Rashid Khan vs Shadab Khan

[Brilliance]

I am absolutely clueless as to why Shadab isn't using his googly more often off late. He is destructive while he mixes up his variations.

Rashid ahead atm.

 

[Muhammad10]

Rashid keeping his side in the game with a brilliant spell, as usual. Has Roston Chase, who bullied us throughout the last Test series, stumped.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Rashid definitely. Very impressive.

 

[Mainul]

Both Khans are 18 years of age.Both these neighbors bowls leg breaks and googlys.Both can bat.

One has debuted in international cricket one and a half years earlier than the other and has already earned some name and fame.The other is a fresh injection to cricket world,has brought a lot of promise with him,yet to prove himself.

The race and fight has begun.Who will win the race guys?

 

[ManFan]

Rashid is not 18.

 

[Railu Katta]

Rashid Khan is like 22-24. Anyone claiming that guy is 18 needs to get their head checked.

 

[Abdullah719]

Shadab got a Man of the Match award in his first CPL match but Rashid has been underwhelming so far.

 

[DRsohail]

Shadab got a Man of the Match award in his first CPL match but Rashid has been underwhelming so far.

i see nothing special in him so far in cpl....

 

[Rayyman]

I really don't like Rashid Khan. His arm is too high and bowls too quick for a leggie imo. Yes, he has done well in his career, but I prefer the classical leggies over these darters.

Great thing about Shadab is that he varies his pace, flight, etc.

 

[Pakistani_Legend]

Rashid is the oldest looking 18-year-old you will ever see. Pretty ordinary too.

 

[Asim_khan]

My first look at Rashid Khan, I was really impressed. Should've got a couple of wickets at the very least, and his extra pace is a help and not a hindrance imo, especially in this format. Looked better bowling at the right handers

 

[mak36]

I really don't like Rashid Khan. His arm is too high and bowls too quick for a leggie imo. Yes, he has done well in his career, but I prefer the classical leggies over these darters.

Great thing about Shadab is that he varies his pace, flight, etc.

Shadab looks a better bowler to me. He's shown he is a very intelligent bowler and he seems to have a more varied repertoire than Rashid. Yesterday, Gayle was picking Rashid's googly very easily and once Rashid lost that, he did not look threatening at all.

 

[The Googly]

There is no way that Rashid Khan is 18. Sorry but he's about 25.

And Shadab LOOKS the better bowler. Better action. More variety. More intelligent.

 

[mak36]

There is no way that Rashid Khan is 18. Sorry but he's about 25.

And Shadab LOOKS the better bowler. Better action. More variety. More intelligent.

Shadab's attitude and energy is also better- he comes across as very determined and seems really passionate every time he is on the field. You always think he is giving 110% which makes him a real asset. He also seems to have a presence about him- who knows, a future captain in the making?

Obviously it's early days and he still has work to do, but he is certainly ticking a lot of boxes.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Its like comparing Fizz with Amir.

 

[idrizzy]

Its like comparing Fizz with Amir.

Hit the nail on the head with this one.

 

[anonymous_guy]

Guyana Amazon Warriors (Rashid Khan) vs Trinbago Knight Riders (Shadab Khan).
Tomorrow in CPL, both upcoming leg-spinners on action against each other.

 

[Abdullah719]

Rashid still waiting for his first wicket in CPL while Shadab tops the charts.

 

[mak36]

Rashid still waiting for his first wicket in CPL while Shadab tops the charts.

How dare you bring facts to this discussion.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Lol 1st ball six to Rashid by Naraine !!!

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Seeing this bowler for the 1st time. He's so afraid to toss it up man !! Youre a wrist spinner uncle

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

Shadab hardly bowled well. Got lucky with a few of his wickets. All caught in the deep. Bowled quite a few wides and hardly turned the ball.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Shadab hardly bowled well. Got lucky with a few of his wickets. All caught in the deep. Bowled quite a few wides and hardly turned the ball.

