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Been wondering the same for months. On one hand it's great if a sub-continental corrupt government is booted out in this fashion, but on the other this particular dharna seems to have generated little to that effect at all, and it's over 3 months since its inception.
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PML N ministers and members showing videos of Imran's property to media now they must get ready when Nawaz's property is shown on Live Telly #mayfair blacksea co. sugar mills and Jatti-Umra
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Too bad, an elderly comes visit him and he doesnt even get up. Where are the manners, or may be he didnt think she was too older than him to give that respect.
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So what's happening...haven't seen much enthusiasm over the Nov 30th deadline jalsa by the usual PTI supporters on this forum. Looks like its PTI and IK all alone this time which in a way is good so no one can accuse the hidden establishment hand behind all of it. What will be the demands this time, resignation of PM, opening of certain constituencies where alleged rigging took place, mid term elections or something else. I hope it's something realistic and achievable this time around and hopefully the govt. can agree to those demands so we can finally move on. Enough of this dharna's, jalsas, deadlines after deadlines. It's become stale and repetitive. A good example of that is how this thread has fizzled out with time.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>TV screens in Pk this Sunday morning mostly showing preparations for PTI's Isbd jalsa PLUS govt-sponsored 'paid content' 2 discredit IK</p>— Nasim Zehra (@NasimZehra) <a href="https://twitter.com/NasimZehra/status/538908290986438656">November 30, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>In Pk political contestants repeatedly turn 2 'paid content' on tv 2 malign opponents- imp qn is who will pay 4 govt sponsored 'paid content</p>— Nasim Zehra (@NasimZehra) <a href="https://twitter.com/NasimZehra/status/538910355377123328">November 30, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Such a massive adv campgn by PMLN Govt befr 30th rally. Shdnt b on tax payrs money.Gvt shd make sure publc knws the source funds used fr ths</p>— shahzeb khanzada (@shahzebkhanzda) <a href="https://twitter.com/shahzebkhanzda/status/538756446289014785">November 29, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Such a massive adv campgn by PMLN Govt befr 30th rally. Shdnt b on tax payrs money.Gvt shd make sure publc knws the source funds used fr ths</p>— shahzeb khanzada (@shahzebkhanzda) <a href="https://twitter.com/shahzebkhanzda/status/538756446289014785">November 29, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Over 1.5m votes rejected in 2013 polls
ISLAMABAD: Over 1.5 million votes were rejected in the 2013 general elections, far more than the number of ballots rejected in the 2002 and 2008 elections, according to an internal Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) document.
The document, available with Dawn, details the number of votes rejected in each of the 266 constituencies. Political analysts say that this is the highest ever number of votes rejected during any electoral process in the country’s history.
According to the document, there were 13 National Assembly constituencies where over 10,000 votes were rejected, while 150 constituencies saw anywhere between five and ten thousand votes rejected. Six of the 13 constituencies where over 10,000 votes were rejected are in Sindh, five in Punjab and one each in Balochistan and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
ECP document reveals number is higher than previous elections
The highest number of rejected ballots (25,562) was recorded in Balochistan’s NA-266 (Nasirabad-cum-Jaffarabad), where former prime minister Zafarullah Khan Jamali –contesting as an independent candidate – had defeated the independent Mir Saleem Ahmad Khosa by a margin of 5,861 votes. This was one of the constituencies linked with the allegations of “35 punctures” levelled by the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) against the ruling party.
According to the document, the number of rejected votes in the constituency in 2008 and 2002 general elections was 6,314 and 6,635, respectively.
In NA-221 Hyderabad-III, 24,516 votes were rejected. This number was 1,492 in 2008 and 1,466 in 2002. The seat was won by Amir Ali Shah Jamote of the PPP.
In NA-175 Rajanpur-II, Punjab, where PML-N’s Hafeezur Rahman Khan emerged victorious, 14,058 ballots were rejected. This number was 5,573 in 2008 and 3,504 in 2002.
In NA-244 Karachi-VI, won by Sheikh Sallahuddin, as many as 13,905 ballots were rejected as compared to 1,492 and 27 in 2008 and 2002, respectively.
In NA-245 Karachi-VII, won by the MQM’s Rehan Hashmi, 12,006 votes were rejected. The number was just 841 in 2008 and 1,106 in 2002.
In NA-246 Karachi-VIII, where Nabeel Gabol emerged victorious on an MQM ticket, 15,946 votes were rejected in 2013. In 2008, the number was 1,281 and a mere 837 in 2002.
Similarly, in NA-253 Karachi-XV, claimed by another MQM leader, Muzammil Qureshi, the number of rejected votes was 10,956 as against 2,744 and 1,101 in 2008 and 2002, respectively.
