Question to meat eaters: Why do you do it?

[anakin]

I support freelance in his vision to turn India into a vegetarian nation.

Environmentally, and as the superior species, Vegetarianism is a better diet, But current scientific advances cannot feed even half the world.

India itself cannot feed itself, if we suddenly go 100% veg!!

 

[Bhaijaan]

I support freelance in his vision to turn India into a vegetarian nation.

Its a global appeal.

We all need to join hands in putting an end to the murders and cruelty.

 

[anakin]

Its a global appeal.

We all need to join hands in putting an end to the murders and cruelty.

As a concept, I support you man!!
But, the question the world will ask you is, Can you feed the 8 billion humans with just a veg diet?
If my logical compass is right, We can't!!

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I support freelance in his vision to turn India into a vegetarian nation.

Me too!

 

[Bhaijaan]

As a concept, I support you man!!
But, the question the world will ask you is, Can you feed the 8 billion humans with just a veg diet?
If my logical compass is right, We can't!!

I am sure we can find ways to deal with this. Whatever is going on these meat producing factories must stop immediately though.

Me too!

Thanks Cap. You need to join the forces soon. Vegetables are tastier and much lighter.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Brothers,

There is no conspiracy or politics behind this. You are well aware of the cruelty.

Have a look at this channel now that Youtube is unbnned in Pakistan again thankfully -
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcCUFZrM30X_YEhJty2IgXA


Some of the hard evidence you'll find in the channel must shake you from within if there is humanity in you.


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[Bhaijaan]

People who fight for mercy to animals are the Gandhis, Martin Luther Kings and Mendelas of the future. You don't want your future generations to look down upon you. You don't want them to know you used to eat meat for the taste of it and that you used to talk about it with shameless emojis and throwing pics around.

 

[Suleiman]

People who fight for mercy to animals are the Gandhis, Martin Luther Kings and Mendelas of the future. You don't want your future generations to look down upon you. You don't want them to know you used to eat meat for the taste of it and that you used to talk about it with shameless emojis and throwing pics around.

Yes definitely Martin Luther King

I personally made the picture black and white out of respect for the vegetarians on this forum. There is a chicken based dish in the picture which may be graphic for some, so using my photoshop skills I greyed out the photo, getting rid of the savory orange golden color to make it less graphic. Whether you are an omnivore, herbivore, carnivore or insectivore, I will respect your eating habits to bring aman ki asha to Time Pass

Enjoy your daal chawal or kebab boti, brothers. Whichever one you prefer.

 

[PetroDollars]

Veganism is very unhealthy but then red meat is hardly healthy either. Its about striking the right balance. Vegetarianism is fine but veganism is just too extreme.

WRONG

Red meat is among the most healthiest food sources on the planet

Its filled with natural vitamins and minerals which you wont get from anywhere else. Besides the food that you’re eating on a “normal diet” contains far less vitamins, minerals, and building blocks than meat.

Do you know what this guy eat every day?



STEAK AND EGGS, and nothing else.

He is Vince Gironda, (picture taken in his 40's), the Godfather of the bodybuilding world and mentor to Arnold.

He is known as the guy who had the greatest body build ever, possessed an IQ of 150, he was somewhat of a superhuman. However it was his diet that made him possess these abilities.

If you have studied all the diets out there and read the scientific trials done, you will know there are only 2 diets that are healthy, Paleo and Ketogenic Diet, the rest are BS, especially Veganism.

 

[anakin]

People who fight for mercy to animals are the Gandhis, Martin Luther Kings and Mendelas of the future. You don't want your future generations to look down upon you. You don't want them to know you used to eat meat for the taste of it and that you used to talk about it with shameless emojis and throwing pics around.

dude, just by stating its a superior way of life is not going to make others change,
Neither it is economically or Physically possible to feed the whole world on Veg diet,
Just harping that its a more humane diet doesnt solve the logistics,

Less than 10% of World Population, has core veg diet, Rest 90% population is pre-dominantly non veg,
The current agriculture of the world still finds it hard to accommodate this much mouths to feed, Imagine what happens when u overnight add 10 times more mouths to feed on just agriculture,
We dont have enough land to grow this much plant food.