Errr..... He got wickets, the stuff that actually helps a team win a cricket match.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

And....... After 12 complete overs across 3 innings Rashid Khan still hasn't managed to pick up a wicket !!

No wonder he represents a minnow international team

 

[Abdullah719]

No competition so far between the two.

However, Shadab has the likes of McCullum, Bravo and Narine on his team so he has the benefit of good support and leadership.

The most experienced players on Rashid's team are Guptill (captain) who I don't recall ever having a leadership role for NZ and..... the legend himself, Tanvir.

Either way, one has eight wickets and one has zero.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

No competition so far between the two.

However, Shadab has the likes of McCullum, Bravo and Narine on his team so he has the benefit of good support and leadership.

The most experienced players on Rashid's team are Guptill (captain) who I don't recall ever having a leadership role for NZ and..... the legend himself, Tanvir.

Either way, one has eight wickets and one has zero.

That's basically a 50% headstart he's having over Shadab there.

There should be no excuses for failure when you have THE PHENOM, of all people in your very corner.

 

[Abdullah719]

That's basically a 50% headstart he's having over Shadab there.

There should be no excuses for failure when you have THE PHENOM, of all people in your very corner.

Valid point, I should have taken that into consideration.

 

[KhalidRafi]

Rashid is a darter who would have been found out by now if he played for a bigger team. Also, I know what 18 year olds look like and that dude isn't 18.

Shadab on the other hand uses more natural variations and can produce sharp turn which makes him an especially good limited-overs bowler. Granted, he still needs some work in some areas but he's got great potential.

 

[mak36]

Shadab was finding it difficult to grip the ball yesterday due to dew. However he showed he was a thinking bowler and adjusted his game by bowling it quicker, and he still had enough variation to trouble the batsmen.

Rashid is naturally more of a darter so you would have thought the conditions would have suited him and yet didn't really do anything of note.

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

Rashid Khan today figures: 2 for 8 runs. Bowled really well and was difficult to play.

 

[Abdullah719]

Rashid Khan with a hat-trick. He's improved gradually in CPL.

Seems very reliant on googlies though.

He's now overtaken Shadab's wicket tally though he's played three more games.

 

[mak36]

Rashid Khan with a hat-trick. He's improved gradually in CPL.

Seems very reliant on googlies though.

He's now overtaken Shadab's wicket tally though he's played three more games.

Hat-trick is a great achievement, but I have to say it was largely the result of some atrocious batting. Three googlies in a row and all three batsmen bowled.

“Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times, shame on both of us.”

 

[Suleiman]

Rashid Khan is a 30 year old guy with a wife and kid on the way, in which planet is he a 19 year old?

You're comparing a kid to an experienced man. Shadab is class and will be cruising to 350+ wickets Insh'Allah by 30.

 

[nighthawk23]

Too many "expert" opinions on Rashid that aren't based on his on-field play. You guys act like his age has never been verified.

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

Hat-trick is a great achievement, but I have to say it was largely the result of some atrocious batting. Three googlies in a row and all three batsmen bowled.

“Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times, shame on both of us.”

Rashid Khan is a 30 year old guy with a wife and kid on the way, in which planet is he a 19 year old?

You're comparing a kid to an experienced man. Shadab is class and will be cruising to 350+ wickets Insh'Allah by 30.

 

[mak36]

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I can tell two things from your post:

1. You didn't bother reading my post properly and

2. You didn't watch the match.

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

I can tell two things from your post:

1. You didn't bother reading my post properly and

2. You didn't watch the match.

You are blaming the batsman to take away credit from the bowler? It was not the same batsman who was fooled 3 times, but 3 different players. And so what if he got hattrick with googlis? Would you be saying the same if someone got hattrick with 3 yorkers, outswingers etc.

Taking a hattrick is impressive and taking a hattrick were you bowl all 3 batsmen out is even more impressive.

