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Rank these Asian fast bowlers out of 10

Ab Fan

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Pakistan

Imran
Wasim
Waqar
Akhtar
Amir

India

Bumrah
Kapil
Shami
Zaheer
Srinath

Sri Lanka

Vaas
Malinga

Bangladesh

Mashrafe Mortaza

Discuss!
 
Imran 9.5
Wasim 9.5
Waqar 9
Akhtar 7.5
Amir 4

Bumrah 7
Kapil 8.5
Shami 7
Zaheer 8
Srinath 7.5

Vaas 7.5
Malinga 7

Mashrafe 5

Obviously it's skewed towards test performances and looks at an overall career. Thus, Bumrah and Shami will get more points before their careers end.
 
Imran - 9.5
Wasim - 9.5
Waqar - 8
Akhtar - 8
Amir - 7


Bumrah - 7
Kapil - 8
Shami - 6
Zaheer - 6
Srinath - 6.5


Vaas - 6.5
Malinga - 6


Mashrafe Mortaza - 1
 
Imran 10
Wasim 9
Waqar 9
Akhtar 8
Amir 7


Bumrah dunno, see if he lasts with that action
Kapil 8
Shami 7
Zaheer 7
Srinath 7


Vaas 7
Malinga 7


Mashrafe Mortaza - not seen him
 
Pakistan

Imran
Wasim
Waqar
Akhtar
Amir

India

Bumrah
Kapil
Shami
Zaheer
Srinath

Sri Lanka

Vaas
Malinga

Bangladesh

Mashrafe Mortaza

Discuss!

Imran 9
Wasim 8.5
Waqar 8
Shoaib 7
Amir 6

Bumrah 7
Kapil 7.5
Shami 7
Zaheer 6.5
Srinath 6.5

Vaas 7

Mailnga, Mortaza crap

Im marking pretty tough with importance on longevity
Marshall 9.75
McGrath, Hadlee, Steyn 9.5 for example
Curtly 9.25

Someone like Gillespie who was a top 3 fast bowler for 5 years only gets a 7.5 so marking hard
 
Bumrah is only 26, as a fast bowler that bowls at high pace we simply and sadly do not know how long he will be healthy and be effective.
 
Imran 9.5
Wasim 9.5
Waqar 9
Akhtar 7.5
Amir 4

Bumrah 7
Kapil 8.5
Shami 7
Zaheer 8
Srinath 7.5

Vaas 7.5
Malinga 7

Mashrafe 5

Obviously it's skewed towards test performances and looks at an overall career. Thus, Bumrah and Shami will get more points before their careers end.

Akhtar should definitely be higher than Zaheer and Srinath and equal or minutely less to Kapil. Amir 4 lol, you just taking dig on him and his fans.
 
I would give them a rating of:-

Imran 9.5
Wasim 9.5
Waqar 9
Akhtar 8
Amir 6

Bumrah 9( but still too early )
Kapil 8
Shami 7.5
Zaheer 7
Srinath 7

Vaas 7.5
Malinga 6

Mortaza ( Good ODI bowler actually, averages 41 in tests)
 
Akhtar should definitely be higher than Zaheer and Srinath and equal or minutely less to Kapil. Amir 4 lol, you just taking dig on him and his fans.

Srinath and Zaheer are definitely underrated on this forum. No chance that they had worse careers than Shoaib who couldn't even manage 50 test matches. Zaheer was instrumental in quite a few series wins for India and was a class bowler in limited overs cricket too. Srinath creditably carried the attack on his own away from India during the 90s. Shoaib was too unreliable for me.

Regarding Amir, he's squandered his talent and not even achieved a third of what he could have before being sent to prison. He's not even had as good a career as Mashrafe. I am not rating here on potential or misplaced talent, it's on actual performance and for me Amir has been pretty mediocre for the most part.
 
I would give them a rating of:-

Imran 9.5
Wasim 9.5
Waqar 9
Akhtar 8
Amir 6

Bumrah 9( but still too early )
Kapil 8
Shami 7.5
Zaheer 7
Srinath 7

Vaas 7.5
Malinga 6

Mortaza ( Good ODI bowler actually, averages 41 in tests)

Bumrah being rated equal to Waqar kinda makes a mockery of the whole exercise. Laughable.
 
Bumrah being rated equal to Waqar kinda makes a mockery of the whole exercise. Laughable.

It's too early to say but Bumrah does have got that start. A bowling average of 20 in test cricket with 5 5-fers in 14 test is unheard for an Indian pace bowler.

Didn't rated Bumrah equal to Waqar but Bumrah was rated on his potential and assuming that he maintains his form irrespective of the fact that he may have to change that action.

