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ISLAMABAD: Former cricketer Ramiz Raja is not impressed with the fitness level of Sindh batsmen Sharjeel Khan, Azam Khan and Ahsan Ali in the in the ongoing National Twenty20 (T20) Cup that is currently being played at the Multan Cricket Stadium in Multan.

While speaking on his YouTube channel, Raja expected the trio to be in better shape after a prolonged gap from cricket due to Covid-19 pandemic.

“Sharjeel, Azam and Ahsan have great potential but the disappointing part is their fitness. The domestic season started after such a long gap yet they have shown no improvement in their fitness. They need to understand that their career won’t move forward with their current fitness level because they will be badly exposed in international cricket against quality bowlers and also in the field. Even though they are natural timers of the ball but their footwork won’t be fast enough to cope against quality pace,” Raja said.

Earlier this week, Pakistan head coach-cum-chief selector Misbahul Haq echoed similar views regarding the fitness of left-hander Sharjeel.

“It is not possible that you are overweight 15 kilos and expect to become a part of the national team,” Misbah said on a local news channel.

“Everyone, including the likes of Sharjeel Khan, has been made aware of the policy at the time of the PSL. I have been very clear from the beginning that there can never be a compromise over fitness.”

“We have set a bar of fitness in the national team. It doesn’t matter if you are performing well or not but if you want to be a part of this group, you have to meet this standard or at the very least, have to come very close to the fitness level of other players,” he added.

https://dailytimes.com.pk/675001/ramiz-raja-flays-poor-fitness-level-of-sharjeel-and-azam/
 
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Please set the same standard for Haris Sohail.

For a start Haris doesn't look like a sumo wrestler like these guys. Furthermore his fielding is miles better then these guys and on top his batting is better then these guys by a country mile.
 
Please set the same standard for Haris Sohail.

Agreed.

If Rameez was commentating in the IPL I’m sure he would overlook some of the poor fitness standards of Players like Pant, Tiwary, Sharma, Uthappa, Watson, Hatymer, Chawla and even Shaw.

We can’t have one strict rule for us and not for others. I still don’t understand why Umar Akmal was persecuted for being Fat when he was always one of the safest boundary fielders we had.
 
Khurram Manzoor isnt in great shape as well. Atleast Azam Khan is trying and working hard as he has reduced 30 odd kgs this year.
 
For a start Haris doesn't look like a sumo wrestler like these guys. Furthermore his fielding is miles better then these guys and on top his batting is better then these guys by a country mile.

Forget how overweight he visibly is. Haris Sohail has documented medical issues with his knees, and cannot rotate strike in recent matches which is extremely worrying. Fielding would be a plus, but he can barely field. He has been struggling for runs anyway. So why should he be in the team?
 
Forget how overweight he visibly is. Haris Sohail has documented medical issues with his knees, and cannot rotate strike in recent matches which is extremely worrying. Fielding would be a plus, but he can barely field. He has been struggling for runs anyway. So why should he be in the team?

Silly Haris hasn't gone and replaced his knees yet. What is he even thinking trying to power through his God-given weakness.
 
Silly Haris hasn't gone and replaced his knees yet. What is he even thinking trying to power through his God-given weakness.

I respect him a lot for it but is this 32 year old really worth persisting with for 3 years until 2023 world cup? Think about it, and in your heart if you’re honest you will know the answer.
 
Sharjeel Khan and Azam Khan do not deserve to play any level of cricket. I don't care how long a ball they can hit. This is not the 1980s where you will have only one job in the team. Both of them are severe liabilities in the field and while running.


Would teams like England, India, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand field obese cricketers in this day and age?
 
Azam khan is a very swift mover. I have seen him trsin personally and his flexibility and agility is very impressive.
Not all of what you see with him is fat.
He has a lot of muscle mass, has a thick bone structure and also has some loose skin which makes him look chunky.
He probably only needs to lose another 5 kilos at the max.
 
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Azam khan is a very swift mover. I have seen him trsin personally and his flexibility and agility is very impressive.
Not all of what you see with him is fat.
He has a lot of muscle mass, has a thick bone structure and also has some loose skin which makes him look chunky.
He probably only needs to lose another 5 kilos at the max.

Agreed, he moves swiftly and runs quickly which are the important metrics. He can keep, which means he should also be a good fielder.

Like you said, 5-10 more kilos and he should be in good shape.
 