In NA-73 Bhakkar-II, where another PML-N candidate Abdul Majeed Khan emerged victorious, a total of 13,256 votes were rejected in 2013, as against 6,317 in 2008 and 3,800 in 2002.
In NA-78 Faisalabad-IV, the total number of rejected ballot papers was 12,488. In 2008 and 2002, just over 5,000 votes each were rejected in this constituency.
NA-74 Bhakkar-II, won by independent candidate Muhammad Afzal Dhandla, the number of rejected votes in 2013 was 12,216. The number was 6,885 in 2008 and 3,539 in 2002 elections.
In NA-227 Mirpurkhas-cum-Umerkot II, 10,549 votes were rejected in 2013. The seat was won by Mir Munawar Talpur – brother in law of former president Asif Ali Zardari.
In NA-24 DI Khan claimed by JUI-F chief Maulana Fazlur Rahman, the number of rejected votes in the last general elections rose to over 10,500. In past elections, the numbers were 4,287 and 2,445.
In NA-174 Rajanpur-I, where Sardar Jaffar Khan Leghari of the PML-N was the returned candidate, the number of rejected votes stood at 10,187, with just over 5,000 votes rejected in 2008 and a little over 3,000 rejected in 2002.
The document, however, clearly shows that the ruling PML-N was not the only beneficiary in the 35 constituencies where the margin of victory was less than the number of rejected votes and over a dozen political parties had won elections in these constituencies.
The PML-N won 12 of these, while seven went to independent candidates, followed by four secured by the PPP and two by the JUI-F.
The PTI, QWP, ANP, APML, JI, PML-Q, NPP, PML-D, PKMAP and BNP also clinched one seat each in these constituencies.
Published in Dawn, November 30th, 2014
Link: http://www.dawn.com/news/1147836/over-15m-votes-rejected-in-2013-polls
ISLAMABAD: Over 1.5 million votes were rejected in the 2013 general elections, far more than the number of ballots rejected in the 2002 and 2008 elections, according to an internal Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) document.
The document, available with Dawn, details the number of votes rejected in each of the 266 constituencies. Political analysts say that this is the highest ever number of votes rejected during any electoral process in the country’s history.
According to the document, there were 13 National Assembly constituencies where over 10,000 votes were rejected, while 150 constituencies saw anywhere between five and ten thousand votes rejected. Six of the 13 constituencies where over 10,000 votes were rejected are in Sindh, five in Punjab and one each in Balochistan and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.
ECP document reveals number is higher than previous elections
The highest number of rejected ballots (25,562) was recorded in Balochistan’s NA-266 (Nasirabad-cum-Jaffarabad), where former prime minister Zafarullah Khan Jamali –contesting as an independent candidate – had defeated the independent Mir Saleem Ahmad Khosa by a margin of 5,861 votes. This was one of the constituencies linked with the allegations of “35 punctures” levelled by the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) against the ruling party.
According to the document, the number of rejected votes in the constituency in 2008 and 2002 general elections was 6,314 and 6,635, respectively.
In NA-221 Hyderabad-III, 24,516 votes were rejected. This number was 1,492 in 2008 and 1,466 in 2002. The seat was won by Amir Ali Shah Jamote of the PPP.
In NA-175 Rajanpur-II, Punjab, where PML-N’s Hafeezur Rahman Khan emerged victorious, 14,058 ballots were rejected. This number was 5,573 in 2008 and 3,504 in 2002.
In NA-244 Karachi-VI, won by Sheikh Sallahuddin, as many as 13,905 ballots were rejected as compared to 1,492 and 27 in 2008 and 2002, respectively.
In NA-245 Karachi-VII, won by the MQM’s Rehan Hashmi, 12,006 votes were rejected. The number was just 841 in 2008 and 1,106 in 2002.
In NA-246 Karachi-VIII, where Nabeel Gabol emerged victorious on an MQM ticket, 15,946 votes were rejected in 2013. In 2008, the number was 1,281 and a mere 837 in 2002.
Similarly, in NA-253 Karachi-XV, claimed by another MQM leader, Muzammil Qureshi, the number of rejected votes was 10,956 as against 2,744 and 1,101 in 2008 and 2002, respectively.
In NA-73 Bhakkar-II, where another PML-N candidate Abdul Majeed Khan emerged victorious, a total of 13,256 votes were rejected in 2013, as against 6,317 in 2008 and 3,800 in 2002.
In NA-78 Faisalabad-IV, the total number of rejected ballot papers was 12,488. In 2008 and 2002, just over 5,000 votes each were rejected in this constituency.
NA-74 Bhakkar-II, won by independent candidate Muhammad Afzal Dhandla, the number of rejected votes in 2013 was 12,216. The number was 6,885 in 2008 and 3,539 in 2002 elections.
