Ravindra Jadeja - Second fastest to get 300 wickets and 4000 runs in Test cricket

[Buffet]

One time, he was seen only as a white ball cricketer and now he is second fastest to reach 300 test wickets and 3000 runs.

Between Botham and IK, not a bad company.

A genuine test all rounder and an ATG.

With Ashwin and Jadeja, Indian team had an unfair advantage.


Players with 300 wickets and 3000 runs.

 

[Josh]

Fantastic achievement! What an asset he has been for team India for a number of years. He would get picked in any current world test XI

 

[ElRaja]

underrated legend, with his fielding hes an ATG all rounder in asian conditions. replacing him and ashwin will be impossible for india.

 

[sweep_shot]

He has come a long way.

I remember he used to get trolled when he was new to the scene. He used to be called "Sir Ravindra Jadeja".

 

[RyanRyan10]

He has come a long way.

I remember he used to get trolled when he was new to the scene. He used to be called "Sir Ravindra Jadeja".

Dhoni had started that thing

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Underrated player. Genuinely blessed in all facets and seems like quite a chill guy too.

 

[Buffet]

underrated legend, with his fielding hes an ATG all rounder in asian conditions. replacing him and ashwin will be impossible for india.

Yah, combine his bat, ball with fielding... very few players are that good a fielder.

 

[sweep_shot]

I think Jadeja is definitely an Indian ATG. Not sure about global ATG; that's debatable since he is mostly dominant in Asian conditions.

 

[ElRaja]

Yah, combine his bat, ball with fielding... very few players are that good a fielder.

just realised him, ashwin, sharma and kohli are all about 36, 37. a lot of responsibility will end up falling on Pant, and also surprised sarfraz khan didnt get a go given india will pbly start thinking of transition sometime soon.

 

[Buffet]

just realised him, ashwin, sharma and kohli are all about 36, 37. a lot of responsibility will end up falling on Pant, and also surprised sarfraz khan didnt get a go given india will pbly start thinking of transition sometime soon.

Yes, you are correct. 4-5 players are going to retire around the same time and I think Indians will have issue in transition.

 

[Devadwal]

His batting is massive improve in test cricket from last 4-5 year's.

 

[Buffet]

His batting is massive improve in test cricket from last 4-5 year's.

Much longer than 4-5 years.

Since 2016 ( Almost 9 years )

58 tests: Batting avg 41 ( 4 tons and 20 half-tons) , Bowling avg 23

 

[Buffet]

With limited oppurtunities, he has not done bad in many away venues. He was intrumental in wining test series in Aus.

Bolwing Avg,

Aus - 21
SA - 25
WI - 21

Two poor venues are Eng and NZ. Not that he is in league of Murali or Warne, but even they had many poor venues. Murali was thrashed in Ind and Aus. Warne was thrashed in WI and Ind.

 

[Ab Fan]

He is a terrific test cricketer and has superb record at home, especially vs Australia and his away record is also good but now he would like to have 1-2 standout performances away from home than just being a supporting cast. If he delivers that, he should be undisputed test ATG.

 

[Devadwal]

Much longer than 4-5 years.

Since 2016 ( Almost 9 years )

58 tests: Batting avg 41 ( 4 tons and 20 half-tons) , Bowling avg 23

Wow that's great average for a allrounders and most of his runs are very valuable ,no stat padding at all.

 

[jnaveen1980]

He is a terrific test cricketer and has superb record at home, especially vs Australia and his away record is also good but now he would like to have 1-2 standout performances away from home than just being a supporting cast. If he delivers that, he should be undisputed test ATG.

We have to stop emphasizing on "away from home" for this unit. No team is going to give a pitch that is remotely suitable for Indian spinners. That is why India has been operating with 4 seamers and 1 spinner as support role. So his role is a reduced role. His batting overseas is more important than his bowling. This filter has no meaning given this dynamics. Also we have not played enough in country like NZ.

 

[AMSS]

As good as Jaddu has been, I think he has underachieved as a batter given his talent. Should have been averaging in 40s.

