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Punjab Governer Salman Taseer Killed

insaftak said:
Pakistan would be a civilized country if these so called "leaders" start spending money on education and security of people instead of security for themselves. Who is to be blamed for Pakistan being an uncivilized country? The answer is ruling elite that provides no education, no healthcare, and no security to the people of pakistan.
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read my post again, then comment. i have edited, you are right until then they need all the security they can get or they will be killed. and it is a right thing to do untill we get rid of these fanatics.
 
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Inna Lillahi wainnah illaihi raajion

OMGG how did it happen, that is sad :(:(
 
Just found that he was nephew of faiz ahmed faiz through his wife. And his father was 1st phd holder in english in sub-continent.
 
PakistanPaindabad said:
Some brilliant posts you have made in this section, but I disagree with this one. MQM does have the street power, but they will never want rule of law. its like saying be careful what you wish for, you might actually get it..
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Well, first, nothing is permanent in politics.

Them wanting to or agreeing to join PTI would make them wanting rule of law a given. Without it, they can't join in the first place.

Unless, of course, you are mistaking my wishing for PTI and MQM coming to power together, with me wanting only MQM coming to power. Which is not true.
 
tahir_dj said:
Inna lillaahi wa inna ilaihi rajioon

But
Please at least dont call him Shaheed.
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But the man had his life taken away....that results in a guaranteed place in Jannat.

I dont know anything about Pakistan politics...but even i can see the country is in tatters.
 
Allah Tamam Siyatsatdano k Guards ko Himmat dey!

Ghareeb Awam roz mar rahey hain Kuch nahi ye Beghret Maarey gaye tu sab ko Afsoos hain :zardari
 
PPP will be in outcry.This guy is a crucial figure in the PPP.

The PML-N will breathe a HUGE sigh of relief as this man was a big obstacle in Punjab for the Sharifs.He was also instrumental in the Long March/Governor's Rule in Punjab saga.

Stupid excuse to kill him,those blasphemy laws need doing away with at once.It is an inhumane law that needs to be stricken from the record.Taseer is absolutely right in that.Why does the bodyguard have such strong political opinions anyway ? There really should be procedures in place for people like that.

Also goes to show how influential the religious,extremist elements are.

Hope the PPP don't beg for sympathy though and take advantage of this like they did with Benazir.Their reign in government is really weakening.

Coalition partners pulling out,Gilani facing no-confidence vote,Taseer assassination,increasing public anger,all we need now is for the Chief Justice and Supreme Court to open up those cases and start the impeachment proceedings.
 
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Wow, people everywhere are really loving it that he got killed for 'insulting Prophet Muhammad PBUH'. My first reaction is almost uncontrollable anger and disgust to this kind of an attitude from general public. But then again, sometimes I feel that mullah rule is this country's destiny. What would be interesting to see is, how these same people who can't stop being gleeful when this kind of thing happens will react when they actually are under mullah rule. I feel they have absolutely no clue what exactly they are all encouraging and asking for..
 
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No matter how much I try I cant be happy on anybodies death.
 
jaisa karo ga waisa baro ga ..i dont feel sorry for any of this corrupt politicians who have looted my country for ages ...every few day innocent kids die by "almighty" american drone attacks and no one gives a damn and we moan about this idiots who give green signal to this attacks
 
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Maula Jutt said:
Wow, people everywhere are really loving it that he got killed for 'insulting Prophet Muhammad PBUH. My first reaction is almost uncontrollable anger and disgust to this kind of an attitude from general public. But then again, sometimes I feel that mullah rule is this country's destiny. What would be interesting to see is, how these same people who can't stop being gleeful when this kind of thing happens will react when they actually are under mullah rule. I feel they have absolutely no clue what exactly they are all encouraging and asking for..
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And it is amazing how some of these people were asking for a ban on facebook in Pakistan for blasphemous content only a few months ago . Now they have created a fanpage on the same website for another fanatic and supporting him .
 
UmarAkmals-fan said:
jaisa karo ga waisa baro ga ..i dont feel sorry for all this corrupt politicians who ahve looted my country for ages ...every few day innocent kids die by "almighty" american drone attacks and no one gives a damn and we moan about this idiots who give green signal to this attacks
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I fully agree
 
Wow what terrible news.