Someone whos career depends on losing some weight and cant do it is a liability to the team

I mean how difficult is it to eat less
 
Forget how overweight he visibly is. Haris Sohail has documented medical issues with his knees, and cannot rotate strike in recent matches which is extremely worrying. Fielding would be a plus, but he can barely field. He has been struggling for runs anyway. So why should he be in the team?
The only reason he was playing dot balls was because his team was down 3 wickets early yesterday and he was playing out Amir in the power-play. Anyways, that’s not his role, it’s to bat the middle-overs which he did well if you actually watched the match.

Out of the Top 10 run scorers in this tournament, Haris has the 5th most runs, and the LOWEST BOUNDARY % while batting at a SR of 143.

You seem to have an agenda against older players.
Trust me I want a young team too, but you need a few 30+ guys. As of now those guys are Imad, Haris and Fakhar. Stop being Junaids fgs lollll
 
Someone whos career depends on losing some weight and cant do it is a liability to the team

I mean how difficult is it to eat less

Not easy to eat less at all. Your body is used to a certain diet or nutrition intake.
 
The only reason he was playing dot balls was because his team was down 3 wickets early yesterday and he was playing out Amir in the power-play. Anyways, that’s not his role, it’s to bat the middle-overs which he did well if you actually watched the match.

Out of the Top 10 run scorers in this tournament, Haris has the 5th most runs, and the LOWEST BOUNDARY % while batting at a SR of 143.

You seem to have an agenda against older players.
Trust me I want a young team too, but you need a few 30+ guys. As of now those guys are Imad, Haris and Fakhar. Stop being Junaids fgs lollll

Let me put it this way. If the ODI world cup for tomorrow. Haris would make the team. He will even by my predicted top performer after Bobby. But it’s not, it’s 3 years from now. That’s the issue.

The agenda is with 35 year olds - even Miandad, Sangakkara, ABDV, Inzi couldn’t make it that far so why should we expect Haris Sohail to? If we think about 2023, we need to phase out ALL the players who won’t be in our 2023 squad.

Working backwards, we eliminate Haris Sohail, and people like Amir and Wahab. Now we need to plug these gaps, so that we have an energetic, fresh team in 2023 which has been developed for multiple years.

We cannot afford to waste Bobby’s peak, or Shadab’s peak, or Shaheen’s peak, just because some older geriatrics in the squad didn’t retire when they should have. 2023 is the best shot we have at winning a World Cup for the next 15 years at least.
 
Not easy to eat less at all. Your body is used to a certain diet or nutrition intake.

As a sportsman its your job to be of a certain weight

There should be a degree of control and self discipline

If you cant control what goes down your mouth how can you exercise self discipline and be the best you can in your chosen field?

Theres no excuse
 
Silly Haris hasn't gone and replaced his knees yet. What is he even thinking trying to power through his God-given weakness.

If he gets his knees replaced, his career as a player would be done.
With TKR(total knee replacement), you are not allowed to bend your knees totally. You are not allowed to kneel and sit with weight on the knees. Furthermore, the rehab is extensive and takes 6 months to go back to routine activities. Playing a physically exhausting sport like cricket is almost a NEVER after that.
Plus the only indication for knee replacement is pain hampering the daily activities and grade IV osteoarthritis or a grade IV knee joint injury. Haris doesn't have any.
He will need to get along with his career with what he has whatsoever.
He is a good enough batsman, places the ball well in gaps and on paper a good strike rotator. He needs to work on his throwing and catching technique to become a better fielder.
For his running and athletic ability, he needs core training.
 
During lockdown I lost 10kg, so if they need inspiration I am here to help.
 
During lockdown I lost 10kg, so if they need inspiration I am here to help.

I lost 12 kgs last year Its not difficult It requires dedication and self control

If sportmen cant do that with their food intake and how can you expect them to put the necessary hard yards in at the international level against the best other countries have to offer?

Your already putting yourself and your team at a disadvantage the moment you step on a field
 
Let me put it this way. If the ODI world cup for tomorrow. Haris would make the team. He will even by my predicted top performer after Bobby. But it’s not, it’s 3 years from now. That’s the issue.

The agenda is with 35 year olds - even Miandad, Sangakkara, ABDV, Inzi couldn’t make it that far so why should we expect Haris Sohail to? If we think about 2023, we need to phase out ALL the players who won’t be in our 2023 squad.