In ODIs, he is already up there though. An economy of 4.5 even though he literally bowls last 5 overs of the 40-50 overs most of the times for India is phenomenal in this era. It's equivalent to 3.5 in Waqar's era.
 
Pakistan

Imran 7
Wasim 8
Waqar 10
Akhtar 9
Amir 9

India

Bumrah 5
Kapil 3
Shami 6
Zaheer 6
Srinath 4

Sri Lanka

Vaas 8
Malinga 10

Bangladesh

Mashrafe Mortaza 5
 
Pakistan

Imran 9
Wasim 9.5
Waqar 8.5
Akhtar 8
Amir 6

India

Bumrah 7
Kapil 8
Shami 7
Zaheer 6.5
Srinath 7.5

Sri Lanka

Vaas 7.5
Malinga 6

Bangladesh

Mashrafe Mortaza 4
 
Pakistan

Imran
Wasim
Waqar
Akhtar
Amir

India

Bumrah
Kapil
Shami
Zaheer
Srinath

Sri Lanka

Vaas
Malinga

Bangladesh

Mashrafe Mortaza

Discuss!

Imran Khan - 10
Wasim Akram - 10
Waqar Younis - 9
Shoaib Akhtar - 7.5
Mohammad Amir - 6

Jasprit Bumrah - 7
Kapil Dev - 10
Mohammad Shami - 8
Zaheer Khan - 8.9
Javagal Srinath - 8.5

Chaminda Vaas - 8
Lasith Malinga - 8

Mashrafe Mortaza - 4
 
Pakistan

Imran 9.5
Wasim 10
Waqar 9
Akhtar 8
Amir 6

India
Bumrah 7 (Although as most people are saying he is at start of his career.)
Kapil 8
Shami 7
Zaheer 7
Srinath 7.5

Sri Lanka

Vaas 7
Malinga 7

Bangladesh

Mashrafe Mortaza 6.5

Yep, I am a bit angry at Amir :@
 
I've seen enough of Bumrah to put him on par with Akram and Imran, maybe even slightly higher. He has countless matchwinning spells for India.
 
Pakistan

Imran - 7
Wasim - 9
Waqar - 8
Akhtar - 5
Amir - 6

India

Bumrah - 7
Kapil - 7
Shami - 4
Zaheer - 6
Srinath - 7

Sri Lanka

Vaas - 7
Malinga - 6

Bangladesh

Mashrafe Mortaza - 4
 
Wasim - 9.5
Akhtar - 9
Shami - 9
Asif - 8.5
Imran - 8.5
Kapil - 8
Waqar - 8
Srinath - 7.5
Zaheer - 7
Malinga - 6
Bumrah - 6.5
Vaas - 6.5
Wahab - 6.5
Amir - 6
Mortaza - 6
 
Pakistan

Imran - 9
Wasim - 10
Waqar - 8
Akhtar - 8
Amir - 7

India

Bumrah - 8
Kapil - 8
Shami - 7
Zaheer - 6
Srinath - 6

Sri Lanka

Vaas - 7
Malinga - 8

Bangladesh

Mashrafe Mortaza - 6.
 
It's too early to say but Bumrah does have got that start. A bowling average of 20 in test cricket with 5 5-fers in 14 test is unheard for an Indian pace bowler.

Didn't rated Bumrah equal to Waqar but Bumrah was rated on his potential and assuming that he maintains his form irrespective of the fact that he may have to change that action.

In ODIs, he is already up there though. An economy of 4.5 even though he literally bowls last 5 overs of the 40-50 overs most of the times for India is phenomenal in this era. It's equivalent to 3.5 in Waqar's era.

He is not on track to take more than 300 test wickets, I might be proved wrong but at this stage I'd not be confident that he can play many test matches. I also fear that the number of tests played over the next few years will decrease markedly.

As a limited overs bowler, he is better than most that have played the game but again needs to prove it over a decade of performance.

Ranking on potential is just specious rubbish, the guy hasn't even played 20 test matches.
 
He is not on track to take more than 300 test wickets, I might be proved wrong but at this stage I'd not be confident that he can play many test matches. I also fear that the number of tests played over the next few years will decrease markedly.

As a limited overs bowler, he is better than most that have played the game but again needs to prove it over a decade of performance.

Ranking on potential is just specious rubbish, the guy hasn't even played 20 test matches.

I don't deny that but what will be your take on Shane Bond and Asif, the latter has only himself to blame for.
 
I don't deny that but what will be your take on Shane Bond and Asif, the latter has only himself to blame for.

Nowhere near all-time greats. They'd be on par with the likes of Ryan Harris, Ian Bishop, Colin Croft, Bruce Reid et al. None of them merit a score of 8 or above on their overall careers.
 
