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Recipe to ace targets against India in T20s: Defeat Jasprit Bumrah psychologically and the rest of the attack will collapse

I don’t understand why Indians are crying about this. You don’t have to turn up in every thread and start having a panic attack. Chill out.
 
I don’t understand why Indians are crying about this. You don’t have to turn up in every thread and start having a panic attack. Chill out.
Because you sound like "it is so simple" . He has been playing IPL for 10 years, He has bowled to some of the guys in the nets. HE has been playing across the formats for 10 years. You think nobody would have thought about your "ingenious" ideas? lol
 
Because you sound like "it is so simple" . He has been playing IPL for 10 years, He has bowled to some of the guys in the nets. HE has been playing across the formats for 10 years. You think nobody would have thought about your "ingenious" ideas? lol
Ok well then you have nothing to worry about lol. You should be happy.
 
Indians should be grateful that I am even giving one of their players this much importance.

i am attesting to his talent and consider him a worthy adversary who lets the ball do the talking. However enough is enough and I’m done gatekeeping solutions for bowlers like him.

If I go after one of your guys’ players and say he is awful, you guys will cry.

If I consider one of them a big enough deal to counter attack against then you will also cry.

Well more tears to come, as this game breaking blueprint is now out in the open. Good luck.
 
Indians should be grateful that I am even giving one of their players this much importance.

i am attesting to his talent and consider him worthy adversary who lets the ball do the talking.

If I go after one of your guys’ players and say he is awful, you guys will cry.

If I consider one of them a big enough to deal to counter attack against then you will also cry.

Well more tears to come, as this game breaking blueprint is now out in the open. Good luck.
lol I need a blueprint on how to handle shadab khan.
 
Indian fans have lot of other better things to discuss like WT20 Final.. unlike you who are coping hard on these useless thread to get a better sleep.. anyways carry on and cope hard buddy..
Then why are you on here commenting?
 
very original. If you’re done, come back with something useful and try not to copy me, it’s embarrassing
The only thing embarassing here is crap what you are posting..but I will give it to you..with such pathetic team you people have i can understand the mental state of you fans..its not easy..more strength to you brother
 
The only thing embarassing here is crap what you are posting..but I will give it to you..with such pathetic team you people have i can understand the mental state of you fans..its not easy..more strength to you brother
You seem very agitated for someone who is comfortable with your team. India are doing well at the moment, if I were you I’d take a step back, spark up a cigar and chill
 

You seem very agitated for someone who is comfortable with your team. India are doing well at the moment, if I were you I’d take a step back, spark up a cigar and chill
There you go, my boy. Thts a much better way to cope than posting nonsense on a cricket forum. The more you post, the more you expose urself n thats probably not great for your already fragile mental state. Now light a cigar, sit back, and watch the best men in the business play the World Cup final.
 
Hello all,

This is the solution that has to be implemented vs India and it won’t matter if they score 200 or 300 in t20s, any total will be chaseable.

Stop showing Bumrah respect, if anything, disrespect him.

However if you let stats, man of the match awards, and spreadsheets get to you then he will get your wicket.

Someone Fakhar showed that this is possible. Fakhar did psychological badtameezi toward him and that made Bumrah panic and bowl a no ball. And then the rest was history. How do you do this? Throw him off his game and attack by coming out of the crease.

Who will be the batsman to put Bumrah in his place?

Not saying this to insult Bumrah, I respect him for making it this far regardless of any dubious techniques. Saying this as a neutral fan with no skin in
 
Easier said than done. Bumrah does not give you many hittable deliveries. The ramp shot (or scoop) over the wicket-keeper is a good option against Bumrah, but only if you are good at it.
 
I recollect one of my friend who cant bat , bowl or field used to say " I wasn't interested in cricket, if not I will be the world's best batsmen hitting evey ball a 6 any where".very simple in terms of planning.
 

Few scoop attempts went horribly wrong. I think Ruturaj is probably the only guy who nailed a sweep against yorker from Bumrah for six.
 
lol I need a blueprint on how to handle shadab khan.
Bumrah has one weakness. Poor with new ball in swing friendly conditions.

Struggle vs Latham and mostly midget lefties. If he works on that then there is nothing else he needs to do
 
I would say current Bumrah is about 65% of Peak Bumrah. He misses quiet a few.
Peak absolute peak bumrah is better than any bowler ever barring Malcolm Marshall in all formats.
Current bumrah I would say is top 7 all time in tests and top 5 in LoI.
 