 

[Bhaijaan]

In my lifetime he will be remembered as the cricketer who had the most remarkable transformation.

Those who remember young Jaddu, without facial hair, his first disastrous T20 campaign no what im talking about.

Credit to Dhoni for persisting with him.

 

[jaisan]

Disastrous t20 campaigh because dhoni sent him ahead of yuvraj .

 

[Buffet]

“I get annoyed by Jadeja on the field just because he’s a very good player. He always finds a way to get in the battle, whether it’s scoring runs, taking wickets, or making a great catch. It can be annoying at times, but he’s a very good player.” -- Steve Smith


Josh Hazlewood also backed Smith’s choice and said, “Probably Jadeja again.” Notably, in 17 Tests that he has played against Australia, Jadeja has scored 570 runs in 23 innings at an average of 28.50 with five fifties and best score of 81.

In Australia, he has scored 175 runs in five innings at an average of 43.75 with two fifties. Jadeja has scalped a total of 89 wickets against Australia in Tests with 14 of them coming in Australia.

Steve Smith names the Indian player he gets most annoyed by and it's not Rishabh Pant

Ahead of the Border-Gavaskar Trophy 2024-25, Australia's star batter Steve Smith picked all-rounder Ravindra Jadeja as the most annoying player in the Indian team.

thesportstak.com

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He has 500+ runs and 89 wickets against the best opposition of his era. All around contribution not just in India but in Aus to help win test series.

 

[FearlessRoar]

In 47 Tests at home, this is only the fourth time Ravindra Jadeja has been dismissed in single digits in both innings

0 & 5 vs NZ in Bengaluru, 2024
4 & 7 vs AUS in Indore, 2023
3 & 2 vs AUS in Bengaluru, 2017
2 & 3 vs AUS in Pune, 2017

 

[Ab Fan]

The best test all rounder of this generation revives himself.
Bowl avg - 23.xx
Bat avg - 35.xx

 

[FearlessRoar]

Most wickets for India in Tests

619 - Anil Kumble (236 Innings)
533 - Ravichandran Ashwin (198 Innings)
434 - Kapil Dev (227 Innings)
417 - Harbhajan Singh (190 Innings)
314 - Ravindra Jadeja (145 Innings)
311 - Zaheer Khan (165 Innings)
311 - Ishant Sharma (188 Innings)

 

[Ab Fan]

Top 10 Indian test cricketers of all-time:-

Sachin Tendulkar
Sunil Gavaskar
Rahul Dravid
Ravichandran Ashwin
Kapil Dev
Virender Sehwag
Ravindra Jadeja
Virat kohli
Jasprit Bumrah
Anil Kumble

Honourable mention - Laxman, Ganguly, Hazare, Merchant etc.

 

[Ab Fan]

Top 10 Indian test cricketers of all-time:-

Sachin Tendulkar
Sunil Gavaskar
Rahul Dravid
Ravichandran Ashwin
Kapil Dev
Virender Sehwag
Ravindra Jadeja
Virat kohli
Jasprit Bumrah
Anil Kumble

Honourable mention - Laxman, Ganguly, Hazare, Merchant etc.

Out of this top 10, top 5 are undisputed ATGs.

Sehwag, Kohli and Jadeja are country greats with Jadeja likely to go a notch above. Bumrah in a couple of years time will be in top 5 too.

 

[mominsaigol]

Top 10 Indian test cricketers of all-time:-

Sachin Tendulkar
Sunil Gavaskar
Rahul Dravid
Ravichandran Ashwin
Kapil Dev
Virender Sehwag
Ravindra Jadeja
Virat kohli
Jasprit Bumrah
Anil Kumble

Honourable mention - Laxman, Ganguly, Hazare, Merchant etc.

Allah ho Akbar.

Ashwin top 10 Indian cricketers of all time? Hahahahahahahahaha.

Here let me fix the list (list isn't in order, just top 10 in random placements)

1) Sachin
2) Sunny
3) Kapil Dev
4) Rahul Dravid
5) Sehwag
6) Ganguly
7) Kohli
8) Yuvraj Singh
9) Bumrah
10) Dhoni (A bit overrated but his captaincy and wicketkeeping skills put him here)

Honrable mentions would include the likes of Ghambir, Dhawan( Hugely underrated) and amoung others.

