Rank your top 5 greatest Indian overseas wins

[sharmaji]

Today was the greatest Indian victory in test matches that I saw in my lifetime.

 

[Pakhs]

Apart from first few times when they started winning series this is the biggest one. Its not as surprising as some people may think as this is not a one off India have been good visitors to Australia from some time since 2000s its only great Australian sides who stopped them from winning. Even they still drew few times against the best.

India's great batting line up meant they were always competitive on good true Australian wickets.

 

[Swashbuckler]

I had this same argument with my dad after Pant hit the winning runs. Though he is thrilled to bits, he refuses to rate this win even equal to our 1971 series wins in WI and Eng under Wadekar. Nostalgia speaking I guess.

 

[Ab Fan]

Wrong emoji man, disappointed

This one is universal. Its here to stay for atleast some time

 

[szrana007]

I had this same argument with my dad after Pant hit the winning runs. Though he is thrilled to bits, he refuses to rate this win even equal to our 1971 series wins in WI and Eng under Wadekar. Nostalgia speaking I guess.

Well you can't blame him Maiden series wins are always special, especially if you win against all odds like India did in Eng and WI in 1971.

 

[battler]

Cape Town 2011 vs Gabba 2021

As the euphoria of today's victory gradually sank in I started wondering which were the other memorable chases team India came close to achieving in the last decade and just fell short. And two of the obvious ones were Adelaide 2014 and Auckland 2014.
But there was another test in the memorable 2010/11 tour of South Africa and India needed 340 to win off the last day. We had our ATG line up at the peak of their powers. Sehwag, Gambhir, Dravid, Sachin, Laxman, Pujara and Dhoni. We pretty much dead batted the whole day and scored 166/3 in 82 overs and a chance of a series win went begging.
I refuse to believe an attack comprising of Steyn, Morkel, Tsotsobe and Paul Harris is more lethal than Cummins, Hazelwood, Starc and Lyon.
It would have been the first series win by an Asian team in SA.
Not blaming them for what they did but what this Indian team has done today has put them on another pedestal! Hugely gratifying as an Indian fan and cricket lover. Truly witnessing a generational shift in attitude and this will make all teams believe that 300+ targets can be achieved!
I'll conclude by saying one series win for India but one giant leap for test cricket!

 

[Ab Fan]

Updated rankings( from 2000s onwards):-

5. Headingley 2002
4. Adelaide 2003
3. Melbourne 2020
2. Perth 2008
1. Brisbane 2021

 

[Harsh Thakor]

These are in order of merit my choice.





1.Versus Australia at Adelaide in 2003-04.

2.Versus Pakistan at Rawalapindi in 2003-04

3,Versus West Indies at Trinidad in 1975-76

4.Versus West Indies at Trinidad in 1970-71

5.Versus Australia at Melbourne in 2018-2019

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Ones I have watched:

1. Gabba 2021
2. Melbourne 2020
3. Adelaide 2003
4. Durban 2010
5. Joberg 2018

Dunno about pre 1990 wins.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Ones I have watched:

1. Gabba 2021
2. Melbourne 2020
3. Adelaide 2003
4. Durban 2010
5. Joberg 2018

Dunno about pre 1990 wins.

Ok 4th is Perth 2008.

And 5th is Durban/Joberg one. Anything really. Both were equally good.

 

[Napa]

I had this same argument with my dad after Pant hit the winning runs. Though he is thrilled to bits, he refuses to rate this win even equal to our 1971 series wins in WI and Eng under Wadekar. Nostalgia speaking I guess.

In your dad's favor, back in the early 1970s, India hadn't won anything significant abroad, while now we expect much more from them.

 

[Yk313]

I had this same argument with my dad after Pant hit the winning runs. Though he is thrilled to bits, he refuses to rate this win even equal to our 1971 series wins in WI and Eng under Wadekar. Nostalgia speaking I guess.

It’s not just nostalgia. After a certain point statistical comparisons, comparing playing XIs listed on paper et cetera are all rendered moot.

There is only so much one can do to tray and translate and juxtapose performances in era A to that of era B, C et cetera using statistical arguments alone.

Put it like this, as I type this, there are threads on PP about some of the below topics (I have chosen the ones that came to mind readily):

1) Starc’s efficacy: the OP and posters have argued using statistics that Starc may not be the force he is portrayed to be:

Anyone who has seen decades of cricket should not need statistics and should not have done so even without the series in question. Lack of repeatability in efficacy (getting wickets in a repeatable manner) in how he goes about his business against top batsmen and has done so for some time now, him being dropped, him being underbowled even when it was reversing in comparison to Hazlewood/Cummins et cetera should have put most arguments to rest.

2) “ATG” Asian side or something:

Again, anyone who has followed any sport, vocation, academic discipline or anything else over multiple decades will know that comparing across eras holds about as much rigour as saying 2012 is going to be the end of the world. Too many variables to actually extrapolate and then that being done so with commentators who were born in 1990s, which means most would have not have been mindful of the intricacies of Test cricket until 2000s. An exercise in futility. Hell, if anyone is to compare it would be people who were old enough to watch all these decades in real time and lived to tell the tale, born no later than 1970.

Tennis (Serve & Volley versus Rally fest, Grass vs Hard Court) Formula 1 (V8, V10, Turbo-Hybrid/DRS) Cricket (umpires, bouncers, ball scratching, T20), Hockey (AstroTurf etc) are simple examples of the same with incessant arguments across eras/wins/achievements and the arguments keep becoming more and more ridiculos.

3) (apparently) how IND batsmen need to learn batting temperament from (none other than) PAK batsmen for overseas conditions:

I won’t comment much on this as this should be the most obvious amongst all, even including the cringe fest that is the “ATG” one. Think this one was most probably started before 2018-19 tour of AUS though. Which should suggest how quickly things change in the real world.

I will sign off this post with just one thing. The truly great players would have done quite well in either era. They always find a way.

 

[battler]

Ok 4th is Perth 2008.

And 5th is Durban/Joberg one. Anything really. Both were equally good.

I will put the Durban one above Joburg simply because it came when the series was alive. My ranking would be
Gabba 2021. Rest would keep the same.