Best fast-bowlers from Asia in ODI history

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I can add Watson too.he was bowling 120s at start .after few years he became quite quick to reach 135 to 140

There a few others too
Bhuvi did it too. He touched 135 to 140. He was a trundler at the start.

Wayne parnell added pace as he got stronger and older. He used to trundle at 125 to 130. Then become 135 to 140 in t20 and odi too.

Matthew potts another one in recent times. Trundled at 125 to 130. Now touches 140 even in tests.

Mark wood added more pace after he got older. He used to bowl 135 to 145 and occasionally touch 150. Became an express bowler post age 30.

Nortje added pace too as he got older. He dint touch 150 frequently.
As he got stronger post age 26 bowls express.

Lot of players have added 5 to 10 kmph pace.

Hell bumrah wasn't fast initially. He got faster as he got stronger. At one point in Australia and for 2/3 years he was bowling 140 to 150 on average.

 

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Did I mention 2019 team????
I said 2023 team. They dismantled every team except india and Aussies fluked a win in the semis.


2015 and 2023 SA teams were gun teams. This guy momin reckons steyn was phhiinnnished in 2015. He averaged 21 that year.

Australia vs SA isn't a fluke, SA is a mentally shot team and their more Inconsiatent then anyone.

This is a team that lost to Nedtherlands and got battered by the weakest bowling attack(pakistan) in the tournament.

Their was never a guarantee that they'd be able to batter aussie bowling attack 2x in a row especially when Australia now have gotten use to the conditons whereas in group stages they didn't at the time.

 

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Australia vs SA isn't a fluke, SA is a mentally shot team and their more Inconsiatent then anyone.

This is a team that lost to Nedtherlands and got battered by the weakest bowling attack(pakistan) in the tournament.

Their was never a guarantee that they'd be able to batter aussie bowling attack 2x in a row especially when Australia now have gotten use to the conditons whereas in group stages they didn't at the time.

Bro that is t20
T20 takes skill out of the game. Any hack on his day can bury a top side.

That's why aus took ages to win a title in t20. It's not their forte. They excel and are kings of odi. Their favourite.

Aussie had the rub of green with better conditions which helped them in semis. If it were reversed you can bet Saa would have won too.

 

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Bro that is t20
T20 takes skill out of the game. Any hack on his day can bury a top side.

That's why aus took ages to win a title in t20. It's not their forte. They excel and are kings of odi. Their favourite.

Aussie had the rub of green with better conditions which helped them in semis. If it were reversed you can bet Saa would have won too.

Nedtherlands beat sa in odi in the world cup, Pakistan almost beat them and would have if the umpire gave it out. Winning against pakistan by 1 wicket was inexcusable considering every team besides Nedtherlands and Bangladesh murked that bowling attack black and blue.

Hasan Ali was a trundler at that point, Shaheen after asia cup is crap and to top it off had a broken finger, Haris Rauf is already someone who gets bashed but him opening the bowling g wasn't his fortei, Shadab and nawaz were hilarious and the worst bowlers of the tournament excluding Joe Root who isn't even a bowler lol, That's how bad they were, Usama mir was the best bowler for pakistan which shows how horrible their attack was lol.

They aren't consistent by any means.

 

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Australia vs SA isn't a fluke, SA is a mentally shot team and their more Inconsiatent then anyone.

This is a team that lost to Nedtherlands and got battered by the weakest bowling attack(pakistan) in the tournament.

Their was never a guarantee that they'd be able to batter aussie bowling attack 2x in a row especially when Australia now have gotten use to the conditons whereas in group stages they didn't at the time.

Bro that is t20
T20 takes skill out of the game. Any hack on his day can bury a top side.

That's why aus took ages to win a title in t20. It's not their forte.

Nedtherlands beat sa in odi in the world cup, Pakistan almost beat them and would have if the umpire gave it out. Winning against pakistan by 1 wicket was inexcusable considering every team besides Nedtherlands and Bangladesh murked that bowling attack black and blue.

Hasan Ali was a trundler at that point, Shaheen after asia cup is crap and to top it off had a broken finger, Haris Rauf is already someone who gets bashed but him opening the bowling g wasn't his fortei, Shadab and nawaz were hilarious and the worst bowlers of the tournament excluding Joe Root who isn't even a bowler lol, That's how bad they were, Usama mir was the best bowler for pakistan which shows how horrible their attack was lol.

They aren't consistent by any means.

But they still thrashed Australia in the group stages and nearly choked them in semis. 7 wins 2 losses. That is consistent enough. They finished second for God sake. Can't do much better than that.

This is as good as it gets.

 

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Bro that is t20
T20 takes skill out of the game. Any hack on his day can bury a top side.

That's why aus took ages to win a title in t20. It's not their forte.

But they still thrashed Australia in the group stages and nearly choked them in semis. 7 wins 2 losses. That is consistent enough. They finished second for God sake. Can't do much better than that.

This is as good as it gets.

Why do you keep bringing up t20? I dont even know what you're on about? Which game are you referring to? I'm referring to world cup only?

They bbattered ri lanka which even pakistani batters battered. If pakistan with their brittle lineup could chase 346, sa scoring 400+ against that attack is no biggie.