 

[CricketCartoons]

dude, just by stating its a superior way of life is not going to make others change,
Neither it is economically or Physically possible to feed the whole world on Veg diet,
Just harping that its a more humane diet doesnt solve the logistics,

Less than 10% of World Population, has core veg diet, Rest 90% population is pre-dominantly non veg,
The current agriculture of the world still finds it hard to accommodate this much mouths to feed, Imagine what happens when u overnight add 10 times more mouths to feed on just agriculture,
We dont have enough land to grow this much plant food.

There will be more land available which is currently used to farm animals. More crops for humans which is now being used to grow food for animals. Climate change will be reversed. But millions who depend on animal products will go jobless.

 

[Bhaijaan]

If you need to mercilessly butcher animals for employment then Shane on us. We will find other employment sources. Surely humanity is not that badly dependent on cruelty to keep the economy moving.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

If you need to mercilessly butcher animals for employment then Shane on us. We will find other employment sources. Surely humanity is not that badly dependent on cruelty to keep the economy moving.

I think the day humanity stops making bombs and guns to kill other human beings, perhaps then we will move on to preserving lambs and cows from slaughter.

 

[Romali_rotti]

WRONG

Red meat is among the most healthiest food sources on the planet

Its filled with natural vitamins and minerals which you wont get from anywhere else. Besides the food that you’re eating on a “normal diet” contains far less vitamins, minerals, and building blocks than meat.

Do you know what this guy eat every day?

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STEAK AND EGGS, and nothing else.

He is Vince Gironda, (picture taken in his 40's), the Godfather of the bodybuilding world and mentor to Arnold.

He is known as the guy who had the greatest body build ever, possessed an IQ of 150, he was somewhat of a superhuman. However it was his diet that made him possess these abilities.

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So you all made up your mind little kid that secret behind Vince's physique was steak and eggs huh ? Oh and might I add it is also a very healthy look to have that much muscle, forcing your body to grow beyond what mother nature intended a male human to be , If it wasn't then most of the male population would look like Vince. Vince was jabbing all kinds of steroids into his a**, shoulders, thighs etc to built his physique if there were no chemicals Vince wouldn't have his physique same goes for Arnold... Meat eating has nothing to do with his IQ either, his IQ is purely based on genetics, what his mommy and daddy blessed him with hence he is smarter than a boat load of meat eaters who eat nothing but meat......

 

[Bhaijaan]

I think the day humanity stops making bombs and guns to kill other human beings, perhaps then we will move on to preserving lambs and cows from slaughter.

Bhaijaan, humans have threat from fellow humans that's why they build scary weapons.we have no threat from little pigs, lambs and chickens. Why slaughter them when they mean no harm to us?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Bhaijaan, humans have threat from fellow humans that's why they build scary weapons.we have no threat from little pigs, lambs and chickens. Why slaughter them when they mean no harm to us?

Humans only have threat from other fellow humans due to the greed for resources and wealth. This isn't so far removed from the other greed for tasty food. I think vegetarianism needs to be considered as part of a holistic lifestyle solution where we raise ourselves above the base animal behaviour and dismantle all weapons of mass destruction. Until we can learn to love and treat our fellow man with love and tenderness we will continue to consume animals because of our greed.

 

[PetroDollars]

So you all made up your mind little kid that secret behind Vince's physique was steak and eggs huh ? Oh and might I add it is also a very healthy look to have that much muscle, forcing your body to grow beyond what mother nature intended a male human to be , If it wasn't then most of the male population would look like Vince. Vince was jabbing all kinds of steroids into his a**, shoulders, thighs etc to built his physique if there were no chemicals Vince wouldn't have his physique same goes for Arnold... Meat eating has nothing to do with his IQ either, his IQ is purely based on genetics, what his mommy and daddy blessed him with hence he is smarter than a boat load of meat eaters who eat nothing but meat......

It was an example, there are 100 of others.

Secondly the problem with you vegans is that you just rely on assumptions and no science which shows how clueless your community is, which can be seen by your post above, yet you have the audacity to call me a kid, yet have written something you'd expect from a fifth grade kid.

Your whole post is full of assumptions, lies and no science. So can you prove all that junk or will you admit you just made it all up.