Also this is very surreal.

Just this weekend - I think it was New Year's Day - a couple of friend's were talking about Salman Taseer. They both said they thought he'd get killed because he was ruffling too many feathers. And in three days what they predicted has happened. That's why I was absolutely stunned when I read the news.

I don't think the blasphemy issue has anything to do with it, it's a convenient ruse. This murder is politically motivated.

The fact that this can happen to someone with that level of protocol in broad daylight, really says a lot about the law and order situation in the country.

For the people rejoicing over his death, may Allah guide them.

Having said that, I compare it to my reaction when I hear of a Taliban leader's death. While I don't go and start a Facebook page to celebrate their murderers, in a way maybe I'm no different.
 
Looney said:
And it is amazing how some of these people were asking for a ban on facebook in Pakistan for blasphemous content only a few months ago . Now they have created a fanpage on the same website for another fanatic and supporting him .
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Hypocrisy runs in this nation's blood :27:

As I said, it angers and disgusts me. But after I'm done with that, I actually feel sorry for this country's people. They themselves have no idea of what they're asking for.
 
Maula Jutt said:
Hypocrisy runs in this nation's blood :27:

As I said, it angers and disgusts me. But after I'm done with that, I actually feel sorry for this country's people. They themselves have no idea of what they're asking for.
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Calm down.

In the end he was a corrupt leader Zardari should be next.
 
AZ said:
we know, I don't think anybody thinks he was a Gustakh.

just some rubbish from fundamentalist types.

whatever I have ever heard from people, they say he was quite a corrupt fellow.

but that never got him killed, yet doing the right thing has.
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Well, all the companies he formed were when he was not in govt. And there isn't a single case of corruption against him and as far as i remember he was never accused of corruption even not from rana sana ullah. And what i have heard from my fellow Chartered Accountants he was quite a professional, objective and intelligent person.
And Btw, the consultancy firms he established cannot be formed with he help of corruption or by man of ordinary skills or abilities.
 
d0gers said:
For the people rejoicing over his death, may Allah guide them.

Having said that, I compare it to my reaction when I hear of a Taliban leader's death. While I don't go and start a Facebook page to celebrate their murderers, in a way maybe I'm no different.
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I applaud your honesty.
 
Abdullah22 said:
Calm down.

In the end he was a corrupt leader Zardari should be next.
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It's not about him being corrupt. I've already written a lot against him in that department in the first couple pages of this topic.

It's about people's reaction to this kind of an event. People around me at the moment are rejoicing his death and saying that the guy who killed him is noble and has served Islam and will go straight to heaven even if he gets hanged now.

I have an issue with this kind of crap.
 
Though this is by no means a justification for this barbaric act at all but Salman Taseer had a very controversial lifestyle. I have seen so many controversial pictures of him at parties. He and his family lead a very flamboyant lifestyle and they are so open about it. However doesnt mean his family deserved to lose him, i really feel for them right now.

On a sidenote this is an absolute disaster and its shocking to know that his security did nothing to fight back.
 
Gilani announces 3 days of mourning.

Thanks PM,how about 3 days of mourning for the people killed by the jahil Taliban on an almost weekly basis ? Them too or is Salman Taseer's blood more important ?

Here we go with the ''Salman Taseer Airports'' and the creation of a new 'Taseerabad' city.
 
Dozens of the party's supporters took to the streets of Lahore, Punjab's provincial capital, burning tyres and blocking traffic to protest against the assassination.
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For goodness sake,what good will that do ?
 
I know this is not exactly relevant to this thread but i just read on Wikipedia that he was an Ahmadi ? :13:
 
Nobody should be killed for their opinions. What a lovely jamhooriyat we have! This nation and democracy can never walk in hand.

I don't know much about politics or this guy's significance except for the blasphemy law thing but man, his family has lost someone so people should atleast feel for them.
 
Markhor said:
Gilani announces 3 days of mourning.

