DEMAND a technocratic gov. backed by the army and NOT DIRECT MARTIAL LAW.

Wouldn't work IMO. As long as people are not in charge of their destiny, nothing will change. I don't know how government backed by army will be any different. There will be an interim government. They will set some rules. Then 2 years will go by. Then fresh elections will be held. People will be fed up. Imran will lose whatever gains he made. Really corrupt people will come back to power with big votes. Then lather, rinse, repeat

 

[saadibaba]

One thing this march has achieved and I'm glad for it is that it clearly showed how wise and politically mature PPP is. Even the speeches on the parliament by Aitizaz and Shah were one of the best I've heard from any politician. Zardari could have taken the popular decision by siding with PTI and the govt. would have come down like a house of cards. But they know that derailing the democratic process is not beneficial to anyone in the long run. PPP and PML-N have lived through this through the 90's, each of them pulling the others leg by siding with the establishment. WThis led to the formation of 'Charter of Democracy'. PTI being new to this game I guess is still stuck in the 90's era. Javed Hashmi tried to explain that to IK but to no avail. Hopefully another decade or so and PTI will be like PPP and PML-n as well.


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[anakin]

Oh please! you had Gandhi, Nehru, Vallabhai Patel, Indra Gandhi, Vajpaee - Just go and read their biographies! these were accomplished men - a role model for future politicians.

What does Pakistan has? Jinnah and Bhutto! - Former gave us Pakistan but did not survive to strengthen our institutions. The latter started of well but lost it a bit in the end and his party is now a Prime example of family dynasty. People vote for the name Bhutto and not for their policies, thats how bad things are.

When we look at Labour, Conservatives, Republicans, Democrats etc. we talk about these parties and their policies. They have had many great leaders but the Party has always been bigger than these individuals. In Pakistan we only have Bhutto and Sharifs! If we get rid of these names and let deserving people rise through the ranks, then we can allow democracy to flourish!

At this moment in time we are being sold monarchy dressed up as democracy.

Dont be so over- dramatic bro.
Leaders are not born out of nothing, they are nourished by the systems in place.
Zia destroyed Pakistan's systems which were far superior to India,
IK is trying to do is undermine any essence of democracy by trying to proclaiming to be champion of democracy.
It doesn't work that way. You have to respect the laws you have, if you dont like, then grow yourself(which he did) but powerful enough to improve the laws.
This is Riot threat is anarchy, Real life is not a movie "V for Vendetta"
Country is a huge huge engine, you cant just kick it and expect it to become smooth running in one go.

This protest is an easy precedent for those who oppose IK, if he comes to power and tries to make changes.
Whats to prevent a few privileged to do the same (A few hundred thousand protesters can be gathered easily, remember Sharif and Bhuttos get voted by millions still)

 

[Vegitto1]

WRONG.

Jiyalas are people LIKE YOU who worship politicians, treat them as messiahs and fantasize them as true saviours of the country!

PAKISTAN OVER EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL - BE IT IK OR NAWAZ. Is it that hard to understand?!

I know damn well what a democracy is. And ONLY IN democracies will you find the govt bending over backwards to accommodate anarchists!!

Imran Khan is not a corrupt individual like Nawaz Sharif or Zardari, let us make that clear. That alone makes him the ideal choice. You cannot have thieves guarding the vault can you now?

Pakistan over every single individual indeed, I agree. However Pakistan is not going to run itself is it? Pakistan is a name given to a small piece of land, defined by invisible lines called borders. However, to make Pakistan function and progress you need honest and visionary leaders.

Unfortunately visionaries we don't have at the moment, However we have a honest leader so I guess that's a good start isn't it?

 

[the Great Khan]

I hear the Chinese pres may have cancelled his visit due to security concerns. This is a failure of our politics and a failure on all sides to compromise and come to an amicable solution that will benefit the people of Pakistan. It seems the whole security apparatus has been rented out to our elite politicians to protect them from a "few thousand" protestors. Quite shameful.

 

[blinding light]

Imran Khan is not a corrupt individual like Nawaz Sharif or Zardari, let us make that clear. That alone makes him the ideal choice. You cannot have thieves guarding the vault can you now?

Pakistan over every single individual indeed, I agree. However Pakistan is not going to run itself is it? Pakistan is a name given to a small piece of land, defined by invisible lines called borders. However, to make Pakistan function and progress you need honest and visionary leaders.

Unfortunately visionaries we don't have at the moment, However we have a honest leader so I guess that's a good start isn't it?