Mother nature did not intend to size every human the same, your muscle size, completely and totally depends on how you activate the body's growth mechanism. Some need a lot of strength, some need much less, your body gives you what you need, its all about the catabolic and anabolic effects, its as simple as that.

Most of the male population doesn't look like Vince because there bodies just don't produce the same metabolic effects that his body does, its because most of the population is use to sitting on sofa's and desk's all day long and there body's require no strength, therefore it never builds it. Yet 1000 years ago peoples bodies were much more powerful and fitter then they are today, so there goes your mother nature assumption.

Secondly on to Vince and steroids, again looks like you just made up an assumption and pulled out a lie for the sake for it. He is all about quality over quantity and his training, diet and advice reflected that philosophy.

Lastly on to genetics, which is a myth and lie in the health world, the only thing genetics is responsible for is the colour of your skin, eyes, height etc.

if you think genetics are responsible for your IQ and humans are suppose to be small and weak, then it really shows the shameful effects what veganism has on you.

....and you claim Vince took steroids, which should mess up his brain, then claim his IQ was because of genetics, does that make any sense, of course not, just like the rest of your post.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Humans only have threat from other fellow humans due to the greed for resources and wealth. This isn't so far removed from the other greed for tasty food. I think vegetarianism needs to be considered as part of a holistic lifestyle solution where we raise ourselves above the base animal behaviour and dismantle all weapons of mass destruction. Until we can learn to love and treat our fellow man with love and tenderness we will continue to consume animals because of our greed.

That will never happen. No matter how peaceful and prosperous we become as a society, there will always be people who wanna dominate and are hateful.

 

[Romali_rotti]

It was an example, there are 100 of others.

Secondly the problem with you vegans is that you just rely on assumptions and no science which shows how clueless your community is, which can be seen by your post above, yet you have the audacity to call me a kid, yet have written something you'd expect from a fifth grade kid.

Your whole post is full of assumptions, lies and no science. So can you prove all that junk or will you admit you just made it all up.

Mother nature did not intend to size every human the same, your muscle size, completely and totally depends on how you activate the body's growth mechanism. Some need a lot of strength, some need much less, your body gives you what you need, its all about the catabolic and anabolic effects, its as simple as that.



Most of the male population doesn't look like Vince because there bodies just don't produce the same metabolic effects that his body does, its because most of the population is use to sitting on sofa's and desk's all day long and there body's require no strength, therefore it never builds it. Yet 1000 years ago peoples bodies were much more powerful and fitter then they are today, so there goes your mother nature assumption.

Secondly on to Vince and steroids, again looks like you just made up an assumption and pulled out a lie for the sake for it. He is all about quality over quantity and his training, diet and advice reflected that philosophy.

Lastly on to genetics, which is a myth and lie in the health world, the only thing genetics is responsible for is the colour of your skin, eyes, height etc.

if you think genetics are responsible for your IQ and humans are suppose to be small and weak, then it really shows the shameful effects what veganism has on you.

....and you claim Vince took steroids, which should mess up his brain, then claim his IQ was because of genetics, does that make any sense, of course not, just like the rest of your post.

WT_F ? at your whole post lol ..


Kid, let me guess you think Arnold is natural too along with all your favorite movie stars like Stallone, Hulk Hugan AKA ( I am a real American, fight for the right of every man ) ).... Frank Zane weighed about 180 pounds on stage cut to shreds which is quite small and he was on a bucket load of gear, how do I know ? I have taken Frank Zane's personal tutoring course which was a 3 day event where I spent it with him personally; training, learning about nutrition and even visiting his house. He was quite a gentleman spoke openly and honestly about steroid use along with even going to detail about usage history of a certain other bodybuilders from the golden era along with himself and past aka Steve Reeves, it was legal back then....

 

[Romali_rotti]

One of the main points Frank told me; Diet and nutrition is the key but without performance enhancement you wont put together the physique you need regardless of how good your diet it is..

 

[PetroDollars]

WT_F ? at your whole post lol ..


Kid, let me guess you think Arnold is natural too along with all your favorite movie stars like Stallone, Hulk Hugan AKA ( I am a real American, fight for the right of every man ) ).... Frank Zane weighed about 180 pounds on stage cut to shreds which is quite small and he was on a bucket load of gear, how do I know ? I have taken Frank Zane's personal tutoring course which was a 3 day event where I spent it with him personally; training, learning about nutrition and even visiting his house. He was quite a gentleman spoke openly and honestly about steroid use along with even going to detail about usage history of a certain other bodybuilders from the golden era along with himself and past aka Steve Reeves, it was legal back then....