Thanks PM,how about 3 days of mourning for the people killed by the jahil Taliban on an almost weekly basis ? Them too or is Salman Taseer's blood more important ?
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Exactly. These are the kind of things which make me angry
 
Looney said:
I know this is not exactly relevant to this thread but i just read on Wikipedia that he was an Ahmadi ? :13:
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Interesting.Wikipedia also says

He stood for change in the Constitution declaring Ahmadi/ Qadyani community to be non-muslims. However, he never claimed/ commented about himself having the same religious belief.
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Now anyone can say the Blasphemy laws are bad.But if people have actually followed his antics over the last few years,then you'll see what kind of a man he really is.
 
Looney said:
I know this is not exactly relevant to this thread but i just read on Wikipedia that he was an Ahmadi ? :13:
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He wasn't ahmadi. Wikipedia article was edited after his statement about blasphemy laws. This thing wasn't there six months ago and didnt you read also that he took part in the movement of declaring ahmadis non muslim. I just heard on tv that his father was one of aashiqen rasool. And Btw, he was nephew of faiz ahmed faiz so do the math.
And about a month ago I read an article where some one wrote that his father was primary teacher, salman taseer is matric pass and he married a wealthy woman whose father owned world call. You see in pakistan people will go to any length to discredit you.
 
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I am shocked to see so many calls for public executions and speedy capital punishments. People like the accused are very rarely the problem in such issues. They are more commonly symptoms of a much larger problem of intolerance in a section of the society. Unless intolerance is ended, a lot of more Qadris will be produced.
 
Inna lillaahi wa inna ilaihi rajioon.

As a teenager I personally hate politics, especially politics in Pakistan considering how much corruption and violence there is.

However even though I don't follow politics, I have many uncles and my dad who constantly talk about politics with a passion as if there's no tommorow so I have some knowledge on politics.

I'd just like to point out how sad and disgusted I am by hearing this - I know Taseer commited a bad sin by saying something against the Prophet but what the guard did was 10 times worse in my opinion - the guard is a murderer and that's against Islam too, so I don't know what he's gaining from this because all I can say is that all he will be gaining nothing apart from commiting a big sin.

a guard should be protecting people - but if guards are turning out to be like this then I'm sorry but how on earth are politicians suppose to feel safe and be able to express their opinions?

The thing that makes it even more worse is that Taseer's family are getting threats too - they aren't even in the politicis, why should they suffer for a thing that someone else did?

Typical, just typical.. sick.
 
ganeshran said:
I am shocked to see so many calls for public executions and speedy capital punishments. People like the accused are very rarely the problem in such issues. They are more commonly symptoms of a much larger problem of intolerance in a section of the society. Unless intolerance is ended, a lot of more Qadris will be produced.
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You won't understand the need for speedy punishment in Pakistan. Had it been doubtful that he did it, it would have made sense to have a long, detailed trial where his guilt was established beyond doubt.

But this guy is claiming to the media himself that he did it because of Taseer's stand on the blaphemy law and he has no regrets. Why drag the trial now? If it's dragged, it will just gain political mileage and the guy might escape punishment if tomorrow a political party or ruler decides to pardon him for 'serving Islam'. It can very well happen in Pakistan.

No high profile political assassination has been punished yet in this country. For assassins, I think the safest job is to kill a politician in Pakistan because there is no history of anyone like this getting caught or punished. I think it's time to start setting things right so it deters future fundos like this guy.
 
Theo_14 said:
I'd just like to point out how sad and disgusted I am by hearing this - I know Taseer commited a bad sin by saying something against the Prophet .
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I agree completely with all the rest of your post mate, but what exactly did Taseer say against the Prophet?
 