Kumble, jadeja and Ashwin are rubbish. Jadeja less so, but jadeja is overrated. He's not a bad player tbf.

 

[Ab Fan]

Allah ho Akbar.

Ashwin top 10 Indian cricketers of all time? Hahahahahahahahaha.

Here let me fix the list (list isn't in order, just top 10 in random placements)

1) Sachin
2) Sunny
3) Kapil Dev
4) Rahul Dravid
5) Sehwag
6) Ganguly
7) Kohli
8) Yuvraj Singh
9) Bumrah
10) Dhoni (A bit overrated but his captaincy and wicketkeeping skills put him here)

Honrable mentions would include the likes of Ghambir, Dhawan( Hugely underrated) and amoung others.

Kumble, jadeja and Ashwin are rubbish. Jadeja less so, but jadeja is overrated. He's not a bad player tbf.

Rofl

This guy just exposed himself as Australian pretender by naming white ball specialists in a test cricketers list

 

[mominsaigol]

Rofl

This guy just exposed himself as Australian pretender by naming white ball specialists in a test cricketers list

I misread, it's genuinely my bad, cause I didn't read the test cricketer part. I thought the list was top 10 Indian cricketers meaning all formats.

No need to gloat about it. I'll still give you the test cricket list. If you still want it

 

[mominsaigol]

I misread, it's genuinely my bad, cause I didn't read the test cricketer part. I thought the list was top 10 Indian cricketers meaning all formats.

No need to gloat about it. I'll still give you the test cricket list. If you still want it

@Ab Fan

Top 6 Indian Test Cricketers

1) Sachin
2) Dravid
3) Sunny
4) Sehwag
5) Ganguly
6) Kapil Dev

That's it unfortunately. India has never produced any good test cricketer beyond these 6.

Ashwin, Kohli, Jadeja, Kumble all suck in test cricket. Medicore frauds.

 

[Ab Fan]

I misread, it's genuinely my bad, cause I didn't read the test cricketer part. I thought the list was top 10 Indian cricketers meaning all formats.

No need to gloat about it. I'll still give you the test cricket list. If you still want it

Yeah, it indeed is. As usual, an absolutely comical list

 

[sweep_shot]

@Ab Fan

Top 6 Indian Test Cricketers

1) Sachin
2) Dravid
3) Sunny
4) Sehwag
5) Ganguly
6) Kapil Dev

That's it unfortunately. India has never produced any good test cricketer beyond these 6.

Ashwin, Kohli, Jadeja, Kumble all suck in test cricket. Medicore frauds.

I agree with 5 out of 6. I think Ganguly shouldn't be there.

 

[mominsaigol]

Yeah, it indeed is. As usual, an absolutely comical list showing your age and credibility as a poster in this forum.

You've yet to explain that 49 avg in sa

 

[mominsaigol]

Rubbish list. Go and educate yourself first. Can’t even spell “mediocre” lol.

Educate me on 49 avg in sa

 

[SportsWarrior]

Top 10 Indian test cricketers of all-time:-

Sachin Tendulkar
Sunil Gavaskar
Rahul Dravid
Ravichandran Ashwin
Kapil Dev
Virender Sehwag
Ravindra Jadeja
Virat kohli
Jasprit Bumrah
Anil Kumble

Honourable mention - Laxman, Ganguly, Hazare, Merchant etc.

agreed. If winning the matches is the metrics, as it should be, then Ashwin should be top and Jadeja should be above Rahul.

 

[SportsWarrior]

@Ab Fan

Top 6 Indian Test Cricketers

1) Sachin
2) Dravid
3) Sunny
4) Sehwag
5) Ganguly
6) Kapil Dev

That's it unfortunately. India has never produced any good test cricketer beyond these 6.

Ashwin, Kohli, Jadeja, Kumble all suck in test cricket. Medicore frauds.

lol, Ashwin, who has won the highest Man of the series awards in the last decade is somehow nonsense.