I never claimed any where Arnold was natural. Seems like you have difficulties comprehending basic English, nor did i mention any of the other names you seem to be barking on about. So firstly please learn the definition of kid first then come back as you seem like you are not even passed 5th grade yet.

This is like me picking out a murdered who was vegan then claiming all vegans are murders, Your Prime Minister Modi, i believe is a vegan himself, therefore if we go by your philosophy, does that mean all vegans are murders and Hindus extremists like him too?

 

[PetroDollars]

One of the main points Frank told me; Diet and nutrition is the key but without performance enhancement you wont put together the physique you need regardless of how good your diet it is..

Pretty much sums up the kind of education you have been brought up with.

 

[PetroDollars]

Lastly, the main point of the discussion was the science and health benefits of diets, yet you have been unable to produce a shred of any evidence that veganism is healthy or meat is bad, your whole posts are full of assumptions and 10 year old rants.

 

[Romali_rotti]

This is like me picking out a murdered who was vegan then claiming all vegans are murders, Your Prime Minister Modi, i believe is a vegan himself, therefore if we go by your philosophy, does that mean all vegans are murders and Hindus extremists like him too?

THIS THIS AND THIS.. This was the response I wanted, typical victim mentality of a probable Muslim Pakistani bring in Modi, why don't you pay more attention to those Hindu and Christian minorities in Pakistan instead ? Indian Muslims are not your problem. By the way I am not vegan nor a vegetarian, I eat chicken, eggs and fish. One day I hope to become a vegan purely on compassionate basis as meat and dairy is no longer a necessity for humans we are no longer living in caves trying to hunt for survival.

 

[Romali_rotti]

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[Romali_rotti]

Pretty much sums up the kind of education you have been brought up with.

Yeap, being tutored by Frank Zane will do me just fine over some random Pakistani's input on the net..I will be fine lol

 

[James]

I am not a dietician so I don't know much about the health benefits / risks about eating meat or not eating meat. I am a lacto-ovo vegetarian (NB I am NOT a vegan) for ethical reasons only.

 

[Romali_rotti]

I am not a dietician so I don't know much about the health benefits / risks about eating meat or not eating meat. I am a lacto-ovo vegetarian (NB I am NOT a vegan) for ethical reasons only.

Hope you are well my friend... So Eggs and Dairy, make sure you have organic Dairy if you can, that will serve more towards the ethical cause. ...

 

[PetroDollars]

THIS THIS AND THIS.. This was the response I wanted, typical victim mentality of a probable Muslim Pakistani bring in Modi, why don't you pay more attention to those Hindu and Christian minorities in Pakistan instead ? Indian Muslims are not your problem. By the way I am not vegan nor a vegetarian, I eat chicken, eggs and fish. One day I hope to become a vegan purely on compassionate basis as meat and dairy is no longer a necessity for humans we are no longer living in caves trying to hunt for survival.

Thanks for derailing the topic, it just proves how you are clueless on the subject and have no answer other then childish rants and absurd assumptions that make up all of your posts.

..and keeping staying delusional it suits you, we eat foods that our bodies are designed for, what we evolved to being, all your factory produced and processed cr@p has only given the world metabolic diseases, cancer, diabetes and a whole host of other diseased, that were once not known to man. If thats the future you see for India, great i have no objection.

 

[PetroDollars]

Yeap, being tutored by Frank Zane will do me just fine over some random Pakistani's input on the net..I will be fine lol

Another rant, keep it up. You so proved how great veganism is and how bad meat is )

 

[Romali_rotti]

Thanks for derailing the topic, it just proves how you are clueless on the subject and have no answer other then childish rants and absurd assumptions that make up all of your posts.

..and keeping staying delusional it suits you, we eat foods that our bodies are designed for, what we evolved to being, all your factory produced and processed cr@p has only given the world metabolic diseases, cancer, diabetes and a whole host of other diseased, that were once not known to man. If thats the future you see for India, great i have no objection.