On Twitter, Glimpses of a Slain Pakistani Governor’s War on Religious ‘Fanatics’
By ROBERT MACKEY
The New York Times
In a recent update on Twitter, Salman Taseer, the governor of Pakistan’s Punjab province, refused to back down from his support for changing the country’s blasphemy law.
As my colleagues Salman Masood and Carlotta Gall report, the governor of Pakistan’s Punjab province, Salman Taseer, was shot and killed by one of his guards on Tuesday.
Mr. Taseer had recently waged a very public campaign to save the life of a Christian woman sentenced to death under Pakistan’s blasphemy law and his assassin was reportedly angered by the governor’s outspoken support for changing that law, despite the objections of Islamist leaders.
Pakistan’s interior minister, Rehman Malik, told reporters: “The police guard who killed him says he did this because Mr. Taseer recently defended the proposed amendments to the blasphemy law. This is what he told the police after surrendering himself.”
Through his frequently-updated Twitter feed, Mr. Taseer was a tireless combatant in Pakistan’s online culture war, between religious conservatives and secular liberals, and his death was immediately mourned on blogs and social networks.
In an emotional post on the blog Pak Tea House, Yasser Latif Hamdani, a Lahore lawyer, wrote:
The ******** have murdered the one honest man in the whole shameful lot of bigots, fascists and idiots… Today is a most tragic day for Pakistan, for sanity and for humanity. Salman Taseer was MURDERED by religio-fascists.
Mr. Hamdani added that the governor’s killing had laid bare “the whirlpool of religious violence and extremism we are stuck in.”
As the BBC journalist Mishal Husain noted soon after Mr. Taseer’s death, readers unfamiliar with the governor’s willingness to take on what he called Pakistan’s “religious right” can scroll back through his recent updates on Twitter to get a sense of the man.
Three days ago, for instance, after street protests against proposed changes to the blasphemy law, Mr. Taseer pronounced himself:
Unimpressed by mullah rightest madrassa demo yesterday: small numbers abusive well organised no general public support
In an update posted on New Year’s Eve, Mr. Taseer declared that even though he was “under huge pressure” from the right to stop pushing for changes to the blasphemy law, he had no intention of doing so. “Even,” he added, “if I’m the last man standing.”
A few days earlier, referring to messages from other users of the social network calling for his death, Mr. Taseer suggested that they should be filed under: “Example of a sick mind.”
On Christmas Day he wrote:
Merry Xmas to all Christian brothers and sisters all over Pakistan. We respect ur patriotism & great role u have played building Pakistan.
The evening before, he seconded the observation of another Twitter user who wrote, “we live in a country where [the] mullah brigade can get away with murder but minorities are persecuted on frivolous charges.” Mr. Taseer added:
My observation on minorities: A man/nation is judged by how they support those weaker than them not how they lean on those stronger.
Covered in the righteous cloak of religion and even a puny dwarf imagines himself a monster. Important to face. And call their bluff.
In other notes posted in the weeks before his death, Mr. Taseer compared the struggle over the blasphemy law in Pakistan to the struggle “against extremists” by people “like Rosa Parks,” called a conservative media tycoon a “psychotic nut,” and attacked Islamist clerics who support suicide bombing. In the clipped slang of Twitter, Mr. Taseer wrote in December:
My advice 2 mullahs who r telling little madrassah boys that they have a ticket 2 heaven: Grab it urself or give it 2 ur son
Mr. Taseer also used Twitter to alert his followers to remarks he made about the religious “lunatic fringe” in an interview with Pakistan’s Newsline on Dec. 23, in which he said that the country’s blasphemy law “is a man-made law, not a God-made one.”
In the same interview, Mr. Taseer explained that he had taken up the case of the Christian woman sentenced to death for blasphemy because “this is a blatant violation against a member of a minority community. I, like a lot of right-minded people, was outraged.” He added: “The real problem is that the government is not prepared to face religious fanaticism head on. This also gives us a bad name in the world.”
Mr. Taseer’s feed was not exclusively devoted to tweaking Islamists, though. He also used it to joke about cricket (by suggesting that Pakistan’s successful blind cricket team might be cheating), to poke at his Indian followers and India’s prime minister and even to make light of the strain placed on diplomatic relations by the leaked U.S. cables. The week the first cables were published he wrote:
Having a small dinner tonight 4 new U.S. Ambassador Cameron Muenter & Marlyn his wife. Try not 2 discuss Wikileaks.
Last month, Mr. Taseer also posted links to an animated music video by a supporter who reimagined his fight with religious extremists as a rap battle and a video interview with YouTube in which he discussed the role of new media in Pakistan.
 