2023 Australia isn't strong. Idkw you keep forwarding this mantra same qith 2023 sa, Idkw you think these teams are strong all to push a weird narrative for bumrah. 2023 Australia is literally Travis head + cummins + Hazelwood or bust with a little support from zampa. The one exception is Maxwell who's needed for Afghanistan, and Travis head didn't even play that game, smith as of 2023 and onwards, Marcus stoinis in odi and starc are useless?

Australia won the world cup same reason India managed to win 2024, aka they happened to click at the right time in crucial stages despite having a brittle batting line up, 2023 Australia was the worst aussie team to ever play a final compared to their past self.

Nedtherlands beat them, And beating 2023 England isn't a biggie considering every team besides Jokster pakistan beat em. Bamgaldesh is once again and expected win. new Zealand lost all their big guns via injury against sa. The reason pakistan managed to beat them is because sodhi is a joke and fakhar feasted on him.

Their win vs Afghanistan wasn't convincing either.

Please stop with this narrative.

I can understand if someone was to claim that 2015 Australia is just as good as classic Australia and people are driving nostalgia bias, or that 2023 india's batting is just as good if not better then classic Indian batting.

But arguing that 2023 Australia is a powerful team and that 2023 SA is the strongest team in history is one of the worst claims I've ever seen. The gulf and gap is way way too high between the past and present. Same qith sri lanka, arguing their past self vs current self is hilarious

With the exception of Afghanistan in the modern era, Bangladesh during the 2011, 2016 and current 2024 era, England from 2016-2019, 2023 India every other side in this modern era is far weaker then their past selves.

2015 Australia is debatable although I think they'd lose a series to classic Australia in a tough 3-2 encounter.

 

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But they still thrashed Australia in the group stages and nearly choked them in semis. 7 wins 2 losses. That is consistent enough. They finished second for God sake. Can't do much better than that.

This is as good as it gets.

Group stages don't matter much.

Knockouts matter more.

Aussies are the best when it comes to knockouts. They were favorites to win the semi and they won.

 

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Why do you keep bringing up t20? I dont even know what you're on about? Which game are you referring to? I'm referring to world cup only?

They bbattered ri lanka which even pakistani batters battered. If pakistan with their brittle lineup could chase 346, sa scoring 400+ against that attack is no biggie.

2023 Australia isn't strong. Idkw you keep forwarding this mantra same qith 2023 sa, Idkw you think these teams are strong all to push a weird narrative for bumrah. 2023 Australia is literally Travis head + cummins + Hazelwood or bust with a little support from zampa. The one exception is Maxwell who's needed for Afghanistan, and Travis head didn't even play that game, smith as of 2023 and onwards, Marcus stoinis in odi and starc are useless?

Australia won the world cup same reason India managed to win 2024, aka they happened to click at the right time in crucial stages despite having a brittle batting line up, 2023 Australia was the worst aussie team to ever play a final compared to their past self.

Nedtherlands beat them, And beating 2023 England isn't a biggie considering every team besides Jokster pakistan beat em. Bamgaldesh is once again and expected win. new Zealand lost all their big guns via injury against sa. The reason pakistan managed to beat them is because sodhi is a joke and fakhar feasted on him.

Their win vs Afghanistan wasn't convincing either.

Please stop with this narrative.

I can understand if someone was to claim that 2015 Australia is just as good as classic Australia and people are driving nostalgia bias, or that 2023 india's batting is just as good if not better then classic Indian batting.

But arguing that 2023 Australia is a powerful team and that 2023 SA is the strongest team in history is one of the worst claims I've ever seen. The gulf and gap is way way too high between the past and present. Same qith sri lanka, arguing their past self vs current self is hilarious

With the exception of Afghanistan in the modern era, Bangladesh during the 2011, 2016 and current 2024 era, England from 2016-2019, 2023 India every other side in this modern era is far weaker then their past selves.

2015 Australia is debatable although I think they'd lose a series to classic Australia in a tough 3-2 encounter.

2015 was only good in flat bouncy pitches of Australia and SA. They did lose to India in 2014. Odi series.

They wouldn't have won outside sena conditions.

Classic Australia is the best team no doubt.

You are underestimating 2023 Australia.
They are a good side. There is a reason they are on a streak at the moment. All bowlers are in their prime barring starc.

Compared to 2015 where Mitch Johnson wasn't at his absolute peak. He retired right after 2015.

Virat is like 50 years old now. Rohit is old a f and eats vada pav mostly. This is far from peak india in 2023.
All washed up has beens in batting.

Pant dint play. He was injured. Pandya bumrah yes are in their peak in 2023. Shami too. We had rahul who is fodder. Dud cannon fodder. Utter trash bag. Pant was supposed to be the keeper but he was hurt.
And jadeja is like 37. Well past prime. This isn't anywhere close to peak india. Please stop.

But it's definitely still a top side.

England had a strong side in odi. They just are terrible in SC conditions. Nothing to do with peak to peak or prime to prime.

Classic Australia is the goat odi side. We know that though? Lol

Odi is their format.
But doesn't change the fact that other teams were all semi pro. Especially Asian sides back late 90s and early 2000.


But other teams like SA etc are definitely just as good as they were in 90s and 2000 era. If not better. England too. New Zealand as well.