Ok lets stop all the nonsense and stupidity about eating steak and eggs for building world class physiques and having an overblown IQ and get down to the niddy griddy;
If you can slaughter the animal with your own hands and then eat its meat, I dont see any problem with you eating meat. Can you do that ?

 

[Romali_rotti]

Another rant, keep it up. You so proved how great veganism is and how bad meat is )

Errr Becoming a vegan is for ethical, compassionate reasons, you don't seem to have what it takes kid...

 

[Bhaijaan]

[MENTION=130076]PetroDollars[/MENTION]

Please behave. This thread is not for making troubles and attacking fellow posters. Thanks.

 

[James]

Hope you are well my friend... So Eggs and Dairy, make sure you have organic Dairy if you can, that will serve more towards the ethical cause. ...

I am well thanks mate and hope you are too.

I have heard that organic eggs / dairy is produced more ethically, and yet I have also heard that this is a bit of a sham claim and organic is no better than non-organic: which one of these positions is the correct one, to your knowledge?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

If you can slaughter the animal with your own hands and then eat its meat, I dont see any problem with you eating meat. Can you do that ?

I have already asked this question. Most of the people can't do it. They just like it in their plates.

 

[PetroDollars]

Ok lets stop all the nonsense and stupidity about eating steak and eggs for building world class physiques and having an overblown IQ and get down to the niddy griddy;
If you can slaughter the animal with your own hands and then eat its meat, I dont see any problem with you eating meat. Can you do that ?

) so after your rants and and childish posts, now you want to get down to the 'niddy griddy'

First i'm still waiting for any of you vegans to show how meat is bad? 8 pages and no answer still.

Secondly, i dont slaughter the animal with my own hands, i eat meat yes, because its nutritionally a super food and is yummy, but mainly i eat it for its high quality protein and nutrition.

 

[PetroDollars]

Errr Becoming a vegan is for ethical, compassionate reasons, you don't seem to have what it takes kid...

Errrr, NO.

Most people who are vegans are in it because they some how believe its a healthy lifestyle and there decisions are based off 'The China Study' which has been debunked again and again and again as being flawed and useless.

 

[PetroDollars]

[MENTION=130076]PetroDollars[/MENTION]

Please behave. This thread is not for making troubles and attacking fellow posters. Thanks.

Ohh says the one who brought science into it, then ran away...

 

[PetroDollars]

I am well thanks mate and hope you are too.

I have heard that organic eggs / dairy is produced more ethically, and yet I have also heard that this is a bit of a sham claim and organic is no better than non-organic: which one of these positions is the correct one, to your knowledge?

What do you mean by ethically? if you mean farmers kicking chickens around in barns and fields then you will need to visit the farm to see how they treat them

If you talking about quality of food then its different. In Eggs

Not All Eggs Are The Same

It’s important to keep in mind that not all eggs are created equal.

Hens are often raised in factories, caged and fed grain-based feed that alters the final nutrient composition of the eggs. It is best to buy Omega-3 enriched or pastured eggs, they are more nutritious and healthier.

However, conventional supermarket eggs are still a good choice if you can’t afford or access the others.
http://authoritynutrition.com/6-reasons-why-eggs-are-the-healthiest-food-on-the-planet/

It seems like you live in UK, so you will have a problem finding Omega-3 enriched or pastured eggs, therefore Organic or free range is the next best.

In terms of sham claim, a lot of it is marketing by companies. You can read up on the scientific studies done on them, then make up your mind.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Ohh says the one who brought science into it, then ran away...

You make some decent points, totally welcome that. Only your other tendency i was referring to. Please keep that in check, rest is fine. Thanks.

 

[Bhaijaan]

This little kid brought tears to his meat eating/cooking mother's eyes by his extremely pure and humane thoughts. Stay blessed boy.

We are all born with such tender hearts. Its only time that toughens us to the point some develop complete stone heartedness and extreme insensitivity to the suffering of animals God created just like us.


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[Bhaijaan]

Another wise kid leading by example

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''Its really sad that animals have to die so that we can eat.''

Touched.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Meat eater mother tries to convince daughter to eat animal. Daughter bursts into tears at the thought of murdering poor animal for food.

