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Rangana Herath - The Destroyer

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Is it illegal for a Pakistani to think Swann and Herath are better than Ajmal? Is it necessary for me to brown nose every Pakistani cricketer? Is it necessary for me to have a biased opinion like everyone else here?

If Ajmal would have been an Indian, Every single PPer now would have said Swann is better than Ajmal and we all know that.

You're on the wind up at least.
 
You're on the wind up at least.

Look it is an open forum and everyone here is supposed to provide his views and opinions. I see things the way I see and it say it.

I firmly believe in them however, I don't say I am 100% right all the time because I am not perfect. Nobody is and that is why I listen to what others have to say and respect their opinion but for some it is a very hard thing to do and if it winds them up, so be it.
 
MG even if Ajmal was an Israeli I would out him above Swann. And I'm a big fan of Swann.
 
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Since Murali's retirement, Herath's stats read 25 tests, 129 wickets@25 with 12 5-ers and 3 10-ers.

Has taken wickets everywhere, England, SA, Aus, UAE, WI..the most improved cricketer of recent times and a champion performer for the Lankans, perhaps their MVP right now.
 
Class bowler, one of the very best in Test cricket at the moment. Doesn't have the doosra, the carrom ball or the laddish charisma so gets way underrated, when in fact he may be more effective than any of the others
 
He's likely just averted an embarrassment for the Sri Lankans on home soil against Bangladesh, well done. Very underrated.
 
Why is he not mentioned alongside Ajmal and Swann? Seems unfair
 
Why is he not mentioned alongside Ajmal and Swann? Seems unfair

he didn't start off with a bang....first 25 tests...not as successful
no mystery/magic :ajmal
not many mouthpieces biggin' him up :bumble

haven't really had a high-profile PWNage as :ajmal had VS ENG (numero uno and super-cocky at that time)
 
Very good performance with a seven wicket haul in this innings and five in the previous innings. I dont think we would have won without his contribution.
 
Because we Sri Lankans are modest compared to English/Pakistanis. We don't hype up players for no reasons.

:)))

Swann and Ajmal are hyped with no reasons???

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I dont believe in rankings. They are not a true indicator of anything.

Plus I was talking about tests not ODIs.
 
Because we Sri Lankans are modest compared to English/Pakistanis. We don't hype up players for no reasons.

Ha ha so two of the world's top bowlers over the last few years are talked up 'for no reasons'
 
Ha ha so two of the world's top bowlers over the last few years are talked up 'for no reasons'

Swann is an average bowler...just look at his performance in Australia series. Against India he could not have done what he did without Panesar...plus Indians are now weak players of spin!

Ajmal is even worse. He has done nothing outside UAE and West Indies. Even now in South Africa he has been quite feeble whereas Herath win a game at Durban ground in the Sri Lanka tour.

I think Pakistani fans like ODI game more so they hype Ajmal up on those performances.
 
Very underrated test bowler. Plus has a superior average to :ajmal in SA and Australia, two of the toughest places to tour for a finger/wrist/sleeve spinner.
 
Very underrated test bowler. Plus has a superior average to :ajmal in SA and Australia, two of the toughest places to tour for a finger/wrist/sleeve spinner.

Yes although one is left hander and another is right hander in comparison Herath is much better than Saeed Ajmal!!
 
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Swann is an average bowler...just look at his performance in Australia series. Against India he could not have done what he did without Panesar...plus Indians are now weak players of spin!

Ajmal is even worse. He has done nothing outside UAE and West Indies. Even now in South Africa he has been quite feeble whereas Herath win a game at Durban ground in the Sri Lanka tour.

I think Pakistani fans like ODI game more so they hype Ajmal up on those performances.

Makes a lot of sense
 
Swann is an average bowler...just look at his performance in Australia series. Against India he could not have done what he did without Panesar...plus Indians are now weak players of spin!

Ajmal is even worse. He has done nothing outside UAE and West Indies. Even now in South Africa he has been quite feeble whereas Herath win a game at Durban ground in the Sri Lanka tour.

I think Pakistani fans like ODI game more so they hype Ajmal up on those performances.

:))) Absolute twaddle
 
Swann is an average bowler...just look at his performance in Australia series. Against India he could not have done what he did without Panesar...plus Indians are now weak players of spin!

Ajmal is even worse. He has done nothing outside UAE and West Indies. Even now in South Africa he has been quite feeble whereas Herath win a game at Durban ground in the Sri Lanka tour.

I think Pakistani fans like ODI game more so they hype Ajmal up on those performances.

Well said o0
 
:))) Absolute twaddle

According to stats.....

Swann..50 matches average 29.13
Herath..47 matches average 29.52

But we dont hype him that much...do you ever think why?

Also..

Herath in Australia...3 matches average 33.91
Swann in Australia...5 matches average 39.80
Herath in SA..3 matches average 27.70
Swann in SA,..4 matches average 31`.38
 
For Saeed Ajmal

Average in Australia...111.50
New Zealand 58.50
South Africa 33.18
Even in Zimbabwe 32.66

Not even worth discussing...
 
I don't understand why Sri Lanka didn't use Murali and Herath together in tests otherwise they wouldn't have lost any matches at home.
 