Theo_14 said:
I'd just like to point out how sad and disgusted I am by hearing this - I know Taseer commited a bad sin by saying something against the Prophet but what the guard did was 10 times worse in my opinion - the guard is a murderer and that's against Islam too, so I don't know what he's gaining from this because all I can say is that all he will be gaining nothing apart from commiting a big sin.
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But he didn't say anything bad about the Prophet. What he said was against this blasphemy law in our country. And here's where I think his stand was right.

Consider yourself as a religious minority in a country like Pakistan. You will have to be an idiot of the highest order to go around tearing and burning copies of Quran or saying stuff against the Prophet. Because everyone knows the punishment for it and the pathetic condition of our legal system which is impotent when it comes to defending people in such cases.

Most of the minority people rotting in our jails under this law are those who were framed because others had their eyes either on their property, their daughters, or something else. This is the easiest way to get rid of a minority person if he has the misfortune of coming in the way of something you want. There are many documented cases, just google it.

When people criticize this law, it doesn't mean they want freedom to abuse the Prophet. They want to repeal these laws so it protects these minorities against such injustices because our legal system is just incapable of separating the wrong ones from the wronged ones. Therefore, it makes sense to repeal these laws, at least until our legal system is strong and transparent enough to make this important distinction.

What is wrong with this?
 
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he was Hit by 9 Bullets and was dead before reaching hospital.

3 Hit in Cheast, 4 in Stomach and 2 in between neck and chin
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haroonrasheed320 said:
How did the attacker manage to do that, i mean these many shots & no one stopped him :O
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I think the fact that the guard could fire so many shots (some counts put it at 44 shots fired) without anybody stopping him means he was kept alive precisely so that he could say this was done because of Salman Taseer's comments on the blasphemy law.
 
I've heard that it is now 26 bullets?! any truth to this?
 
Maula Jutt said:
But he didn't say anything bad about the Prophet. What he said was against this blasphemy law in our country.

When people criticize this law, it doesn't mean they want freedom to abuse the Prophet. They want to repeal these laws so it protects these minorities against such injustices because our legal system is just incapable of separating the wrong ones from the wronged ones. Therefore, it makes sense to repeal these laws, at least until our legal system is strong and transparent enough to make this important distinction.

What is wrong with this?
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Agreed bro. Your spot on and I cant believe people cant see that doing away with that law was not an act of gustakhy
 
Shan, that is a very interesting and good article you have posted there.

I do not know how good/bad/corrupt the guy was or wasnt as a governer

However I applaud and salute Salman Taseer's brave stand against extremism.
 
He was actually shot 26 times? Allah maaf kare, I got shivers just thinking about it.
 
hasanb said:
I agree completely with all the rest of your post mate, but what exactly did Taseer say against the Prophet?
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Oh dear, sorry about that - I don't have a clue where that came from.. I guess I'm still not over what happend and I believe it's something he said against the law, apologies again.
 
I'm still stunned. More so after reading Salman Taseer's Twitter updates. A few hours before he was murdered he posted this line from a Shakil Badayuni ghazal:

Mera azm itna bulund hae Parae sholon se dar nahin. Mujhe dar hae tu atish e gul se hae Ye kahin chaman ko jala na dein

Also shocked and disappointed at some of the comments I'm reading on Facebook i.e. from within my own network of friends and relatives.

One is calling for Asia Bibi's death.

Another is cursing Zardari and Altaf Hussein saying this murder should be a lesson for them.
 
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Worst thing is I have had at least 10 people from a taxi driver to upper class 'educated' Islamabadi's tell me how this is great news.

'Changa oya ji'

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انّا للہ و انّا الیہ راجعون

My condolences to all his family members:53:....... Extremely tragic it is:(.......
 
My sympathies to his family.

No point in hiding the fact a lot of Pakistani's won't be too sad to hear this. The man spent much of his time and effort in trying to save Asia Bibi but what has he done for the rest of the Pakistani people? Why wasn't he so much vocal for Dr Aafia Siddiqui? He was a member under Musharaff and then under PPP.