 

[mak36]

You are blaming the batsman to take away credit from the bowler? It was not the same batsman who was fooled 3 times, but 3 different players. And so what if he got hattrick with googlis? Would you be saying the same if someone got hattrick with 3 yorkers, outswingers etc.

Taking a hattrick is impressive and taking a hattrick were you bowl all 3 batsmen out is even more impressive.

I see you did not address either of my two points. I can only assume you did not understand what I wrote, so I will try and explain in a way that you can understand.

1. If you had read my initial post properly, you will have seen I congratulated Rashid Khan on his hat-trick. I am not sure why you think I dislike RK- it is bordering on paranoia. There was no need to include me in your childish response given what I wrote was very reasonable and well explained. I accept other posters have written silly things but I am not responsible for their actions.

2. Again if you had actually watched the match, you would understand why I wrote what I did. Indeed, to back up my point something which happened between ball 2 and 3 should have meant the hat-trick was avoided. I will leave you to work out what it was as I have wasted enough time replying to you already.

Next time I suggest you give a little more thought to your comments- responding with a picture is a little silly if I am honest. Just remember, "It's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

 

[The_Odd_One]

Rashid Khan is a 30 year old guy with a wife and kid on the way, in which planet is he a 19 year old?

You're comparing a kid to an experienced man. Shadab is class and will be cruising to 350+ wickets Insh'Allah by 30.

No way does he even remotely look 19.

 

[DRsohail]

shadab is far bettervtgan that darter..don't forget sohail tsnvir had 5 wicket haul...don't be carried away by justbone hat trick

 

[Abdullah719]

Final stats at the CPL:

Shadab Khan - 8 innings, 32.0-1-184-12. Average 15.3, Economy 5.75
Rashid Khan - 12 innings, 46.4-1-272-14. Average 19.4, Economy 5.82

 

[Test champion]

lol just like Akmal vs Virat .rashid khan ahead by a long distance ,No.1 Odi and T20I Ranking
just today becoming the fastest player to take 100 ODI wickets, taking just 44 matches!

 

[pkckt]

lol just like Akmal vs Virat .rashid khan ahead by a long distance ,No.1 Odi and T20I Ranking
just today becoming the fastest player to take 100 ODI wickets, taking just 44 matches!

And how many of them against a team actually worth mentioning?

 

[Hasan123]

As a pure bowler, Rashid is better than Shadab.

 

[babajee]

As a pure bowler, Rashid is better than Shadab.

Rashid will fizzle out like the Fizz. Shadab has been almost as lethal against minnows as Rashid.

 

[Hasan123]

Rashid will fizzle out like the Fizz. Shadab has been almost as lethal against minnows as Rashid.

Can't say that until we have seen him against the top teams. In IPL against good players of spin, he has caused them problems.

 

[Test champion]

And how many of them against a team actually worth mentioning?

where shadab take wicket expect WI and SL?

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

Shadab stat are very poor except against the historically poor Sri Lanka.

 

[pkckt]

where shadab take wicket expect WI and SL?

Bagged a few in the CT and some against New Zealand aswell out of the <50 wickets he has taken across all formats

 

[babajee]

Can't say that until we have seen him against the top teams. In IPL against good players of spin, he has caused them problems.

Novelty factor

Fizz caused good players of pace problems in IPL

 

[Test champion]

Bagged a few in the CT and some against New Zealand aswell out of the <50 wickets he has taken across all formats

WC19 Clear all the view bcz they both play aganist big nation

 

[Hasan123]

Novelty factor

Fizz caused good players of pace problems in IPL

Fizz performed against India and South Africa as well. He's not as good as people thought but he's still a respectable bowler

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

Shadab should be compared to Mujeeb who is also quickly going past him in terms of performances with the ball.

 

[BlueDoritos]

Shadab should be compared to Mujeeb who is also quickly going past him in terms of performances with the ball.