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[Bhaijaan]

Meat eating should never be forced on to kids. They must be allowed to grow till an age they can decide for themselves they want it or not. Really felt terrible at seeing this little kid in above video crying at her mother forcing her to eat meat. Clearly against her conscience and this is a crime in my eyes. What do you reckon mate? [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION]

 

[Syed1]

Meat eating should never be forced on to kids. They must be allowed to grow till an age they can decide for themselves they want it or not. Really felt terrible at seeing this little kid in above video crying at her mother forcing her to eat meat. Clearly against her conscience and this is a crime in my eyes. What do you reckon mate? [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION]

That is a fail logic. Kids hate vegetables even more and if parents do not force them no kid will ever have a green vegetable.

Also all kids hate getting vaccinations should we wait till they are eighteen before we let them decide those things for themselves?

 

[Bhaijaan]

^

Comparing life saving vaccinations and harmless vegetables to animal slaughter mate? Like seriously?


What the lady was doing in that video is clear cut child molestation in my eyes.

 

[PetroDollars]

^

Comparing life saving vaccinations and harmless vegetables to animal slaughter mate? Like seriously?


What the lady was doing in that video is clear cut child molestation in my eyes.

Animals that were ment to be slaughtered and eaten, so yes he has made a good point.

Your philosophy is flawed because plants are living organisms too.

 

[aniket1911]

Animals that were ment to be slaughtered and eaten, so yes he has made a good point.

Your philosophy is flawed because plants are living organisms too.

Which animals are we talking about ?

No it's not. It means being's who have centralized nervous system and can feel pain. Plants don't have it mate.

 

[James]

Meat eating should never be forced on to kids. They must be allowed to grow till an age they can decide for themselves they want it or not. Really felt terrible at seeing this little kid in above video crying at her mother forcing her to eat meat. Clearly against her conscience and this is a crime in my eyes. What do you reckon mate? [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION]

Kids should be raised with access to all food options, so they can make their own personal choices.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Errrr, NO.

Most people who are vegans are in it because they some how believe its a healthy lifestyle and there decisions are based off 'The China Study' which has been debunked again and again and again as being flawed and useless.

ERRR, How do you know 'most' people are following a vegan diet for a healthy lifestyle ?

 

[Romali_rotti]

I am well thanks mate and hope you are too.

I have heard that organic eggs / dairy is produced more ethically, and yet I have also heard that this is a bit of a sham claim and organic is no better than non-organic: which one of these positions is the correct one, to your knowledge?

Good to hear buddy, Organic/Free range Eggs are usually more ethical well you hope so anyway, you can tell by look at the shell; the caged eggs would have a pale color with a more fragile shell while the Organic/ free range eggs would be more reddish with a harder shell. Milk is quite a tricky business, its quite hard to trust whether the cow that supplied you the milk was roaming around in the fields or a in factory, it is touch and go, here in Australia if you go to the country side there is acreage of lands where you can see the cow moving freely and living a non factory life and the farmer would milk it in front of you ( this milk is quite expensive) not sure how you guys do it there.

 

[Romali_rotti]

) so after your rants and and childish posts, now you want to get down to the 'niddy griddy'

First i'm still waiting for any of you vegans to show how meat is bad? 8 pages and no answer still.


What part of Ethics dont you understand child ? I made my point clear already.

Secondly, i dont slaughter the animal with my own hands, i eat meat yes, because its nutritionally a super food and is yummy, but mainly i eat it for its high quality protein and nutrition.

Ofcourse you wont, and I do commend you for being honest, if you dont have what it takes to look at the harsh reality or the ugly side of life because your taste buds (Yummy bit) takes precedence then you dont have what it takes, you do not have compassion. There was a youtube video of a cow being slaughtered alive without even Stunning it that was sold for Macdonalds beef patties because the Stun gun did not work on that day (the way it screamed, begged and at the same time licking the hands of the person who cut it up while it was being tortured was a sight to be seen, there are 1000s of cases like this, the veal industry is even more disgusting, quite an eye opener.....

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[Syed1]

Stop shoving your beliefs down our throats

 

[PetroDollars]

Which animals are we talking about ?

No it's not. It means being's who have centralized nervous system and can feel pain. Plants don't have it mate.