The only bowler - to have taken 200 test wickets at less than 20 average is Jasprit Bumrah - this is just to settle his greatness. From the beginning of test cricket to date no one has been able to achieve this.

In T20's - a game designed for batting exploits Bumrah's exploits are no less commendable.

Of course any bowler can be hit, Bumrah too - it is just that - under pressure in knockout games - where men get separated from boys - Bumrah is unparalleled. Also, it is not as if suddenly teams have decided not to attack him. It is precisely because they tried to attack him previously several times and lost wickets - is the reason why most teams have now settled down to just play his overs safely around. Bumrah is a perfect example of his well deserved reputation preceding him.

Having said all of the above - England really should have attempted to go after him. Sam Curran simply did not have the talent to do so.
 
The only bowler - to have taken 200 test wickets at less than 20 average is Jasprit Bumrah - this is just to settle his greatness. From the beginning of test cricket to date no one has been able to achieve this.

In T20's - a game designed for batting exploits Bumrah's exploits are no less commendable.

Of course any bowler can be hit, Bumrah too - it is just that - under pressure in knockout games - where men get separated from boys - Bumrah is unparalleled. Also, it is not as if suddenly teams have decided not to attack him. It is precisely because they tried to attack him previously several times and lost wickets - is the reason why most teams have now settled down to just play his overs safely around. Bumrah is a perfect example of his well deserved reputation preceding him.

Having said all of the above - England really should have attempted to go after him. Sam Curran simply did not have the talent to do so.

1) 200 Test wickets is nothing. Not enough sample. If he takes 350-400 wickets, we can then compare.

2) Bumrah got to bowl at many T20 hacks/inferior batters. Bowlers from past eras didn't have that luxury.

3) Bumrah is a possible chucker. He should get tested first.

Bumrah is not among top 10 greatest bowlers. He is pretty overrated and overhyped just because he is an Indian. :inti
 
How many wickets does your beloved Shoaib Akhtar have?​

Fast bowling is an alien concept in Bangaldesh. You have to cut them some slack. They are struggling to find a 125k fast bowler. Personally they should work on fitness so that they can touch 127k, 128k something like that. Hope bowlers like Hasan Ali, Shinwari, Ali Raza give some coaching to bangladesh brothers.
 
Fast bowling is an alien concept in Bangaldesh. You have to cut them some slack. They are struggling to find a 125k fast bowler. Personally they should work on fitness so that they can touch 127k, 128k something like that. Hope bowlers like Hasan Ali, Shinwari, Ali Raza give some coaching to bangladesh brothers.
The last Pakistani fast bowler to have taken 200 Test wickets is Waqar Younis. 🤣🤣
 
1) 200 Test wickets is nothing. Not enough sample. If he takes 350-400 wickets, we can then compare.

2) Bumrah got to bowl at many T20 hacks/inferior batters. Bowlers from past eras didn't have that luxury.

3) Bumrah is a possible chucker. He should get tested first.

Bumrah is not among top 10 greatest bowlers. He is pretty overrated and overhyped just because he is an Indian. :inti

I can name at least 12 Test bowlers who were better than Bumrah: :inti

McGrath
Wasim
Pollock
Steyn
Rabada
Ambrose
Walsh
Holding
Marshall
Starc
Joel Garner
Donald
 
Taskin should also be on that list sweep_shot bro 😔
Stop listening to someone who is equiavalent of a dust under the feet of Dale steyn

"I don't know how Bumrah does it, honestly. This guy is incredible. That amount of pressure, and he does it all the time, not like once every now and then. He does this all the time. I can't believe it. I don't know what the batter's approach needs to be while playing him. I don't know many people who try to take him on, and even if they do, they end up getting out. He is so special, it is hard to put into words how difficult it is to achieve what he did. Take his two overs away, and England would have won the game by an over," - Dale Steyn
 
Stop listening to someone who is equiavalent of a dust under the feet of Dale steyn

"I don't know how Bumrah does it, honestly. This guy is incredible. That amount of pressure, and he does it all the time, not like once every now and then. He does this all the time. I can't believe it. I don't know what the batter's approach needs to be while playing him. I don't know many people who try to take him on, and even if they do, they end up getting out. He is so special, it is hard to put into words how difficult it is to achieve what he did. Take his two overs away, and England would have won the game by an over," - Dale Steyn
Sweep_shot bro is nothing but comic relief for me, nothing he says I give any value to 😇 but feel sorry for him at times though 😕
 
Sweep_shot bro is nothing but comic relief for me, nothing he says I give any value to 😇 but feel sorry for him at times though 😕
Agreed! Provides enormous comic relief to the forum. Reminds me of cars112 😂😂
 
I have a better strategy.

