[REPORT] Imran Khan asks Najam Sethi to step down as PCB Chairman

[silent ischemia]

Sethi is the one who wrote an anti-Imran article after his election victory.

Not anti Imran but ......
There is a difference

 

[mak36]

I agree that he should have stopped, but it was a lose lose situation for him anyway. Had he stopped, people would have said that he is afraid of losing his position and is trying to repair his relationship with Imran.

I said he should have stopped any and all political work once he was appointed as PCB head.

Post-election would have been too late anyway.

 

[Third_Umpire]

Good riddance. This man had no business doing anything with PCB in the first place.

 

[Syed1]

Great decision by greatest leader Pakistan has ever had after Muhammad Ali Jinnah.



Haters can go cry in a corner.

 

[Major]

lmao anti imran, Najem Sethi is a journalist, and he gave his journalistic views regarding the general election.

 

[silent ischemia]

Great decision by greatest leader Pakistan has ever had after Muhammad Ali Jinnah.



Haters can go cry in a corner.

Way to early to say that. Let's hope and pray that he becomes the greatest leader after Jinnah

 

[Syed1]

Way to early to say that. Let's hope and pray that he becomes the greatest leader after Jinnah

Well people like you can look in your crystal ball and predict that IK will appoint his yes-man as PCB chairman, but I can't look in my crystal ball and say that IK will be greatest leader after Jinnah?

 

[silent ischemia]

Well people like you can look in your crystal ball and predict that IK will appoint his yes-man as PCB chairman, but I can't look in my crystal ball and say that IK will be greatest leader after Jinnah?

I never said IK will appoint his yes man.

 

[mak36]

lmao anti imran, Najem Sethi is a journalist, and he gave his journalistic views regarding the general election.

You can't pick or choose.

Either be a journalist or the head of the PCB.

 

[Major]

You can't pick or choose.

Either be a journalist or the head of the PCB.

ah yes you could, infact even in govt level, many employees are given double charges

 

[Major]

also his artcile was an editorial.

so your saying that once you get a job, you cant write an editorial?

lmao nice.

 

[enkidu_]

Nice, shouldn't have been made PCB chairman to begin with.

 

[Monsee]

I agree that he should have stopped, but it was a lose lose situation for him anyway. Had he stopped, people would have said that he is afraid of losing his position and is trying to repair his relationship with Imran.

So you (Sethi) continue with mud slinging based on 'What People Will Say', good to know logic and common sense works well even in our educated (supposed) minds!

 

[Arham_PakFan]

You can't pick or choose.

Either be a journalist or the head of the PCB.

Agreed. how he continued featuring in a political talk show for 3 years after being appointed PCB chief was beyond me.

 

[mak36]

ah yes you could, infact even in govt level, many employees are given double charges

You obviously don't understand how institutions work.

What other cricket head is writing political articles?

I am said to say but it is your mentality which allows this cronyism to continue.

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Imran means well...Even if he succeeds in half-fulfilling his mission, it will have been worth the price paid in mocking democracy and constitutionalism. But if he fails, the tab will be greater because there is no back up except takeover by The Aliens. <a href="https://t.co/8DaG41CQfC">https://t.co/8DaG41CQfC</a></p>— Najam Sethi (@najamsethi) <a href="https://twitter.com/najamsethi/status/1027950091431227393?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 10, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Excerpts from his article:

This is just the latest example of the charmed fortunes of the “ladla” of this generation. Imran has emerged unscathed from a battery of perfectly reasonable cases challenging his morality, his declaration of assets, his contemptuous remarks about the ECP, and other “careless” omissions and commissions, etc, while lesser mortals like Nawaz Sharif and Mariam Sharif have been shunted to prison and disqualified from parliament for failing to declare petty “unreceived” incomes (construed as assets!) or using type fonts not generally in the free public domain in certain property trust deeds.

If Imran leads a “favoured” life, why is he looking so deadbeat and forlorn these days? One would have thought his life’s ambition to be prime minister and change Pakistan for good would have brought colour to his face and a glint in his eye as he nears his objective. But the challenges ahead are truly formidable and these seem to be dampening his spirit as they dawn on him.

The Miltablishment, which has invested heavily in him, is also breathing down his neck (albeit discreetly) for its own pound of flesh. Say this, don’t do that, select her, drop him, seems to be the whisper of the day. On top of it, Mrs Peerni Khan’s invocations can only be ignored at peril. The constant jostling between Jahangir Tareen and Shah Mahmood Qureshi must take a toll too as must the shrill reprimands of the PTI ideologues who are swamped by turncoats and opportunists. No wonder Imran has kept his “lists” of favoured sons of the soil close to his chest.