Working backwards, we eliminate Haris Sohail, and people like Amir and Wahab. Now we need to plug these gaps, so that we have an energetic, fresh team in 2023 which has been developed for multiple years.

We cannot afford to waste Bobby’s peak, or Shadab’s peak, or Shaheen’s peak, just because some older geriatrics in the squad didn’t retire when they should have. 2023 is the best shot we have at winning a World Cup for the next 15 years at least.

Bro how can you afford to leave out Amir? He's 28 ***. 2023 should be his last World Cup. He was one of the highest wicket takers at the last World Cup. Besides, apart from Naseem who else do you think is capable enough to replace Amir in the ODI squad? I don't see anyone unfortunately who is consistently performing enough to replace Amir in any format.
 
I lost 12 kgs last year Its not difficult It requires dedication and self control

If sportmen cant do that with their food intake and how can you expect them to put the necessary hard yards in at the international level against the best other countries have to offer?

Your already putting yourself and your team at a disadvantage the moment you step on a field

Exactly. In this day and age with all the guided expertise and advances in sports science, it's unacceptable for a full time sportsmen to be 10-15kg overweight and even worse unfit.

I know there are a tiny proportion of players who slightly overweight (like Rohit) but have maintained their fitness standards.

The sad reality is Inzamam has set a bad precedent and made it seem acceptable for cricketers to be ridiculously overweight and unfit as long as you can bat well.
 
Agreed, he moves swiftly and runs quickly which are the important metrics. He can keep, which means he should also be a good fielder.

Like you said, 5-10 more kilos and he should be in good shape.
5, not 10 kilos. We dont want him to lose his muscle which gives him his power.
You have to take into account that he has loose skin which accumulates water giving him a chunky look. Not all is fat as it may seem.
 
Agreed, he moves swiftly and runs quickly which are the important metrics. He can keep, which means he should also be a good fielder.

Like you said, 5-10 more kilos and he should be in good shape.


Being a keeper doesnt automatically mean your a good fielder :kakmal
 
Azam khan would struggle in the field but if he can keep well, then its not such a problem as we dont have a WK that can whack a quick 30 of 12 balls. Sharjeel has the attitude of Asif, he looks to be lost and besides eating, he doesnt do a lot.
 
Naming just 3-4 is not the right thing when there are atleast around 50% of them playing the tournament are without international sportsperson's fitness levels.

It just does not matter anymore if half of those playing are not in Pakistan's national side or will never make it but a professional attitude and fitness standards for sports professionals needs to be instilled from grassroots and to all the way through to the national teams and onwards.

Some here mentioning about Haris Sohail's fitness, he was someone along with Yasir Shah, I used to talk about and their fitness levels for sometime even before Haris was out with the knee problems for a year or two.

He is still in and around but has not lost much or actually does look the same as at times he does not move well in the field and neither between wickets which is due to not having the fitness required at the top level.
 
I don’t go on looks purely. Fitness must consist of rotating the strike and fielding which are the primary responsibilities. By this metric, Azam Khan is more fit than Haris Sohail.

Azam Khan LOL......the guy can't field inside the ring and prevent a double....forget single
 
Sharjeel Khan and Azam Khan do not deserve to play any level of cricket. I don't care how long a ball they can hit. This is not the 1980s where you will have only one job in the team. Both of them are severe liabilities in the field and while running.


Would teams like England, India, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand field obese cricketers in this day and age?

Rohit sharma plays for india?
 
If he gets his knees replaced, his career as a player would be done.
With TKR(total knee replacement), you are not allowed to bend your knees totally. You are not allowed to kneel and sit with weight on the knees. Furthermore, the rehab is extensive and takes 6 months to go back to routine activities. Playing a physically exhausting sport like cricket is almost a NEVER after that.
Plus the only indication for knee replacement is pain hampering the daily activities and grade IV osteoarthritis or a grade IV knee joint injury. Haris doesn't have any.
He will need to get along with his career with what he has whatsoever.
He is a good enough batsman, places the ball well in gaps and on paper a good strike rotator. He needs to work on his throwing and catching technique to become a better fielder.
For his running and athletic ability, he needs core training.
Sir there is a thing called sarcasm :afridi
 
Rohit sharma plays for india?

RS will run laps around Sharjeel and Azam on a racetrack and he is the chubbiest player in the Indian side.