When Bumrah is bowling batsman should imagine Dinda instead of Bumrah and then they will hit him for sixes.
 
Bumrah is a real threat and other bowlers feed of that fear... Look at pandya and arshdeep. They compliment bumrah nicely
 
Bumrah is a myth.. It will get busted 3 years later when he plans to retire.
 
Bumrah has always been up to mark

His overs were the reason India won the match
 
There you go, my boy. Thts a much better way to cope than posting nonsense on a cricket forum. The more you post, the more you expose urself n thats probably not great for your already fragile mental state. Now light a cigar, sit back, and watch the best men in the business play the World Cup final.
Seems like your brain is a bit scrambled. Random statements and then pirating anything I say.

Just a couple of questions, no offence - are you a freshie? Do you you speak with a bud bud accent. This is not a problem but will be good to know then I can speak in your language
 
I don’t understand why Indians are crying about this. You don’t have to turn up in every thread and start having a panic attack. Chill out.
Laughing and mocking at such stupid threads is the opposite of crying and panic attacks. But love how this is always the go to reply of you guys when Indians start laughing at such stupid threads.

To win you need to get your opponent's best batsmen out and hit their best bowlers. See how silly it sounds?

At least come up with something more witty next time dude, this same, lame, accusation of Indians crying, when they clearly are having fun, is getting a bit boring. You can have a bit of creativity even in your ad hominems and strawmans.
 
Laughing and mocking at such stupid threads is the opposite of crying and panic attacks. But love how this is always the go to reply of you guys when Indians start laughing at such stupid threads.

To win you need to get your opponent's best batsmen out and hit their best bowlers. See how silly it sounds?

At least come up with something more witty next time dude, this same, lame, accusation of Indians crying, when they clearly are having fun, is getting a bit boring. You can have a bit of creativity even in your ad hominems and strawmans.
I’m gonna reply to you normally because you’re generally a good poster and I respect that.

It’s not funny tho, I’m not saying what you should do. It’s what you shouldn’t do. What’s wrong with providing alternatives?

I’m saying stop trying to just “play him out”. This is exactly what SA did in 24 England did in the semi final the other day - and they missed out on about 8 additional runs in his last two overs.

You cannot afford to face any bowler in a t20 game with the mentality of “playing them out”. That’s too many overs as a proportion of the innings. T20s are not Odis where 3-4 overs don’t make as much of a difference.

Not only that you are already telling the bowler that you have no intention of trying to hit him. That gives a bowler confidence to hit his default lengths. You cannot afford to do that to any bowler. If he gets you out, well that’s fine. Say well bowled and be on your way, but I’ve see. Bumrah wilt under pressure a few times. Don’t make life easy for him.
 
I’m gonna reply to you normally because you’re generally a good poster and I respect that.

It’s not funny tho, I’m not saying what you should do. It’s what you shouldn’t do. What’s wrong with providing alternatives?

I’m saying stop trying to just “play him out”. This is exactly what SA did in 24 England did in the semi final the other day - and they missed out on about 8 additional runs in his last two overs.

You cannot afford to face any bowler in a t20 game with the mentality of “playing them out”. That’s too many overs as a proportion of the innings. T20s are not Odis where 3-4 overs don’t make as much of a difference.

Not only that you are already telling the bowler that you have no intention of trying to hit him. That gives a bowler confidence to hit his default lengths. You cannot afford to do that to any bowler. If he gets you out, well that’s fine. Say well bowled and be on your way, but I’ve see. Bumrah wilt under pressure a few times. Don’t make life easy for him.
Surely this is nothing to cry about @Sachin fan ? Or even laugh about.

If you feel he is above that then you shouldn’t need to reply.
 
1) 200 Test wickets is nothing. Not enough sample. If he takes 350-400 wickets, we can then compare.

2) Bumrah got to bowl at many T20 hacks/inferior batters. Bowlers from past eras didn't have that luxury.

3) Bumrah is a possible chucker. He should get tested first.

Bumrah is not among top 10 greatest bowlers. He is pretty overrated and overhyped just because he is an Indian. :inti
Now say that without crying.
 