In NA-227 Mirpurkhas-cum-Umerkot II, 10,549 votes were rejected in 2013. The seat was won by Mir Munawar Talpur – brother in law of former president Asif Ali Zardari.
In NA-24 DI Khan claimed by JUI-F chief Maulana Fazlur Rahman, the number of rejected votes in the last general elections rose to over 10,500. In past elections, the numbers were 4,287 and 2,445.
In NA-174 Rajanpur-I, where Sardar Jaffar Khan Leghari of the PML-N was the returned candidate, the number of rejected votes stood at 10,187, with just over 5,000 votes rejected in 2008 and a little over 3,000 rejected in 2002.
The document, however, clearly shows that the ruling PML-N was not the only beneficiary in the 35 constituencies where the margin of victory was less than the number of rejected votes and over a dozen political parties had won elections in these constituencies.
The PML-N won 12 of these, while seven went to independent candidates, followed by four secured by the PPP and two by the JUI-F.
The PTI, QWP, ANP, APML, JI, PML-Q, NPP, PML-D, PKMAP and BNP also clinched one seat each in these constituencies.
Published in Dawn, November 30th, 2014
Link: http://www.dawn.com/news/1147836/over-15m-votes-rejected-in-2013-polls
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Nawaz Sharif, in a state of utter panic, is spending Rs 3 crore a day of taxpayers' money on ads against me. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BarhoKManzilQareebHai?src=hash">#BarhoKManzilQareebHai</a></p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/538926378331422722">November 30, 2014</a></blockquote>
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N government is not going to last 5 years anyway unless Imran Khan wants because army will not stick its nose in this matter. Nawaz will probably do something stupid under panic.
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What time is the march today? Also IK is supposed to come up with plan 'C' today. Any idea what that is?
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He is too shrewd for that IMO
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Nawaz? Well time will tell but Imran Khan has certainly made Pakistani politics more interesting, just like Pakistani cricket. Can't wait to Nawaz's next chaal.
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Yes. He might be a pathetic politician and administrator but there is a reason he has survived so long, so many coups and still made a come back. His survival instincts are strong
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Government spent 10 crore rupees on advertisements against PTI last night :- Arshad Sharif
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Pathetic politician? What is the definition of a 'good' politician?
Who actually does justice to his role when elected? Though I know the general meaning is someone who succeeds in politics
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How can this govt be pulled out ? Pls let me know.
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So its like a big surprise what will he come up with today?
More than half the day has passed and yet no clue why IK had called people on this date.
Is it going to be just a bigger jalsa or some action will be taken?
I hope he isnt planning for a parallel govt as plan C.
More than half the day has passed and yet no clue why IK had called people on this date.
Is it going to be just a bigger jalsa or some action will be taken?
I hope he isnt planning for a parallel govt as plan C.
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When has he not done justice? Things are improving in KPK.
And at the same time he is looking for justice against the rigging that took place in the previous elections.
I don't know how he qualifies as a 'pathetic' politician, maybe politics wise Nawaz and Shabash Sharif are much better politicians then?
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I was talking about Sharif
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Winds of change: MQM warms up to ruling PML-N!
KARACHI: Weeks after walking out on its alliance with Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP), the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) has developed a strong working relationship with the ruling Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz and could join the federal cabinet in the coming days.
According to sources, the two parties have almost ironed out all issues between them. And by next early month, the MQM could become part of the federal government, the sources added.
Leaders of the MQM, however, did not confirm whether their party would ultimately become part of the federal government. They admitted that their party had developed better relations with the PML-N, as the ruling party had agreed to release development funds for projects in Karachi.
Last month, when MQM leader Khalid Maqbool Siddiqui met Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, he raised the issue of unfinished developmental projects in Karachi including the Lyari Expressway, and demanded that the premier take necessary action.
One party leader said that the MQM wants to work with the PML-N on a long term basis. “MQM may or may not be part of the federal government. Even if we don’t become part of the federal government, we will continue to work with the PML-N.”
Saying no to the Sindh govt
The MQM has dismissed speculation that it would be joining the PPP-led government in Sindh, saying that it could not even think of getting back with them.
This has not stopped the PPP from trying to bring the two parties on the same page again. Both PPP co-chairman Asif Ali Zardari and his party colleague Rehman Malik have been holding talks with Sindh Governor Ishratul Ebad in a bid to win over the MQM. Yet the MQM says it will not consider becoming a part of the Sindh government again.
“The last time the MQM joined the Sindh government was based on a decision taken by the Rabita Committee and not by the MQM chief Altaf Hussain, who was displeased over it. This time if the Rabita Committee takes this decision, there will be a lot of resistance and opposition from within the party.”