But, but, no politics

 

[TeymurBlake]

Let's be honest, this was going to happen. Imran is going to bring in his own people to run the PCB. Hopefully he will select someone on merit who will continue to do the work Najam has done and hopefully better it.

 

[azimiqbal]

Ok guys had a read everything ,
yes he has done well with PSL

But with has done nothing with domestic cricket which is in dire need of re structuring and Sethi has shown no intent or interest in doing so,

All in all good to get rid of him if right person is bought in

 

[wazzy]

What happened to Imran Khan victory speech?

Justice and accountability for all including Najam Sethi. This is consistent with IK victory speech.

 

[Major]

You obviously don't understand how institutions work.

What other cricket head is writing political articles?

I am said to say but it is your mentality which allows this cronyism to continue.

Agreed. how he continued featuring in a political talk show for 3 years after being appointed PCB chief was beyond me.

Sharad Pawar

The guy was BCCI from 2005 to 2008.

During that time he was also the Minister of Agriculture, and he was also minister of consumer Affairs.




There is also Naeem Bukhari who was host of a show while doing his other job.

Again, there is nothing wrong in running two jobs.

 

[Major]

Ok guys had a read everything ,
yes he has done well with PSL

But with has done nothing with domestic cricket which is in dire need of re structuring and Sethi has shown no intent or interest in doing so,

All in all good to get rid of him if right person is bought in

PSL comes under domestic cricket

 

[LordEddardStark]

The amount of hatred spilled and name-calling in this thread is unprecedented for a thread in cricket forum. Where are the admins? We visit pakpassion for cricket related talk. Had we wanted political debates, and that too of this level, there were a million other forums in this country too.

 

[Abdullah719]

The amount of hatred spilled and name-calling in this thread is unprecedented for a thread in cricket forum. Where are the admins? We visit pakpassion for cricket related talk. Had we wanted political debates, and that too of this level, there were a million other forums in this country too.

Political discussion is unavoidable on such a thread, unless we censor anyone who claims that there may be politics involved.

I considered posting this in the Politics/Time Pass forum but posted it here instead since it involves the future of the PCB.

If any rude posts haven't been dealt with, kindly use the report feature.

 

[Major]

The amount of hatred spilled and name-calling in this thread is unprecedented for a thread in cricket forum. Where are the admins? We visit pakpassion for cricket related talk. Had we wanted political debates, and that too of this level, there were a million other forums in this country too.

you cant expect politics not to be discussed because the PCB chairman post is always given on political basis.

Politics is linked here which is why the thread will become political no matter what.

Its not as if the Prime Minister gets changed the PCB chairman post wont be affected by it due to its own election taking place.

As the PM gets changed so do the post of some institutions and one of those institutions are PCB.

This is why i always found Subhan Ahmed to be smart. He works as a COO, he has been working for years, no one even notices him. Its the chairmans that take the bullet

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

No one can stay in one place forever. Sethi should leave the PCB with his head held high because he has done brilliantly in his tenure and that is a complement very hard to receive as an administrator in Pakistan.

 

[Major]

No one can stay in one place forever. Sethi should leave the PCB with his head held high because he has done brilliantly in his tenure and that is a complement very hard to receive as an administrator in Pakistan.

yes you can depending on your post.

If you are CEO or COO you could quietly work for 10-15 years without anyone going after you

Subhan Ahmed and James Sunderland are very good examples.

Chairman has more power because everyone reports to him and anything happening would happen with his approval. Thus, he is responsible for lots of stuff, and because he is the guy which known all around, he could be fired anytime.

God knows what Subhan Ahmed does, but that guy has been working as COO for years and people barely know about this. Guys like sheryar, zaka ashraf, sethi will come and ago, but you would see Subhan at his post quietly.

 

[azimiqbal]

No it’s does not it’s a seperate event , either way our main issues is our first class cricket. If we sort out our structure we would be unbeatable

 

[mak36]

Sharad Pawar

The guy was BCCI from 2005 to 2008.

During that time he was also the Minister of Agriculture, and he was also minister of consumer Affairs.




There is also Naeem Bukhari who was host of a show while doing his other job.

Again, there is nothing wrong in running two jobs.

I ask you for current examples and you quote examples from over ten years ago. In any case, your examples are redundant as the ICC has since passed a provision which was designed to prevent government interference.

You also seem to be missing the point completely. The issue isn't having two jobs; the issue is having two roles which are a complete conflict of interest and indeed seems to breach the ICC's Articles of Associations.