 

[Bewal Express]

A good cricketer but the stats a very flattering

 

[Human786]

terrific & a GUN fielder

 

[Ab Fan]

lol, Ashwin, who has won the highest Man of the series awards in the last decade is somehow nonsense.

I mentioned in another thread that Ashwin is among top 40 test cricketers of all time and this guy is insulting Ashwin in every thread by calling him rubbish cricketer.

There are only a handful of 5-6 cricketers with all round record as good as Ashwin and he has done well with bat too alongwith his phenomenal match winning ability and here we have this troll putting the likes of Gambhir, Dhawan and even the mediocre Shoaib Akhtar who has a total of 170 test wickets lol as better cricketer than Ashwin.

 

[mominsaigol]

lol, Ashwin, who has won the highest Man of the series awards in the last decade is somehow nonsense.

Yes cause he's a total fraud. Rubbish spinners like Anil kumble have 600 wickets on doctored Indian pitches.

Ashwin doesn't have any 5 wicket hauls in SENA and his record in sa ans Aus is so laughable that even Bcci drops this Rubbish to avoid exposing him.

 

[mominsaigol]

I mentioned in another thread that Ashwin is among top 40 test cricketers of all time and this guy is insulting Ashwin in every thread by calling him rubbish cricketer.

There are only a handful of 5-6 cricketers with all round record as good as Ashwin and he has done well with bat too alongwith his phenomenal match winning ability and here we have this troll putting the likes of Gambhir, Dhawan and even the mediocre Shoaib Akhtar who has a total of 170 test wickets lol as better cricketer than Ashwin.

Explain that 49 Sa avg first.

 

[mominsaigol]

I agree with 5 out of 6. I think Ganguly shouldn't be there.

It's debatable but i more or less agree. But tell this to Indian posters, who believe every Tom dick and Harry is an atg

 

[sweep_shot]

It's debatable but i more or less agree. But tell this to Indian posters, who believe every Tom dick and Harry is an atg

Yeah. For sure.

They overrate their players a lot. The term "ATG" gets thrown around very easily nowadays.

 

[SportsWarrior]

Yes cause he's a total fraud. Rubbish spinners like Anil kumble have 600 wickets on doctored Indian pitches.

Ashwin doesn't have any 5 wicket hauls in SENA and his record in sa ans Aus is so laughable that even Bcci drops this Rubbish to avoid exposing him.

trolls don't deserve feeding. so this is my last response to you on this topic..

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Ravindra Jadeja said after opening day’s play in the third Test:

“Firstly, I had this fear… personally I had thought that I won’t lose a series in India as long as I am playing. But that too has happened,"

“We won 18 series (at home), I thought as long as I am playing Test cricket in India we won’t lose a series but that has happened, so I am not surprised with anything (that is happening),"

“We have set the expectations really high. Since last 12 years we did not lose a single series. I think we have lost a total of five Test matches in which I played.

“I think this is a good achievement but when you set such high expectations and lose a series, it stands out and that is what is happening."

“When we win, we lift the trophy together. Now that we have lost the series, all 15 in the team will take the blame collectively,"

 

[Ab Fan]

Explain that 49 Sa avg first.

Those were completely seamers paradise.

Do you know Murali’s average in Australia? 73 and his average in India? 40+. Spinners bowl long spells and their numbers can go bad in specific countries.

Only if you understand ABC of cricket, you won’t have asked such absurd questions. No more troll feeding from my side though. You can stay happy with the mediocrity that Pakistan is producing from last 20 years.

 

[mominsaigol]

Those were completely seamers paradise.

Do you know Murali’s average in Australia? 73 and his average in India? 40+. Spinners bowl long spells and their numbers can go bad in specific countries.

Only if you understand ABC of cricket, you won’t have asked such absurd questions. No more troll feeding from my side though. You can stay happy with the mediocrity that Pakistan is producing from last 20 years.

I'm an aussie fan, I only care about Lyon being >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashwin

 

[JaDed]

@Ab Fan

Top 6 Indian Test Cricketers

1) Sachin
2) Dravid
3) Sunny
4) Sehwag
5) Ganguly
6) Kapil Dev

That's it unfortunately. India has never produced any good test cricketer beyond these 6.