For both Swann and Ajmal in Sri Lanka...

Swann average 22.18
Ajmal average 30.00

Saeed Ajmal is a hyped spinner!!
 
For both Swann and Ajmal in Sri Lanka...

Swann average 22.18
Ajmal average 30.00

Saeed Ajmal is a hyped spinner!!

Funny thing is Herath averages:

31.76 against Pak
54 against India
43 against the WI

49 in Eng
34 in Aus
48 in Ind
40 in NZ
35 in UAE
(of course since the # of matches played in each country doesnt matter to you as you tried to play down Ajmal and Swanns performance's based off those stats).

Get off the high horse, all 3 spinners are class.

:)
 
Herath The Destroyer

For both Swann and Ajmal in Sri Lanka...

Swann average 22.18
Ajmal average 30.00

Saeed Ajmal is a hyped spinner!!

Cool down man. I would like to have all 3 in my playing XI in SC pitches.
 
Herrath in tests has been doing exactly what shakib did in the litte test matches he played. Both are really good bowlers though herath has great stats and shakib does not boast the best of stats because shakib hardly get to bowl in the 4th or 5th day BECAUSE we usually lose the match by then or have to follow on.
 
one of the best test spinner in the world right now along with Swann and Ajmal.

He is too good performed in almost every condition.. :14:
 
Funny thing is Herath averages:

31.76 against Pak
54 against India
43 against the WI

49 in Eng
34 in Aus
48 in Ind
40 in NZ
35 in UAE
(of course since the # of matches played in each country doesnt matter to you as you tried to play down Ajmal and Swanns performance's based off those stats).

Get off the high horse, all 3 spinners are class.

:)

Numbers can be misleading....Herath sometimes did not enjoy luxury of Sri Lanka batsman scoring runs to give him more time to take wickets.....
 
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Numbers can be misleading....Herath sometimes did not enjoy luxury of Sri Lanka batsman scoring runs to give him more time to take wickets.....

That doesn't quite make sense. Averages are based on how many wickets taken per runs conceded. If he can concede all those runs, surely he's had enough time.
 
That doesn't quite make sense. Averages are based on how many wickets taken per runs conceded. If he can concede all those runs, surely he's had enough time.

But those runs help in making lead for opposing team....because of small total set by Sri Lanka batsman....Herath is an unlucky bowler...the likes of Swann, Ajmal have stronger batting line-ups and give them more time before opposition team start leading...
 
lol Pakistan have a stronger batting line up. Give me a break, you have guys like Sangakarra and Jayawardene. Also not to forget your plethora of home track bullies.

Also what happened to being "modest"
 
lol Pakistan have a stronger batting line up. Give me a break, you have guys like Sangakarra and Jayawardene. Also not to forget your plethora of home track bullies.

Also what happened to being "modest"

In Sri Lanka we do not hype unnecessarily Herath like Pakistanis do with Ajmal even if he is averaging 100+ in Australia and 50+ in New Zealand and 30+ in South Africa and 30+ even in Zimbabwe also...

Ajmal is even worse than Swann. Herath is better than Swann...
 
In Sri Lanka we do not hype unnecessarily Herath like Pakistanis do with Ajmal even if he is averaging 100+ in Australia and 50+ in New Zealand and 30+ in South Africa and 30+ even in Zimbabwe also...

Ajmal is even worse than Swann. Herath is better than Swann...
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I don't know why flattering Herath is existentially linked with bashing Ajmal and/or Swann... Test cricket as a whole is so dull nowadays that it can afford more than one spin king, don't worry.
 
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That's just how we roll on PP. If you like Malik you must hate Younis. If you like Afridi you must hate Misbah. I could go on and on
 
I'm guessing that Seij here is either Herath himself or his hype-man :))
 
I'm a huge advocate of getting more Lankan posters on PP, but Seij - you're a joke.
 
Swann is an average bowler...just look at his performance in Australia series. Against India he could not have done what he did without Panesar...plus Indians are now weak players of spin!

Ajmal is even worse. He has done nothing outside UAE and West Indies. Even now in South Africa he has been quite feeble whereas Herath win a game at Durban ground in the Sri Lanka tour.

I think Pakistani fans like ODI game more so they hype Ajmal up on those performances.

You must be joking. All three of them are up on the current spinners' list. Personally, I'd put Swann right at the top, with Herath and Ajmal fighting it out for second place.
 
I'm a huge advocate of getting more Lankan posters on PP, but Seij - you're a joke.

you must be fan of Saeed Ajmal!! tell me honestly...if the 3-0 series vs england had not happened would you be hailing ajmal as hero??
 
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Yes. Because I take what other batsmen say about him more seriously than a Herath fanboy on an internet forum.

Nobody here is denying Herath skills. So why are you so insecure about Herath that you feel the need to have a go at Ajmal to justify your position.
 
you must be fan of Saeed Ajmal!! tell me honestly...if the 3-0 series vs england had not happened would you be hailing ajmal as hero??

that's as stupid question as "IF Herath wasn't avg. 27, would you still be hailing Herath as hero??"
 
that match is suspisious looking...even from the scorecard....it should have been drawn....

recently Ed Hawkins wrote in a book that it was fixed...