@Rana @mominsaigol

I rate pacers who excel with the new ball. Nothing pegs a batting lineup more than wickets up front.

1. Wasim
2. Imran
3. Shaheen (2019-22)
4. Asif
5. Amir

This is my top 5. I am only rating bowlers that I have watched or who retired few before I started watching (Imran). This is why I am not commenting on the likes of Sarfaraz Nawaz and Fazal.

Shaheen before his injury demonstrated the highest level of new ball bowling we have seen from a Pakistani bowler since Wasim. His spell vs India and Australia in Dubai in good batting conditions, as well as his knack of taking wickets in first over, is something we didn’t see from Amir and Asif in such conditions.

Those two were still superior than Waqar and Gul with new ball. Gul was bang average with the new ball who couldn’t swing the ball to save his life. The only movement that he would generate was hitting the seam.

As far as Waqar is concerned, he has had a huge impact on Pakistan cricket and his numbers are incredible but he greatly benefited from circumstances. He was a huge beneficiary of ball-tampering and he played in an era where almost every batting lineup would end after 5-6 wickets because the tailenders had no batting skill and most teams had WK who were barely better than today’s bowling all-rounders like Pat Cummins and Chris Woakes.

Had he played in the last 10-15 years, he would be barely better than guys like Rauf and Wahab who would also create havoc with the balls that Waqar bowled with and to the tailenders that he bowled to.
 
@Rana @mominsaigol

I rate pacers who excel with the new ball. Nothing pegs a batting lineup more than wickets up front.

1. Wasim
2. Imran
3. Shaheen (2019-22)
4. Asif
5. Amir

This is my top 5. I am only rating bowlers that I have watched or who retired few before I started watching (Imran). This is why I am not commenting on the likes of Sarfaraz Nawaz and Fazal.

Shaheen before his injury demonstrated the highest level of new ball bowling we have seen from a Pakistani bowler since Wasim. His spell vs India and Australia in Dubai in good batting conditions, as well as his knack of taking wickets in first over, is something we didn’t see from Amir and Asif in such conditions.

Those two were still superior than Waqar and Gul with new ball. Gul was bang average with the new ball who couldn’t swing the ball to save his life. The only movement that he would generate was hitting the seam.

As far as Waqar is concerned, he has had a huge impact on Pakistan cricket and his numbers are incredible but he greatly benefited from circumstances. He was a huge beneficiary of ball-tampering and he played in an era where almost every batting lineup would end after 5-6 wickets because the tailenders had no batting skill and most teams had WK who were barely better than today’s bowling all-rounders like Pat Cummins and Chris Woakes.

Had he played in the last 10-15 years, he would be barely better than guys like Rauf and Wahab who would also create havoc with the balls that Waqar bowled with and to the tailenders that he bowled to.
New ball is not the only metric to rate a pacer.

Prime shaheen is useless in the middle and death overs.

You just have to focus on surviving his Intial spell, To top ot off he was a good at bowling to right handers. To left handers he was good with the new ball but not as good.
 
Let me comment as I’m probably one of the few people to watch all of them.

1. Imran - 9.8
2. Wasim - 9.5
3. Waqar 9
4. Shoaib 8
5. Amir 6 (* if he carried on the trajectory before ban would have been 8.5-9)
6. Asif 5 (* if he carried on the trajectory before ban would be about 8.8

7. Kapil 7.5
8. Bumrah 7 (if he finishes his career with 300+ wickets) If not, then a 4
9. Zaheer 7.5
10. Srinath 7

Lol at anyone who mentioned Shaheen
 
Overall:-

1. Wasim
2. Imran
3. Waqar
4. Bumrah
5. Kapil

ODIs(since WC is the only thing that matters to some folks):-

1. Wasim
2. Shami
3. Bumrah
4. Kapil
5. Malinga
 
Pakistan

Imran - 8.5
Wasim - 10
Waqar - 9
Akhtar - 8
Amir - 8

India

Bumrah - 8
Kapil - 7
Shami - 7.5
Zaheer - 7.5
Srinath - 6.5

Sri Lanka

Vaas - 8.5
Malinga - 8

Bangladesh

Mashrafe Mortaza - 6.5
 
Pakistan

Imran -8.5
Wasim - 9.5
Waqar - 8
Akhtar - 7
Amir -3

India

Bumrah - 7.5( need to see how career will finish could be 9+ if continues at same trajectory)
Kapil - 7.5
Shami - 7 .5( need to see how career finish)
Zaheer - 6
Srinath - 6

Sri Lanka

Vaas - 7.5
Malinga 6

Bangladesh
Mortaza - 5
 
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