I think batters are more creeped out/distracted by his action than his actual bowling. :inti

Also, let's not forget his possible chucking. It always helps when you can chuck and get away thanks to BCCICC.
 
His skills with the ball is more to talk than his action .. the seam position the release , the angle, the grip and deception of the slower ball. The bouncer , left or right bat .. old new white red whatever ball whoever the bat whateva the condition .. whether reverse or no reverse … haven’t seen such a highly skilled accurate and intelligent bowler across format and knows which ball to bowl when …his stats are ridiculous that too in the era of batters as the say although I do feel batters have also evolved so much with their range of shots and is just not about the pitch and bat etc..with time and technology everything evolves wrt equipment etc but a bowler equipment is limited it is only the ball and all his body mechanics .. .. he may still have off days but as a batter you got to take some initiative as he will always bowl the most important or critical overs …
 
Seems like your brain is a bit scrambled. Random statements and then pirating anything I say.

Just a couple of questions, no offence - are you a freshie? Do you you speak with a bud bud accent. This is not a problem but will be good to know then I can speak in your language
Intrstng that instead of responding to the point u hv moved on to accents...classic sign the argument didn’t go your way...
accent jokes are the last refuge of some1 who ran out of actual points
 
Stick to excuses, you salty fool,
Bumrah's legal, you're just a tool.
A nation is, Minnows in cricket's sea,
Genetically geared for mediocrity!
 
1) 200 Test wickets is nothing. Not enough sample. If he takes 350-400 wickets, we can then compare.

2) Bumrah got to bowl at many T20 hacks/inferior batters. Bowlers from past eras didn't have that luxury.

3) Bumrah is a possible chucker. He should get tested first.

Bumrah is not among top 10 greatest bowlers. He is pretty overrated and overhyped just because he is an Indian. :inti

Michael holding has 200 test wickets, so does andy roberts they are greats of the game.


Bumrah is bowling to the batsman of his era because that what every bowler has done.

Bumrah is once a generation bowler, his greaness doesn’t depend on what Bangladeshis think

You realise how irrelevant your country is in cricket, thrown out of the world t20 in a matter of days.

Whether a bowler is chucker or not decided by tests which are done on the basis of umpire reports, has umpires reported bumrah?
 
Stick to excuses, you salty fool,
Bumrah's legal, you're just a tool.
A nation is, Minnows in cricket's sea,
Genetically geared for mediocrity!

Which country was recently removed from t20wc for throwing tantrums?
 
Pressure makes you pre-meditate more. You start to commit earlier, you load up for shots, you decide what you're going to do before the ball is bowled. Most bowlers can't punish that because they're also under pressure and just trying to hit their yorker length. Bumrah actually uses your pre-meditation against you. He reads what you're setting up for and bowls the exact opposite. Short ball batter? He'll go full. Expecting full? Here's one that sits up. And he does this while the game is on the line. You cannot look at any Bumrah delivery in isolation. That's not how he operates. That "hittable" ball two deliveries ago? That was setup. You just didn't know it yet.
 
Intrstng that instead of responding to the point u hv moved on to accents...classic sign the argument didn’t go your way...
accent jokes are the last refuge of some1 who ran out of actual points

Look dude, when you’re not comprehensible and seem a bit all over the place I assumed there was a language barrier.

I hold no grudges for people with bud bud accents. They are human too.
 
Look dude, when you’re not comprehensible and seem a bit all over the place I assumed there was a language barrier.

I hold no grudges for people with bud bud accents. They are human too.
every reply from u drifts further frm cricket and deeper into accents. Almst like the original point was too difficult to deal with
 
every reply from u drifts further frm cricket and deeper into accents. Almst like the original point was too difficult to deal with
You had your chance to respond to the original point and you started nonsense so I repeated nonsense. I respond based on the IQ of the poster.
 
No harm in accepting reality guys. We have to admit bumrah is better than our very own Wasim and Waqar plus Imran in all formats.

It pains me to say it but this is reality now.
I think the most painful aspect is that in one go, India have destroyed the whole Pakistani fast bowling legacy by producing a pacer who is better than not just Shoaib Akhtar but also Waqar Younis and not just Shoaib and Waqar but also Wasim Akram and not just for the last time Shoaib, Waqar, Wasim but also Imran khan.

Bumrah came from nowhere and just took away the crown of fast bowling from Pakistan while there wasn't any Indian even in the house before him. I can feel for a Pakistani here. It is deeply saddening to be a Millennial or GenZ from Pakistan and be a cricket fan.
 