No it doesn't, animals do not suffer any pain when slaughtered. In fact with all the hulla gulla in the west about halal slaughtering causing pain has been proven to be incorrect, as reports reveal the animal goes unconscious and feels no pain.

 

[PetroDollars]

ERRR, How do you know 'most' people are following a vegan diet for a healthy lifestyle ?

Its the new Fad diet, and its what i am against, if you are in it for other reasons then good for, but if you think its some how healthy then its wrong.

 

[PetroDollars]

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Do you even understand the definition of the words you write?

By writing like a 5th grade student and then putting in smiles, does not make your absurd and badly written posts look better.

Lastly learn to write properly in the reply box not in the quotation box, if you don't know what that means, check a dictionary.

 

[Syed1]

Do you even understand the definition of the words you write?

By writing like a 5th grade student and then putting in smiles, does not make your absurd and badly written posts look better.

Lastly learn to write properly in the reply box not in the quotation box, if you don't know what that means, check a dictionary.

Ripped him apart

 

[aniket1911]

No it doesn't, animals do not suffer any pain when slaughtered. In fact with all the hulla gulla in the west about halal slaughtering causing pain has been proven to be incorrect, as reports reveal the animal goes unconscious and feels no pain.

"Our conclusions ... are that such an injury will result in significant pain and distress ... before insensibility supervenes.
Fawc is in agreement with the prevailing scientific consensus that slaughter without pre-stunning causes pain and distress.
On the basis that this is avoidable and in the interests of welfare, Fawc concludes that all animals should be pre-stunned before slaughter."

This is a statement from Farm Animal Welfare Committee (FAWC) which is a mainstream body.

Btw why we are signaling out conventional slaughtering which is also very much prevalent today.

 

[PetroDollars]

This is a statement from Farm Animal Welfare Committee (FAWC) which is a mainstream body.

Btw why we are signaling out conventional slaughtering which is also very much prevalent today.

There statement talks about no stunning, so first make up your mind, which meat is it that your against pre-stun or no stun, or all of them, just for the sake of it.

Can you provide a link to the source?

If you are talking about halal slaughtering, then the connection to the brain gets cut off and the animal become unconscious.

 

[aniket1911]

There statement talks about no stunning, so first make up your mind, which meat is it that your against pre-stun or no stun, or all of them, just for the sake of it.

Can you provide a link to the source?

If you are talking about halal slaughtering, then the connection to the brain gets cut off and the animal become unconscious.

I am against the notion that animal's don't feel pain in halal slaughtering as it's impossible to slaughter making it 100% painfree experience for animal.

Btw are you only advocating for halal slaughtering ?
Anyway here's other link you might wanna read regarding this topic.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ligious-slaughter-say-scientists-1712241.html

 

[James]

I think the animal would usually feel pain when it was killed, but my views are irrelevant because none of us can prove this either way.

Surely the most important thing is that the animal has been killed. We have taken away its right to life because we want to eat it. That's the real issue here for me: not the intricacies of the nervous system.

 

[Adil_94]

You make some decent points, totally welcome that. Only your other tendency i was referring to. Please keep that in check, rest is fine. Thanks.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/28/jack-monroe-meat-vegan-food-ingredients. Brother someone else has converted to veganism. Maybe he saw your thread on PP. Also I apologise for sharing pictures of meat in this thread I apologise if I have offended you or any other non meat eaters in this thread. My behaviour was unacceptable and immature.

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[Romali_rotti]

Ripped him apart

Aww the insecure little kid comes with the much needed re-enforcement ...


Banned twice from PP, me

 

[Romali_rotti]

Do you even understand the definition of the words you write?

By writing like a 5th grade student and then putting in smiles, does not make your absurd and badly written posts look better.

Lastly learn to write properly in the reply box not in the quotation box, if you don't know what that means, check a dictionary.

You have no reply because you have no answer to harsh realities, your taste buds (yummy bit) takes precedence.

 

[Romali_rotti]

I think the animal would usually feel pain when it was killed, but my views are irrelevant because none of us can prove this either way.

Surely the most important thing is that the animal has been killed. We have taken away its right to life because we want to eat it. That's the real issue here for me: not the intricacies of the nervous system.