I hope to God Sharjeel never makes it to the side, a big fat liability in the field and a spot fixer to boot. Wonderful package.
 
Sharjeel and azam khan may he fat or overweight and may not pass fitness test but talk about imad waseem yasir shah have they passed a fitness test
 
RS will run laps around Sharjeel and Azam on a racetrack and he is the chubbiest player in the Indian side.


I hope to God Sharjeel never makes it to the side, a big fat liability in the field and a spot fixer to boot. Wonderful package.

And you have seen rs runs around sharjeel and azam you do no the required fitnes levels for india is 17 and Pakistan's is 18
 
5, not 10 kilos. We dont want him to lose his muscle which gives him his power.
You have to take into account that he has loose skin which accumulates water giving him a chunky look. Not all is fat as it may seem.

Imran Nazir was as thin as a tree branch yet he could hit it farther than majority.
 
There are double standards in Pakistan cricket, but as far as i'm concerned i don't see what choice we have. Yasir Shah, Haris Sohail and Imad Wasim are all culprits when it comes to not sticking to fitness standards, but all three are also established cricketers who have already performed at the highest level for Pakistan.

The next generation is being held to a different standard but that is absolutely fine. We can draw the line in the sand now and say you won't get into the team without a certain level of fitness.

Azam Khan is clearly making improvement and looks like he will get there, so this approach from Misbah does appear to be working.
 
5, not 10 kilos. We dont want him to lose his muscle which gives him his power.
You have to take into account that he has loose skin which accumulates water giving him a chunky look. Not all is fat as it may seem.

Ah yes, the classic Umar Akmal "water" excuse.

Didn't think it had another advocate in Pakistan but there we go :))
 
End this fitness drama and bring back Sharjeel in the national team fgs.:facepalm

He had similar fitness when he was smacking sixes against Starc, Cummins, Hazelwood, Milne and Wood for fun. He is our cleanest striker of the ball, our best basher against pace and they are stuck with this fitness excuse with two T20 WCs just around the corner. As if rest of our cricketers are all Usain Bolts and Jahangir Khans.
 
Sharjeel Khan and Azam Khan do not deserve to play any level of cricket. I don't care how long a ball they can hit. This is not the 1980s where you will have only one job in the team. Both of them are severe liabilities in the field and while running.


Would teams like England, India, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand field obese cricketers in this day and age?

Spot on. These guys would not even be near domestic level in other countries. Yet in Pakistan they are considered international material!
 
It's worth talking about Sharjeel and Azam, given that the two have at least some amount of talent. Ahsan Ali, on the other hand, has clearly chosen the wrong profession. NOTHING about the guy tells you that he's a professional cricketer. Non-existent personality, shameful fitness at the age of 26 and no indication of talent (I still remember the shot he played to get out in his latest game for Pak :facepalm: ).
 
Bro how can you afford to leave out Amir? He's 28 ***. 2023 should be his last World Cup. He was one of the highest wicket takers at the last World Cup. Besides, apart from Naseem who else do you think is capable enough to replace Amir in the ODI squad? I don't see anyone unfortunately who is consistently performing enough to replace Amir in any format.

I haven’t left him out, the same way I haven’t left Haris Sohail out. Just see my 18-man squad list for 2023, I’ve listed several names next to Amir with Amir as the “first choice” from all of them.

But I am also planning ahead. Already in 2020 Amir is bowling gun barrel straight at 135kph and is getting injured every other game. So I don’t want to put all my eggs in one basket. If Allah na karay, Amir is finished as a bowler by the time he is “31”, and he isn’t even getting the swinging conditions of England anymore (in 2019 world cup, majority of his wickets were in the first half of the tournament) but rather India, I will actually need to develop a backup option like Naseem, Hasnain, or Hasan Ali.

Think about Waqar in 2000 vs 2003, or Shoaib in 2008 vs 2011. 3 years is a long time for a bowler who is already riddled with injuries and bodily strains.

The same argument goes for Haris Sohail - if he is still performing like a monster by 2023, he will be there. But my expectation (and my planning) will be for the case that he begins to decline as a batsman with his peak coming by the end of 2021.

So I plan ahead. In fact, I don’t see anyone else either who immediately replaces Amir, and this is an even BIGGER cause for alarm. We need to make quick decisions.
 