Most of these Pak politions are puppets of foriegn regimes and have no respect from their own people.
 
RIP Salman.

its a moment to ponder for all pundits who gave the fatwa wajib-e-qatal against Salman Taseer. And now they come to these talkshows and defend the blasphemy law, I really dont get. Either you keep the law, if someone God forbid insults Rasool-e-Akram, then you register a FIR against him and take him/her to court. What is the point of giving fatwa's then, surely we cant allow people taking justice in their own hands like this.
 
KingKhanWC said:
My sympathies to his family.

No point in hiding the fact a lot of Pakistani's won't be too sad to hear this. The man spent much of his time and effort in trying to save Asia Bibi but what has he done for the rest of the Pakistani people? Why wasn't he so much vocal for Dr Aafia Siddiqui? He was a member under Musharaff and then under PPP.

Most of these Pak politions are puppets of foriegn regimes and have no respect from their own people.
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I dont know why people bring afia siddiqui in it. Does any body knows after her arrest in afghanistan in 2008 her own maternal uncle said that few days before her arrest she hidded in his house for 3 days. Even wikileaks proved that she was not in american custody from 2003 to 2008. And Btw, salman taseer was not in musharaf govt. he was in interim govt on the orders of benazir.
 
I think we have to look at the murder of salman taseer in perspective. Personally, i didn't shed a single tear on his murder neither did it make me sad. I dont know why the murder has been given so much hype. Is he the first person to die because of terrorism or religious extremism. Thousands and thousands of people die of hunger every year, thousands and thousands of people have died of terrorism ,Every other day innocent people die in tribal areas, some because of drone strikes, others by our own army, hundreds and hundreds are dying in balochistan. My heart bleeds and weeps for all of them, but it doesn't and will not bleed for people who are sucking the blood of 160 million pakistanis, approved the drone strikes and will loot our country to the last drop of their blood.

People are arguing patiently why no one should take law in their own hands. Shoudn't that apply when we kill innocent people in tribal areas and brand them terrorist and dont get me started on balochistan. People taking law in their own hands is not new. Musharraf did it, yahya khan did it, zia ul haq did it, ayob khan did it, army has done in tribal areas, and in balochistan, every prime minister has done it. Did any one get punished? Selective justice brought our country to this place.

There is no doubt that blasphemy laws should be amended, but so does every other law which is being used. For Salman Taseer to call blasphemy law a black law and demand its removal is sickening. People who support removal of blasphemy law are naive and committing massive sin. Removal of blasphemy law means that any one can nauzubillah abuse and disrespect our beloved prophet (P.B.U.H). YES, it should be amended so the law is not misused but guyz, dont be naive by suggesting it should be removed.

I dont want to start a war of words here, i know majority of people will disagree with me, so only respond if you want to argue in a sensible way, dont personally attack me by making stupid comments. I just wanted to express my opinion. Yes, his murder is condemnable but its as much condemnableas
any other murder in pakistan.

Thankyou and good bye
 
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I dont know why people bring afia siddiqui in it. Does any body knows after her arrest in afghanistan in 2008 her own maternal uncle said that few days before her arrest she hidded in his house for 3 days. Even wikileaks proved that she was not in american custody from 2003 to 2008. And Btw, salman taseer was not in musharaf govt. he was in interim govt on the orders of benazir.
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Not going to go into the case of Dr Aafia but the point is he was so vocal for the minorities including the Ahmadi community (not that I'm against them) but what has he done for the majority of Paksitani's? He was a minister in the caretaker cabinet of Prime Minister Muhammad Mian Soomro under Pervez Musharraf.

I'm not here trying to condemn a guy who has just been murdered but to me Pak politions in general are only there for their own good and Pakistan has gone down hill because of this.
 
Inna Lillahi Wa Inna Ilaihi Rajioon.

Theo_14 said:
Inna lillaahi wa inna ilaihi rajioon.

As a teenager I personally hate politics, especially politics in Pakistan considering how much corruption and violence there is.

However even though I don't follow politics, I have many uncles and my dad who constantly talk about politics with a passion as if there's no tommorow so I have some knowledge on politics.