Ashwin, Kohli, Jadeja, Kumble all suck in test cricket. Medicore frauds.

Lol we can assume then Root is a mediocre in your opinion.

 

[mominsaigol]

Lol we can assume then Root is a mediocre fraud in your opinion.

Root isn't medicore and he isn't a fraud but he is overrated. Difference between root and ashwin is that root is actually a good batter and doesn't need doctored pitches to function.

However root is not on sachin's level or lara's or any of the top tiers and he does struggle on certain pitches.

 

[mominsaigol]

Those were completely seamers paradise.

Do you know Murali’s average in Australia? 73 and his average in India? 40+. Spinners bowl long spells and their numbers can go bad in specific countries.

Only if you understand ABC of cricket, you won’t have asked such absurd questions. No more troll feeding from my side though. You can stay happy with the mediocrity that Pakistan is producing from last 20 years.

Lyon has a good record everywhere besides pakistan which doesn't count for obvious reasons?

Why is Lyon so good in sa and Ashwin isn't.

 

[JaDed]

Lyon has a good record everywhere besides pakistan which doesn't count for obvious reasons?

Why is Lyon so good in sa and Ashwin isn't.

So many Indian batsmen other than Sachin outperform Root in Aus..but you have called him tier2 great.. which is ATG you are an aussie aren’t you, why do even rate root?

 

[mominsaigol]

So many Indian batsmen other than Sachin outperform Root in Aus..but you have called him tier2 great.. which is ATG you are an aussie aren’t you, why do even rate root?

I rate root because at the very least he's going to reach no 2 or no 1 when it comes to overall test runs scored and that's a huge feat.

Irrespective of eras or conditons it's a massive achievement and he has scored across the globe. But he is not in the realm of prime steve smith or Ricky Pointing (Excluding his form in India ) and amoung others.

Lastly unlike the rest of England which is simply a bazzball galore, Butler, Duckett and root are the only proper batters left in England. The rest like brooks, Jacks etc etc are all hacks irrespective of the format they play

 

[JaDed]

I rate root because at the very least he's going to reach no 2 or no 1 when it comes to overall test runs scored and that's a huge feat.

Irrespective of eras or conditons it's a massive achievement and he has scored across the globe. But he is not in the realm of prime steve smith or Ricky Pointing (Excluding his form in India ) and amoung others.

Lastly unlike the rest of England which is simply a bazzball galore, Butler, Duckett and root are the only proper batters left in England. The rest like brooks, Jacks etc etc are all hacks irrespective of the format they play

Kumble is 4th and Ash will end up 7th.. but they are frauds..
So if you are a fraud you have to be in top 3 wickets or runs to be non-fraud?

 

[JaDed]

Jadeja in batting averages better than Root in Aus and Lanka lol
and except England and NZ , Jaddu actually has good bowling averages in all countries and he is being called a fraud over Root.

Jaddu is defn Test ATG for India.

 

[mominsaigol]

Kumble is 4th and Ash will end up 7th.. but they are frauds..
So if you are a fraud you have to be in top 3 wickets or runs to be non-fraud?

They both performed on Indian Doctored spin friendly pitches. Their horrible overseas. Bcci drops ashwin half the time for overseas tours?

 

[Mamoon]

Right up there with the likes of Dhoni, VVS, Kohli & Rohit (Test) and Ashwin as the biggest scam/fraud in Indian cricket history.

A very ordinary cricketer made to look good because of BCCI protectionism. There is zero difference between him and guys like Washington, Axar etc.

Shahid Afridi with a batting average of 37 and bowling average of 25 on Indian wickets (vs some of the all time great players of spin bowling) would have been an all time great Test all rounder as well had he played for India.

 

[Mamoon]

Ashwin gets treated like a toilet brush by Indian team management every time they play in SENA. No so called legendary Test cricketer in history has been booted out of the playing XI as often as Ashwin does.

Jadeja would have had a similar fate but his superior fielding protects his dignity compared to Ashwin.