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There are double standards in Pakistan cricket, but as far as i'm concerned i don't see what choice we have. Yasir Shah, Haris Sohail and Imad Wasim are all culprits when it comes to not sticking to fitness standards, but all three are also established cricketers who have already performed at the highest level for Pakistan.

The next generation is being held to a different standard but that is absolutely fine. We can draw the line in the sand now and say you won't get into the team without a certain level of fitness.

Azam Khan is clearly making improvement and looks like he will get there, so this approach from Misbah does appear to be working.

The choice: develop the bench strength.
 
There are double standards in Pakistan cricket, but as far as i'm concerned i don't see what choice we have. Yasir Shah, Haris Sohail and Imad Wasim are all culprits when it comes to not sticking to fitness standards, but all three are also established cricketers who have already performed at the highest level for Pakistan.

The next generation is being held to a different standard but that is absolutely fine. We can draw the line in the sand now and say you won't get into the team without a certain level of fitness.

Azam Khan is clearly making improvement and looks like he will get there, so this approach from Misbah does appear to be working.

But yasir imad are stil playing we should drop them if they not fit enough and if they ain't dropped the likes of sharjeel and azam khan can play if they good enough
 
There are double standards in Pakistan cricket, but as far as i'm concerned i don't see what choice we have. Yasir Shah, Haris Sohail and Imad Wasim are all culprits when it comes to not sticking to fitness standards, but all three are also established cricketers who have already performed at the highest level for Pakistan.

The next generation is being held to a different standard but that is absolutely fine. We can draw the line in the sand now and say you won't get into the team without a certain level of fitness.

Azam Khan is clearly making improvement and looks like he will get there, so this approach from Misbah does appear to be working.

What is the problem with Yasir? He's one of the better fielders in the team and bowls like 40 overs a day. I don't see any problem there.

That said, I don't think Azam khan is as bad as he looks. He's quite good in the field and he has a different body type. Not everyone is supposed to look like Kohli. More importantly, he's working very hard on this aspect. Losing 30 kg is not easy. That is very encouraging.
 
Ah yes, the classic Umar Akmal "water" excuse.

Didn't think it had another advocate in Pakistan but there we go :))

How much do you know about biology the endocrine system; hormones and having lose skin after going through a massive weight loss?
Umar is just fat with no loose skin, and he didn't talk about water retention.
He talked about having a slow metabolism which meant even ingesting water make him gain fat, which is erroneous and showcases his ignorance.

Azam on the other hand was morbidly obese, has lost 30 kgs in a year, and most of his skin hangs as a result. The more skin cells you have, the more susceptible you are to holding water if your electrolytes are slightly imbalanced.

If you have ever competed in a bodybuilding show, and known a thing or two about how cutting water before a show and how tough/ easy it is based on your skin thickness, you wouldn't have spouted all that rubbish.
 
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How much do you know about biology the endocrine system; hormones and having lose skin after going through a massive weight loss?
Umar is just fat with no loose skin, and he didn't talk about water retention.
He talked about having a slow metabolism which meant even ingesting water make him gain fat, which is erroneous and showcases his ignorance.

Azam on the other hand was morbidly obese, has lost 30 kgs in a year, and most of his skin hangs as a result. The more skin cells you have, the more susceptible you are to holding water if your electrolytes are slightly imbalanced.

If you have ever competed in a bodybuilding show, and known a thing or two about how cutting water before a show and how tough/ easy it is based on your skin thickness, you wouldn't have spouted all that rubbish.

Excellent. People need to think a bit before running their mouths.
 
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Boards such as the ECB keep an eye on body fat content of players.

The PCB need to implement tighter protocols regarding fitness or this will continue to happen.

It seems in Pakistan if you can do a few yoyo runs, you are deemed an athlete.
 
Sharjeel Khan and Azam Khan do not deserve to play any level of cricket. I don't care how long a ball they can hit. This is not the 1980s where you will have only one job in the team. Both of them are severe liabilities in the field and while running.


Would teams like England, India, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand field obese cricketers in this day and age?

Have you seen Azam bat? Show me where he is slow between the wickets.
 
How much do you know about biology the endocrine system; hormones and having lose skin after going through a massive weight loss?
Umar is just fat with no loose skin, and he didn't talk about water retention.
He talked about having a slow metabolism which meant even ingesting water make him gain fat, which is erroneous and showcases his ignorance.