The MQM leader said that since the party has left the provincial government, it has gotten a lot of public support and its disgruntled voters and supporters are returning to the party.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/797358/winds-of-change-mqm-warms-up-to-ruling-pml-n/
^ You literally can never trust MQM.
KARACHI: Weeks after walking out on its alliance with Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP), the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) has developed a strong working relationship with the ruling Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz and could join the federal cabinet in the coming days.
According to sources, the two parties have almost ironed out all issues between them. And by next early month, the MQM could become part of the federal government, the sources added.
Leaders of the MQM, however, did not confirm whether their party would ultimately become part of the federal government. They admitted that their party had developed better relations with the PML-N, as the ruling party had agreed to release development funds for projects in Karachi.
Last month, when MQM leader Khalid Maqbool Siddiqui met Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, he raised the issue of unfinished developmental projects in Karachi including the Lyari Expressway, and demanded that the premier take necessary action.
One party leader said that the MQM wants to work with the PML-N on a long term basis. “MQM may or may not be part of the federal government. Even if we don’t become part of the federal government, we will continue to work with the PML-N.”
Saying no to the Sindh govt
The MQM has dismissed speculation that it would be joining the PPP-led government in Sindh, saying that it could not even think of getting back with them.
This has not stopped the PPP from trying to bring the two parties on the same page again. Both PPP co-chairman Asif Ali Zardari and his party colleague Rehman Malik have been holding talks with Sindh Governor Ishratul Ebad in a bid to win over the MQM. Yet the MQM says it will not consider becoming a part of the Sindh government again.
“The last time the MQM joined the Sindh government was based on a decision taken by the Rabita Committee and not by the MQM chief Altaf Hussain, who was displeased over it. This time if the Rabita Committee takes this decision, there will be a lot of resistance and opposition from within the party.”
The MQM leader said that since the party has left the provincial government, it has gotten a lot of public support and its disgruntled voters and supporters are returning to the party.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/797358/winds-of-change-mqm-warms-up-to-ruling-pml-n/
^ You literally can never trust MQM.
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PTI’s latest plans will die a natural death: PM
LAHORE / ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on Sunday advised Imran Khan’s Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) to abandon its campaign of sit-ins and invited it to the negotiating table following the rejection of this brand of politics by an overwhelming majority of Pakistanis.
The remarks came during a meeting with Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif.
According to sources, PM Nawaz said Imran’s party will have “to give up the dharna (sit-in) on the roads and come and sit across the negotiating table”.
“The container group’s plan C and plan D will also fail like A and B and die their own death,” the PM said during a discussion on the national political situation with his younger brother at their Jati Umra residence in Raiwind.
He claimed that some elements were hatching conspiracies against the elected government. But he said forces working on an anti- democracy and anti-constitution agenda have been exposed before the people, according to sources.
If PTI supporters are so concerned about the plight of the masses, they should raise these issues in parliament, the prime minister said.
During the meeting, issues relating to national politics, economy, PTI agitation and its impact, development schemes in Punjab and other matters of importance were discussed.
The Punjab chief minister said that the provincial government has eased the conditions for acquiring loans under the self-employment scheme and extended the last date for applications.
PM Nawaz lauding the Punjab government schemes said that provincial government should facilitate the masses with regard to a record cut in fuel prices.
According to a news channel, the premier and Punjab CM also decided to resume talks with PTI. Shahbaz Sharif said that agitations and sit-ins will have to end and the protesting parties will have to come to the negotiating table. “The country cannot bear any more agitation and confrontation,” he said.
Call of concern
“How can we resume talks in this aggressive environment?” asked Federal Minister for Information, Broadcasting and National Heritage Pervaiz Rashid soon after the PTI chairman threatened to shut down all major cities if the government does not resolve the issue of polls fraud.
“Dialogue could not be resumed until [PTI chairman] Khan sahib gives up his anti-state conspiracy,” said the information minister.
“If PTI’s top leadership is really sincere about restarting negotiations, then first they will have to sit down in parliament,” he added.
“Imran Khan has consumed all options he is looking for a safe exit now,” he told The Express Tribune. Before coming to ‘Plan C’, the PTI should have to tell the people that ‘Plan A and B’ have been completely failed, argued the minister.
“How can the government allow Imran to shut down businesses in the major cities as the PTI has already paralysed business activities in Pakistan?” questioned the information minister. We cannot dictate the courts hearing PTI’s petition seeking probe into election fraud, he explained.