I think the most painful aspect is that in one go, India have destroyed the whole Pakistani fast bowling legacy by producing a pacer who is better than not just Shoaib Akhtar but also Waqar Younis and not just Shoaib and Waqar but also Wasim Akram and not just for the last time Shoaib, Waqar, Wasim but also Imran khan.

Bumrah came from nowhere and just took away the crown of fast bowling from Pakistan while there wasn't any Indian even in the house before him. I can feel for a Pakistani here. It is deeply saddening to be a Millennial or GenZ from Pakistan and be a cricket fan.
I also believe shami is far better than Waqar and shoaib in odi and tests
 
Stop listening to someone who is equiavalent of a dust under the feet of Dale steyn

"I don't know how Bumrah does it, honestly. This guy is incredible. That amount of pressure, and he does it all the time, not like once every now and then. He does this all the time. I can't believe it. I don't know what the batter's approach needs to be while playing him. I don't know many people who try to take him on, and even if they do, they end up getting out. He is so special, it is hard to put into words how difficult it is to achieve what he did. Take his two overs away, and England would have won the game by an over," - Dale Steyn
What does Dale Steyn know about fast bowling?
 
I think best approach against Bumrah is to attack him. He becomes like Mahatma Gandhi once he is under the pump. :inti

Konstas once took him to the cleaners. So did Sahibzada Farhan.
 
I think the most painful aspect is that in one go, India have destroyed the whole Pakistani fast bowling legacy by producing a pacer who is better than not just Shoaib Akhtar but also Waqar Younis and not just Shoaib and Waqar but also Wasim Akram and not just for the last time Shoaib, Waqar, Wasim but also Imran khan.

Bumrah came from nowhere and just took away the crown of fast bowling from Pakistan while there wasn't any Indian even in the house before him. I can feel for a Pakistani here. It is deeply saddening to be a Millennial or GenZ from Pakistan and be a cricket fan.
Truth. It’s pretty unreal.

Remember for decades and at least for 1.5 decades on this forum itself Indian pacers were the butt of the joke, with their trademark being sub 130 kph trash with no accuracy, nothing. Someone like Zaheer Khan or Irfan Pathan was the pinnacle, but that’s it. Then Shami and Bhuvi made things slightly better around 2012-13 and then few years down the line with Bumrah, everything changed.

He’s not a big talker or the loudest most charismatic personality, but his results and the constriction he brings are McGrath esque at this point… am sure even Indians could never imagine something like that being said about one of their pacers.

Fast bowling attack was the last thing Pakistan held over India even deep into 2009-2010, maybe until 2013 if we stretch it to the max… but now- there’s nothing.

The whole concept of one nation being the batting factory and the other being the fast bowling factory, a concept that kept the rivalry alive for many years, is now completely destroyed.

However I will bring Bumrah down from the inside. The Final Solution will be his undoing.
 
Stop listening to someone who is equiavalent of a dust under the feet of Dale steyn

"I don't know how Bumrah does it, honestly. This guy is incredible. That amount of pressure, and he does it all the time, not like once every now and then. He does this all the time. I can't believe it. I don't know what the batter's approach needs to be while playing him. I don't know many people who try to take him on, and even if they do, they end up getting out. He is so special, it is hard to put into words how difficult it is to achieve what he did. Take his two overs away, and England would have won the game by an over," - Dale Steyn

South Africans tend to be big Indian bootlickers. :inti

South African players often ditch their country and play for other countries. They say anything and do anything if you give them some moolahs.

Bumrah is very overhyped and overrated just because he is an Indian. He should be tested because he has a suspicious action. He should not get a free pass. :inti
 
I can name at least 12 Test bowlers who were better than Bumrah: :inti

McGrath
Wasim
Pollock
Steyn
Rabada
Ambrose
Walsh
Holding
Marshall
Starc
Joel Garner
Donald
Add Imran and Hadlee too

Imran’s test record is better than Wasim’s. Better bowling average and SR and 3/6 ten-wicket hauls (Wasim has 5) were outside the subcontinent … and all of those tests won by Pakistan (Sydney 1974, Leeds 1987 and George Town, West Indies 1988).

Fast bowlers hunt in pairs and Imran did not have the luxury of having someone like Waqar as his bowling partner. That said Sarfraz was a pretty decent test bowler.

Bumrah’s bowling action may not be very aesthetic but he is mighty effective and a proven all format performer.