Azam on the other hand was morbidly obese, has lost 30 kgs in a year, and most of his skin hangs as a result. The more skin cells you have, the more susceptible you are to holding water if your electrolytes are slightly imbalanced.

If you have ever competed in a bodybuilding show, and known a thing or two about how cutting water before a show and how tough/ easy it is based on your skin thickness, you wouldn't have spouted all that rubbish.

+1
Being an Indian living abroad for 10 years i regularly get taunted by my colleagues (especially females) how embarrassing messages they receive from random desi folks. Common sense is not common.
 
I am talking through personal experience. When you have a bad back problem, it is a lot harder to exercise effectively ie to do cardio and weight train to achieve the ideal Physique.

A case in example is Hrithik Roshan. The guy has a severe back problem and he routinely gets badly out of shape in between films and when he needs to get into extreme ultimate shape for an action role. He needs to get into a workout diet regime for an entire year where he has an army of trainers helping him out in the gym early on before his body is able to deal with the weights, loads.

So severe is his back problem that he has to switch cars when on long drives. Do these players have back issues?

I have Sciatica therefore I know how hard it is and I find myself feeling better and more confident once I have put in atleast 3-4 months of consistent work in the gym which can at times be hard when you are working in the professional world for eg in accounting where you have busy seasons at work and when you also have professional exams to study for as well
 
For a start Haris doesn't look like a sumo wrestler like these guys. Furthermore his fielding is miles better then these guys and on top his batting is better then these guys by a country mile.

Haris is the most unfit player , probably among all the current FC cricketer in Pakistan. It does not matter whether he looks fat or not.
 
What is the problem with Yasir? He's one of the better fielders in the team and bowls like 40 overs a day. I don't see any problem there.

That said, I don't think Azam khan is as bad as he looks. He's quite good in the field and he has a different body type. Not everyone is supposed to look like Kohli. More importantly, he's working very hard on this aspect. Losing 30 kg is not easy. That is very encouraging.

Even Kohli has poor metabolism......what he did he reduced the fat and oil intake to zero......and did lot of exercises .....remember the Kohli of 2009 2010.....it's a blessing to have good metabolism rate like Dhawan Pandya but one should always look to improve ......but that said....if the X player is good enough to win us a match on his own eg Sharma Pant Shaw.....he is good enough to be in the final XI........So Sharjeel deserves his opening spot
 
Haris is the most unfit player , probably among all the current FC cricketer in Pakistan. It does not matter whether he looks fat or not.

Thats because of his long standing knee issues

He doesnt sit there eating paratha after paratha looking obese and then expect to be picked for the national team
 
Even Kohli has poor metabolism......what he did he reduced the fat and oil intake to zero......and did lot of exercises .....remember the Kohli of 2009 2010.....it's a blessing to have good metabolism rate like Dhawan Pandya but one should always look to improve ......but that said....if the X player is good enough to win us a match on his own eg Sharma Pant Shaw.....he is good enough to be in the final XI........So Sharjeel deserves his opening spot

Dude, where do all of you create this from? Like really?
No, he didn't reduce his fat intake to "0".
You cant function as a human being if you stop ingesting fat. All your organs, your brain, are made out of cholesterol and you need exogenous cholesterol to make them function properly.
If he stops eating any sort of fat, his testosterone levels will plummet to the level of a girl and he will lose all strength and virility, let alone be a world class athlete.
You guys really need to read up on this stuff before coming up with such false and ignorant claims. Any impressionable and ignorant dude who reads your comments and then starts practicing this so called diet would destroy himself.
 
Thats because of his long standing knee issues

He doesnt sit there eating paratha after paratha looking obese and then expect to be picked for the national team

Doesnt matter if he has failed a fitness test then he shouldn't be in the team weather he has knee issues or not.if he is in the team even thou hes failed a fitness test then other should be allowed to
 
Tbh there's a few more players besides these three that need to work on there fitness.

Azam to be fair has been working on his.
 
Doesnt matter if he has failed a fitness test then he shouldn't be in the team weather he has knee issues or not.if he is in the team even thou hes failed a fitness test then other should be allowed to

Where has he failed fitness tests?
 
There are more than just those mentioned by Ramiz.

In fact there are some international players who don't look fit and instead look overweight to me.
 