Judicial commission
Interestingly, SAFRON Minister Abdul Qadir Baloch told the media that the government was considering writing to the Supreme Court about forming a judicial commission. As the proposed judicial commission probes the rigging charges, he voiced hope that the PTI would accept the judicial commission inquiry report and avoid humiliating the judiciary, he added.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/799976/ptis-latest-plans-will-die-a-natural-death-pm/
LAHORE / ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on Sunday advised Imran Khan’s Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) to abandon its campaign of sit-ins and invited it to the negotiating table following the rejection of this brand of politics by an overwhelming majority of Pakistanis.
The remarks came during a meeting with Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif.
According to sources, PM Nawaz said Imran’s party will have “to give up the dharna (sit-in) on the roads and come and sit across the negotiating table”.
“The container group’s plan C and plan D will also fail like A and B and die their own death,” the PM said during a discussion on the national political situation with his younger brother at their Jati Umra residence in Raiwind.
He claimed that some elements were hatching conspiracies against the elected government. But he said forces working on an anti- democracy and anti-constitution agenda have been exposed before the people, according to sources.
If PTI supporters are so concerned about the plight of the masses, they should raise these issues in parliament, the prime minister said.
During the meeting, issues relating to national politics, economy, PTI agitation and its impact, development schemes in Punjab and other matters of importance were discussed.
The Punjab chief minister said that the provincial government has eased the conditions for acquiring loans under the self-employment scheme and extended the last date for applications.
PM Nawaz lauding the Punjab government schemes said that provincial government should facilitate the masses with regard to a record cut in fuel prices.
According to a news channel, the premier and Punjab CM also decided to resume talks with PTI. Shahbaz Sharif said that agitations and sit-ins will have to end and the protesting parties will have to come to the negotiating table. “The country cannot bear any more agitation and confrontation,” he said.
Call of concern
“How can we resume talks in this aggressive environment?” asked Federal Minister for Information, Broadcasting and National Heritage Pervaiz Rashid soon after the PTI chairman threatened to shut down all major cities if the government does not resolve the issue of polls fraud.
“Dialogue could not be resumed until [PTI chairman] Khan sahib gives up his anti-state conspiracy,” said the information minister.
“If PTI’s top leadership is really sincere about restarting negotiations, then first they will have to sit down in parliament,” he added.
“Imran Khan has consumed all options he is looking for a safe exit now,” he told The Express Tribune. Before coming to ‘Plan C’, the PTI should have to tell the people that ‘Plan A and B’ have been completely failed, argued the minister.
“How can the government allow Imran to shut down businesses in the major cities as the PTI has already paralysed business activities in Pakistan?” questioned the information minister. We cannot dictate the courts hearing PTI’s petition seeking probe into election fraud, he explained.
Judicial commission
Interestingly, SAFRON Minister Abdul Qadir Baloch told the media that the government was considering writing to the Supreme Court about forming a judicial commission. As the proposed judicial commission probes the rigging charges, he voiced hope that the PTI would accept the judicial commission inquiry report and avoid humiliating the judiciary, he added.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/799976/ptis-latest-plans-will-die-a-natural-death-pm/
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PMLN finally managed to assemble heavy mandate of people in Gujranwala against IK:
<iframe frameborder="0" width="480" height="270" src="//www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/x2bi4e2" allowfullscreen></iframe><br /><a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2bi4e2_ro-imran-ro-rally-in-gujranwala_news" target="_blank">'Ro Imran Ro' Rally in Gujranwala</a> <i>by <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/zemtv" target="_blank">zemtv</a></i>
^ Ro Imran Ro started as joke, but is finally becoming reality.
<iframe frameborder="0" width="480" height="270" src="//www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/x2bi4e2" allowfullscreen></iframe><br /><a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2bi4e2_ro-imran-ro-rally-in-gujranwala_news" target="_blank">'Ro Imran Ro' Rally in Gujranwala</a> <i>by <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/zemtv" target="_blank">zemtv</a></i>
^ Ro Imran Ro started as joke, but is finally becoming reality.
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Set this system on fire, demolish palaces: Sheikh Rasheed
ISLAMABAD (Dunya News) – Awami Muslim League (AML) chief Sheikh Rasheed on Sunday urged participants of the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) protest rally to burn the system and to demolish the ‘palaces’ of the rulers, Dunya News reported.
He urged the people to come out in support of Imran Khan.
Addressing the PTI protesters in an aggressive tone, AML chief said that the current system needs to be set to fire and to demolish the ‘palaces’ of the rulers.
Sheikh Rasheed also heavily criticized former president Asif Ali Zardari and Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam (JUI-F) chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman.
“If former president can be tried for high treason, why can’t Nawaz Sharif be arrested for forming government over rigged mandate?” he asked.
It merits mentioning here that Sheikh Rasheed has already been booked for inciting violence in PTI’s rally that took place in Nankana Sahib.