Dont be so over- dramatic bro.
Leaders are not born out of nothing, they are nourished by the systems in place.
Zia destroyed Pakistan's systems which were far superior to India,
IK is trying to do is undermine any essence of democracy by trying to proclaiming to be champion of democracy.
It doesn't work that way. You have to respect the laws you have, if you dont like, then grow yourself(which he did) but powerful enough to improve the laws.
This is Riot threat is anarchy, Real life is not a movie "V for Vendetta"
Country is a huge huge engine, you cant just kick it and expect it to become smooth running in one go.

This protest is an easy precedent for those who oppose IK, if he comes to power and tries to make changes.
Whats to prevent a few privileged to do the same (A few hundred thousand protesters can be gathered easily, remember Sharif and Bhuttos get voted by millions still)

Thank you, anakin!

 

[saadibaba]

Koi baat nahi, once IK is PM, we won't need any Chinese money. Inshallah, Allah will rain down manna from the sky and oil will spontaneously burst out of every open field in Pakistan. We will be rewarded handsomely for this revolution. Inshallah!


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[the Great Khan]

Imran Khan is not a corrupt individual like Nawaz Sharif or Zardari, let us make that clear. That alone makes him the ideal choice. You cannot have thieves guarding the vault can you now?

Pakistan over every single individual indeed, I agree. However Pakistan is not going to run itself is it? Pakistan is a name given to a small piece of land, defined by invisible lines called borders. However, to make Pakistan function and progress you need honest and visionary leaders.

Unfortunately visionaries we don't have at the moment, However we have a honest leader so I guess that's a good start isn't it?

abay chup kur.. what do you know about politics in Pakistan? and change? change for most Pakistanis involves getting a new mobile phone or eating a chappal kabab instead of a burger. You Imran supporters are just a cult that must be "eradicated" as per the great maulana fazl-ur-rehmans amazing speech. The sharifs need space to create a new prosperous Pakistan where Hamza rules Punjab, bilawal rules Sindh, the achakzai clan sells off KPK, and the sardars rule balochistan. A incompetent politician like Imran just doesn't understand that this country was created for the feudal lords and their successors, not aa admi like you. Your job is simply to toil everyday, earn a meagre living and pray your not run over by an overpaid politician or crook driving a fancy foreign car or by the metro bus.

Pakistan is a great country. A great country if you earn in pounds or dollars, or if you are an elite. The people want change, a change to their mobile phone cases, tv drama's and ary chat shows. Not theis change that Imran is talking about. That's just for other people.

 

[Mamoon]

^ Its chapli kabab, not chapal kabab.

 

[Vegitto1]

Koi baat nahi, once IK is PM, we won't need any Chinese money. Inshallah, Allah will rain down manna from the sky and oil will spontaneously burst out of every open field in Pakistan. We will be rewarded handsomely for this revolution. Inshallah!


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Are you that bothered that $35 billion might not make its way to a swiss account in the future lol? hahaha I really find it funny how people are fuming at the Chinese President not visiting.

Oh and you said "hopefully in 10 years time PTI will be like PPP and PMLN" - to which I have to say " Shakal achi na ho tu baat tu achi ker diya karo" (It's a saying - I am sure you are good-looking and all)

 

[shakil]

^ Billawal Zardari also represent a change (Being the son of devil is no sin on its own). hehe

 

[Vegitto1]

^ Its chapli kabab, not chapal kabab.

Ap tu sirf Chapal Khate hain lol (Joke - I am very happy at the cancellation of Chinese visit lol)

 

[Mamoon]

Pakistan was also not made for people to show online patriotism from their comfortable homes in the UK.

 

[Mamoon]

Yeah and the cancellation of that visit is the Federal Government's fault right?

Aap ki azmat ko mera salam.

 

[Mamoon]

Do you have actually any idea about the financial loss that has been incurred by the Chinese President refusing to visit amid this turmoil?

 

[the Great Khan]

Dont be so over- dramatic bro.
Leaders are not born out of nothing, they are nourished by the systems in place.
Zia destroyed Pakistan's systems which were far superior to India,

Zia has been dead for nearly 30 years. There were ample opportunities to implement nation changing reforms on the grassroots level through simple steps. Both the PPP and PML have failed to do so. Expecting them to do so again is the definition of insanity.

IK is trying to do is undermine any essence of democracy by trying to proclaiming to be champion of democracy.

No he's trying to preserve whats left of it. What you call democracy isn't a democracy. Its barely a democracy.
All IK is asking for are meaningful reforms to level the playing field.

It doesn't work that way. You have to respect the laws you have, if you dont like, then grow yourself(which he did) but powerful enough to improve the laws.