Damn, and I thought conspiracy theories were a Pakistan-thing only. I thought we were special :(
 
we drew the other two games at lords and rose bowl...but this one we couldnt and lost all wickets in two hours....we didnt even make english team bat again....somethint was wrong...
Hey Kid....the thing is we all love and respect Sri Lanka Cricket team. Troll like you give a bad name to your country. Have a pleasant stay in PP :)
 
But far the greatest bowling performance of all time in T20. Man 5 wickets for just two runs. Better than Mendis 6 vs the mighty Zimbabwe and guls 5 wickets vs saf

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Rangeela Herath is a legend, criminally underrated bowler.
 
Looks like age is catching up with Herath - can't see him lasting long.

If he was atleast fit, he could have continued. He's just let himself go like Malinga. Lanka have a big fitness problem with their star players.
 
The PP reverse jinx strikes again! A Michelle for Herath.
 
And he is back. Very happy for him although I'm delighted he didn't produce this kinda performance against us. :misbah
 
Absolute destruction. A fitting time to introduce my tribute to Herath. :herath

 
Our plan to attack Herath and not give him any wickets in the first 2 matches helped us win the series as that got him dropped from the last match. With him we would not have been able to score so many to win. As this match shows he still got it we just played him really well.


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Not bad for a part-time bank clerk.

Herath is underappreciated, but he bowled very accurately and exploited the conditions superbly. He's ideal for these situations where the pitch is turning, its Day 4/5 and there's a small total to defend.

We've been on receiving end before of a Herath special so glad it wasn't us this summer.
 
The best spin bowler in the world for many years now and has carried on the torch while Ajmal and Swann faded away. When he's bowling you just know something is going to happen.
 
Note to Marvan and co. This is why you don't drop the best bowler we have had since Murali. Especially at home and in a series decider. Form is temporary. Class is permanent.
 
Note to Marvan and co. This is why you don't drop the best bowler we have had since Murali. Especially at home and in a series decider. Form is temporary. Class is permanent.
I think it was the only way Pakistan played him in the first 2 matches that caused him to be dropped. So it was more of Pakistan successfully targeting him and that got him dropped was the wrong move in hindsight.

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I think it was the only way Pakistan played him in the first 2 matches that caused him to be dropped. So it was more of Pakistan successfully targeting him and that got him dropped was the wrong move in hindsight.

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He was coming back from a few injuries and niggles after the WC. So he was always going to be a bit rusty. In this game too didn't do much in the first innings (none for 60 odd after 30+ overs). Pak bats played him well but you never count out a champion. At worst he'll at least keep things tight. Besides it was very risky to ask a rookie spinner to spin the side to victory in a series decider. That was just a throw of the dice nothing else. Typical Marvan move.
 
He was coming back from a few injuries and niggles after the WC. So he was always going to be a bit rusty. In this game too didn't do much in the first innings (none for 60 odd after 30+ overs). Pak bats played him well but you never count out a champion. At worst he'll at least keep things tight. Besides it was very risky to ask a rookie spinner to spin the side to victory in a series decider. That was just a throw of the dice nothing else. Typical Marvan move.

He had 4,5 very poor tests prior to getting rested against Pakistan . Also as he told yesterday in his interview he had been experiencing sore knees . Resting him helped him and he came back strongly .

Personally I feel had he played the 3rd test he would not have been effective and knees would have got more sore . And could have been his last test .

Rest helped him improve his fitness as well as rhythm & form .
 
He had 4,5 very poor tests prior to getting rested against Pakistan . Also as he told yesterday in his interview he had been experiencing sore knees . Resting him helped him and he came back strongly .

Personally I feel had he played the 3rd test he would not have been effective and knees would have got more sore . And could have been his last test .

Rest helped him improve his fitness as well as rhythm & form .

He was sent home during the WC after splitting the webbing between his spin fingers. Plus had a few niggles as well I think. So had plenty of rest before the Pak series (3 month break).
 
He was sent home during the WC after splitting the webbing between his spin fingers. Plus had a few niggles as well I think. So had plenty of rest before the Pak series (3 month break).

He had sore knees after playing 2 tests against Pakistan .
 
Herath + Kaushal is the spin combo to go. Kaushal seemed very inaccurate but he seemed to have gotten his groove back. Prasad, Chaamera, Herath, Kaushal should be our main bowlers.
 
I hope all the other spinners are watching him bowl at test level. The guy exerts pressure on batsman, dead accurate and hard to guess whether the ball will turn or not.
 
Good comeback by herath as he was negated well when pakistan played him in last series and question marks were starting to be asked of whether he could still deliver as a bowler again and hes shown that he can.
 
Didn't think Herath had much more left in the tank but what a superb test match he's just had - 4/49 & 5/54.

His bowling average is now back under 30 (313 wickets @ 29.64).

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I LOVE Herath.

Remember, this isn't even peak Herath.

Peak Herath murdered Pakistan in SL in 2014.....and I doubt India and Pakistan would have won the series had Herath not regressed.
 
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