Rashid and Mujeeb can't be compared to Shadab because Shadab has taken zero wickets against the likes of Ireland, Zimbabwe and other associate giants. Shadab is not fit to tie the shoe laces of Rashid and Mujeeb.

In fact Hasan Ali is inferior to Rashid and Mujeeb, in that regard, zero performance against associate Giants. Even Hasan can't hold a candle to Rashid and Mujeeb.

 

[Pakpak]

You can't really compare someone who's wicket hauls are against associates to someone who's taken wickets against the top nations.

Its like comparing a league 1 striker to a Premier League striker.

 

[saeed5646]

Lol if shadab do play the number of matches rashid played against assoicaite then there would have been not much difference b/w two
And also rashid have played 100 odis while shadab have just started his career
Lets see how both do in 2019 worldcup shadab was neck to neck with rashid in cpl last year

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

Lol if shadab do play the number of matches rashid played against assoicaite then there would have been not much difference b/w two
And also rashid have played 100 odis while shadab have just started his career
Lets see how both do in 2019 worldcup shadab was neck to neck with rashid in cpl last year

17 ODI vs 43 ODI

 

[Test champion]

Lol if shadab do play the number of matches rashid played against assoicaite then there would have been not much difference b/w two
And also rashid have played 100 odis while shadab have just started his career
Lets see how both do in 2019 worldcup shadab was neck to neck with rashid in cpl last year

how many wicket he take if u exclude WI and SL ??

 

[Adijazz1706]

Like comparing a championship player to harry kane )

 

[dhonixi]

Rashid is better in bowling. Shadab has a novelty factor in his googly which is getting noticed easily now since he is not big Turner like Rashid.

 

[Hiraeth]

Rashid will fizzle out like the Fizz. Shadab has been almost as lethal against minnows as Rashid.

Rashid won’t, he’s a genuine leg spinner. Imparts a lot of revs, good seam position and can spin it. Shadab gets like 85% of his wickets from bowling the googly.

Fizz was always going to get exposed because he lacked any sort of pace or skill apart from bowling a decent slower ball.

 

[rajimam]

So, now these two young boys are at the top of ICC T20I ranking.

 

[Spectrum]

Rashid Khan is already proven performer in Int. Cricket and has better variations.His achievements includes fastest 100 wkts, youngest ever ODI captain. He had a successful IPL as well.
Shadab Khan who??? For now Shadab at his best can be only compared with Mujeeb Zadran who is also better than Shadab with his variations and accuracy.
Rashid>>>>Mujeeb>>>>>>>>>>>Shadab Khan

 

[saeed5646]

Rashid Khan is already proven performer in Int. Cricket and has better variations.His achievements includes fastest 100 wkts, youngest ever ODI captain. He had a successful IPL as well.
Shadab Khan who??? For now Shadab at his best can be only compared with Mujeeb Zadran who is also better than Shadab with his variations and accuracy.
Rashid>>>>Mujeeb>>>>>>>>>>>Shadab Khan

So ipl is the bench mark to judge the player caliber than according to your logic sunil narine should be best t20 batsmen currently
Shadab is better batsmen what shadab have done in nz with the bat rashid can only dream of so overall shadab is better because he have played less number of matches against associate

 

[Titan24]

Rashid Khan is already proven performer in Int. Cricket and has better variations.His achievements includes fastest 100 wkts, youngest ever ODI captain. He had a successful IPL as well.
Shadab Khan who??? For now Shadab at his best can be only compared with Mujeeb Zadran who is also better than Shadab with his variations and accuracy.
Rashid>>>>Mujeeb>>>>>>>>>>>Shadab Khan

Lol! Yes IPL is the benchmark. Getting some poor batsmen out and hitting sixes to trundlers is equivalent to international cricket by some.

 

[Titan24]

Shadab has played in NZ, Eng, UAE, WI, PAK and has performed consistantly everywhere against every opposition.