A head of a national public organisation should not be voicing political opinions; any developed country knows that. Look at the cricket boards (or indeed any national federation) of developed countries and you will see they are autonomous and free from interference from government in the administration of their affairs.

The point isn't about PMLN v PTI. It is about upholding the neutrality of public organisations, irrespective of your political opinion.

 

[mak36]

Political discussion is unavoidable on such a thread, unless we censor anyone who claims that there may be politics involved.

I considered posting this in the Politics/Time Pass forum but posted it here instead since it involves the future of the PCB.

If any rude posts haven't been dealt with, kindly use the report feature.

I second your post.

I would also say the fact you considered posting this in the Politics/Time Pass forum proves the the point I am trying to make; Sethi has brought national politics into the PCB and undermined its neutrality.

 

[Sherlock]

Someone should look at the cases of Sharjeel, Khalid, and the frankly ridiculous decision on banning Shahzaib Hasan for 4 years and a hefty fine to boot.

Still not proof in-regards to what Sharjeel and Khalid actually did.

 

[MMHS]

Apart from a successful PSL, I am not sure what else NS has brought in PAK cricket. And, that PSL started after a decade of BCCI and when almost every other board already had their T20 league. I am not sure the recent improvements of PAK team or overall cricket, how much I should credit NS and how much to Arthur (Ul Haq & Sarfraz as well). There are several steps in positive directions, but these are bare minimum - just that previous regime (s) ignored those (or didn't have the power to fix, we should remember that NS had quite strong hold on previous Patron of PCB), it looks so bright.

Honestly speaking, does it really draws that much credit to appoint Sarfraz Captain over Azhar or demote MoHa from Cat A or planning an annual calendar or setting some strict fitness guidance or threatening BCCI? In contrary, still Domestic cricket is a mess, financial management is dubious, staffing in PCB is incompetent/questionable (Director Cricket??? ). There has been massive mismanagement in players' involvement in other leagues, there was absolutely no reason to isolate PAK cricket from Bangladesh, junior/A level level cricket is nonexistent.

Having said that, I think guy is quite capable, at least better then most of his predecessors. His appointment is dubious, hence he should go and he predicted the worst as well. Imran should build institution rather than sacking a Chairman for the sake of it - and if he hand picks someone like Zakir Khan to replace NS, he'll lose credibility (& respect). I would appreciate if he constructs an adhoc body with a certain deadline to run the operation, fix/amend PCB constitution and arrange a proper election.

May be, now it's time to start the whole system from scratch. I don't think this Chairman holding God like power will work now (it was effective in 1950s, 60s, 70s for a new country with lots of constraints); rather the day to day operation should be independent of leadership. Chairman & his board of directors to be elected and they are not be part of operation, rather their involvement should be in policy level, bridging relation between sports ministry & PCB.

A CEO should be appointed (on salary, just like Unilever or Mobilink does), and he'll run the show with his CXOs - Chief Operational Officer, Chief Financial Officer, Chief Commercial Officer and Chief Technical Officer ... and functional Directors/Managers under them. Here, only that CTO guy needs to be someone like Mudassar (better if a a foreigner is appointed), who has almost 50 years of cricket experience - he'll look after everything that touches cricket, from National team to domestic cricket, junior cricket, coaching, facilities, R&D....... BoG, led by Chairman should set the KPIs for CEO (& his team), their budget (it's a 2 way negotiation), scope & limitations and allow them to work independently for an annual cycle - their involvement should be restricted to one BoG meeting in every quarter, or may be a month for a business review and exchanging thoughts/feedback. Chairman should limit political influence on CEO and functional teams, so that they can focus on their job.

I have BIG expectation from Imran - he has 20 years of County (& Shield, played for NSW) experience, he has adequate education in management science, he has leadership vision and he could play the game a little as well.

 

[coy0607]

also his artcile was an editorial.

so your saying that once you get a job, you cant write an editorial?

lmao nice.

you absolutely shouldn't write heavily political editorials if your have the top job at a major national/public organization

if you are an employee working in a cubicle at some private company, feel free to write all the editorials you want

 

[IMMY69]

Had to skip the many pathetic posts here on this thread.

Of course Sethi has to go.
No it’s not political revenge on anything like that.

Any idiot knows that IK was advocating an independent PCB from even before he went into politics. Sethi is the product of that ad hoc committee and has to be the first one to go.

Sethi’s only achievement has been his timing. Being st the right place at the right time...