However, it will only be fair to compare Bumrah with those mentioned in the list once he has taken 350-400 test wickets
 
Pack it up guys..

Apparently, we should stop stop listening to Dale Steyn on fast bowling and start listening to lectures of minnow Bangladeshi fans with chihuahua syndrome.. 🤡

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Pack it up guys..

Apparently, we should stop stop listening to Dale Steyn on fast bowling and start listening to lectures of minnow Bangladeshi fans with chihuahua syndrome.. 🤡

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Well dale Steyn as a choking loser in almost all icc events anyway.
What does he know about winning?

But he was a great. A true great in tests. 5 or 6 years world number 1 is incredible in tests. And they won maces in patches.
 
I can name at least 12 Test bowlers who were better than Bumrah: :inti

McGrath
Wasim
Pollock
Steyn
Rabada
Ambrose
Walsh
Holding
Marshall
Starc
Joel Garner
Donald
Cmon don’t be foolish now. We have to admit that neighbours have the goat bowler in the world across formats. One of the goats.

McGrath - sure
Wasim - no chance. Our own Wasim bhai said booms is better
Pollock - lol don’t make laugh man
Steyn - choker? No. Bumrah is better
Rabada - lawl elite but a notch below bumrah
Ambrose - ok sure. Maybe on par or better I agree
Walsh - absolutely not better than bumrah
Holding - very good but not in the class of bumrah
Marshall - sure he is better than bumrah. This is one player no one can touch. Across formats bumrah though
Starc - hahahahah lol hahahah
Garner - nope. Bumrah better
Donald - again choker? Nope. Bumrah is a fair bit better

U missed hadlee and I have him on par with our neighbour’s bumrah

Don’t be salty now cmon.

It’s time to accept that our neighbour has the goat bowler

I would only put 4 at best above him in tests and only 2 or 3 above him across all formats
 
Well dale Steyn as a choking loser in almost all icc events anyway.
What does he know about winning?

But he was a great. A true great in tests. 5 or 6 years world number 1 is incredible in tests. And they won maces in patches.

I'm pretty sure that "Choking loser" knows more about fast bowling than the forum experts here who are coping real hard ever since Bumrah started winning series and tournaments for India.
 
I think the most painful aspect is that in one go, India have destroyed the whole Pakistani fast bowling legacy by producing a pacer who is better than not just Shoaib Akhtar but also Waqar Younis and not just Shoaib and Waqar but also Wasim Akram and not just for the last time Shoaib, Waqar, Wasim but also Imran khan.

Bumrah came from nowhere and just took away the crown of fast bowling from Pakistan while there wasn't any Indian even in the house before him. I can feel for a Pakistani here. It is deeply saddening to be a Millennial or GenZ from Pakistan and be a cricket fan.
Bumrah being better does not destroy the legacy of Pakistani fast bowling. IK, Wasim, Waqar, Akhtar etc have added a lot in rich history of cricket. Some one being better does not take it away. Every single team right now will kill for having some one like IK or Wasim. Hardly matters if one bowler is better. In fact as cricket fans, its always good to see some one better coming. It will be fantastic to see world cricket having better players than Marshall, SRT, McGrath, Viv, IK etc in future.
 
Cmon don’t be foolish now. We have to admit that neighbours have the goat bowler in the world across formats. One of the goats.

McGrath - sure
Wasim - no chance. Our own Wasim bhai said booms is better
Pollock - lol don’t make laugh man
Steyn - choker? No. Bumrah is better
Rabada - lawl elite but a notch below bumrah
Ambrose - ok sure. Maybe on par or better I agree
Walsh - absolutely not better than bumrah
Holding - very good but not in the class of bumrah
Marshall - sure he is better than bumrah. This is one player no one can touch. Across formats bumrah though
Starc - hahahahah lol hahahah
Garner - nope. Bumrah better
Donald - again choker? Nope. Bumrah is a fair bit better

U missed hadlee and I have him on par with our neighbour’s bumrah

Don’t be salty now cmon.

It’s time to accept that our neighbour has the goat bowler

I would only put 4 at best above him in tests and only 2 or 3 above him across all formats
Marshall
McGrath
Hadlee
Ambrose
Steyn
Imran
Wasim
Bumrah
Lillee
Donald
Garner/ Holding

That’s my list. Lillee has phenomenal WPM so I am not really bothered with his Asia record which is such a low sample and it didn’t matter much back.
 
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