Rashid is still to play handful number of matches against top ranked international sides so no comparison at all at the moment. We will get to know in 2 years time when Rashid will play against top oppositions.

 

[giri26]

Lol! Yes IPL is the benchmark. Getting some poor batsmen out and hitting sixes to trundlers is equivalent to international cricket by some.

Rashid Khan was excellent for Adelaide Strikers in BBL. He was probably the best spinner on view in this BBL season. So he has done it around the world in different leagues.

 

[saeed5646]

Rashid Khan was excellent for Adelaide Strikers in BBL. He was probably the best spinner on view in this BBL season. So he has done it around the world in different leagues.

What about shadab he was good also with heat

 

[giri26]

What about shadab he was good also with heat

He did not play the entire season. He was replaced by Yasir Shah who was decent but wasn't as good as Rashid. Anyways, no one is disputing the talent of Shadab, I was just responding to the post.

 

[Titan24]

Rashid Khan was excellent for Adelaide Strikers in BBL. He was probably the best spinner on view in this BBL season. So he has done it around the world in different leagues.

What I am trying to say is leagues are not the benchmark otherwise Alfonso Thomas, Yasir Arafat etc would have been world beaters in international cricket. Also a spinner getting Australian domestic players out is not something out of this world, even the ones in Aus national side struggle against spin.

I am yet to see Rashid vs the top international sides, before that happens no one can say he is better than Shadab.

 

[giri26]

What I am trying to say is leagues are not the benchmark otherwise Alfonso Thomas, Yasir Arafat etc would have been world beaters in international cricket. Also a spinner getting Australian domestic players out is not something out of this world, even the ones in Aus national side struggle against spin.

I am yet to see Rashid vs the top international sides, before that happens no one can say he is better than Shadab.

Both are in the same boat. Both are young and have a lot to prove. One cannot say that Shadab is better either based on one series against NZ. Rashid playing for Afghanistan will not get the same amount of opportunities as Shadab does, so he is disadvantaged in that regard.

 

[barah_admi]

Once Mr Rashid continuously plays against top class sides and continuously takes wickets, then we can talk about him being on the same level as Shadab, till then, kuhda hafeez.

 

[Deewana]

As a pure bowler rashid is better but as a complete package (batting bowling + Fielding) shaddy is miles better
So my pick would be shaddy
Shaddy would make the Asian XI alone for his Fielding

 

[Rayyman]

Rashid doing poorly now against India

 

[Kohli The King of Chase]

Shadab looks to be a better bowler, with higher ceiling, not to forget his batting.

Rashid will be useful for these leagues, and that is it.

 

[babajee]

ATG leggie after destroying BD, Zimbabwe and WI

 

[MMHS]

Shadab’s first Test went for 1/170 or so at almost 4, against the might of WIN & on a wicket where PAK made 82 on last innings - so, I guess Rashid deserves a bit more time before taken to the cleaners. He is bowling on Day 1 to the possible toughest opponents - Indian batsmen on Indian wickets, that too at Chinmuswami. He is still a brilliant leggi and he is breaking every sort of bowling records in LO - he’ll run through many teams in Test as well on a more even contest.

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

Shadab’s first Test went for 1/170 or so at almost 4, against the might of WIN & on a wicket where PAK made 82 on last innings - so, I guess Rashid deserves a bit more time before taken to the cleaners. He is bowling on Day 1 to the possible toughest opponents - Indian batsmen on Indian wickets, that too at Chinmuswami. He is still a brilliant leggi and he is breaking every sort of bowling records in LO - he’ll run through many teams in Test as well on a more even contest.

Finally a sensible post.

Haters came out of their caves. Give him at least 5-10 test before passing judgement.

 

[jnaveen1980]

It is ridiculous to write an obituary to his test career. He will have great days ahead in the Test.

 

[Bleedgreen4ever]

Shadab's batting alone makes him ten times better than Rashid

I believe in world cricket apart from Stokes there is no better AR than Shaddy