Sheikh Rasheed said he is a ‘suicidal politician’ and that he walks while carrying casket on his shoulders.
http://dunyanews.tv/index.php/en/Pakistan/247807-Set-this-system-on-fire-demolish-palaces-Sheikh-
ISLAMABAD (Dunya News) – Awami Muslim League (AML) chief Sheikh Rasheed on Sunday urged participants of the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) protest rally to burn the system and to demolish the ‘palaces’ of the rulers, Dunya News reported.
He urged the people to come out in support of Imran Khan.
Addressing the PTI protesters in an aggressive tone, AML chief said that the current system needs to be set to fire and to demolish the ‘palaces’ of the rulers.
Sheikh Rasheed also heavily criticized former president Asif Ali Zardari and Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam (JUI-F) chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman.
“If former president can be tried for high treason, why can’t Nawaz Sharif be arrested for forming government over rigged mandate?” he asked.
It merits mentioning here that Sheikh Rasheed has already been booked for inciting violence in PTI’s rally that took place in Nankana Sahib.
Sheikh Rasheed said he is a ‘suicidal politician’ and that he walks while carrying casket on his shoulders.
http://dunyanews.tv/index.php/en/Pakistan/247807-Set-this-system-on-fire-demolish-palaces-Sheikh-
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PMLN finally managed to assemble heavy mandate of people in Gujranwala against IK:
<iframe frameborder="0" width="480" height="270" src="//www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/x2bi4e2" allowfullscreen></iframe><br /><a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2bi4e2_ro-imran-ro-rally-in-gujranwala_news" target="_blank">'Ro Imran Ro' Rally in Gujranwala</a> <i>by <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/zemtv" target="_blank">zemtv</a></i>
^ Ro Imran Ro started as joke, but is finally becoming reality.
) at you fake reality. That looks like a mob of 20 people, shouting senselessly without any purpose. Only Nooras can take such things seriously.
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^ To be fair, Ro Imran Ro serves no purpose. This is supposed to be joke is turning out to be real. 
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^ To be fair, Ro Imran Ro serves no purpose. This is supposed to be joke is turning out to be real.
Yep, it must be a slow news day if the only to get to report is that nonsense.
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Say what you want, but i will leave that to you. Go back to usual gimmicks of Imranistan. 
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Say what you want, but i will leave that to you. Go back to usual gimmicks of Imranistan.
Like asking for fair elections? In reality those kind of gimmicks deserve an attention instead of this nonsense. But whatever, I am happy that N-Leaguers are wasting their time like this.
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After losing election? Why not. Considering rigging took place in great margin in the first election after Pervaiz Musharraf resigned didn't faze Imran Khan at all.
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Oh come on, Josh e Khatabat or we have already forgotten that?
But seriously, politicians need to be responsible and have to stop promoting violence. No matter what, Pakistan should stay away from any action that would cause deaths.
But seriously, politicians need to be responsible and have to stop promoting violence. No matter what, Pakistan should stay away from any action that would cause deaths.
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Haan perveiz rashid , sharif bradaran , hanif abbasi, mulana diesel, zardari ..in sab ko sab se pehle aag lagao
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Didn't he plan to trash up three cities?
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Go Nawaz Go is not a catchy slogan. They should have coined a real good slogan. If not then there are the old slogan templates like "Gali Gali mein shor hai, "insert the name" chor hai", or Tutak tutak tutiya, "insert the name and the complete the rhyme"
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PLMN at the moment has to be the most uncivilized party in the world. I bet none of these fat losers will get arressted for beating a peaceful protestor. Hopefully they will mess with a wrong guy, someday.
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A very interesting read
What is Polarization? I suspect most of you or perhaps most in Pakistan don't fully understand what it means. Polarization is when a society or polity splits in extreme ends, without a connecting middle ground. Pakistan today has become a very polarized polity between those who stand for change as epitomized by PTI and Imran Khan and those who are resisting the change as symbolized by PM Nawaz Sharif, PPP, Malana Fazal ur Rehman and allies. This is a dangerous situation for there is no middle ground left to mediate between these warring factions.
For supporters of Imran Khan all evil lies with Nawaz and allies and all propaganda machinery being controlled or financed by PMLN and allies continues to describe Imran Khan as a dangerous anarchist. PMLN controls govt and is backed by the power of the state and Washington, whereas PTI is without doubt riding on a wave of extraordinary popularity never since the days of ZA Bhutto.