Its a terrible industry but there are plenty of people becoming vegetarians and vegans for ethical reasons these people have a conscious and are not shallow enough to only give importance to their taste buds but rather the welfare of another living creature. Hopefully in a 100 years from now if the human race is still around we will have stopped these factory farming of animals and follow an ethically conscious lifestyle.

 

[aniket1911]

So much for halal slaughtering being ethical..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ivestock-butchered-without-stunned-first.html

 

[PetroDollars]

You have no reply because you have no answer to harsh realities, your taste buds (yummy bit) takes precedence.

There is no need to reply to a person who doesn't himself know what he is talking about.

Not only do you not make any sense, but you seem to have difficulties in putting two sentences together and comprehending basic English.

The only sense i have made from your posts is that your still in 5th grade.

 

[PetroDollars]

So much for halal slaughtering being ethical..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ivestock-butchered-without-stunned-first.html

I am against the notion that animal's don't feel pain in halal slaughtering as it's impossible to slaughter making it 100% painfree experience for animal.

Btw are you only advocating for halal slaughtering ?
Anyway here's other link you might wanna read regarding this topic.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ligious-slaughter-say-scientists-1712241.html

The discussion was, that your guys philosophy was flawed because plants are living organisms too, and this was your reply.

No it's not. It means being's who have centralized nervous system and can feel pain. Plants don't have it mate.

So now are you changing your mind and saying eating plants is the same as eating stunned animals.

Please clear your mind, you are contradicting yourself.

 

[Pakpak]

Guys, a lot of unsavory comments removed. Lets be civil.

 

[Bullet Drive]

Veg must be boring!

 

[The Last Of The Stars]

Meat eater mother tries to convince daughter to eat animal. Daughter bursts into tears at the thought of murdering poor animal for food.

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Do you eat anything?

 

[The Last Of The Stars]

Guys, a lot of unsavory comments removed. Lets be civil.

What if some are in Armed forces?

 

[Romali_rotti]

There is no need to reply to a person who doesn't himself know what he is talking about.

Not only do you not make any sense, but you seem to have difficulties in putting two sentences together and comprehending basic English.

The only sense i have made from your posts is that your still in 5th grade.

You do your thing kid, keep running away, ..

 

[Slog]

It's always funny to see Hindus who don't eat meat due to their religion try to get a moral high ground and claim that they don't do it because of some moral epiphany.

One should atleast have enough pride to admit that they are doing something because of their religion rather than try to spin it some other way and look 'cool.' We all know you'd be in line for a scrumptious juicy steak if it weren't forbidden by your religion

 

[PetroDollars]

You do your thing kid, keep running away, ..

Like i said before the smiley is not going to make you look any better. You have only given rants, insults and absurd assumptions with no backup.

Son, get past 5th grade then we will continue this discussion.

 

[PetroDollars]

It's always funny to see Hindus who don't eat meat due to their religion try to get a moral high ground and claim that they don't do it because of some moral epiphany.

One should atleast have enough pride to admit that they are doing something because of their religion rather than try to spin it some other way and look 'cool.' We all know you'd be in line for a scrumptious juicy steak if it weren't forbidden by your religion

The worst is when they claim it to be healthy and claim how meat is bad, again all without proof.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Feeling great today. Stopped my cousin from ordering non veg and saved lives of at least 3 chickens.

 

[pillionrider]

It's always funny to see Hindus who don't eat meat due to their religion try to get a moral high ground and claim that they don't do it because of some moral epiphany.

One should atleast have enough pride to admit that they are doing something because of their religion rather than try to spin it some other way and look 'cool.' We all know you'd be in line for a scrumptious juicy steak if it weren't forbidden by your religion

This this and more of this.

All the heroes out here who eat meat but don't eat beef are hypocrites of the worst order. One can at least respect a strict vegetarian.

 

[pillionrider]

Feeling great today. Stopped my cousin from ordering non veg and saved lives of at least 3 chickens.

Your cousin has some appetite.

 

[James]

It's always funny to see Hindus who don't eat meat due to their religion try to get a moral high ground and claim that they don't do it because of some moral epiphany.

One should atleast have enough pride to admit that they are doing something because of their religion rather than try to spin it some other way and look 'cool.' We all know you'd be in line for a scrumptious juicy steak if it weren't forbidden by your religion

What about the people who are vegetarians, but not for religious reasons?