 

[Ab Fan]

What is Lyon’s record vs two best teams in Aus, India and South Africa? That exposes his mediocrity too.

Lyon has a good record everywhere besides pakistan which doesn't count for obvious reasons?

Why is Lyon so good in sa and Ashwin isn't.

 

[Darkrai]

Not sure how anyone can take these records seriously when random spinners or even part timers become unplayable on these pitches. If you're going to play on such pitches, then obviously you will likely break all these records.

Even Yasir Shah was, maybe still is, the fastest to 200 test wickets while bowling mostly on UAE pitches, which aren't as spin friendly as the Indian pitches.

It's the same as scoring truckloads of runs on flat decks.

 

[Mamoon]

No indian can explain what makes Jadeja any better than Washington and Axar because he is not. He has just played more and if he is an ATG, then does India have 3 ATG Test all-rounders playing at the same time?

Same applies to Santner. You replace Jadeja with him over the last decade and nothing changes for India. He too would be an ATG.

It is incredible how easy it is for India to dupe fans and create fake legacies and narratives for its ordinary players.

India is the easiest team to play for if you want to become a fake legend of cricket.

 

[JaDed]

They both performed on Indian Doctored spin friendly pitches. Their horrible overseas. Bcci drops ashwin half the time for overseas tours?

Ok what about Jadeja he has better batting average than Root in two countries and except Eng and NZ extremely good bowling average.

 

[JaDed]

Going by the logic Root will end up the biggest batting Fraud , but hey lets protect him from Indian fans and Aus bowlers.

 

[Ab Fan]

Ok what about Jadeja he has better batting average than Root in two countries and except Eng and NZ extremely good bowling average.

According to our padosis who pretends to be Englishmen and Aussies, the nature of the pitches changes depending on what is in the hands of Jadeja and Ashwin.

If Jadeja has a bat in hand, the pitch becomes batting friendly but when he has a bowl in hand, the pitch suddenly becomes bowling friendly.

 

[mominsaigol]

Ok what about Jadeja he has better batting average than Root in two countries and except Eng and NZ extremely good bowling average.

I never really said much about jadeja tbf, I only talked about Ashwin being rubbish and @Ab Fan threw a hissyfit so I decide to play along.

Jadeja is just overrated for me. He isn't rubbish and has contributed and is a good allrounder. But he is not an atg lol. You lot throw around the word atg way too frequently, not every Tom dick and Harry is an atg.

As for ashwin he's rubbish. Regardless when it comes to jadeja vs root, Root is the better batter bit he needs to improve his batting in certain conditons. It's embrassing that a medicore allrounder has better stats then him in certain conditons.

 

[Ab Fan]

Jadeja averages 24 with bowl and 35 with bat. Question is how do you diminish his performance with bowl without demeaning performance with bat.

Top 10 active test cricketers of this generation:-

Steve Smith
Ravichandran Ashwin
Joe Root
Ravindra Jadeja
Virat kohli
Nathan Lyon
Kane Williamson
Pat Cummins
KG Rabada
Jasprit Bumrah

4 Indians out of top 10, phenomenal record over past 10 years. Quite comfortably the best team in the last 10 years. All hail India!

 

[mominsaigol]

Jadeja averages 24 with bowl and 35 with bat. Question is how do you diminish his performance with bowl without demeaning performance with bat.

Top 10 active test cricketers of this generation:-

Steve Smith
Ravichandran Ashwin
Joe Root
Ravindra Jadeja
Virat kohli
Nathan Lyon
Kane Williamson
Pat Cummins
KG Rabada
Jasprit Bumrah

4 Indians out of top 10, phenomenal record over past 10 years. Quite comfortably the best team in the last 10 years. All hail India!

Why is Williamson here .

Mate I, never mind, I remember you're the same guy who put Pollock on the same tier as Ashwin.

‍

 

[JaDed]

I never really said much about jadeja tbf, I only talked about Ashwin being rubbish and @Ab Fan threw a hissyfit so I decide to play along.