Laws are useless if those that create them don't follow them. laws are not the problem, their enforcement is. A law is only as good as the LEA that is tasked to enforce them. We have failed in over 30 years to ensure that this was the case.


This is Riot threat is anarchy, Real life is not a movie "V for Vendetta"

it is merely political rhetoric. The reality is the current govt has failed to handle a protest, a simple protest. It has dragged on beyond what was necessary. That shows incompetence, arrogance and a lack of vision

Country is a huge huge engine, you cant just kick it and expect it to become smooth running in one go.

Agreed. But if the engine gets clogged up you take it to a mechanic who analyses the areas that need repair and then repairs it. He doesn't leave it chugging along hoping it fixes itself.


This protest is an easy precedent for those who oppose IK, if he comes to power and tries to make changes.
Whats to prevent a few privileged to do the same (A few hundred thousand protesters can be gathered easily, remember Sharif and Bhuttos get voted by millions still)

Yes but I cant see them sitting for 21 days, Nawaz cant sit in parliament for a few hours. They will stay there for a day or so max and then their business interests will demand their attention. They are incapable of doing anything like this. Yes what they can do is strikes, paya jams and fasaad. If that happens then they will have to be dealt with by the law. Which will be independent of any political interference.

regards

 

[the Great Khan]

when online patriots have parents who are living in that country they have a right to their opinion.

 

[Vegitto1]

Dont be so over- dramatic bro.
Leaders are not born out of nothing, they are nourished by the systems in place.
Zia destroyed Pakistan's systems which were far superior to India,
IK is trying to do is undermine any essence of democracy by trying to proclaiming to be champion of democracy.
It doesn't work that way. You have to respect the laws you have, if you dont like, then grow yourself(which he did) but powerful enough to improve the laws.

This is Riot threat is anarchy, Real life is not a movie "V for Vendetta"
Country is a huge huge engine, you cant just kick it and expect it to become smooth running in one go.

This protest is an easy precedent for those who oppose IK, if he comes to power and tries to make changes.
Whats to prevent a few privileged to do the same (A few hundred thousand protesters can be gathered easily, remember Sharif and Bhuttos get voted by millions still)

Zia destroyed the system because our politicians didn't have the courage to take a stand.

There was Benazir but she gave in to the Establishment. Then there was Murtaza Bhutto, now he was his fathers son. Had he been PPP leader things would have been a lot different. However, his own brother-in-law and sister had him killed.

And since then - no one has come forward except Imran Khan. Only downside with Imran Khan is that he is not a politician but he is very patriotic and sincerely wants to make things better in Pakistan and that is what we need right now. not this broken system.

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And I have already addressed this lame argument of "precedent being set" - read up and you will realise Imran Khan has exhausted all avenues before taking to the street. If Imran Khan's government is so stubborn as to not listen to genuine grievances of opposition then it should be thrown out too!

 

[the Great Khan]

Do you have actually any idea about the financial loss that has been incurred by the Chinese President refusing to visit amid this turmoil?

blame the govt not the protestors, they are responsible. Its been nearly a month and they have done nothing to try and solve this issue. aik FIR nahin kaat saktay and your worried about Chinese millions. A word of advice that money will be coming into the paksitan economy, its not going anywhere, China has a strategic stake in our country.

 

[Mamoon]

Koi baat nahi, once IK is PM, we won't need any Chinese money. Inshallah, Allah will rain down manna from the sky and oil will spontaneously burst out of every open field in Pakistan. We will be rewarded handsomely for this revolution. Inshallah!


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That's the biggest tragedy. These people believe that Imran Dumbledore Khan will cast a spell and all the problems (financial, economic, security, resources etc) will be solved and this country will become a superpower.

 

[Mamoon]

Online patriots will return to Pakistan once Imran becomes PM, I'm sure of it because they only thing that is stopping them from providing service here is the corrupt government.

 

[Mamoon]

LMAO. What should the government do? resign just because a few thousand mobs wants them to?

Usurping the government is never the solution. One day, another power hungry pseudo-revolutionist will come and overthrow Imran.

 

[Vegitto1]

If you think about it, had the PM authorised the Supreme Court Commission - then we would be getting the results in a couple of days lol. He wouldn't need to resign then.

What a thick coconut! our PM is. Embarrassing really.

 

[Vegitto1]

LMAO. What should the government do? resign just because a few thousand mobs wants them to?

Usurping the government is never the solution. One day, another power hungry pseudo-revolutionist will come and overthrow Imran.