 

[pakistan cricket fan]

Very well done Imran Khan

 

[J-Essence]

In institutions people come and go but the system keeps working, those crying about "best ever PCB chairman" are exactly the reason why Pakistan is the way it is.

right on the money. if we are worried the PSL will go down hill because of one guy...then we have bigger problems

 

[Abdullah719]

Najam Sethi set to resign as PCB chairman after PM’s oath taking ceremony

Lahore, August 11 (TNS): Renowned administrator and journalist Najam Sethi is set to resign as chairman of Pakistan Cricket Board after oath taking of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) chairman Imran Khan as Prime Minister, according to reports.

The PCB chairman said that the decision to quit has been taken to save Pakistan Super League (PSL).

PTI had written a letter to National Accountability Bureau (NAB) in which they asked them to open an investigation over alleged corruption against Sethi.

In the letter, it was said that Najam Sethi was not making the audit report of PSL public because he was involved in corruption of the revenues generated by the event.

Sources suggest that Imran Khan will not only sack Sethi as chairman but will also open corruption cases against him and will probe him after coming in power.

https://tns.world/najam-sethi-set-to-resign-as-pcb-chairman-after-pms-oath-taking-ceremony/

 

[mak36]

One other point to mention is that most of the PSL day to day's running is by the young, professional additions to the PCB; that infrastructure will remain in place. All that is changing is the head. As long as IK appoints a professional (and ideally passes some reforms to depoliticise the PCB) then things will only get better.

 

[DRsohail]

[MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] ignore Nooras.IA Imran will remove every prrson been appointed in pilitucal grounds and will clear the mess. Thank you najam sethi we don’t need you any more and be ready for the real investigation and ehtisaaab.

 

[DRsohail]

Najam Sethi set to resign as PCB chairman after PM’s oath taking ceremony

Lahore, August 11 (TNS): Renowned administrator and journalist Najam Sethi is set to resign as chairman of Pakistan Cricket Board after oath taking of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) chairman Imran Khan as Prime Minister, according to reports.

The PCB chairman said that the decision to quit has been taken to save Pakistan Super League (PSL).

PTI had written a letter to National Accountability Bureau (NAB) in which they asked them to open an investigation over alleged corruption against Sethi.

In the letter, it was said that Najam Sethi was not making the audit report of PSL public because he was involved in corruption of the revenues generated by the event.

Sources suggest that Imran Khan will not only sack Sethi as chairman but will also open corruption cases against him and will probe him after coming in power.

https://tns.world/najam-sethi-set-to-resign-as-pcb-chairman-after-pms-oath-taking-ceremony/

Waaah ab cheekhay niklay gee.

 

[adzzy786]

I don’t think there has been any proof he’s actually asked him to step down. This is all speculation and just ‘reports’ let’s wait till the face appear

 

[zoeyfactor]

Recommend elections for the post and let Sethi contest. If he wins, let him continue.

 

[BaankeJi]

Sethi, in all honesty, a legacy of PMLN's corruption's legacy

He's kind of guy who didn't even congratulate IK on victory? That was pathetic.

To congratulate or not is an individual's prerogative. Should not be held against him.

 

[shaz619]

Sethi did an alright job but he can't remain with a cleaner PCB in mind moving forward into the future

 

[IMMY69]

I don’t think there has been any proof he’s actually asked him to step down. This is all speculation and just ‘reports’ let’s wait till the face appear

Spot on.
Also I don’t think IK will ask him to step down. If anything I think he will take him down with such force that his cell mate Nawaz Shariff will be left shocked to his corrupt bones.

 

[mak36]

Spot on.
Also I don’t think IK will ask him to step down. If anything I think he will take him down with such force that his cell mate Nawaz Shariff will be left shocked to his corrupt bones.

Have to admit to having a good laugh at this.

 

[Slim]

I don't see how that speech means he has to let someone who oversaw PSL which has financial irregularities on a huge scale stay in-charge.

PCB and PCL has not been audited so it is alleged Sethi may have benefited himself and those close to him with salaries and kickbacks. Sethi should just resign and make way for someone with a squeaky clean image and the knowledge and experience in cricketing administration to head PCB.

Not proven

Didn't Imran want PCB to be depoliticized and no political intervention so this is wrong. There should be change in system without any political intervention, make legislation to make system better and call for new PCB chairman election rather directly removing him.

Yeah a job of financial irregularities, appointing relatives and not conducting audits, hence there is a reference against him in NAB which btw has not been initiated by IK.

So all these three years, was NAB and PTI sleeping over these so called newly found 'financial irregularities"? And i) what is the proof that PSL's finances are not audited? and ii) why are they being brought forward now?