Finding Solutions is always the responsibility of powerful side. In this case this means the govt controlled by PMLN has to find a political solution; unfortunately Nawaz govt does not exhibit any capability of finding a broad based solution. Nawaz Govt from day one is banking on the premise that since it controls lever of state power backed by Washington, sooner or later its opposition will exhaust itself and PMLN will be in a situation to either ignore them or negotiate a cheap deal without the need for any meaningful concessions. This is frightening and may prove disastrous for all sides. For much happens in life without any planning; this is called "Law of Unintended Consequences"
Earlier PM Nawaz Sharif took unwise decisions that lead to this polarization. Though Elections 2013 suffered from massive rigging, which was obvious from day one, but PTI which was the main target of this rigging in Punjab (given only 8 seats out of 148 directly contested) decided not to agitate but to broadly accept the results and to follow complaints through Election Tribunals which were never suited to address the kind of irregularities that were committed. An over-confident PM Nawaz picked up an unnecessary battle with the military over Musharraf trial, which now almost everyone in PMLN realizes to be a great blunder. (privately all PMLN leaders agree that this was a disaster). Musharraf trial was an absolute power grab and it became obvious to all that if PM Nawaz handcuffs ex-military chief then his power and fear will intimidate Generals, Opposition, Judiciary, media and corporate world.. and no one will be able or willing to challenge him...it was then that military stepped into the arena to confront Nawaz in a calculated manner but Nawaz Sharif's inability to grasp the limitations of his power soon kept on increasing the crisis between his govt and the intelligence community..that finally took an ugly turn with the confrontation between Geo and the military in which Nawaz govt decided to encourage and back GEO against military making it impossible for GEO to extricate itself from an unnecessary situation...this confrontation then sucked in country's politics and rest is history..
Why remember all this? because none of that was imagined by either side; all that happened was "Law of Unintended Consequences" - in which one thing lead to the other. Now as it is abundantly clear from Gen. Raheel Sharif's extended visit to the US that military has been able to establish their direct rapport with Washington and civil govt has lost much steam, but instead of understanding all this loss of power and relevance, simple minds in govt are still considering themselves very smart for not falling to Imran's dharnas. This childish thinking still continues; they are trying for total victory in situations that demand political compromises. If Nawaz govt continued to try for total victory over Imran and did not find political compromise then Law of Unintended Consequences may lead to greater shocks soon...if Nawaz Sharif and his kitchen cabinet ponders carefully they will realize that compromising with Imran Khan by making meaningful concessions is their best deal; without bringing Imran Khan and PTI as an empowered leader of the Opposition system cannot run and deliver; this is the minimum they ought to do to save the system and to make it legitimate; time is passing and the "Law of Unintended Consequences" is ticking like a time bomb...
A very interesting read
What is Polarization? I suspect most of you or perhaps most in Pakistan don't fully understand what it means. Polarization is when a society or polity splits in extreme ends, without a connecting middle ground. Pakistan today has become a very polarized polity between those who stand for change as epitomized by PTI and Imran Khan and those who are resisting the change as symbolized by PM Nawaz Sharif, PPP, Malana Fazal ur Rehman and allies. This is a dangerous situation for there is no middle ground left to mediate between these warring factions.
For supporters of Imran Khan all evil lies with Nawaz and allies and all propaganda machinery being controlled or financed by PMLN and allies continues to describe Imran Khan as a dangerous anarchist. PMLN controls govt and is backed by the power of the state and Washington, whereas PTI is without doubt riding on a wave of extraordinary popularity never since the days of ZA Bhutto.
Finding Solutions is always the responsibility of powerful side. In this case this means the govt controlled by PMLN has to find a political solution; unfortunately Nawaz govt does not exhibit any capability of finding a broad based solution. Nawaz Govt from day one is banking on the premise that since it controls lever of state power backed by Washington, sooner or later its opposition will exhaust itself and PMLN will be in a situation to either ignore them or negotiate a cheap deal without the need for any meaningful concessions. This is frightening and may prove disastrous for all sides. For much happens in life without any planning; this is called "Law of Unintended Consequences"
Earlier PM Nawaz Sharif took unwise decisions that lead to this polarization. Though Elections 2013 suffered from massive rigging, which was obvious from day one, but PTI which was the main target of this rigging in Punjab (given only 8 seats out of 148 directly contested) decided not to agitate but to broadly accept the results and to follow complaints through Election Tribunals which were never suited to address the kind of irregularities that were committed. An over-confident PM Nawaz picked up an unnecessary battle with the military over Musharraf trial, which now almost everyone in PMLN realizes to be a great blunder. (privately all PMLN leaders agree that this was a disaster). Musharraf trial was an absolute power grab and it became obvious to all that if PM Nawaz handcuffs ex-military chief then his power and fear will intimidate Generals, Opposition, Judiciary, media and corporate world.. and no one will be able or willing to challenge him...it was then that military stepped into the arena to confront Nawaz in a calculated manner but Nawaz Sharif's inability to grasp the limitations of his power soon kept on increasing the crisis between his govt and the intelligence community..that finally took an ugly turn with the confrontation between Geo and the military in which Nawaz govt decided to encourage and back GEO against military making it impossible for GEO to extricate itself from an unnecessary situation...this confrontation then sucked in country's politics and rest is history..