Government is a beneficiary of a rigged election. On moral grounds it should resign. If someone robs a bank and leaves the money with you won't you return it? or will you say it's yours to keep?

Or are we establishing today that there will be no room for morality in Pakistani politics?

 

[Mamoon]

What a great country Pakistan is, a barrister in Lahore High Court is calling the Prime Minister of the country a thick coconut.

 

[Mamoon]

What I'm establishing is that khuda ke waastay, kabhi to elected hakoomat ko tenure poora karnay ki ijazat de diya karo. Zardari notwithstanding.

 

[zimmz]

So Hashmi made 25 phone calls to Saad Rafiq in 21 days prior to his PC against IK. The plot thickens...

 

[Mamoon]

Things were finally started to look better on the TTP front and this dharna has pushed as back multiple years.

 

[the Great Khan]

That's the biggest tragedy. These people believe that Imran Dumbledore Khan will cast a spell and all the problems (financial, economic, security, resources etc) will be solved and this country will become a superpower.

if anyone believes that their stupid. Your patronising attitude is pathetic. Cmon then you tell me what your solution is. Be a man and man up or are you too afraid like your friend mr no position baba?

 

[the Great Khan]

What a great country Pakistan is, a barrister in Lahore High Court is calling the Prime Minister of the country a thick coconut.

while a nobody from KP calls everyone else thick coconuts, whats your point. This is an open forum and he is entitled to his opinion or do you not believe in that?

 

[saadibaba]

What a great country Pakistan is, a barrister in Lahore High Court is calling the Prime Minister of the country a thick coconut.

I would have gone for a soft potato. Even a thick coconut has more redeeming qualities than Mian Sb.

 

[the Great Khan]

the elections sent us back to 1990, the dharna has moved it a little bit, we're still in 1990. IJI zindaabaad. KHugoo sharif zindabaad.

 

[saadibaba]

So Hashmi made 25 phone calls to Saad Rafiq in 21 days prior to his PC against IK. The plot thickens...

Hashmi was a NS spy in PTI all along and was staying in PTI for this long for this exact same reason. John Le Carre would be proud of our politicians.

 

[anakin]

the elections sent us back to 1990, the dharna has moved it a little bit, we're still in 1990. IJI zindaabaad. KHugoo sharif zindabaad.

The Election sent u back to 1990!!
First time in history a, stable change of democratic government...
that was a giant leap for Pakistan
these demonstration have sent u back.

Imran Khan needs to learn from his cricket, Afridi is not going to win you Big championships in the long run

 

[the Great Khan]

Hashmi was a NS spy in PTI all along and was staying in PTI for this long for this exact same reason. John Le Carre would be proud of our politicians.

I think you've finally found your calling, perhaps a novel with hashmi as the star?

 

[Mamoon]

while a nobody from KP calls everyone else thick coconuts, whats your point. This is an open forum and he is entitled to his opinion or do you not believe in that?

Whom are you referring to?

For me, the position of PM holds tremendous value and commands respect. As an educated citizen of Pakistan, I will not use such terms.

 

[Vegitto1]

Lol [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] him being a PM might be a big thing for you but as our Representative, if he fails at his job he will be criticised. We employ him and not the other way around. Our taxes pay for his luxuries not the other way around. My clients are entitled to criticise me when I fail to adequately represent them in court and I am more qualified than our PM.

In UK, one of the best examples of democracy, the Prime Minister gets egged in public! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8634952.stm

Once you learn that, you will be one step closer to breaking the shackles of slavery.

 

[the Great Khan]

The Election sent u back to 1990!!
First time in history a, stable change of democratic government...
that was a giant leap for Pakistan
these demonstration have sent u back.

Imran Khan needs to learn from his cricket, Afridi is not going to win you Big championships in the long run

oh grow up for goodness sake, stability? what stability. The damned election was rigged so shouldn't the govt initiate an enquiry into said rigging? what good is stability f the rule of law is ignored? it is no different to dictatorship. that brought stability too.

if youw ant stability as general shareef to take over. they are a very stable organisation. we are looking for viability as well as stability.

 

[Mamoon]

if anyone believes that their stupid. Your patronising attitude is pathetic. Cmon then you tell me what your solution is. Be a man and man up or are you too afraid like your friend mr no position baba?

Their is no solution anymore, things have gone from worse to horrible. I don't see how Pakistan can emerge unscathed from this revolution.

I'm fine thanks. You continue with your dharna will I am okay with my paisha as an armchair critic.

 

[the Great Khan]

Whom are you referring to?