I'd just like to point out how sad and disgusted I am by hearing this - I know Taseer commited a bad sin by saying something against the Prophet but what the guard did was 10 times worse in my opinion - the guard is a murderer and that's against Islam too, so I don't know what he's gaining from this because all I can say is that all he will be gaining nothing apart from commiting a big sin.

a guard should be protecting people - but if guards are turning out to be like this then I'm sorry but how on earth are politicians suppose to feel safe and be able to express their opinions?

The thing that makes it even more worse is that Taseer's family are getting threats too - they aren't even in the politicis, why should they suffer for a thing that someone else did?

Typical, just typical.. sick.
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My sentiments exactly.

I might not be too knowledgeable on politics, especially Pakistani but this is just outragous. Sickening stuff. You may not agree with ones views but surely that doesn't give you the right to go out there and kill them? Disgusting act.

Pakistan's future looks really bleak...:(
 
Guys I've skimmed through the read so apologies if what I'm asking has been asked but what exactly did he do that was against the prophet?
 
taxzu said:
He wasn't ahmadi. Wikipedia article was edited after his statement about blasphemy laws. This thing wasn't there six months ago and didnt you read also that he took part in the movement of declaring ahmadis non muslim. I just heard on tv that his father was one of aashiqen rasool. And Btw, he was nephew of faiz ahmed faiz so do the math.
And about a month ago I read an article where some one wrote that his father was primary teacher, salman taseer is matric pass and he married a wealthy woman whose father owned world call. You see in pakistan people will go to any length to discredit you.
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what a load of rubbish about him being a matric pass.. He was an ACA ffs.. As for corruption he was one of the few leaders of Pakistan who made money after leaving politics. I would also like to know what exactly did he say which was wrong.

As the man himself said;
'God can take care of himself. Men made anti-blasphemy laws and men can change what they made'. Brave words. Salman Taseer R.I.P.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Guys I've skimmed through the read so apologies if what I'm asking has been asked but what exactly did he do that was against the prophet?
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he did not say anything against the Holy Prophet PBUH, it was a senseless act of cold-blooded murder.
 
ppl get so much indulged in playing politics with everything they face and sometimes it ends up in sore tragedy for them ..... This guy probably didnt realise that he was living in Pakistan .

anyways , what surprised me most is that the assailant is a "Qadri" ... which indicates a Shafi'i , Barelvi .... It is often considered among Religious circles that this sect is the softest most / action-less sect in region when compared to Wahabi led deoband , ahl e Hadith in terms of militancy .
 
madaboutlfc said:
As the man himself said;
'God can take care of himself. Men made anti-blasphemy laws and men can change what they made'. Brave words. Salman Taseer R.I.P.
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Brave words and a very brave man, i really salute his campaign against extremists.
 
AZ said:
he did not say anything against the Holy Prophet PBUH, it was a senseless act of cold-blooded murder.
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So he criticised the Blasphemy Law thats all? I followed the story in the morning but then lost track. May Allah grant him jannat.
 
Inna lillaahi wa inna ilaihi rajioon.

A sad way to perish.

Sends a substantially grimy message of the state Pakistan is at this moment. Politicians being murdered for certain views they hold is nothing short of barbaric and inhumane. If one strongly opposes a politician's viewpoint on a topic; utilize the appropriate forum to lodge an opposing view. Perhaps, next time lend your vote to a politician with similar views to yours?

I would not at all be shocked if this was politically motivated. The usage of his blasphemy law statements as reasoning for his abrupt departure from this world is nothing short of iffy. The Pakistani political world is one rife with corruption and individuals who should be nowhere near the positions they currently occupy. Politicians have been known to use the strength of guns to get their way and this could potentially be no different.

The country has taken another step backwards.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
So he criticised the Blasphemy Law thats all? I followed the story in the morning but then lost track. May Allah grant him jannat.
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The Blasphemy law 295c of Pakistan is ironically very UNISLAMIC. It was enacted in 1985 by Zia Ul Haq through his self-appointed "Majlis-e-Shoora". There was no involvement of the judiciary or the parliament in the enacting of this law. Zia passed this without such measures, and that is the hallmark of a dictator. Due to him passing the law without approving through legal channels or refining it from a legal perspective, the law is basically a sham and has been exploited.