Seems like an act of revenge tbh.

 

[Slim]

clean the house?

so kicking out competent people and placing your own TCs in important position is cleaning the house?

Its so futile even debating with these fans who treat IK as some god like figure who can do nothing wrong. Its so unfortunate that Khan has such a toxic following which makes even sane people think two times before publiclly supporting khan.

 

[InziRules]

Its so futile even debating with these fans who treat IK as some god like figure who can do nothing wrong. Its so unfortunate that Khan has such a toxic following which makes even sane people think two times before publiclly supporting khan.

How is Najam Sethi competent? He has had zero involvement with cricket. To compensate this, he's not even an administrator, nor does he have experience with being one. He's not even a sports journalist. Add to that, his appointment is not even close to being on merit and you wonder why he's being removed?

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

How is Najam Sethi competent? He has had zero involvement with cricket. To compensate this, he's not even an administrator, nor does he have experience with being one. He's not even a sports journalist. Add to that, his appointment is not even close to being on merit and you wonder why he's being removed?

Despite all of your concerns, NS has delivered. That alone should have sealed his spot. But no, we are going to carry on with the politics of vindictiveness.

 

[Iddy]

We will see how “independent” PCB becomes. If Imran stays true to his word and PCB is freed from all political influences, I will appreciate his decision to remove Sethi.

However, I can’t help but feel that this decision has been motivated by his personal problems with Sethi and he has shown short-sightedness.

Sethi did a very good job and he is not full-time politician. He has differences with Sethi but it is nothing that can’t be solved. He has joined hands with many people that he used to hate in the past.

Totally agree that for now Sehti should have been continued with and his performance like everyones should have been monitored. He has done a good job thus far. I don't know the ins and outs but want to see some continuty in Pakistan cricket.

 

[sohailmm]

An Ad-Hoc solution is only as good as it can last and that too who is himself a political appointee . Imran is going to bring someone he prefers but it will be only for the time being.

Focus would be to institutionalize the selection of PCB chairman and completely independent of political interference. It can't happen overnight and in the mean while a competent person can be appointed as Chairman.

People should listen to some of his talk show on Geo to get an idea of Sethi's anti establishment and patwari mentality.

 

[Slim]

I don't see how that speech means he has to let someone who oversaw PSL which has financial irregularities on a huge scale stay in-charge.

PCB and PCL has not been audited so it is alleged Sethi may have benefited himself and those close to him with salaries and kickbacks. Sethi should just resign and make way for someone with a squeaky clean image and the knowledge and experience in cricketing administration to head PCB.

Not proven

Didn't Imran want PCB to be depoliticized and no political intervention so this is wrong. There should be change in system without any political intervention, make legislation to make system better and call for new PCB chairman election rather directly removing him.

An Ad-Hoc solution is only as good as it can last and that too who is himself a political appointee . Imran is going to bring someone he prefers but it will be only for the time being.

Focus would be to institutionalize the selection of PCB chairman and completely independent of political interference. It can't happen overnight and in the mean while a competent person can be appointed as Chairman.

People should listen to some of his talk show on Geo to get an idea of Sethi's anti establishment and patwari mentality.

Pakistan is probably the first country where someone is crticizied for being anti establishment )

 

[InziRules]

Pakistan is probably the first country where someone is crticizied for being anti establishment )

Show me one country where the head of the Cricket Board talks about politics

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

So my question is; if IK’s political appointees don’t deliver in PCB, will we be right to criticise him? I hate to say this but people’s love for IK is fairly blind on this forum.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Show me one country where the head of the Cricket Board talks about politics

Is it a crime?

 

[mak36]

So my question is; if IK’s political appointees don’t deliver in PCB, will we be right to criticise him? I hate to say this but people’s love for IK is fairly blind on this forum.

Is it a crime?

It breaches ICC Articles of Association. See my previous posts.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

It breaches ICC Articles of Association. See my previous posts.

Do you have the links of the articles?

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Listen, I’m not an expert on the laws and PCB regulations, or even the constitution of Pakistan about the issue. All I know is that nobody is politically neutral and in democracy you should be allowed to express your opinions. If Najam Sethi is involved in corruption, the evidence should be brought up against him and he should be dealt with accordingly by law. I judge an administrator by his/her performance. How are you going to get over with politics in PCB if you are going to dismiss its chairman because of his political leanings and not because of his performance? Remember, no one was able to prove ‘35 puncture’ allegations against Najam Sethi before. The way I see it, Najam Sethi have a higher moral authority over IK in this issue. You are only neutral when you are dead and I don’t want dead PCB chairmen.