For me, the position of PM holds tremendous value and commands respect. As an educated citizen of Pakistan, I will not use such terms.

then learn the first rule of a democracy, freedom of speech. The pm is your naukar, and you can call him what you want. You pay for him to do his job. In an ideal world he should be calling you sir.

 

[Kianig89]

No justice for the model town casualties

 

[the Great Khan]

Their is no solution anymore, things have gone from worse to horrible. I don't see how Pakistan can emerge unscathed from this revolution.

I'm fine thanks. You continue with your dharna will I am okay with my paisha as an armchair critic.

good finally, thanks for your hopeless vision for the nation. By the way when are you going to throw yourself off a cliff and be done with it?

 

[saadibaba]

I think you've finally found your calling, perhaps a novel with hashmi as the star?

Haha, great idea!

 

[Vegitto1]

Whom are you referring to?

For me, the position of PM holds tremendous value and commands respect. As an educated citizen of Pakistan, I will not use such terms.

In UK, one of the best examples of democracy, the Prime Minister gets egged in public! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politi...10/8634952.stm

Think of him as just an ordinary Pakistani whose job is to represent us and then you will realise what a third class representative we have. he deserves rotten eggs!

 

[Mamoon]

If he fails at his job......

First let him to do his job before forcing him to resign because he got cheated for the job.

One question: If all the lotas in PTI can change, why not Nawaz?

If you say people can change (which they don't, trust me) to justify PTI's hiring of crooks, why limit that change to PTI only? why can't people from other parties change too?

Or does change mean throwing all eggs in Imran's basket and going throw the purification process of his baptism?

 

[anakin]

good finally, thanks for your hopeless vision for the nation. By the way when are you going to throw yourself off a cliff and be done with it?

[MENTION=4542]MO[/MENTION]ds: and I get infraction points for far less.. Where is the justice??

 

[the Great Khan]

If he fails at his job......

First let him to do his job before forcing him to resign because he got cheated for the job.

One question: If all the lotas in PTI can change, why not Nawaz?

If you say people can change (which they don't, trust me) to justify PTI's hiring of crooks, why limit that change to PTI only? why can't people from other parties change too?

Or does change mean throwing all eggs in Imran's basket and going throw the purification process of his baptism?

he failed before he started. that's the point. He cheated and stole and broke the law hence he must either run the election again or let someone else run it. You cannot let a system run that will come to a juddering halt if left to its own devices.

 

[Mamoon]

He maybe an ordinary individual, but he doesn't have an ordinary occupation. He is the head of state for crying out loud.

Lol, you want people to throw eggs on their faces? what's with you and your aggressive thirst for violence?

You should join bhai.

 

[the Great Khan]

[MENTION=4542]MO[/MENTION]ds: and I get infraction points for far less.. Where is the justice??

stop crying I was being sarcastic as he said he had lost all hope. Despair is Haraam in Islam and losing hope is not an option

 

[Mamoon]

he failed before he started. that's the point. He cheated and stole and broke the law hence he must either run the election again or let someone else run it. You cannot let a system run that will come to a juddering halt if left to its own devices.

What about the PTI MNA who was caught rigging in Karachi? PTI should have started by resigning in KPK and then asking Nawaz to resign.

They did think of resigning but realized soon enough that it wasn't worth it so why should Nawaz resign?

 

[the Great Khan]

He maybe an ordinary individual, but he doesn't have an ordinary occupation. He is the head of state for crying out loud.

Lol, you want people to throw eggs on their faces? what's with you and your aggressive thirst for violence?

You should join bhai.

granted but when the position emans diddly squat due to the individuals actions he is open to every criticism including the odd egg. That is democracy. Just refer to the Scottish referendum debate. No candidate have routinely been egged and harassed but they have not called on their private police force to kill the eggers!

 

[the Great Khan]

What about the PTI MNA who was caught rigging in Karachi? PTI should have started by resigning in KPK and then asking Nawaz to resign.

They did think of resigning but realized soon enough that it wasn't worth it so why should Nawaz resign?

if he was caught he should face justice and resign. It applies to everyone. Rigging cannot be tolerated.

 

[Mamoon]

Honestly, Nawaz would much prefer getting his face egged and niharied rather than being held for ransom in this fashion.

 

[UsmanhailsAfridi]

He maybe an ordinary individual, but he doesn't have an ordinary occupation. He is the head of state for crying out loud.

Lol, you want people to throw eggs on their faces? what's with you and your aggressive thirst for violence?

You should join bhai.

oh bhai think for a sec...this head of state is convicted felon...have some respect for the seat of the PM for God Sake...this guy represents your country...and he is a habitual crook