For instance, in 2000, 62 cases of blasphemy were reported. Oddly enough, around 50 of them were against Muslims. Similarly, the authority of holding a person under a blasphemy law and charging them under it lies solely with the police. There is no court or magistrate involved in registering a case, thus making exploitation very easy. People charged under these laws have been kept in prison for years without any due process, with most of them not having substantial evidence produced against them that they defamed the Holy Prophet. Years go by without the accused getting any proper legal representation, and the most frustrating part is that there is no accountability system for those that wrongly accuse the other person under the blasphemy law.

Salmaan Taseer labelled the blasphemy law as a "black law", and he had every right to say it. Everyone who believes in a proper justice system can see that the blasphemy law is not a proper representation of our constitution nor Islam for that matter. At no time did Taseer say anything against the HOLY PROPHET.

It is simply remarkable how people fail to distinguish the fact that the Blasphemy Law is a man-made law and has been used not in the spirit of Islam but merely in the spirit of exploitation for personal gain. Just look at all the cases registered under blasphemy laws and you will see that they all stem from tribal conflicts or personal vendettas. Absolutely ridiculous that people think that Salman Taseer said something against the Prophet. Good job people, you just added another dimension of ignorance to our nation.
 
For the minority here that say he was corrupt and is responsible along with other politicians for the state our country is in .. what are these views based on??

And how some of you mentioned the drone attacks... there are people much more powerful than Salman Taseer (RIP) who are responsible for that.

Pathetic stuff from some posters

He was one of the few who took a stand against extremism and had a dream of pakistan being a democratic state.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/99055/salmaan-taseers-murder--the-death-of-reason/
 
I think there is more to his murder than just his stand on the blasphemy law.........................I see if there are other factors involved than just what is commonly understood.............and we may not be able to find that out...
 
ehjaz said:
I think there is more to his murder than just his stand on the blasphemy law.........................I see if there are other factors involved than just what is commonly understood.............and we may not be able to find that out...
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I think that as well, probably a pawn scarified for/by the king :zardari
 
These things happen.

Lets not cry over spilt milk

Look on the bright side, he probably supported drone attacks, he had no issue with drones killing our citizens and another type of drone targeted him.



I am not to familiar with this guy so I asked my wife about him, she says he is/was a horrible secular and very very corrupt person with a jahil lifestyle.


Its weird that people are saying he is a shaeed and will go to jannat, for the life he has had I dont fancy being in his shoes.
 
Rayaan said:
These things happen.

Lets not cry over spilt milk

Look on the bright side, he probably supported drone attacks, he had no issue with drones killing our citizens and another type of drone targeted him.



I am not to familiar with this guy so I asked my wife about him, she says he is/was a horrible secular and very very corrupt person with a jahil lifestyle.


Its weird that people are saying he is a shaeed and will go to jannat, for the life he has had I dont fancy being in his shoes.
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The problem is the reason he is killed will ignite more hatred towards Islam as if there wasn't already enough, all these "religious" people forget that in Islam it is not allowed to kill anyone apart from three-four circumstances and of those as well, some have to be sanctioned by the court/qazi.
1. Self Defense.
2. A married fornicator (man or woman, most forget about the man).
3. Murtad.

Last two needing court decisions, you just cannot go and kill someone.
 
Isnt that Islams destiny though (not to divert the topic) the faithful will always be faithful because there faith is in God and Islam so regardless of what happens in the dunya there faith is unshakable.

In the end its always going to come down to Muslim v the others its the way were headed and the way the end time occur isnt it. Our enemies will always hate us why try to stop the inevitable.


Back to topic,

I am in no way saying the guy deserved to die, From what I have learnt about his sinner lifestyle I hate his guts but he will answer to God for that.

However he supported drone attacks meaning he supported people being killed without due process, without trial, without proving guilt. Just boom Gone..


Well guess what Mr Taseer....


Its not nice that he died, but many have died.

He was a corrupt, secular sinner who is going to meet his maker and answer for his life
 
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