Jadeja is just overrated for me. He isn't rubbish and has contributed and is a good allrounder. But he is not an atg lol. You lot throw around the word atg way too frequently, not every Tom dick and Harry is an atg.

As for ashwin he's rubbish. Regardless when it comes to jadeja vs root, Root is the better batter bit he needs to improve his batting in certain conditons. It's embrassing that a medicore allrounder has better stats then him in certain conditons.

You said you are Aussie and you care about Aus, Root is mediocre there, So many Indian batsmen beat him there as simple as that.
Jaddu is an Indian ATG in tests.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Stay on the topic because thread is not about LYON vs ASH vs MURALI ETC

READ THE TITLE AGAIN NOW AND THEN YOU CAN POST.

 

[mominsaigol]

You said you are Aussie and you care about Aus, Root is mediocre there, So many Indian batsmen beat him there as simple as that.
Jaddu is an Indian ATG in tests.

Root is mwdicore in aus I'm well aware.

I can appreciate a player bro and despise another. I'm not strictly one note

 

[HARKS]

What about Stokes ? Can we say he is also rubbish once he come out of his comfort zone ? What is his record in Asian conditions ?

 

[Ab Fan]

What about Stokes ? Can we say he is also rubbish once he come out of his comfort zone ? What is his record in Asian conditions ?

Stokes has poor record in Asia and Oceania both.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Taking @Mamoon 's example of Shahid Afridi in India.

Ravindra Jadeja averages 44 with the bat and 21 with the ball in Australia.

Not only would he have replaced Lyon but also become Australia's greatest ever allrounder.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Jadeja is easily the best test allrounder of this generation, he has great performances in Asia, WI, Aus and good performances in SA. That is better than what Stokes pulled of in test cricket.

 

[Saurav]

Not sure how anyone can take these records seriously when random spinners or even part timers become unplayable on these pitches. If you're going to play on such pitches, then obviously you will likely break all these records.

Even Yasir Shah was, maybe still is, the fastest to 200 test wickets while bowling mostly on UAE pitches, which aren't as spin friendly as the Indian pitches.

It's the same as scoring truckloads of runs on flat decks.

If these pitches are so tough to bat, it would require Lara/Sehwag like skills to bat vs spin here. Jadeja averages nearly 40 with the bat on same 'tough' pitches.

 

[Ab Fan]

Top 10 test all rounders of all time:-

WI - Sobers
Aus - Miller
Eng - Botham, T Greig
SA - Kallis, Pollock, Faulkner
Ind - Kapil, Jadeja
Pak - Imran

Hadlee and Ashwin fall in bowlers who can bat a bit category.

 

[Mamoon]

Taking @Mamoon 's example of Shahid Afridi in India.

Ravindra Jadeja averages 44 with the bat and 21 with the ball in Australia.

Not only would he have replaced Lyon but also become Australia's greatest ever allrounder.

Jadeja bowls to Australian batsmen who aren’t very proficient vs spin. Afridi had such stats vs some of the greatest batsmen of spin ever. Huge difference.

 

[Darkrai]

If these pitches are so tough to bat, it would require Lara/Sehwag like skills to bat vs spin here. Jadeja averages nearly 40 with the bat on same 'tough' pitches

Because he probably plays spin better than most SENA players since he grew up on those pitches?

 

[Romali_rotti]

Under rated player.

To get 300 wickets and 3000 runs is no easy task...

 

[Romali_rotti]

Shahid Afridi with a batting average of 37 and bowling average of 25 on Indian wickets (vs some of the all time great players of spin bowling) would have been an all time great Test all rounder as well had he played for India.

Nah not really, you can't teach lack of intelligence... Afridi had no brain, so he wouldn't have achieved anything meaningful or given as much chances like he got in Pakistan, he wouldve been dropped after a few test matches in India for good.

Talent only gets you so far...

 

[BouncerGuy]

A good player but time for him to retire now. He should retire on a high note in his career.

 

[JaDed]

Because he probably plays spin better than most SENA players since he grew up on those pitches?

So your logic is Root grew up in swinging pitches.. so we should not take his runs seriously on those pitches because he averages 35 in Aus on pacy wickets.