Why remember all this? because none of that was imagined by either side; all that happened was "Law of Unintended Consequences" - in which one thing lead to the other. Now as it is abundantly clear from Gen. Raheel Sharif's extended visit to the US that military has been able to establish their direct rapport with Washington and civil govt has lost much steam, but instead of understanding all this loss of power and relevance, simple minds in govt are still considering themselves very smart for not falling to Imran's dharnas. This childish thinking still continues; they are trying for total victory in situations that demand political compromises. If Nawaz govt continued to try for total victory over Imran and did not find political compromise then Law of Unintended Consequences may lead to greater shocks soon...if Nawaz Sharif and his kitchen cabinet ponders carefully they will realize that compromising with Imran Khan by making meaningful concessions is their best deal; without bringing Imran Khan and PTI as an empowered leader of the Opposition system cannot run and deliver; this is the minimum they ought to do to save the system and to make it legitimate; time is passing and the "Law of Unintended Consequences" is ticking like a time bomb...
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There will be some construction done at home today and one of the workers looks exactly like Khurram Dastgir Khan.
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^^^ Getting more messier.......... ^^^
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The antics have begun in Faisalabad. The usual mobbing - young kids with a chip in their hooligans and minimal penchant for nation-building mouthing a slogan IK taught them to suck on like no tomorrow whilst burning tyres and spreading anarchy.
How lovely.
How lovely.
^^^ Sad to see all the mess but i don't know why selective criticism? Nawaz Sharif trained Gullus have been attacking PTI supporters throughout the city. Special thug squads (some backed by police) have been attacking PTI supporters. No one is forcing people to close shops and businesses like we usually see in strikes and yet attacks from every corner.
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There is always two sides to every story and in Pakistan's case sides should be doubled the original amount. I am sure gullus provoked them and it would be unfair to say that now PTI supporters are not even allowed to defend themselves. I don't believe that IK thought to burn tires or be violent. People were doing these things before IK and hopefully after showing support for PTI, they will set up a good example.
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How lovely of the Noora thugs to shoot people in the presence of the Police. Personally I think the PTI is too nice and for every supporter hurt, they should selectively target the PML leadership.
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God, please. Stop glorifying these anarchic tendencies instilled and advocated by leaders who are not in the front line. Noora thugs are countering PTI hooligans, one provokes the other, both decide to go up and arms against each other and all this transpires. One is not better than the other.
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I would really like to know in which world (any country) a city can be shut down and nothing will happen from government or opposition supporters?
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My dear i hope you know that the backbone of Pakistan yes i am talking about Karachi is shutdown almost twice a month by MQM, PPP and other nationalist parties but govt don't take any action against them you know why? Because these parties run the Sindh and Karachi govt!
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its called a strike and civil disobedience, something that eventually lead to the independence of your own nation. I suggest you go back and do some reading about Pakistani politics. Your miles away from the basics.
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he don't know the ground realities of pakistan all he do is post against pti without knowing the actual ground realities here.
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just another "know it all" from there who thinks they know everything by frequenting a few forums. Naa agay ka pata na peechay ka!
also Its fascinating how these trolls will always take the default anti Pakistan position. pathetic.
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Since when is civil disobedience used against a government elected by the majority in their own country? Unless you are of the opinion (which not even most PTI fans use) that this government would not have got majority if not for rigging
Somehow you want to think that these problems and situations are unique to Pakistan. They are not. All democracies have gone through same problems. Untold corruption, rigging, power struggles. What is unique to Pakistan is that it is the only country where democracy was interrupted every few years and then people have to start again
Remember, the power of democracy and vote is not which government people vote in. But it is which government people vote out.. That is the power of vote. And unfortunately, in it's entire history, Pakistanis were allowed only to vote out ONE government. And even then it looks like, that won't be continued.
Totally agree with bold part
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Indian posters have a habit of talking down to their Pakistani counter parts about democracy. My advice , don't. you know nothing about the nature of what goes on in Pakistan when it comes to politics.
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Translation: Let's call anybody remotely posting against Pakistan an online troll.
Which [MENTION=3327]Indiafan[/MENTION] was not even doing, by the way.
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sorry but Indianfan is a known Pakistan hater. Any position contrary to the pro Pakistan position is his position.
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^ 62 year old Imran Khan was standing on the vehicle for his speech and when he was coming down after ending the speech 64 year old Sheikh Rasheed was trying to help him by giving his hand that was a moment to smile. He forgot Kaptaan is still active in gym even at this age so he can jump 
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