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unfair to bring Azam into this mix. The guy has been working hard on his fitness and he has the body physique of Caribbean players...don't hate the guy because he is bigger and stronger than our other players.
 
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Haris is the most unfit player , probably among all the current FC cricketer in Pakistan. It does not matter whether he looks fat or not.

Seems like you haven't seen the likes of irfan, sohail, sharjeel etc. Anyway you are a known Haris hater. Fit or unfit he's our second best batsmen after Babar which is a fact which may be hard for you to swallow. You should have watched him in the world Cup.
 
January he imad and yasir failed a fitnes test but then day later haris passed it with only slight improvement

But he did pass For me players should be passing fitness tests and fat tests

Theres no excuse no matter who you are or how good you are
 
But he did pass For me players should be passing fitness tests and fat tests

Theres no excuse no matter who you are or how good you are

Yes but we all know that thiers exceptions to the rule my point is that if someone is unfit the same rule should be with other players to even if they are talented but once a player is allowed in them other players should be allowed
 
Seems like you haven't seen the likes of irfan, sohail, sharjeel etc. Anyway you are a known Haris hater. Fit or unfit he's our second best batsmen after Babar which is a fact which may be hard for you to swallow. You should have watched him in the world Cup.

What a non-sense comment, some people have never heard a thing called " difference of opinion", the moment you disagree with them , you become a "hater"

Haris always had a fitness problem and I don't think he works hard on his fitness, looks like a lazy character, like Umar Akmal.
 
Perhaps a bit off topic, but I don't wanna create a separate thread. So how good was Ramiz at his peak as a player? He retired around the same time I started watching cricket. Sometimes stats doesn't capture the true worth of a player.
 
Perhaps a bit off topic, but I don't wanna create a separate thread. So how good was Ramiz at his peak as a player? He retired around the same time I started watching cricket. Sometimes stats doesn't capture the true worth of a player.

Ramiz himself as a cricket analyst is pretty mediocre if i'll be honest. I don't know much about his cricketing achievements other than he did play a hand in Pakistan winning the cup in 1992.

However, on this matter i can agree that these players need to improve their fitness before even being considered for selection.
 
Perhaps a bit off topic, but I don't wanna create a separate thread. So how good was Ramiz at his peak as a player? He retired around the same time I started watching cricket. Sometimes stats doesn't capture the true worth of a player.

Was a courageous player and this is why Imran stuck with him despite a very mediocre average. He was very good vs. fast bowling and one of the best leg side players. Key innings:

1. 60 vs. west indies in the benson and hedges 1985 mini world cup
2. 47 in second innings of the famous banglore test vs. india 1987 on a square turner
3. Performances in 1987 world cup.
4. performance in 1992 world cup and that 100 against New Zealand

In his younger years was quite a strong maker. He was however not as talented as his brother. Both had concentration issues and would throw their wicket away.

Another important point - clean image. While all were into match fixing he remained far away and no one could challenge that.
 
no comment :D

But yes as per what he told Afridi in T10, he would lose a good few kgs

Would love for him to be in the World Cup squad as his timing against express pace is just exceptional however he either needed to become super fit (which he clearly has not) or he needs to become the best opener in the PSL this season. Consistent runs at a high strike rate.

Lets see if he can force himself into contention.
 
Was a courageous player and this is why Imran stuck with him despite a very mediocre average. He was very good vs. fast bowling and one of the best leg side players. Key innings:

1. 60 vs. west indies in the benson and hedges 1985 mini world cup
2. 47 in second innings of the famous banglore test vs. india 1987 on a square turner
3. Performances in 1987 world cup.
4. performance in 1992 world cup and that 100 against New Zealand

In his younger years was quite a strong maker. He was however not as talented as his brother. Both had concentration issues and would throw their wicket away.

Another important point - clean image. While all were into match fixing he remained far away and no one could challenge that.

Agree with you 100%
Rameez was not as gifted as was Saleem Malik or Ramiz's brother Waseem and some others but would perform good under pressure situation, as you mentioned, hence IK liked him. Also , fitness standard in those days was poor but Ramiz was one of the fittest players around those days.
 
Sharjeel seems worse than ever. He has no shame whatsoever.

It’s not about shame, it’s about the desire to be better and ultimately be the best you can be. Imagine with Sharjeels talent, he had the same drive as someone like Kohli or Smith or Stokes. He could be at least as good as Anwar if not better.
 
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